Second Opinion

[SapphireGypsy]

I found this Spread called the Clarifying Love Spread on Aeclectic Tarot that I wanted to try,it forms a heart...idn it Cuuuute! _cloud9_ *ahem* I was just trying the spread But the reading ITSELF came out very interesting. If someone who's been doing this a little longer than I could give me a second opinion it would be FABULOUS! Here Goes

Where I stand in the Relationship~ Page of Wands
Whats Crossing me~9 of Cups
Where the other person stands~ Strength ( reversed)
Whats crossing them~ Devil
The way I *think* things are~ The World
The way the other perons*thinks* things are~Knight of Wands(reversed)
The way things Really are for me~4 of wands (reversed)
The way things really are for the other person~ 7 of Pentacles
How our energies Flow together~ Knight of PENTACLES
Outcome for me if I stay on this course~ Judgement ( reversed)
Outcome for the other person ~ 4 of Pentacles (reversed)
Outcome as a Couple~ ...wait for it.......10 of Cups.


as you can see there are quite a few Majors in this reading so there are some intense things going on and just FYI since I really know this other person, the way I read the "Outcome for the other person" card ( the 4 of Pentacles (reversed) was that Controlling and blocking change kind of energy passing or at least relaxing a little....because honestly he really can't get MORE that way. :lol: That is EXACTLY who he is, blocking change, needing to be in control over EVERYTHING in his life....even if its blocking change or growth or natural progressions. But I think he's growing up a little and letting some of that go. Thats the way I interpreted that card. Please give me alternative veiwpoints though

Thanks SO much in advance
~Shea

[SapphireGypsy]

Whoa! oooops bad typo....Bad Bad typo! LOL in the "Energies flow together" Card ( the 9th one) Knight of Pentacles...Pentacles,Not Cups.... J'aim Excuse! My cards read Coins intead of Pentacles, Coins to Cups is an easy and yet LARGE typo....My Bad...I edited up there but I noticed there have been a few people that viewed the thread already.

And Knight of Pentacles fit our energy flows together too...Dead. On. When we are good we are very very good and when we are bad we are Horrid :lol:

~Shea

[blackroseivy]

A quick observation about the 10 of Cups - yes, this is fam, the whole enchilada, all that, but it also always implies to me that there is work to be done ahead to "keep it up". So you have your rainbow in the sky - rainbows are fleeting, however, & it will be work in the future to "keep it together"!

I may figure out more about the cards, gimme some time...

[Monochrome Delirious]

Ok, I'll try and interpret this from my point of view...let me know if i'm right or wrong--->

Where I stand in the Relationship~ Page of Wands: THIS CARD IS SHOWING THAT IN THE RELATIONSHIP YOU TEND TO BE THE DEMANDING ONE. YOU WANT THINGS YOUR WAY AND WILL DO WHATEVER TO GET THEM TO YOUR SATISFACTION. YOU LLOOVVEE ATTENTION! YOU ALSO TEND TO BE VERY FUN, OUTGOING, IN TOUCH W/YOUR INNER CHILD SORT OF THING. YOU BRING A VERY INTERESTING MIX TO THE RELATIONSHIP!
Whats Crossing me~9 of Cups: HMMM...HOW TO INTERPRET THIS ONE...I GUESS MAYBE I WOULD SAY THAT YOU FEEL YOU'VE DONE ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK AND NOW YOU'RE SITTING THERE WAITING TO REAP YOUR REWARDS...BUT THEY'RE COMING VVEERRYY SSLLOOWWLLYY...AND I THINK THAT IS BOTHERING YOU. PERHAPS YOUR TRYING TO ADVANCE THE RELATIONSHIP AND HE'S HOLDING BACK? YOU WANT MORE, BUT HE ISN'T READY? THAT'S WHAT I'M PICKING UP HERE...
Where the other person stands~ Strength ( reversed): I FEEL HERE THAT HE IS KEEPING THINGS BOTTLED UP INSIDE, MAYBE HE DOESN'T WANT TO HURT YOU? HE IS LACKING THE COURAGE TO TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT HE IS THINKING AND FEELING. RIGHT NOW HE IS BEING FACED WITH A CHALLANGE AND ISN'T QUITE SURE HOW TO APPROACH IT OR WHAT CHOICES TO MAKE. HE NEEDS TO FIND THE STRENGTH THAT HE'S LACKING TO FIGURE OUT THE TURMOIL HE'S EXPIRIENCING.
Whats crossing them~ Devil: THERE IS A SITUATION THAT HE NEEDS TO COME TO TERMS WITH, SOMETHING'S GONE AWRY AND JUST ISN'T QUITE RIGHT. HE MAY BE FEELING DEPRESSED OR ANXIOUS ABOUT SOMETHING, POSSIBLY THE RELATIONSHIP. IS THERE SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS MAYBE FOUGHT ABOUT OFTEN THAT THREATENED THE RELATIONSHIP? OR MAYBE SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED WITHIN HIMSELF OR HIS FAMILY OR WORK, MAYBE.
The way I *think* things are~ The World: YOU "THINK" THAT THINGS ARE WONDERFUL, FANTASTICE, COULDN'T BE BETTER...CHANGE IS COMING AND IT SEEMS TO BE A POSITIVE CHANGE. POSSIBLY INDICATING A MOVE, A NEW JOB, OR MAYBE JUST A NEW WAY OF THINKING ABOUT YOUR LIFE, A NEW APPROACH. JUST WHEN YOU THOUGHT YOUR JOURNEY WAS ENDING...A NEW ONE IS JUST ABOUT TO BEGIN!
The way the other perons*thinks* things are~Knight of Wands(reversed): RIGHT NOW HE FEELS THAT THE RELATIONSHIP IS LACKING COMMUNICATION, YOU GUYS ARE NOT ON THE SAME WAVELENGTH. HE IS NOT TAKING INITIATIVE, HE'S BEING HELD BACK FROM WHAT HE WANTS/NEEDS TO ACCOMPLISH. HE'S HIT A RUT IN HIS QUEST FOR GROWTH (HEALING OR AWARENESS) AND NEEDS TO FIND HIS WAY BACK.
The way things Really are for me~4 of wands (reversed):YOU SEEM TO BE HAUNTED BY YOUR FEARS. THINGS FROM THE PAST POSSIBLY THAT KEEP CREEPING UP ON YOU, HOLDING YOU BACK...YOU AREN'T LOOKING BACK ON THE THINGS YOU DID RIGHT...ONLY THE THINGS THAT YOU DID WRONG. YOU EXPIRIENCED A MINOR SETBACK AND NOW YOU TREAT YOURSELF AS THOUGH YOU ARE A HUGE FAILURE. LIFE IS FULL OF THESE BATTLES AND YOU NEED TO PICK YOURSELF BACK UP AND HOLD YOUR CHIN HIGH, THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER...WHEN YOU WORK TO GET THEM THAT WAY.
The way things really are for the other person~ 7 of Pentacles: HE IS FACED WITH MANY DECISIONS ABOUT HIS FUTURE AND HAS PUT SO MUCH EFFORT INTO SUCCEEDING BUT HE FEELS THAT HE IS GETTING NOWHERE...FAST. THIS POSSIBLY COULD INDICATE WANTING TO TAKE TIME APART, MAYBE SPEND TIME ALONE, GET BACK IN TOUCH WITH HIMSELF, SORT OUT HIS OWN PERSONAL PROBLEMS AT THE MOMENT. HE'S COME TO THE INFAMOUS "CROSSROADS" OF LIFE AND ISN'T SURE WHICH PATH TO TAKE. THIS IS A TIME TO LEARN, AND MOVE ON.
How our energies Flow together~ Knight of PENTACLES: YOU ARE BOTH SEARCHING FOR PEACE AND BALANCE IN LIFE. YOU BOTH TEND TO BE HARD WORKING, BUT ARE QUIET AND TEND TO KEEP TO YOURSELVES MORE THAN OPEN UP TO ONE ANOTHER. IT COULD BE TELLING YOU THAT ITS TIME TO MAYBE FIND THAT PEACE, SEARCH DEEP INTO YOURSELVES, SEPERATELY, TO FIND IT.
Outcome for me if I stay on this course~ Judgement ( reversed): THIS CARD IS TELLING YOU THAT YOU NEED TO STOP PAYING ATTENTION RIGHT NOW TO HIM...AND DIRECT ALL YOUR ATTENTION BACK ON YOURSELF. YOU'RE JUDGEMENT HAS BEEN CLOUTED, BUT YOU NEED TO WIPE AWAY THE FOG AND SEE THINGS AS THEY REALLY ARE...WITH BOTH EYES WIDE OPEN. THIS CARD REVERSED IS ASKING YOU TO BE HONEST WITH YOURSELF, COME TO TERMS WITH THINGS AS THEY ARE OR ARE GOING TO BE, AND MOVE ON FROM THERE, AT THAT TIME IS WHEN YOU CAN EXPECT THE GREATEST RESULTS.
Outcome for the other person ~ 4 of Pentacles (reversed): HE IS NOT FEELING FINANCIALLY SECURE, AND IT IS CAUSING ISSUES IN HIS EVERYDAY LIFE AND RELATIONSHIPS. INSTEAD OF EMBRACING WHAT IS HAPPY AND GOOD, HE'S PUSHING IT AWAY AND ONLY ACKNOWLEGING THE NEGATIVE. HE NEEDS TO EMBRACE WHAT IS GOING RIGHT AND TRY TO FIX THE WRONG BEFORE HE CAN BE HAPPY IN HIS RELATIONSHIPS.
Outcome as a Couple~ ...wait for it.......10 of Cups. : SO THIS IS ODD, SEEING AS THOUGH AS THE OTHER CARDS AREN'T REALLY UPHOLDING THE WHOLE, "HAPPY EVER AFTER" ENDING, BUT WHAT THE HELL...HERE GOES! I FEEL THAT THIS CARD IS SHOWING MORE OF WHAT YOU WANT, RATHER THAN WHAT IT IS. I THINK WITH A LOT OF HARD WORK AND DEDICATION, THIS COULD VERY WELL BE A REALISTIC OPPORTUNITY! I THINK THAT YOUR BOY NEEDS TO REALLY SIT DOWN AND A GOOD STERN TALKING TO HIMSELF, YES TO HIMSELF, LOL. YOU BOTH SEEM TO NEED TO GET BACK IN TOUCH WITH YOUR INNER SELVES, AND THEN IS WHEN YOU CAN EXPECT TO SEE SOME RESULTS AS A COUPLE!

hope this helped you out some! can't wait to see how others interpreted it...see if i was at all even close!

take care, MD

[SapphireGypsy]

Just a little bit more about my interpretations for those that have given a second opinion. First it bares mentioning that I didn't do this reading on any one inparticular, but I knew who would show up in it, because he always does in any reading *I* do and any reading others do FOR me, our energies are just THAT connected that people can like "feel" him there before I ask about him, Danubhe can attest to that :lol:

But here is a little bit more about how I read the cards, since I am right IN the situation




The way things really are for the other person~ 7 of Pentacles: HE IS FACED WITH MANY DECISIONS ABOUT HIS FUTURE AND HAS PUT SO MUCH EFFORT INTO SUCCEEDING BUT HE FEELS THAT HE IS GETTING NOWHERE...FAST. THIS POSSIBLY COULD INDICATE WANTING TO TAKE TIME APART, MAYBE SPEND TIME ALONE, GET BACK IN TOUCH WITH HIMSELF, SORT OUT HIS OWN PERSONAL PROBLEMS AT THE MOMENT. HE'S COME TO THE INFAMOUS "CROSSROADS" OF LIFE AND ISN'T SURE WHICH PATH TO TAKE. THIS IS A TIME TO LEARN, AND MOVE ON.

*** This is actually what we are going through now, the time of seperation, to get away and grow up a little more seperately, We still love each other and are best friends but as far as where "WE" are going as a couple we are just kind of...waiting to see. Which has been frustrating for both of us but we know that feelings aside if its going to work at all we have to be happier SEPERATELY first,***


How our energies Flow together~ Knight of PENTACLES: YOU ARE BOTH SEARCHING FOR PEACE AND BALANCE IN LIFE. YOU BOTH TEND TO BE HARD WORKING, BUT ARE QUIET AND TEND TO KEEP TO YOURSELVES MORE THAN OPEN UP TO ONE ANOTHER. IT COULD BE TELLING YOU THAT ITS TIME TO MAYBE FIND THAT PEACE, SEARCH DEEP INTO YOURSELVES, SEPERATELY, TO FIND IT.

****I think you are exactly right, that's how I read it, only more that it was speaking to our existing seperation, that our seperate soul searching isn't quite over yet. Which I think was more advice for me since the how I *think* things are card...because I have had the feeling lately that everything is really going to be okay, that things between us will work out wonderfully, that we will get it together, I still believe that because thats just the feeling I have. However I think this card was telling me to relax a little, that its not going to happen in MY timeframe


Outcome for me if I stay on this course~ Judgement ( reversed): THIS CARD IS TELLING YOU THAT YOU NEED TO STOP PAYING ATTENTION RIGHT NOW TO HIM...AND DIRECT ALL YOUR ATTENTION BACK ON YOURSELF. YOU'RE JUDGEMENT HAS BEEN CLOUTED, BUT YOU NEED TO WIPE AWAY THE FOG AND SEE THINGS AS THEY REALLY ARE...WITH BOTH EYES WIDE OPEN. THIS CARD REVERSED IS ASKING YOU TO BE HONEST WITH YOURSELF, COME TO TERMS WITH THINGS AS THEY ARE OR ARE GOING TO BE, AND MOVE ON FROM THERE, AT THAT TIME IS WHEN YOU CAN EXPECT THE GREATEST RESULTS.

*** Now THIS one was interesting, I wasn't sure how I was reading that card, I didn't read it as needing to be honest with myself ( I think that issue comes across in all the soul seraching talk) Because its my "outcome" card I getting more of a rebirth, kind of feeling, Like My outcome was that if I kept Working at who I wanted to be, I would finally Become that, That is the feeling I got from the card...but I couldn't pinpoint the reversed energy of it, if it was just a slow process, or what***


Outcome for the other person ~ 4 of Pentacles (reversed): HE IS NOT FEELING FINANCIALLY SECURE, AND IT IS CAUSING ISSUES IN HIS EVERYDAY LIFE AND RELATIONSHIPS. INSTEAD OF EMBRACING WHAT IS HAPPY AND GOOD, HE'S PUSHING IT AWAY AND ONLY ACKNOWLEGING THE NEGATIVE. HE NEEDS TO EMBRACE WHAT IS GOING RIGHT AND TRY TO FIX THE WRONG BEFORE HE CAN BE HAPPY IN HIS RELATIONSHIPS.

*** I have been worried about him because of these aspects, I keep getting the feeling that he's not okay, things aren't going well, so I think you are right, But also with this card I got a feeling of being freed, a weight being lifted...and interpreted that as his Outcome being that it would pass***


Outcome as a Couple~ ...wait for it.......10 of Cups. : SO THIS IS ODD, SEEING AS THOUGH AS THE OTHER CARDS AREN'T REALLY UPHOLDING THE WHOLE, "HAPPY EVER AFTER" ENDING, BUT WHAT THE HELL...HERE GOES! I FEEL THAT THIS CARD IS SHOWING MORE OF WHAT YOU WANT, RATHER THAN WHAT IT IS. I THINK WITH A LOT OF HARD WORK AND DEDICATION, THIS COULD VERY WELL BE A REALISTIC OPPORTUNITY! I THINK THAT YOUR BOY NEEDS TO REALLY SIT DOWN AND A GOOD STERN TALKING TO HIMSELF, YES TO HIMSELF, LOL. YOU BOTH SEEM TO NEED TO GET BACK IN TOUCH WITH YOUR INNER SELVES, AND THEN IS WHEN YOU CAN EXPECT TO SEE SOME RESULTS AS A COUPLE!

Again agreed, we have to get it together seperately before we can get it together together :) And agreed about him needing to give himself a pep talk and basically stop WHINING and just DO it. And that IS where some of that control and demand that you spoke of in the first card comes in...I get frustrated with him because its like....Okay. Buddy. I'M doing it, I'm getting it together and doing quite well....so uh...GET ON IT. But its really not ENTIRELY within his control. But agin I think that there were many references in the reading that was saying, Yes it will work out, things ARE coming together, rebirth, changes, Rainbows, Family and all that....But that I have to be PATIENT about it....and realize that getting it "right" is not going to happen "Right now" and that it WILL take more work on both of our parts as Mary ( Danubhe) mentioned for it to really work. Which we both know, which was the reason for the seperation to grow up in the first place.

With everything else I think you were dead on, him being bottled up is no shock, especially if things aren't going great for him right now, he doesn't like to tell me about things falling apart, he thinks I'll be dissappointed in him, Which isn't true....because I Love him no matter what, Gods help me ;)
~Shea

[bladeraven]

Where I stand in the Relationship~ Page of Wands
Whats Crossing me~9 of Cups
Where the other person stands~ Strength ( reversed)
Whats crossing them~ Devil
The way I *think* things are~ The World
The way the other perons*thinks* things are~Knight of Wands(reversed)
The way things Really are for me~4 of wands (reversed)
The way things really are for the other person~ 7 of Pentacles
How our energies Flow together~ Knight of PENTACLES
Outcome for me if I stay on this course~ Judgement ( reversed)
Outcome for the other person ~ 4 of Pentacles (reversed)
Outcome as a Couple~ ...wait for it.......10 of Cups.
~Shea

Overall there is a lot of play going on in the relationship...you're really at a point where you feel like things are reaching a new level in your relationship, but what I'm picking is that for the other individual there is a strong sense of not really knowing for sure what they are wanting and that they are still tryign to sort out how the feel the stand in things...I f you noticed...you have a very strong sense of this is how great everything is but the other person has a lot of reverses and just feeling like a constantly stopping, assessing, then going forward but sometimes hesitating then going back instead which is probrably causing a lot of questions and mixed communication about what is going on in the relationship....The deck is definetely advising a lot of patience and just making sure you're not seeing what you're wanting to see than what is actually there....

There's definetely a lot of volatile movement and changes going on and I would really pay attention to the reverses that are being shown for the other individual...they seem to be feeling very hesitant.....maybe they are not in as full agreement as they are acting like they should?