Uncommon forms of Divination anyone?

[Agaliha]

I was curious if anyone does any uncommon forms of divination-- besides runes, tarot, scrying or anything like that?

I've tried Bibliomancy a few times myself...that's about it. I'm getting into Tarot and I want to try water and/or fire scying as well.

I know there are some odd types out there like: Gyromancy (divination by dizziness) and Tiromancy (divination by cheese) and Myomancy (divination by rodent behavior) <-- that one cracks me up, I have three mice, I wonder if they could tell me anything, lol.

Here's a list of different forms:
http://www.djmcadam.com/divinati.htm (http://www.djmcadam.com/divinati.htm)
http://andromeda.rutgers.edu/~szura/divination.html (http://andromeda.rutgers.edu/~szura/divination.html)

And if no one has tried one of the more uncommon forms are there any that you would be willing to try?

[Djinn]

I have experimented with scrying shapes in incense smoke and with reading the shapes of candle wax in a bowl of water. I had better luck with the incense smoke than I did with the candle wax, but I'm still most comfortable with my cards.

I looked them up on your lists...I've done capnomancy (smoke) and carromancy (wax).

[Calyx]

Hey BF!
I do ceromancy, which is divination by dripping molten wax and studying the pattern. I've asked about this a long time ago on here and I don't think I ever got any other takers. That surprised me a little bit because it is startlingly accurate for me and I would have thought others would like it too.

I have another friend who scries with fire, and says it works well for her. I've not tried it though. :)

How on earth would you scry with cheese??
*is puzzled*

[Agaliha]

Ceromancy...hummm, I'll look into that one! I have plently of tea light candles to use too.

capnomancy (smoke) seems cool, but I am severily allergic to smoke so I can't try that :(.



How on earth would you scry with cheese??
*is puzzled*

Lol. I'm puzzled too. I have no idea.
Tiromancy is a form of divination that seeks to know the future by examining how curds form during cheesemaking.
I guess seeing what shapes the curds make?

There are a lot of odd ones out there.

[MorningDove030202]

I predicted my impending pregnacy with my first son when I saw a rabit in my coffee creamer.....

Dove

[Agaliha]

I predicted my impending pregnacy with my first son when I saw a rabit in my coffee creamer.....

Dove

Wow, cool :abanana:
would that be along the same lines as tea leaves?

[wolf]

I've often wondered about Haruspicy, but I don't have any spare goats handy.

[Djinn]

I've often wondered about Haruspicy, but I don't have any spare goats handy.

I understand you can substitute geese or cattle if you're short on goats. :bouncysmi

[wolf]

Does it count if I paste one of 'em to the roadway with my car? Do you think I could use, say, an opossum under those circumstances in a pinch?

[Agaliha]

I've often wondered about Haruspicy, but I don't have any spare goats handy.

Reading the entrails of goats right? :woah:

[Djinn]

Does it count if I paste one of 'em to the roadway with my car? Do you think I could use, say, an opossum under those circumstances in a pinch?

I don't see why not. Of course, you'd have to take the opossum's original direction of travel into account in your reading....

[MorningDove030202]

Yes, something like that. I do it everytime I put my cream in my coffee.
Dove

Wow, cool :abanana:
would that be along the same lines as tea leaves?

[Moonravin]

in the clouds, melted wax, crackers (an odd story about finding my teachers), Poplar leaves (Poplar being my Tree spirit), the artwork of young children ... I'm odd in that the Goddess finds very creative ways to get things across to me. :)

[Agaliha]

I'm curious about Ailuromancy (Divination by studying the movements and actions of cats) but I can't seem to find any list of the possible meaning of the movements and actions... does anyone know of a book or site?

[Xander67]

Im studying Gnothology

It meshes Qaballa with nuerology and the Tarot...

really deep stuff...

[Flar's Freyja]

My Baby educated us to this one:

So, don't mean to be morbid... (http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?t=18751&highlight=entrails)

We had a whole bunch of wierd ones when SV and I were mods here together. Shells, clouds, trees, eggs, etc. Do a search and you'll find lots of good old threads from the good ole days.....

Here's a fun one:

Cat Divination (http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?t=18176&highlight=divination+cats)

[Xander67]

:eek:

I ment Numerology :foh: lol

[Flar's Freyja]

:eek:

I ment Numerology :foh: lol

So you're not a neurologist? :bouncysmi

You'd probably do a betterjob than those idiots who "fixed" my back! :chatty:

[Xander67]

:hugz:

[nag champa]

I was just toying with the idea of using the internet as an infinite I Ching.

As I see it, the net is the largest repository of human experience and knowledge ever assembled. A living, breathing organic extention of the collective mind. The only obstacle for us, as finite beings, to accessing the encapsulated wisdom (as opposed to information) is the linear nature of consciousness. If the universe truely is holographic, then it should be possible to assemble a finite approximation of the whole through random permutation of it's parts.

IE: It should be possible to derive wisdom through performing an internet cut-up, Burroughs style.
If there were a program which could capture random snippets of text from the internet, deconstruct and then re-combine them, it could yield relevant wisdom.

For example, when this idea came to me a few minutes ago, I used the random page feature on www.wikipedia.org (www.wikipedia.org) to pull 4 articles; I then cut the central paragraph from each and pasted them into a simple cut-up generator. This is what it returned:



While generally a thing, carving the world toilet house, attempts at origami Bibles, names The identity of that other Christian view, through it's 100% matter superconductivity, superfluidity, and the government work begun ever. Revelation is of account.


Interesting, in light of the nature of the experiment... Carving the world toilet house: the Origami Bible.

[Xander67]

You would like Herbie and Delores Ashcroft Nowicki's book..

http://www.ecauldron.com/bkmuotf.php (http://www.ecauldron.com/bkmuotf.php)

you will never look at cyberspace the same way again :)

[DarkWaltz]

I remember an article about divination via crows.
The general predictions governing crow calls are given as follows, categorized by the time of day and the direction in which the call is observed.
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First Watch
6:00 am - 9:00 am
East: Wishes will be fulfilled
Southeast: An enemy will approach
South: A friend will visit
Southwest: Unexpected profit will accrue
West: Great wind will rise
Northwest: A stranger will appear
North: Scattered property will be found
Northeast: A woman will come
Zenith: A demon will appear

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Second Watch
9:00 am - 12:00 pm
East Near relatives will come
South Flowers and areca-nuts obtained
Southwest Numerous offspring
West You will set out on a distant journey
Northwest One king replaced by another
North Good news will be received
Northeast Disorder breaks out
Zenith Fulfillment of your wishes

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Third Watch
12:00 pm - 3:00 pm
East: You will obtain property
Southeast: A battle will arise
South: A storm will come
Southwest: An enemy will come
West: A woman will come
Northwest: A relative will come
North: A good friend will come
Northeast: A conflagration breaks out
Zenith: You will gain profit by being taken care of by the king

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Fourth Watch
3:00 pm - 6:00 pm
East: Great fear predicted
Southeast: Great gain coming
South: A stranger will come
Southwest: A storm will rise in seven days
West: Rain and wind will come
Northwest: Scattered property found
North: A king will appear
Northeast: You will obtain rank
Zenith: Hunger predicted

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Sunset
East An enemy appears on the road
Southeast A treasure will come to you
South You will die of disease
Southwest The wishes of one's heart fulfilled
West Relatives will come
Northwest Obtaining property predicted
North Homage will be done to the king
Zenith You will obtain advantage you hoped for

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General Observations
Crow on right: good journey
Crow behind: you obtain siddhi
A crow flapping his wings, calls: great accident
Crow pulls human hair: death
Crow eats dirty food: food and drink about to come
Crow on thornbush: enemy
Crow on milksap tree: milkrice to you
Crow on withered tree: no food and drink
Crow on palace: excellent halting place
Crow on divan: enemy will come
Crow facing door: peril at frontier
Crow pulling dress: dress to you
Crow on skull: death
Crow with red thread on house: fire

well I thought it was unusual :p

[BlueMoon13]

A coven brother and I were brainstorming about this very subject at an event this weekend when someone hurled very (too) close by us and we decided a new form, and decided we'd charge the most for this type of reading.....emesisomancy.....divination based on intepreting someone's hurlage..... :yikess:

[aluokaloo]

I've been thinking about taking up austromany, divinination by clouds and the winds.

[Empathic Heart]

I remember an article about divination via crows.
well I thought it was unusual :p

Reminds me of a fortune telling poem for the number of blackbirds flying overhead:

One for sorrow,
Two for mirth,
Three for a journey,
Four for a birth,
Five for silver,
Six for gold,
Seven for a secret that's never been told.

[Kudzu]

I'm not too exciting. Though I do a lot of divination, most of it is the usual stones, cards, scrying or my own crazy head. The oddest I do would be Augury/Ornithomancy (by birds) and Tasseography (by tea leaves or coffee grounds). I used to do Spatalamancy (by bones) fairly frequently, but I lost me bag 'o bones.

[Rich]

these are the only ones i realy know

aeluromancy (dropping wheatcakes in water and interpreting the result)
aeromancy (divination by examining what the air does to certain things)
alectoromancy or alectryomancy (divination by a cock: grains of wheat are placed on letters and the cock "spells" the message by selecting grains)
alphitomancy (dropping barleycakes in water and interpreting the result)
anthropomancy (divination by interpreting the organs of newly sacrificed humans)
astragalomancy or astragyromancy (using knucklebones marked with letters of the alphabet)
astrology
axinomancy (divination by the hatchet: interpreting the quiver when whacked into a table)
belomancy (divination by arrows)
bronchiomancy (divination by studying the lungs of sacrificed white llamas)
capnomancy (divination by the smoke of an altar or sacrificial incense)
cartomancy
catoptromancy or crystallomancy (using mirrors or lenses)
cephalomancy (divination by a donkey's head)
chiromancy (palmistry)
cleidomancy (divination by interpreting the movements of a key suspended by a thread from the nail of the third finger on a young virgin's hand while one of the Psalms was recited)
coscinomancy (divination by a balanced sieve)
cromniomancy (divination by onions)
dactylomancy (divination by means of rings put on the fingernails or the number of whorls and loops on the fingers)
daphnomancy (divination using the laurel branch: how did it crackle when burned?)
dowsing
extispicy (divination by examining entrails)
fractomancy (interpreting the structures of fractal geometric patterns)
geomancy
gyromancy (divination by walking around a circle of letters until dizzy and one falls down on the letters or in the direction to take)
haruspicy (inspecting the entrails of slaughtered animals)
hydromancy (divination by examining what certain things do in water or when taken out of water, such as coffee grounds or tea leaves); hydatoscopy (if rainwater is used); pegomancy (if spring-water is used)
hepatoscopy or hepatomancy (divination by examining the liver of sacrificed animals)
kephalonomancy (burning carbon on the head of an ass while reciting the names of suspected criminals; if you're guilty, a crackling sound will be heard when your name is spoken)
lampadomancy (interpreting the movements of the flame of a lamp)
libanomancy (interpreting the smoke of incense)
lithomancy (divination using precious stones)
lecanomancy (dropping precious stones into water and listening for whistles)
margaritomancy (divination by the pearl: if it jumps in the pot when a person is named, then he is the thief!)
metoposcopy (interpreting frontal wrinkles)
molybdomancy (divination by melted lead: interpreting its noises and hisses when dropped into water)
myrmomancy (divination by watching ants eating)
necromancy (communicating with spirits of the dead to predict the future)
oinomancy (divination by wine)
omphalomancy (interpretation of the belly button)
oneiromancy (interpretation of dreams)
onychomancy (interpreting the reflection of sun rays off fingernails)
ornithomancy or orniscopy (interpreting the flights of birds)
ovomancy or oomancy or ooscopy (breaking eggs into a container of water and interpreting the shape of the egg white)
papyromancy (divination by folding paper)
pyromancy or pyroscopy (divination by fire)
rhabdomancy (using the divining rod or magic wand)
rhapsodmancy (divination by a line in a sacred book that strikes the eye when the book is opened after the diviner prays, meditates or invokes the help of spirits)
scapulamancy
scrying
sideromancy (interpreting straws thrown on a red-hot iron)
skatharomancy (interpreting the tracks of a beetle crawling over the grave of a murder victim)
splanchnomancy (reading cut sections of a goat liver)
stichomancy
tasseography (reading tea leaves)
tiromancy (interpreting the holes or mold in cheese)
urim v'tumim (reading sacred stones attached to
the breastplate of the high priest in ancient Judaism)
uromancy (divination by reading bubbles made by urinating in a pot)

[Janus109]

I think Rich just about covered it all lol. I am kinda toying around with doing readings with tea-leafs. Anyone using tea-leafs out there?

All the best,

rk

[Teresa]

I read chicken bones and tea leaves and sometimes coffee grounds.

[Flar's Freyja]

I remember an article about divination via crows.
well I thought it was unusual :p

I can't seem to find the link I was looking for - I'll keep trying - but it's been found that crows have a distinct language. The thread or site I'd seen discussed the meanings of each of their distinct calls.

Here's one article:

Language of the American Crow (http://www.crows.net/language.html)


Edited - aha, here we go:

Omens Through Birds (http://www.urday.com/birds.htm)

[fallingwater]

Ornithomancy..divination watching birds in flight works really well.

Any time a bird flies left to right it's a positive sign, (right to left means difficulties.)

Even numbers are more favorable than odd numbers.

I can leave the house on my way to class and watch a bird pattern in the car and know what kind of day I will have. It's extremely accurate for me...(and I'm a triple Scorpio-water sign-not an air sign...go figure!)

[DarkWaltz]

Reminds me of a fortune telling poem for the number of blackbirds flying overhead:

One for sorrow,
Two for mirth,
Three for a journey,
Four for a birth,
Five for silver,
Six for gold,
Seven for a secret that's never been told.
we have that but its slightly different and for magpies oddly enough.
One for sorrow
Two for joy
Three for a girl
Four for a boy
five for silver
six for gold
seven for a secret never to be told.

Theres alot of superstition surround magpies My friend if she sees one on its own she thinks its unlucky and asks someone else to look at it too then its not unlucky (odd I know)
I am not overly keen on magpies anyway ;)

[Merrick]

i just scryed for the first time! yay!
I used bubblebath! lol! i was taking a bubble bath, waited until all the bubbles had died down so it was a thin sheet of fom (you know what i mean) got a rose quartz and held in underwater. after a while the foam turned into a white sheet and images apeared quite clearly i made out a really obvious butterfly (it had wing design and even antenas) and i think i could see a buttercup.
i'm feeling pretty pleased with myself at the moment, seeming itwas my first time and i got such a clear reading. try it! i recommed you take a bubblebath ;) :tub: