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~Elise~
August 1st, 2005, 10:03 PM
Definition: Living person who "drains" others emotionally either empathically (draining the auric life force) or metaphorically (someone who takes emotionally without giving anything back; a "user").

Psychic vampires feed off their victim's energy, or prana (the Hindu name for energy or life force), in the same way that mythical vampires drink human blood to feed themselves. Not all psychic vampires are doing this consciously though. People who are emotionally needy or manipulate others to get their own way by making them feeling guilty are unconscious vampires. Spending time with a particular person can leave you feeling drained physically and emotionally. This is an indication of psychic vampirism. Some people consciously take other's energy by tapping into their victim's aura and draining the energy that way. People who are particularly sensitive or vulnerable are more likely to be a target for psychic vampires. Fear leaves people open to this form of attack.
Let's face it--we've probably all fallen prey to a psychic vampire, possibly without even knowing it. It may have been a chance encounter with an energy predator that left us temporarily exhausted, or possibly along-term vampire interaction with serious wear-and-tear effects on the mind and body.

Psychic vampirism is alive and flourishing in the world today. As consumers of energy rather than blood, vampires of the psychic kind exist in many guises but with one common trait--their own inadequate energy system compels them to tap into and feed upon the energies of unsuspecting host victims. The immediate results of such a one-on-one vampire encounter are anew but temporary surge of energy for the psychic vampire and a serious loss of mental and physical energy for the unsuspecting prey. If you suddenly feel emotionally or mentally depleted, you may be under attack by a psychic vampire. The unfortunate effects of prolonged energy loss are damage to the energy system itself and in some instances, serious illness.

As consumers of energy rather than blood, psychic vampires, like their folklore counterparts, can be men or women, young or old. They can be tween, teens, or adults. They can be professionals in business suits, wealthy dot. comers, dapper CEOs, ultra-groovy rock stars, or construction workers in hard hats. They can be a business associate, next door neighbor, or even family member.

This is from New Worlds, Issue NW023 by Joe Slate:
Psychic vampirism is alive and flourishing in the world today. It exacts a heavy toll-it demands life-force energy and in some instances, it literally destroys lives. At a personal level, it wastes our energies, dampens the immune system, and undermines the body’s natural defenses against illness. At a global level, it can literally drain the earth of its survival resources and interrupt its harmony and balance. It follows that finding ways of preventing psychic vampirism, or successfully counteracting it, must be among our top priorities. There are several forms of psychic vampirism, each of which demands a host victim.

In the one-on-one vampire encounter, the psychic vampire taps into the energy system of a selected host victim for the express purpose of extracting energy. Typical one-on-one psychic vampires are not agents of evil bent on the destruction of their victims. Furthermore, they possess none of the supernatural powers attributed to folklore vampires. They function instead from a position of profound weakness. Deficient in energy, and with their own energy system usually impaired, they seek other energy options-the energy system of a host victim.

Almost everyone has experienced the common vampire interaction that left them both mentally and physically fatigued. Unfortunately, the psychic vampire’s energy system is only temporarily replenished, thus requiring repeated attacks. For the host victim of recurring attacks, the consequences can be extremely harmful.

In the group setting, psychic vampirisrn can involve multiple vampires and victims. It can occur within groups and between groups, with power, wealth, and control being among its major goals. Highly competitive groups whose goal is to subdue or defeat the opposition, along with heated political campaigns, seem particularly vulnerable to group psychic vampirism. In its most dangerous form, it can include the organized activities of predator gangs, criminal groups, and drug trafficking networks.

Even major corporations have been known to stoop to psychic vampirism. Any organization that exploits human beings has clear fingerprints of psychic vampirism. Big Tobacco with its long history of predatory marketing practices, some of which targeted children. Enron Corporation’s vampirization of its beleaguered employees are examples of corporate psychic vampirism on an alarming scale.

The globe itself is vulnerable to psychic vampirism that recklessly exhausts its natural resources, pollutes its environment, threatens its species, and erodes its potential for progress. Psychic vampirism’s consequences can span centuries. It can affect everyone and in some instances, it literally puts the future of the planet at risk.

An internal form of vampirism, parasitic vampires are twice the victim-they are both vampire and host. Examples are phobias, obsessions, compulsions, and an array of self-defeating stress reactions-each of which is like a blood-sucking vampire with a demonic appetite. The more they devour, the more they demand. By attacking from the inside, they drain their host of essential energy, and eventually grid down the energy system itself.
Some warning signs that may make you aware that you are being preyed on in this way are: tiredness, fatigue, depression, headaches, nausea, dizziness, feeling drained, anxiety, panic attacks and nightmares. If the attacks continue, then the victim can become very ill, both physically and psychologically. Some people believe that the practice of psychic vampirism can make you live for ever.

Understand, psychic vampires are typically not mean, cruel people. Oftentimes, they are totally unaware of their impact on others. Initially, they are quite charming and attractive. They draw others in with their cunning and guile. Like vampires displayed on Hollywood's silver screen, psychic vampires avoid looking at themselves in the mirror. This avoidance of mirrors signifies a psychological tendency to avoid the self. The psychic vampire avoids, at all costs, self-examination. As you know, vampires literally live in the dark. Similarly, psychic vampires refuse to become enlightened by the light of knowledge. They lurk in darkness, under cover and unaware of how they negatively influence and drain other peoples' emotional energy.

Having avoided self-reflection, these individuals naturally deny responsibility for how they affect others and how they attempt to live off the energy of others. For instance, a typical interaction with a psychic vampire might appear like this:
The PV usually begins a conversation with a complaint of some sort. If the person they're talking with chooses to respond with a solution, optimistic comment or some other positive response, the PV will literally live off that person's positive energy. Rather than do this for him/herself, the PV relies on other people to provide him/her with this type of energy. As the word "vampire" conveys, the PV saps the energy of others, which is why the other person ends up feeling emotionally drained.

It is not unusual for a person who is ill or feeling inadequate emotionally to draw upon or deplete energized individuals of their life force. These "suckers" are not bad people, most of them are not aware on a conscious level that they are doing what they are doing. Still, their unknowing actions can play havoc with anyone who leaves an energetic opening for this type of thievery. It is important for us to be aware that we may be susceptible to having our energies stolen from us and learn ways to protect ourselves. The harm in a psychic attack is that there is no fair exchange of energy and therefore one feels depleted while the other becomes energized.

The hard part in dealing with these type people is that initially they do implant themselves into your lives as friends. Then through a slow process the friendship is replaced by a constant draining on you. Being that we know that some people take longer than others to get through their issues we continue to try to help. What I have discovered in them is that they do not really want the help to improve their lives. They want to release the energy to someone else so they can continue on their way. They are in essence vampires of your energy and need to be removed from your life.

Do not let their issues become your issues. Refuse to accept or absorb their issues as your own. Become aware of what individuals deplete your energy and limit your contact with them. Using the Visualization Techniques that you’ve already been learning in this course- Build walls of protection or create a bubble of light surrounding your auric field.
The harm in a psychic attack is that there is no fair exchange of energy and therefore one feels depleted while the other becomes energized.

Symbiotics

This is another form of psychic vampire with the exception that these creatures survive on the draining of negative energy alone. As an example, usually they will seek out and draw strength from sickness in any human they encounter.

In draining the negative energy a victim invariably feels better and is possibly even healthier. The difference between the two forms is that symbiotics drain negative energy with intent but at the same time do not usually wish to harm their victim.

However psychic vampires drain any energy they can, sometimes harming the victim.
Please note though, some psychic vampires and symbiotics are not evil! They can be good and bad just like you and me.

Traits of A Psychic Vampire

• experiences feelings of abandonment or rejection
• needs constant reassurance
• never feels satisfied
• seeks nurturing
• low energy - fatigued

Symptoms Of Psychic Attack

• leaky or diminishing aura
• dizziness
• loss of energy
• muscle tension
• mental confusion
• headaches
• chronic fatigue
• sleep disturbances
• irritability
• depressed mood
• physical illness

Among healers the sharing of energy is referred to as cording. This cord represents life support tubing energetically connecting two individuals together. Babies are born with a cord attaching them to their mothers, this is natural. But there comes a time for a mother to Cut the Apron Strings allowing her child to go out into the world on its own. This is appropriate. If the mother fails to break the cord, the child will eventually attempt to do it. This too is appropriate.

Actually if the energy sharing was done equally it would be silly to have the cord in place at all. It is possible to be in a relationship without cording one another, in fact it is preferable. Couples that share one life source ordinarily create a relationship in which one individual becomes weaker, the other stronger. The weakened person feels collapsed because of giving away his/her life source. The stronger person feels great for a time, but his/her appetite may very well increase, craving more and more of the shared energy.

There are different types of situations we face in life that are difficult. Ending relationships ranks pretty high up in the "tough stuff" category. It doesn't matter if you were the person who walked away or if someone else left you, a loss is felt either way. It is especially painful if a relationship ends without closure. Unfortunately, often times when people "breakup" what they don't realize is that they may very well still have cords attached. The intact cord keeps an open channel for continuous feeding on each others emotions and anxieties.

One way to cut the cord, so to speak is to do a visualization similar to this one that I teach:

Go into a meditative state.

See your body.

See all the cords extending from your etheric body. Some of those cords you will want to keep, be they relationships with your kids, SO, spouse, family, parents, friends, etc.
Some of those you are going to want to sever; ex-bfs, ex-husbands, friends and family that are no longer in your life, co-workers from jobs that you don't even work at anymore.

See those cords attaching into your body with a bungee-cord type of hook/attachment.

Pick one cord at a time...pull that cord towards you to give you a bit of slack to be be able to unhook it from your body without tearing it out.

Cut the end of the cord that was attached to you...sometimes just a blade or ax won't do it. Sometimes that hook will be as big as an anchor. KNOW that you will have whatever tool available to you that will cut the end off that cord so it can not reattach itself to you.

DO NOT ATTEMPT TO CUT THE OTHER PERSON'S END. You only need to worry about your end. Without the hook on it, it can not reattach itself to you.

Now, that said...an experienced psyvamp can reattach that cord once they realize they are not attached to you any longer. So you may need to do this several time over the course of a couple of months.

I've been known to call on Archangel Michael to cut one cord with his flaming sword. I just could not get it done on my own. Needless to say, that one never came back.


Another way of subtle protection upon which you will not have to concentrate is by using herb pouches, or gem stones that you carry with you or wear in the form of a necklace etc. These can be quite good, but do remember to take them off and cleanse them every so often as they will suck in the negativity etc and you may find it will begin to affect you mentally and physically.

Now -- what is the difference between a psychic vampire and a psychic attack? Here is an excerpt of an article written by Christopher Penczak:

Psychic Attacks
Psychic attacks come in many forms. The simplest is an everyday experience. Someone says something bad about you, makes a judgment, calls you a name, yells or curses at you. The person is directing his or her energy in a harmful way toward you. If you are not strong enough in self-esteem and personal power, these little attacks take their toll.
Do not become paranoid with this information. Do not go running around accusing everyone who does not agree with you of a psychic attack. Such negativity is not meant as an attack. It is an unfortunate by-product of how our society conducts itself. This is a simple, subtle way harmful energy is directed. We all do it at times. Most often, we do it to ourselves. We judge ourselves as not worthy, not attractive, not lovable, and these images become thought forms, packets of energy, filled with a poor self-image. When people experience an "attack," they usually are experiencing and clearing these thought forms. Be aware and responsible of your own thoughts, directed towards yourself and others.
Other thought forms and astral entities have a life of their own. You might feel a malevolent presence or voice. These are the reported demons and devils plaguing mystics. They take the form of your greatest fears. Their goal is your fear, your attention, your time and energy. They draw energy from you to feed their existence. Ignoring them is an easy way to break their hold. Laughter is even better. If you don't take them seriously, they will lose power.
The last kind of psychic attack is the most rare, coming from another practitioner of the magickal arts. These attacks come as curses, wishing bad luck, nightmares and psychic or mental pain. Usually, the person knows you and will have some vendetta against you. My mother's godmother practiced folk magick in her Italian community and broke curses all the time. Belief and giving into the curse is the worst thing you can do. The more you feel you are cursed, the more the universe responds. No one can curse you unless you let him or her.

Psychic Defenses
All psychic defenses are based in building your own self-esteem, personal power and confidence. Some contain more physical acts, but ultimately it is your will empowering those acts.
To purify a space and prevent unwanted, harmful energy from entering, burn purifying herbs. Frankincense and myrrh are a favorite of both witches and the Catholic Church. Native Americans use sage, cedar and sweetgrass. Southern American cultures burn copal. You can also use lavender or cinnamon. These substances naturally clear a space. Salt absorbs harmful energy. Iron grounds the same energy. Horseshoes were pointed down and hung over doors for this purpose. Iron nails are placed in house frames for the same reason. Potions and oils made of these substances are worn for protection.
(Let’s see….that would be the smudging lesson we’ve just covered)
Magickal symbols of protection can be worn or drawn. Pentacles, crosses, the Star of David and the Eye of Horus are strong protection symbols, and you can usually find jewelry made with these symbols. Wear this jewelry with the intent of protection. A banishing pentagram, a star drawn starting in the lower left corner, dissolves harmful thought forms and removes unwanted spirits. Repeat it as many times as necessary.
(We’ll get to this one very soon)
During meditation, start by visualizing a shield of clear crystal around your entire body, about three feet away. State "This protection shield protects me from all harm and reflects love back on the source of the harm." Never send energy back to do harm; it will again return to trouble you. Even if one attacks you first, you are not justified to curse back. By sending love, you neutralize the harm. Wishing good things on your enemies can be the key to defeating them. They will be so happy with what they have that they stop bothering you. Bless your harm away, and more blessings will return to you. Similar protection shield visualizations can be used around your home, car, loved ones and pets.
(Hmmm…this would be the Grounding, centering and shielding lessons we’ve been doing all along…see--told you all this built on each lesson, so far)
Sometimes binding spells are necessary. Write the name of the person meaning you harm on a piece of paper. Put it in a bottle, bound with black thread. Fill the bottle with sea salt, protection herbs, iron filings and things like John the Conqueror root. Seal the bottle and ask that this person harm you no longer. As long as you do not open it, the binding will last. You can put the bottle in your freezer or bury it in the backyard.
As a last resort, call upon your guardian spirits. Call on your guardian angel, your spirit guides or the Goddess and God. A student of mine protected himself by asking for help from Mother Earth and drawing Her energy up and directing it to the malevolent spirit. Be creative when protecting.
As you claim your power and grow in your magickal abilities, you will move in harmony with the universe and attract less attention from such darker entities. Others wishing you harm will effortlessly roll off you because you know your place in the cosmic dance of life. Nothing can make you skip a beat of your dance.
This is from sacred-texts, an article by Zhahai Stewart:

What to do if you think you are being attacked.

1 - Question if it is really either imagination, or coming from within yourself. Something may be trying to get your attention, but it may not be external, and by focusing on an external "enemy" you may be missing the point.

2 - Check to see if you are yourself inadvertently sending something out; maybe someone is just reflecting some energy back! Nothing is gained if you get into adversarial mode in that case. Many people have been taught that reflecting is the proper response.

3 - Put up a grounding shield. Ground it out, send it to the Mother who can recycle the energy. Grounding is usually taught to every student. If you don't feel you can be a "conduit" safely, ground it by reflecting it downward to the Earth; that is a big target and easy to hit. By grounding it out, you are protecting yourself, yet not being caught up in it.

What not to do.

1 - Figure out who is sending it and counter attack. You might be wrong, and may be starting a feud. You might be right, but they may not realize that they are "sending" so you may start a feud or cause unnecessary harm. Even if you are right, you are escalating a feud, of which we have too many.
This is commonly discussed as a bad idea.

2 - Put up a reflective shield which will return the energy to the sender.This is commonly discussed as a good idea, but we disagree. We think this is unwise. For one thing, it is not necessary; if you can make an accurate return reflection, you can certainly reflect it to Earth instead (where it can be recycled). There is no reason you should not be able to ground out more energy than you can accurately reflect to the sender, if viewed properly.

For another, your accuracy in returning it may be less than perfect. You might hit close but not close enough; if you can't reflect it to earth, you are going to have trouble reflecting it to an unknown person.

Sometimes this is discussed as if once you return it, the sender will just stop; because they will awaken to what they are doing, or because the returning energy will be too much to handle. The thing which is seldom mentioned is that if the sender (assuming there is one) was consciously attacking, they will likely already be prepared with their own mirrors, etc.
Great, if we put near perfect mirrors at each end and pump in energy, maybe we can get a psychic laser effect; guess who is just on the other side of the mirrors to catch the intensified leak thru?

If they weren't aware of sending, they will probably just assume they are being attacked and take countermeasures. If they follow the 3 steps above, fine, nothing is damaged. But many of them will immediately think they have to put up a defensive mirror, or maybe worse (see below; they may decide to teach you a lesson for attacking them). Few people naturally respond to perceived attacks positively (especially if they are in such a bad mood already as to be sending without even realizing it).

Another serious concern is getting drawn into a unacknowledged feud by your own weaknesses. It is often agreed that one should reflect back exactly what is received, without adding anything of one's own. But the same people who advocate that may use terms implying "returning it with enthusiasm". There appears to be an easily tapped source of self-righteousness in most people feeling attacked, and it is _very hard_ not to get drawn into imagining, at some level, the satisfying effects of the energy going back to the attacker; that draws one into a "counter-attack" even without realizing it. Grounding it does not.

Watch for yourself when people are discussing "returning to sender"; see if there isn't very often a hidden desire for revenge or retribution lurking there grasping for their "control panel" - and deflecting their normal attempts at staying centered by claiming to do no more than is "justified". Justified is not the question; self knowledge and balance are.

There is another thread which shows up often in discussions like these; the need to "teach the sender a lesson". In some cases, I have even heard thi justified as "protecting the community". This way lies many pitfalls. Did the goddess give you an "agent of threefold return" marshal’s badge, that exempts you from any consequences "because you are just an agent"? That hubris is gonna teach some hard lessons, but the self appointed marshall may be the major recipient. It would be a little bit healthier to just shed the self-righteousness and call it an ego driven feud. "Teaching them a lesson" gets filed under the pitfalls of righteousness, the ways that one's own weaknesses seduce one.

Also consider, what if despite your initial impression, the negative energy is really coming from inside, from part of you? Are you going to be better off "reflecting it back" (maybe with additional conscious or unconscious oomph) or grounding it? "Gee, I returned it but good, and now they have stepped it up; the sender really needs a lesson!". That may be more true than you know, bucko.

Notice that nowhere do we say that one has no "right" to put up a reflective shield; of course one does, and is fully justified. Also, possibly, unwise. There is a distinction between what one has a "right" to do in "self defense", and what is wise to get drawn into. Reflecting it is neither necessary, nor likely to produce positive results, but if _that itself_ is the lesson to be learned, what can I say? Each chooses their own path, and that is as it should be. At least if one has considered the above, one should know what they are stepping into.




Sources:
http://whispy.com/psychic-vampires.htm (http://whispy.com/psychic-vampires.htm)
http://www.llewellynjournal.com/article/513 (http://www.llewellynjournal.com/article/513)
http://healing.about.com/cs/energyhealing/a/aa_vampires.htm (http://healing.about.com/cs/energyhealing/a/aa_vampires.htm)
http://farshores.org/psyvamp.htm (http://farshores.org/psyvamp.htm)
http://www.widdershins.org/vol5iss2/07.htm (http://www.widdershins.org/vol5iss2/07.htm)
http://www.sacred-texts.com/bos/bos127.htm (http://www.sacred-texts.com/bos/bos127.htm)

~Elise~
August 1st, 2005, 10:06 PM
Think about a psychic vampire that is in your life now...how are you going to be able to counter them now?

Is there a situation that you thought was a psychic attack and now you think it isn't? How are you going to change your attitude towards it?

BrigidMoon
August 2nd, 2005, 09:37 PM
I have to finish reading this but to be honest, I am BEAT. Need sleep. My fiance working 3rds is difficult on me. Anyway....AWESOME lesson!

bbnflpn
August 3rd, 2005, 12:29 AM
i skimmed it breifly since i have to go to bed soon, it sounds like my old job, now that they are out of my life i guess i will have to find someone else that is one. you have no idea what it was like when i left work i felt like i had a load lifted off me my freinds said i looked 10 years younger. i had a tarot card reading right about the time that i left and there was 2 cards that stuck out that told me that i would not be returning to the job (this was in feb and i officaly left the books cause i have been out on disablitly just a few weeks ago) i got the 7 of swords i knew i wouldnt come back to work at that place and the other was the wands i cant remember which one but he is lifting them up under burden and it was reversed like the burden had been lifted. ohh and the 9 of swords reversed as well. the end of the night mare.

wooleybob
August 3rd, 2005, 09:42 AM
I hope you do not get mad at me,because I am printing out all the class info,that way I can still go back and catch up on things that I have lost..I will finish this class one way or another..All my info is gonna be stored at my friends house so cant be found..

~Elise~
August 3rd, 2005, 01:35 PM
I don't mind...in fact -- if you would prefer to have the word files that I do this from, email me privately and I'll send them to you. You can print just the text of the stuff that way.

Elise

bbnflpn
August 3rd, 2005, 08:53 PM
bob im sorry about your problems i hope that things streghten out for you soon, it just seems so unfair that you would not beable to practice your choice of religion isnt there a law about this. and it seems from what you have said here that you are a heredity witch too. i hope that your lawyer will help you out in this.

bbnflpn
August 3rd, 2005, 09:22 PM
ok, i read the lesson. its great, i have to think about who the pv is in my life right now since it seems as i have already cut them out of my life. i was plauged by them for years. my mom called it the lost puppydog syndrom. unfortunatly i think that i am a symbiant. i tend to recycle the bad energys and make them good and the people crave this. that is why i joined up with the sheilding class. because of all this draining on me my medical conditions have been flaireing up i am in almost constant pain. now that i no longer work in an enviroment where the emotional needy thrive i feel better.

i do wear a protective amulet. it is a sugilite http://www.luckygemstones.com/sugilite-jewelry-purple-stones.htm (http://www.luckygemstones.com/sugilite-jewelry-purple-stones.htm) right now it is cleansed and charged with a 3 day sun/moon cycle from the last blue moon. which was on my birthday last year.

Most commonly mentioned as in tune with the 3rd Eye or 6th Chakra, therefore increasing psychic abilities. It is said to provide a barrier from all negativity, both physical and non-physical. It is believed effective against psychic vampirism where the spirit and energy of an individual is being sapped away--either by an individual or situation.

whats funny, i bought it 12 years ago at a concert it pulled me to it i didnt even look at it when i bought it i just handed over the money, i was with the main pv in my life at the time i guess i needed its protection. i started wearing it and she slowly left my life. i lost it for a while and then i found it a few years later. since i have been wearing it again i have been slowly riding my self of the pv and energy leeches that i have been known to pull torward me.

BrigidMoon
August 4th, 2005, 11:19 AM
The more you feel you are cursed, the more the universe responds. No one can curse you unless you let him or her.

I LOVE this quote. AND you know what gets me all wigged out a lot? Mercury in Retrograde. I try to beat it everytime but damned if this time around - it's taken us 5 weeks to get out wedding invitations, the TV AND phone broke (I've been extra grumpy and sometimes electrical stuff suffer because of it).... I try and take a good attitude towards it but I fear everything will go wrong. If you fear that, it WILL! I work on it and take a better attitude and it gets better.

sari0009
August 4th, 2005, 11:45 AM
A thought...

Quote:
"The more you feel you are cursed, the more the universe responds. No one can curse you unless you let him or her."

Similar to:
"No one can make you feel inferior without your permission." --Eleanor Roosevelt

Similar principle.

BrigidMoon
August 4th, 2005, 11:52 AM
Think about a psychic vampire that is in your life now...how are you going to be able to counter them now?
Well, I put up my sheilds that's for sure. Keep limited contact and for brief periods of time. My neighbors are major drainers! They are so NEEDY for someone to listen to them and their problems all the time. The odd thing is, they create them. I don't understand that. It's like some old habit that just continued. The wheel keeps spinning and it NEEDS energy to do that. There are 5 to my one if Nick isn't with me. So I really do not keep in contact with them as much.

Is there a situation that you thought was a psychic attack and now you think it isn't? How are you going to change your attitude towards it?

I sometimes feel I am being "scanned" and not sure where it's coming from but I don't feel this is an attack. I think in regards to attacks, I am the only one that can overcome these fears and fight them. I can also keep myself from becoming engaged in others' negative thoughts too.

Teresa
August 6th, 2005, 11:42 PM
Think about a psychic vampire that is in your life now...how are you going to be able to counter them now?

Is there a situation that you thought was a psychic attack and now you think it isn't? How are you going to change your attitude towards it?
I feel I need to re read the info a few times and let it all sink in before I start this homework.I have read the lesson and plan to make a post in a few days if that is ok.That is a heap of wonderful information also if its ok for me to take some notes from it too I would love to jot a few things down from it.BB,SS

bbnflpn
August 7th, 2005, 07:10 AM
for me finding these people is gonna be hard since i have already taken them out of my life for the most part. i can think of 2 that might fall in this catagory. one of them i intreact with on a semi regular basis and he is (to put it nicely completely insane) i have posted about him before in the just pagan section of the board. i have done my best to put up a barrier since he seems to feed of my postitive energys. the other is a freind of mine that i have had for years on the net. i have not met him in person i cant imagine what it would be like to meet him in person cuase i know he would drain me completely he already does some what on the net. he is a very emotionaly needy person and is currently in a mental halfway house. my most recent interaction with him made me alittle peeved with him and i havent really talked to him since. he tried to contact me to day about some random stuff and i kind of blew him off cause i didnt want to get in to it with him again. i think that he feels alittel bad about calling me an indiffernt, stoic, and narsicistc (how ever you spell those words) i have been limiting my interactions with him in general cause he just wont let up on some issues. and let me tell you he has some.

Lunacie
August 7th, 2005, 10:36 AM
I hope this won't take the discussion entirely off-track, if it does please ask an admin to remove this post...

I've been taking part in a discussion on another forum about psy vamps who drain energy through discussion boards. Some don't think it's possible, but I know that it can and has been done. The question was raised of whether some psy vamps post made-up stories to get sympathetic energy. So, here's the question, is there any way to tell the difference between a psy vamp who is telling the truth and probably doesn't realize what they are actually doing and one who is telling a lie on purpose to get energy?

bbnflpn
August 7th, 2005, 02:17 PM
i think its totaly possible. i chatted for years and well i met alot of them on the chat rooms i was in. and as i described in my last post i still talk to one of them.

RavensEye
August 8th, 2005, 06:01 AM
Think about a psychic vampire that is in your life now...how are you going to be able to counter them now?

Not really any differently then I have before, but maybe increase how much I do a smudging for myself and my home and do the LBRP. And make sure I keep improving my grounding and shielding. Other wise I will do the following.

The Cording exercise

See those cords attaching into your body with a bungee-cord type of hook/attachment.

Pick one cord at a time...pull that cord towards you to give you a bit of slack to be able to unhook it from your body without tearing it out.

(I learned about the cording exercise about two years ago on another psychic development forum)

When I do the cording exercise what I do is, visualise myself within me. I walk among the cords and let my intuition guide me as to which direction to take and what cord to go to first. I do not unhook it like you describe but rather take and cleanse each cord. And depending on whom I am dealing with at the time then I decide to make the break or cut as it were. And to do that I raise energy by chanting based on the circumstances, usually it involves me reflecting their energy away from me and then once I am ready I break the cord.

And I can tell you that when I did that and the rest of the cleansing of the other cords I could not believe how wonderful I felt afterwards... doing the cording exercise was a break through for me in my visualising skills and concentration.

Other things I have done and will do again if needed and depending on my resources at the time, is my own type of binding spell that involves visualising the person I am dealing with pushing them down into the spiral starting at the end in which it opens and continue to see them going till they are in the centre and are so small that they just disappear. Usually I can do this a number of ways including candle magick, or just using incense it is very easy to use.

As for my home protection brooms that is what I use and will continue to use even more as I get into more broom making and get more supplies, witches bottles, Protection pouches are also what I will use.

As for me and my children it would range from wearing any type of protective crystal and or Rune talisman or protection pouch.

Is there a situation that you thought was a psychic attack and now you think it isn't? How are you going to change your attitude towards it?

Nope all the encounters I have had I know where attacks and the only thing I would change about my attitude is not to be so tolerant and listen to my intuition more and cut it off at the early stages, and make sure that I do the things I mentioned above more regularly.

Devi
August 8th, 2005, 03:34 PM
Interesting lesson :)

Now, when I'm feeling drained from someone or feel bad vibes I usually try to visualize a energy protective shield around me for a few minutes. (This I really need to do more often because sometimes I let my emotions get the better of me and tend to have a cry fest or obsess about why the particular person is behaving this way towards me)

The smudging was helpful so I will keep doing this also.

~Elise~
August 8th, 2005, 04:08 PM
Interesting lesson :)

Now, when I'm feeling drained from someone or feel bad vibes I usually try to visualize a energy protective shield around me for a few minutes. (This I really need to do more often because sometimes I let my emotions get the better of me and tend to have a cry fest or obsess about why the particular person is behaving this way towards me)

The smudging was helpful so I will keep doing this also.

If you've been doing the daily practice of grounding/centering and Shielding...then your energy shield would be there all the time. Once someone has sent an attack it is too late to defend.

You know what they say...the best offense is a great defense.

JMO and YMMV,

Elise

~Elise~
August 8th, 2005, 04:12 PM
[color=black]And I can tell you that when I did that and the rest of the cleansing of the other cords I could not believe how wonderful I felt afterwards... doing the cording exercise was a break through for me in my visualising skills and concentration.

As for my home protection brooms that is what I use and will continue to use even more as I get into more broom making and get more supplies, witches bottles, Protection pouches are also what I will use.

As for me and my children it would range from wearing any type of protective crystal and or Rune talisman or protection pouch.


Nope all the encounters I have had I know where attacks and the only thing I would change about my attitude is not to be so tolerant and listen to my intuition more and cut it off at the early stages, and make sure that I do the things I mentioned above more regularly.

the cord visualization is a GREAT way to make yourself more energized because you're not giving away all your power.

As for the home protection...while tools are great, you don't NEED them. You can use just what you learn in this class and build an effective self-defense BUT having the other things like a Witches Bottle are a great addition. Just don't get into the mindset that you are supplementing your tools...your tools are supplementing YOU.

Great work!

Elise

~Elise~
August 8th, 2005, 04:16 PM
I hope this won't take the discussion entirely off-track, if it does please ask an admin to remove this post...

I've been taking part in a discussion on another forum about psy vamps who drain energy through discussion boards. Some don't think it's possible, but I know that it can and has been done. The question was raised of whether some psy vamps post made-up stories to get sympathetic energy. So, here's the question, is there any way to tell the difference between a psy vamp who is telling the truth and probably doesn't realize what they are actually doing and one who is telling a lie on purpose to get energy?

Yes, it is possible to drain energy that way as well. as for telling the difference...how do you feel after talking with them? Tired, drained, frazzled for no reason? They know what they're doing. With someone who knows what they're doing...they can drain the energy out of a thread just like someone can drain the energy out of a room or person.

JMO

Elise

~Elise~
August 8th, 2005, 04:18 PM
for me finding these people is gonna be hard since i have already taken them out of my life for the most part. i can think of 2 that might fall in this catagory. one of them i intreact with on a semi regular basis and he is (to put it nicely completely insane) i have posted about him before in the just pagan section of the board. i have done my best to put up a barrier since he seems to feed of my postitive energys. the other is a freind of mine that i have had for years on the net. i have not met him in person i cant imagine what it would be like to meet him in person cuase i know he would drain me completely he already does some what on the net. he is a very emotionaly needy person and is currently in a mental halfway house. my most recent interaction with him made me alittle peeved with him and i havent really talked to him since. he tried to contact me to day about some random stuff and i kind of blew him off cause i didnt want to get in to it with him again. i think that he feels alittel bad about calling me an indiffernt, stoic, and narsicistc (how ever you spell those words) i have been limiting my interactions with him in general cause he just wont let up on some issues. and let me tell you he has some.

Use the cording exercise and cut your tie to him...if you want to get him out of your life.

Elise

~Elise~
August 8th, 2005, 04:19 PM
I feel I need to re read the info a few times and let it all sink in before I start this homework.I have read the lesson and plan to make a post in a few days if that is ok.That is a heap of wonderful information also if its ok for me to take some notes from it too I would love to jot a few things down from it.BB,SS

Yes, you can take notes from this.

elise

~Elise~
August 8th, 2005, 04:20 PM
Think about a psychic vampire that is in your life now...how are you going to be able to counter them now?


Is there a situation that you thought was a psychic attack and now you think it isn't? How are you going to change your attitude towards it?


keep doing your daily work, Brigid Moon and you'll soon see a difference ... the pv types will just fade away from you.

Cut the cords too, as well.

Elise

~Elise~
August 8th, 2005, 04:22 PM
A thought...

Quote:
"The more you feel you are cursed, the more the universe responds. No one can curse you unless you let him or her."

Similar to:
"No one can make you feel inferior without your permission." --Eleanor Roosevelt

Similar principle.

Ain't it the truth!!!!

~Elise~
August 8th, 2005, 04:23 PM
I hope you do not get mad at me,because I am printing out all the class info,that way I can still go back and catch up on things that I have lost..I will finish this class one way or another..All my info is gonna be stored at my friends house so cant be found..

Cool on getting all your stuff back! that's awesome!!!

Elise

~Elise~
August 8th, 2005, 04:24 PM
ok, i read the lesson. its great, i have to think about who the pv is in my life right now since it seems as i have already cut them out of my life. i was plauged by them for years. my mom called it the lost puppydog syndrom. unfortunatly i think that i am a symbiant. i tend to recycle the bad energys and make them good and the people crave this. that is why i joined up with the sheilding class. because of all this draining on me my medical conditions have been flaireing up i am in almost constant pain. now that i no longer work in an enviroment where the emotional needy thrive i feel better.

i do wear a protective amulet. it is a sugilite http://www.luckygemstones.com/sugilite-jewelry-purple-stones.htm (http://www.luckygemstones.com/sugilite-jewelry-purple-stones.htm) right now it is cleansed and charged with a 3 day sun/moon cycle from the last blue moon. which was on my birthday last year.

Most commonly mentioned as in tune with the 3rd Eye or 6th Chakra, therefore increasing psychic abilities. It is said to provide a barrier from all negativity, both physical and non-physical. It is believed effective against psychic vampirism where the spirit and energy of an individual is being sapped away--either by an individual or situation.

whats funny, i bought it 12 years ago at a concert it pulled me to it i didnt even look at it when i bought it i just handed over the money, i was with the main pv in my life at the time i guess i needed its protection. i started wearing it and she slowly left my life. i lost it for a while and then i found it a few years later. since i have been wearing it again i have been slowly riding my self of the pv and energy leeches that i have been known to pull torward me.

Great work...keep it up!

RavensEye
August 8th, 2005, 04:25 PM
Just don't get into the mindset that you are supplementing your tools...your tools are supplementing YOU. Ok I will try to remember that, thanks. :thumbsup:

~Elise~
August 8th, 2005, 04:25 PM
I LOVE this quote. AND you know what gets me all wigged out a lot? Mercury in Retrograde. I try to beat it everytime but damned if this time around - it's taken us 5 weeks to get out wedding invitations, the TV AND phone broke (I've been extra grumpy and sometimes electrical stuff suffer because of it).... I try and take a good attitude towards it but I fear everything will go wrong. If you fear that, it WILL! I work on it and take a better attitude and it gets better.

Yup--like attracts like...keep the positive attitude going.

Lunacie
August 8th, 2005, 04:58 PM
Yes, it is possible to drain energy that way as well. as for telling the difference...how do you feel after talking with them? Tired, drained, frazzled for no reason? They know what they're doing. With someone who knows what they're doing...they can drain the energy out of a thread just like someone can drain the energy out of a room or person.

JMO

Elise

Sorry, maybe it's the headache... but I'm not certain I understand. Someone who is deliberately creating drama to suck the energy from a discussion forum can actually suck the energy - but someone who doesn't realize what they're doing won't have the same kind of draining effect?

~Elise~
August 8th, 2005, 06:48 PM
Sorry, maybe it's the headache... but I'm not certain I understand. Someone who is deliberately creating drama to suck the energy from a discussion forum can actually suck the energy - but someone who doesn't realize what they're doing won't have the same kind of draining effect?

No--they can suck the energy, as well. just not as effectively USUALLY. Someone who is just playing at being a psyvamp...wouldn't have the same result.

JMO

Elise

Devi
August 8th, 2005, 11:51 PM
If you've been doing the daily practice of grounding/centering and Shielding...then your energy shield would be there all the time. Once someone has sent an attack it is too late to defend.

You know what they say...the best offense is a great defense.

JMO and YMMV,

Elise


I know...... there are some days when everything goes by so fast and I realize I havent done that and you are right that is when i'm most vunerable to negative energy. On those days when I haven't prepared myself I do notice that it is still easier for me to release the negative vibes after some visualizations exercises. Before it seemed to consume my thoughts for days which would leave me very irritable or sad feeling.

RavensEye
August 9th, 2005, 09:23 AM
Oh something else I have done that I forgot to mention in my last post is
a letting go ritual, it is a bit different in the fact you gather various string or ribbon of different colours, and try to have at lest one of each of the basics. Have either a friend help you hold one end while you hold the other end and visualise what you to let go of whether it is someone who has been causing you problems and you just want to cut ties with or what have you. When you are ready focus on the centre of the ribbons and take a sharp pair of scissors and cut. ( I chanted while doing this )

I have done this one twice and I found it also a good way to let go of certain negative people.

Oh yah and when I did it i did not have anyone to hold the other end of the ribbons and string for me so I set it up a bit differently, but it still was a very effective ritual.

Lunacie
August 9th, 2005, 02:03 PM
No--they can suck the energy, as well. just not as effectively USUALLY. Someone who is just playing at being a psyvamp...wouldn't have the same result.

JMO

Elise

Ok, I gotcha now. Basically you confirmed what I figured. Thanks. :hugz:

yemayashija
August 9th, 2005, 05:34 PM
one way I actively give myself a haven of safety from psychic attack is to protect my home, by burying or placing camphor at the outside corner of each wall of the house. this then acts as a shield around the house. then my vampires can only intrude by invitation through the phone, internet or by inviting someone in. when I lived in apartment buildings and could not bury the pieces outside, it was a workable substitution to place a piece in the corner of each room.

eric2001
August 10th, 2005, 06:48 PM
Think about a psychic vampire that is in your life now...how are you going to be able to counter them now?
I do get customers every now and then when I'm at work that match the description (I end up feeling tired and drained when I'm done dealing with them). Luckily that's not on a regular basis. I suppose the only way I can really counter it is to be more alert about what's going on around me, and to continue grounding/shielding regularly. Other then that, I can't really think of anyone in my life right now that might be a psychic vampire.

Is there a situation that you thought was a psychic attack and now you think it isn't?
Before reading this lesson, I'd never given any thought to psychic attacks. So, no. There isn't anything that I thought was a psychic attack at the time. Although now after reading the lesson, I can definitely think of a few events that match the description of an attack.

How are you going to change your attitude towards it?
I'm going to continue grounding/centering/shielding/etc so that I'm better prepared in case something happens in the future.

AstralMagick
August 11th, 2005, 05:48 PM
Think about a psychic vampire that is in your life now...how are you going to be able to counter them now?

Is there a situation that you thought was a psychic attack and now you think it isn't? How are you going to change your attitude towards it?
Psychic vampires...I've actually had thoughts of them before. I know someone in my family is, though I'm not quite sure who, though I suspect my mom or older sister (who will be going off to college in about two weeks). So, I can't think of anything to do but keep grounding regularly.

I can't think of any strong psychic attack that I've had, though as some of the things like people calling me a name or two, or some negative thoughts, though I haven't thought of those as psychic attacks, as I've never really felt anything.

Would like to add...I don't want to sound mean or anything, but as constructive critisizm, I think this lesson was a bit repeitive. Like homework though.:)

wooleybob
August 12th, 2005, 07:22 PM
I deal alot with Psychic Vampires everyday,Be it YES even my Children,neighbors,The woman who lives in the apartment upstairs of me to my biggest, my ex-wife.I use my technique,of grounding myself and the finger locking,I can keep a conversation up and still invision myself in a aura of a bright light surrounding myself.Sometimes this can be hard to do depending on the person who is making and attack,and Then I got to get away from them,and put a safe distance between myself and them.I always carry my crystals on me in my pocket of my pants(I have a small set,And my bigger ones at home)..If the situation is really bad to the point I'll put my hands in my pocket and hold my crystals and focus the negitive energy into them,then cleanse them under water and recharge them on a Full Moon.I have done alot of study on Physic Vampires,and there are many differant kinds even parasitic Vampires that turns itself inward and feeds on oneself,in that case it turns you into a Physic Vampire and a victim and eats your own energy,and gives you bad obsession,sometimes phobias and compulsive behaveral that can destroy your aura.j/m/o.
A Physic Vampire/s are very nasty and can do great harm,thats part of why I am sooo cautious and sometimes feel paranoid at times around certain people,your inner instinc kicks in and you know how to spot a Vampire in due time,you can acutually feel their evil energy around you.Never let your guard down,keep grounded at all times the best you can,cause if not...You got a hell of a battle to deal with...I Know...Belive me I know.. :uhhuhuh: If I'm wrong Pearl,please tell me..Damn,now i'm gonna go look more things up from my books to see if I messed up..lol

Teresa
August 12th, 2005, 08:11 PM
Ok so I call this person a" Drama Queen". There is something every single day. The beauty of it is that I finally connected it all and I am able to tune them out so to speak. I do not feed into it. I am pleasant and since I am at work I am also busy and have to head off and get back to work! :cool:
As for an attack I only know of one in my lifetime and it was part of something of a larger scheme when someone was seeking my demise.

I have found that doing the exercises daily is becoming easier and easier and things seem to have begun clicking. My faults are the( days )that I do forget are the ones where everything goes Sour.Practice will help with it in time, I am sure.

~Elise~
August 13th, 2005, 03:52 AM
I deal alot with Psychic Vampires everyday,Be it YES even my Children,neighbors,The woman who lives in the apartment upstairs of me to my biggest, my ex-wife.I use my technique,of grounding myself and the finger locking,I can keep a conversation up and still invision myself in a aura of a bright light surrounding myself.Sometimes this can be hard to do depending on the person who is making and attack,and Then I got to get away from them,and put a safe distance between myself and them.I always carry my crystals on me in my pocket of my pants(I have a small set,And my bigger ones at home)..If the situation is really bad to the point I'll put my hands in my pocket and hold my crystals and focus the negitive energy into them,then cleanse them under water and recharge them on a Full Moon.I have done alot of study on Physic Vampires,and there are many differant kinds even parasitic Vampires that turns itself inward and feeds on oneself,in that case it turns you into a Physic Vampire and a victim and eats your own energy,and gives you bad obsession,sometimes phobias and compulsive behaveral that can destroy your aura.j/m/o.
A Physic Vampire/s are very nasty and can do great harm,thats part of why I am sooo cautious and sometimes feel paranoid at times around certain people,your inner instinc kicks in and you know how to spot a Vampire in due time,you can acutually feel their evil energy around you.Never let your guard down,keep grounded at all times the best you can,cause if not...You got a hell of a battle to deal with...I Know...Belive me I know.. :uhhuhuh: If I'm wrong Pearl,please tell me..Damn,now i'm gonna go look more things up from my books to see if I messed up..lol

Ya did AWESOME!!!! Keep it up....

Elise

~Elise~
August 13th, 2005, 03:53 AM
I have found that doing the exercises daily is becoming easier and easier and things seem to have begun clicking. My faults are the( days )that I do forget are the ones where everything goes Sour.Practice will help with it in time, I am sure.

YES!!!! I told you it would get easier. It'll keep getting easier and easier as you go forward!

Elise

~Elise~
August 13th, 2005, 03:56 AM
Would like to add...I don't want to sound mean or anything, but as constructive critisizm, I think this lesson was a bit repeitive. Like homework though.:)

This was tying everything together into a coherent package so everyone could see how the practices from the beginning form the basis of all I've been talking about.

Elise

~Elise~
August 13th, 2005, 03:58 AM
one way I actively give myself a haven of safety from psychic attack is to protect my home, by burying or placing camphor at the outside corner of each wall of the house. this then acts as a shield around the house. then my vampires can only intrude by invitation through the phone, internet or by inviting someone in. when I lived in apartment buildings and could not bury the pieces outside, it was a workable substitution to place a piece in the corner of each room.

that is a form of setting wards.

Elise

~Elise~
August 13th, 2005, 04:00 AM
Oh something else I have done that I forgot to mention in my last post is
a letting to ritual, it is a bit different in the fact you gather various string or ribbon of different colours, and try to have at lest one of each of the basics. Have either a friend help you hold one end while you hold the other end and visualise what you to let go of whether it is someone who has been causing you problems and you just want to cut ties with or what have you. When you are ready focus on the centre of the ribbons and take a sharp pair of scissors and cut. ( I chanted while doing this )

I have done this one twice and I found it also a good way to let go of certain negative people.

Oh yah and when I did it i did not have anyone to hold the other end of the ribbons and string for me so I set it up a bit differently, but it still was a very effective ritual.

I like this idea...and it gives a hard visual for those who could have problems visualizing.

Elise

~Elise~
August 13th, 2005, 04:03 AM
I know...... there are some days when everything goes by so fast and I realize I havent done that and you are right that is when i'm most vunerable to negative energy. On those days when I haven't prepared myself I do notice that it is still easier for me to release the negative vibes after some visualizations exercises. Before it seemed to consume my thoughts for days which would leave me very irritable or sad feeling.

I always did mine every morning before I even got out of bed. It was part of getting dressed and ready for the day in my mind. I slipped into my defense, then got dressed for work.

It does make a difference. I'm glad you guys are seeing how it does affect you if you forget.

Elise

RavensEye
August 13th, 2005, 06:45 AM
I like this idea...and it gives a hard visual for those who could have problems visualizing.

Yep and it sure feels like something is being lifted off of you when you do it right to :)

Sage Rainsong
August 17th, 2005, 02:25 PM
Think about a psychic vampire that is in your life now...how are you going to be able to counter them now?

Is there a situation that you thought was a psychic attack and now you think it isn't? How are you going to change your attitude towards it?


Hmm only one that I can think of is someone in massage therapy class. She is a friend of mine but she often she start to talk about how awful her life is and fishing for compliments. I used to try comforting people all of the time. Now I just offer my opinion once and then move on. I haven't shielded yet but maybe I will try it.

As for the second question. I really can't think of a situation becuase I never jumps to a conclusion like that.....even if I should.

~Elise~
August 17th, 2005, 06:09 PM
Hmm only one that I can think of is someone in massage therapy class. She is a friend of mine but she often she start to talk about how awful her life is and fishing for compliments. I used to try comforting people all of the time. Now I just offer my opinion once and then move on. I haven't shielded yet but maybe I will try it.

As for the second question. I really can't think of a situation becuase I never jumps to a conclusion like that.....even if I should.

Not to sound like a broken record or like I'm beating a dead horse...shield EVERY day- it should be part of your daily practice. If you wait till you're attacked, it is TOO late to shield.

Ground/center/shield. EVERY DAY until it is a habit.

I'll answer your PM, SR, after my IRL class tonight.

elise

Starz123
August 19th, 2005, 05:17 AM
hey all,

I am quite knew to this forum and have been literally checking everything out! I am not part of this class but your topics and discussions really interested me.

I dont know if its ok for me to post a question, if it isnt, just delete my post or send it elsewhere but i was wondering about this technique:-


one way I actively give myself a haven of safety from psychic attack is to protect my home, by burying or placing camphor at the outside corner of each wall of the house. this then acts as a shield around the house. then my vampires can only intrude by invitation through the phone, internet or by inviting someone in. when I lived in apartment buildings and could not bury the pieces outside, it was a workable substitution to place a piece in the corner of each room.

Can it work even against people trying to do anything against my house and family?

Thing is we have been attacked for a long time i just cant even begin to start saying anything. But am older now and am fed up of seeing my whole family brought down. Thing is as far as i can tell there is this one woman in our family who has done nothing but cuase trouble. i believe she casts spells and all sort sof stuff. Somehow my family has been her main attack for years- from our health to our business to everything! We have managed to fight it off by following the traditional indian methods, etc.

But At this point, i am tired. I just need to know is this camphor thing protection enough. I do intend to learn more but for the moment, can i do this?

Thanks. :dontknow:

Starz

~Elise~
August 19th, 2005, 07:04 AM
Thing is we have been attacked for a long time i just cant even begin to start saying anything. But am older now and am fed up of seeing my whole family brought down. Thing is as far as i can tell there is this one woman in our family who has done nothing but cuase trouble. i believe she casts spells and all sort sof stuff. Somehow my family has been her main attack for years- from our health to our business to everything! We have managed to fight it off by following the traditional indian methods, etc.

But At this point, i am tired. I just need to know is this camphor thing protection enough. I do intend to learn more but for the moment, can i do this?

Thanks. :dontknow:

Starz

Anything could work...it is up to you whether you want to try it or not. Our next lesson, which I'm going to put up this weekend is exactly covering this. It is how to set wards for your house and personal space. You may want to wait.

Elise

Starz123
August 20th, 2005, 05:54 PM
hiya

I am willing to try anything. Will wait for your next lesson. Thank you soo much. :vanish:

Starz

~Elise~
August 21st, 2005, 12:46 PM
Lesson 7 is up!