Mystery Elvish Sentence

[happyprincessfairy69]

Hi everyone :)
I was just talking to someone and he threw this Elvish sentence my way, but won't tell me what it means lol. I thought one of you might know.
Ny lyer melme li
Thanks! :)

[Moon Flower]

That would be Elvish, as in Tolkien?

or what?

I don't think that there is any official Elvish language, except for the one Tolkien made up, which is incomplete.

I hate people who do that. Say something cryptic and then not say what it means, or what they mean by it.
It's superior and elitist.
Usually when they do it to me I refuse to talk to them at all in any language.

What's the point in saying something that cannot be understood by the person to whom it is said?

It's just showing off.
'I know this and you don't, so I'm going to lord it over you...' sort of thing.

It's a wind up.

[GalenaFaolan]

Looked it up and can't find any of the words you have written. Are you sure it's spelled like that?? I think I can figure it out. :hmmmmm:

[DarkWaltz]

Hi everyone :)
I was just talking to someone and he threw this Elvish sentence my way, but won't tell me what it means lol. I thought one of you might know.
Ny lyer melme li
Thanks! :)
I agree with moon flower.
when people do that act like you don't care, :lookwhats

[arctic splash]

Sorry, I don't know what that means. :)



What's the point in saying something that cannot be understood by the person to whom it is said?

Because there can be something mysterious in words not understood. It can be a sort of friendly teasing, knowing that whatever you said is that much more interesting to the person because she can't understand it. I recently told a friend, "Last night I said I would tell you something today, if you remembered to ask about it." She didn't remember what it was, and until I told her, that's all she could think about! Another reason, maybe you're just a huge linguaphile, and like the way a language looks or sounds even if you don't understand it. I don't mind someone saying something to me in a language I don't understand, or even making a mystery out of it, as long as they don't do it all the time. :)

Besides, it would be an opportunity to use my detective and language skills to figure out exactly what was said. Then I could be like, "Aha! You can't trick me! ;)"

[Moon Flower]

Moonstone dreams. I don't disagree with you.
I know what you mean, especially about the sound of words being lovely, even when you don't know what they mean.

It's just that people using language as a way of feeling superior (and I know that is not what is being done every time it happens) or a way of putting someone down, or making them feel like they are less because they don't know, is a pet hate of mine.
No one is less because they don't know something. No one knows everything, and sometimes people being like that can stop someone asking about something they don't know yet.
Like I say, it's just a pet hate of mine. I'm probably just paraniod.

Galena falcon. Where did you look it up?
Where does one go to look up Elvish?
And do you think it is Tolkiens Elvish (the only sort I have ever heard of) Or is it some other kind?

[arctic splash]

I feel that way too, Moon Flower. I don't get why people need to use silly things to make them feel superior. In high school I would get frustrated when people would say things like, "You're so smart, I wish I were as smart as you." I wanted them to believe they were just as capable... just because I understood some arcane concept that probably had no bearing on anything in real life, it didn't make me smart. Maybe the only thing that made me smart is that I understood that none of this had anything to do with how smart or capable a person really is.

I was just trying to say, well... it could be this person trying to feel superior... but it could be something else, too. :)

[Karma Chameleon]

Hi everyone :)
I was just talking to someone and he threw this Elvish sentence my way, but won't tell me what it means lol. I thought one of you might know.
Ny lyer melme li
Thanks! :)


It's most likely just made up words, particularly seeing how they won't tell you want it's supposed to mean. It was probably intended to be a joke.

[arctic splash]

Hey, what's wrong with nerdy?! I happen to think that a great relationship can begin with a little elvish. :D

I don't know about any of the other words, but apparently melme means love: http://home.netcom.com/~heensle/lang/elvish/quenya/quen.html (http://home.netcom.com/~heensle/lang/elvish/quenya/quen.html)

[Moon Flower]

I feel that way too, Moon Flower. I don't get why people need to use silly things to make them feel superior. In high school I would get frustrated when people would say things like, "You're so smart, I wish I were as smart as you." I wanted them to believe they were just as capable... just because I understood some arcane concept that probably had no bearing on anything in real life, it didn't make me smart. Maybe the only thing that made me smart is that I understood that none of this had anything to do with how smart or capable a person really is.

I was just trying to say, well... it could be this person trying to feel superior... but it could be something else, too. :)

I'm sure you are right. I don't know this specific situation, I would hate to condemn anyone without knowing!

As for people! funny things arn't they?

The thing which winds me up most is when someone says something cryptic to try to prompt you into asking what they mean, so that they can them inform you, and explain why they were so clever to say it in the first place!

The thing is, is you do not ask them to explain it buggers up their little plan, and then you can watch them trying to prompt you again and again to get the desired response.

However, I am also guilty of sometimes doing that. Especially to my bloke, but he harldy ever listens to me, so I am just talking to myself mostly. :D

Serves me right!

[Evendusk]

http://www.uib.no/People/hnohf/ (http://www.uib.no/People/hnohf/)

This is the URL for Ardalambion, a site covering all of Tolkien's invented languages. I haven't really gone through it so I don't know if there is a translator but there are a lot of links at the bottom of the home page to check out too.

[Mithrea]

I have The Languages of Tolkien's Middle-earth by Ruth S. Noel, and I couldn't find any of those words in it--not even anything that could be congugations.

[happyprincessfairy69]

Thanks so much for your help! I know none of you could solve it, but thanks for trying :)
I know it's extremely nerdy for him to do it, but he's actually done it as a joke because both of us have exes who were obsessed with LOTR. It was fitting at the time and rather amusing, it's just left me thinking lol.
Anyway thanks so much everyone! :)

[GalenaFaolan]

Galena falcon. Where did you look it up?
Where does one go to look up Elvish?
And do you think it is Tolkiens Elvish (the only sort I have ever heard of) Or is it some other kind?

I found one website that seemed the best source for it. It's http://www.grey-company.org/Circle/language/intro.htm (http://www.grey-company.org/Circle/language/intro.htm)

It's really very interesting. I had to go look it up. If you put Elvish into a search engine it comes up with some interesting stuff and all related to Tolkien and LOTR. :-)

[Teresa]

Hi everyone :)
I was just talking to someone and he threw this Elvish sentence my way, but won't tell me what it means lol. I thought one of you might know.
Ny lyer melme li
Thanks! :)
I believe the last word is really le which means You and the first is Ni which means I
melme =love
le=you
Ni=I

[arctic splash]

Ooh. :)

Maybe, "I really love you"?

[Katya]

i came out with it as "you must really love milk.." 0o;

[Mithrea]

Actually, I just looked up "love" and it is indeed "mel." I had to look it up in reverse . . .

[Mithrea]

I believe the last word is really le which means You and the first is Ni which means I
melme =love
le=you
Ni=I

I would think the me on the end makes it "you love me," but I'm just guessing here. I don't get the grammar :)

[CzechWoods]

maybe its a dyslexic :elf:

[randomling]

I would think the me on the end makes it "you love me," but I'm just guessing here. I don't get the grammar :)
If we're going with what we've got, isn't "you" on the end? The Elvish I've come across (which was a long time ago and I don't have the dictionary any more!) was very much just "English grammar and word order with Elvish words". However, that wasn't Tolkien's Elvish, although I think it was influenced by it.

Ny lyer melme li
I [something] love you?

[Teresa]

Maybe its "I love You,You love me" like Barney song!