Spells: Does receivers personality determine effectiveness

[Hærfest Leah]

Are there some people that spells won't work on at all or you need a very strong caster for them to? Like someone who is very hard headed, stubborn or strong willed. And I'm mainly talking of your average person who does not know the craft & isn't actively protecting themselves.

Or do you believe a spell will work on anyone.

Can you get a spell to work on people who are actively protecting themselves?

[Dio]

I believe that the effectiveness of a spell is determined by whether or not *you* doubt it's effectiveness. Also, if you are casting a spell on someone who is doubtful as to whether or not it will work, *their* doubt will diffuse it as well. This is why I keep most of my spell working a secret. If you are doing a working on a stubborn person who does not believe in magic, it is best not to tell them about it. Secrecy is much more effective.

[Hærfest Leah]

I believe that the effectiveness of a spell is determined by whether or not *you* doubt it's effectiveness. Also, if you are casting a spell on someone who is doubtful as to whether or not it will work, *their* doubt will diffuse it as well. This is why I keep most of my spell working a secret. If you are doing a working on a stubborn person who does not believe in magic, it is best not to tell them about it. Secrecy is much more effective.


Thanks, I keep mine a secret most of the time anyways.

[semi]

I think the target does have some bearing on the effectiveness. Different people have different methods of protection, conscious or otherwise. Some are easier to penetrate than others. This is true whether aiming something hostile or helpful at someone. At least, in my opinion.

[Rick]

Are there some people that spells won't work on at all or you need a very strong caster for them to? No; and no, not strong, just someone that knows what they're doing

Do you believe a spell will work on anyone?Yes

Can you get a spell to work on people who are actively protecting themselves?Can I? Yes. Can anybody? Maybe. That's not intended to be bragging... it depends on the knowledge, skill, experience, etc of both parties. Any defense can be circumvented or penetrated, if one is skillful enough, patient enough, stealthy enough, bold enough, sometimes lucky enough...

[BlueMoon13]

...... it depends on the knowledge, skill, experience, etc of both parties. Any defense can be circumvented or penetrated, if one is skillful enough, patient enough, stealthy enough, bold enough, sometimes lucky enough...
:muwaha: Concures......

[blackroseivy]

I have to say I agree. I have had success - limited, but still success - on an extremely forceful personality who is famous & EXTREMELY Christian - you could say he was protected by the firmness of his belief. I had some pretty firm belief in what I was doing - I got his attention. Not a whole lot else, but his attention, at any rate.

I cast spells for my sister, they worked - she's no big believer in magick, though she's just open enough to not discount it.

That's my experience!

[Hærfest Leah]

Are there some people that spells won't work on at all or you need a very strong caster for them to? No; and no, not strong, just someone that knows what they're doing

Do you believe a spell will work on anyone?Yes

Can you get a spell to work on people who are actively protecting themselves?Can I? Yes. Can anybody? Maybe. That's not intended to be bragging... it depends on the knowledge, skill, experience, etc of both parties. Any defense can be circumvented or penetrated, if one is skillful enough, patient enough, stealthy enough, bold enough, sometimes lucky enough...

Thanks, would you mind elaborating in your opinion, of someone who does vs doesn't know what their doing?

[Happy Shrew]

It would depend on what the spell is, I would think.

If I were trying to heal someone who had given up/drowned him/herself in negativity, it would be a lot trickier than helping along someone who is already putting up a fight. In one case I'd be trying to reverse a current while in the other I'd be helping a current move along.

If I were trying to do something unusual, something that isn't easily explained in mundane terms, it would be harder for an atheistic physics major target to see the results than a deeply religious religious studies major target. People have a way of editing what they experience to fit thei mold they're already in, not as an intentional form of self-delusion but as a mechanism for paring down a vast set of information into something intelligible.

If the nature of the target didn't matter, we could blindly fire off the same spell at anyone and see the exact same results, and I doubt anyone here could honestly say that's been the case for them.

[Rick]

If the nature of the target didn't matter, we could blindly fire off the same spell at anyone and see the exact same results, and I doubt anyone here could honestly say that's been the case for them.
:smile: I can honestly say that, for me, the nature of the "target" doesn't influence the nature of the working, runic formula being what runic formula is...

Originally Posted by Rick
Are there some people that spells won't work on at all or you need a very strong caster for them to? No; and no, not strong, just someone that knows what they're doing

Thanks, would you mind elaborating in your opinion, of someone who does vs doesn't know what their doing?
I reckon it boils down to experience (first-hand or learned from others)... it's generally not about putting forth a great amount of energy, but rather about applying minimal energy in the most effecient manner... sort of like a demolition man knowing where to place a small amount of explosives to bring down a large structure... I'm not sure if that answered your question, but I can't think of a better way to put it.

[peggarty]

I think it depends it depends on the experience and confidence of the caster, but yes I believe that some people are hard to 'penetrate' with spells.

[Hærfest Leah]

:smile: I can honestly say that, for me, the nature of the "target" doesn't influence the nature of the working, runic formula being what runic formula is...

I reckon it boils down to experience (first-hand or learned from others)... it's generally not about putting forth a great amount of energy, but rather about applying minimal energy in the most effecient manner... sort of like a demolition man knowing where to place a small amount of explosives to bring down a large structure... I'm not sure if that answered your question, but I can't think of a better way to put it.

Nah you nailed it as usual. :weirdsmil

[wyrdmage]

I think the target does have some bearing on the effectiveness. Different people have different methods of protection, conscious or otherwise. Some are easier to penetrate than others. This is true whether aiming something hostile or helpful at someone. At least, in my opinion .

Your on target there! The target is defenitely important to the spell you plan to use. If the person is mentally prepared or already protected by some spell, then it will be very hard to overcome. That depends on the spellcaster. So it comes down to who is stronger in that respect. A lot of factors go into the effectiveness of a spell, this is only a small handful.

[StarCraftLia]

I think a spell's effectiveness depends on the castor's spiritual power. If your supposed victim is stronger, or has some type of guardian who is stronger, then they win.