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willowfairy
November 15th, 2001, 05:57 PM
I want it pierced! But Mom says I have to wait till I'm 16, which I think is way to far away. Even if it might be safer. I am doing a lot of research and am finding not all good stuff. I am responsible and would take care of it once I did get it done. But how do I prove it to her? And is it such a good idea anyways? Should I wait a little longer? :confused:
flar7
November 15th, 2001, 06:08 PM
lots of reasons. Mom, body growth, health complications, unknowns. Its just a few years, and being a minor you dont want to stir up mom.
Yvonne Belisle
November 15th, 2001, 06:09 PM
Wait a little longer your belly button isn't going anywhere. :) Not to mention that safety improves and more trained people are out there every day that you wait. Research the people in your area that do it as well and if you have a few years to wait talk to thier clients and see if they are good the really good ones will still be there and the crummy ones will be gone. Not to mention the fact that when a younger person does that much research into something and watches it for that long sometimes parents relent and let you do it sooner. Then again you could change your mind you never know.
talamh
November 15th, 2001, 06:10 PM
Well... sounds like you already know the answer. It's not a matter of whether you are responsible enough to take care of it. It's just that you are way ahead of where your Mom thinks you are.
It sounds to me like to her, you are still her little girl. Having a very pretty, pierced navel is very sexy. Maybe your Mom isn't comfortable with you being so overtly sexual.
Sometimes it's better to give a bit in the short term and gain in the long term. Is it really worthwhile to make a very big deal out of it right now? Only you can answer that... but your Mom is probably very very worried about you. Taking time to reassure her is a statement that you are willing to be reasonable. Give her time to be reasonable as well. It will probably pay off big time in the long run. Then again, it might not.. but at least you will know you tried. bb talamh
willowfairy
November 15th, 2001, 07:16 PM
Originally posted by talamh anEiac
It sounds to me like to her, you are still her little girl. Having a very pretty, pierced navel is very sexy. Maybe your Mom isn't comfortable with you being so overtly sexual.
Awww! Your right!
Our convo went something like this:
Me: Actually, it is a good idea to wait a little longer to get my belly button pierced. It can move and stuff.
Mom: I wouldn't let you get it done anyways.
Me: I know.
Mom: Why do you want to do it anyways? So it'll look cool with those short shirts you always wear?
--OK, I would like to say that I do have a few short shirts, but I do not wear them in public without something on that will hide my tummy--
Me: No, it's not about people seeing it, it's about what I want.
Mom: Then what's the point?
Me: *My mouth was hanging open, then I walked off to do homework*
Old Witch
November 15th, 2001, 08:12 PM
:eek: I would hope that the tattoo artist has got to get a parents permission for a minor! Whoa! That hurts.
:elf:
seawitch
November 15th, 2001, 10:49 PM
it hurt sooooo bad !:scream: and it took a long, long time to heal.
8 months and it flared up at 2 years!
i love my navel ring. but i would make my daughter wait till 16.
not just because i am uncomfortable with her becoming a sexy little thing, i am. but the healing takes time i would feel better about it if she were older. then i wouldn't have to worry about that as much.
Amora
November 16th, 2001, 08:27 AM
I agree with everyone! Mine took a long time to heal as well. In my opinion it is not something to jump into. Should you get pregnant it will need to come out and should you need an operation it may need to come out as well. I see where your mother is coming from on this one. I actually think I would make my daughter wait till she's 18 and it's legal for her to do it on her own, so I think you're lucky to get it done at 16. Be thankful your mother loves you! :loveduv:
Starlight
November 16th, 2001, 08:42 AM
I think waiting might be a good idea cause maybe when your 16 you won't want it anymore and you'll be glad you waited! :)
xjsjaglvr
November 16th, 2001, 08:48 AM
I won't weigh in on the pros and cons of naval rings etc. I spent 20 years as a sailor and when all my buddies got tattoos I waited, just wasn't sure I wanted to make that commitment. I still don't have one and now I am glad I didn't. It is a personnal thing up to each individual. My neice wanted to get her nose and naval pierced, her mom made her wait till she was 18. She got it done and then 2 years later decided to take it out. The same with her naval ring. She realized it was just a fad for her. Fortunately the holes close up and that is the end of it. Body art is very popular these days and for some it defines who they are, for others it turns out to be a passing thing. Try out those modifications that won't effect your life later on. If you are comfortable with them then you can progress to more till you are satisfied. I have seen some beautiful tats on some woman that enhance how they look, yet my neighbors tat also comes to mind. Michelle has never been shy about being topless around our pool however what once were a perfect set of breasts now sport the ugliest tat I have ever seen. She now regrets doing it.
Chibi-Fallon
November 16th, 2001, 12:37 PM
Hey I know this is about getting your belly button pierced and tattoos but does anyone know anything thing about getting your lip pierced? I'm thinking about getting that done sometime soon (and I'm really hoping my lips moving won't be something I'll have to worry about ^^). I'm kinda wondering how exactly they do it. I've been told it hurts a whole bunch I'm pretty good with pain (which can be a good or a bad thing) and I really wanna do it at some point. If I can ever find a good place to get it done.
willowfairy
November 16th, 2001, 04:52 PM
This isn't just a fad... I'd wanted this done for years. I'm not your average girl... I'm different, my blue hair and clothes will account for that. :) But I really want this done. It's something I want, I don't care what others think. Just something for me.
seawitch
November 16th, 2001, 10:45 PM
you will love it ! i love mine.
but you really should wait till you mom feels good about it.
thats just what it think.
bansidhe
November 17th, 2001, 05:34 AM
i love my tat and my bellybuttone ring! i got my tat done at 14 (and got temporarily kicked outta home for it) and im still loving it, and i got my bellybutton done about two months ago, juss after id turned 16. however i ripped it out by accident about 5 weeks later. ouchies. i am gonna get it done agin if the scar heals up alright, but if it doesnt i ll get it done at the bottom instead, cos i really loved it, and now i miss it! :wah:
my mums attitude was that if i got it done, it was my responsibility, and she knew id probly get it done anyway, after getting my tat doen last time! wheneva i told her it was ripped out, her reaction was : "ha ha."
i love my mum! :)
wait til your happy with it tho, and trust me, its hard to hide stuf like piercings and tats from your rents! :)
Siren
November 17th, 2001, 12:09 PM
But i got mine done when i was 20....i've had it for almost two years now...
In my area you have to be 16 to get any body piercing done....and 18 for any tattoos...unless you have parental consent, then you can be 16 and get a tattoo.....
My mother still wasn't impressed when i got the piercing...lol..and i wasn't even living at home....
But she loves the tattoos i got afterwards....*grin*...she thinks they are "cute"...
and if you want to gross your Mom out once you get it done....change the piercing in front of her...(of course, only do this once it is completely healed)
Ball-Bhreac Ròn
November 17th, 2001, 04:46 PM
Well, I reckon it looks really tacky, but that's only cos I'm influenced by the belly bars I see around me in this lovely town of Grantham...Fake silver with a ball at the end containing the Union Jack AIN'T nice ;)
flar7
November 17th, 2001, 05:55 PM
the mental image I got from that..... well, you owe me clean shirt!
Mt. Dew spray! plus, through the nose, that burns...
ROFLMAO :smash: crap, that little fellars back again. Starlight come get this hammer happy dude!
Angelwulfe
November 17th, 2001, 07:36 PM
i used to really want one when i younger and needed parents permission. now i'm 18 and could do it anytime i had the money but now i kind of like my belly button the way it is besides i aint doing it any time soon because i'm pregnant, when i get big it would probably pop off or something! lol:)
Starlight
November 17th, 2001, 09:16 PM
Originally posted by flar7
the mental image I got from that..... well, you owe me clean shirt!
Mt. Dew spray! plus, through the nose, that burns...
ROFLMAO :smash: crap, that little fellars back again. Starlight come get this hammer happy dude!
ROFLMAO Ok flar! ........................( :smash: ) Got em! ;)
Sephiroth
November 17th, 2001, 11:50 PM
im not going to take sided but i agree with ur mother in a way. tattos and peircings arnt all their made up to be.i have 2 peircings one in my ear and one that wont be mentioned. and i got 5 tattoos. its painful.. and its self destruction.
bansidhe
November 18th, 2001, 07:46 AM
Originally posted by Angelwulfe
i used to really want one when i younger and needed parents permission. now i'm 18 and could do it anytime i had the money but now i kind of like my belly button the way it is besides i aint doing it any time soon because i'm pregnant, when i get big it would probably pop off or something! lol:)
congrats! :) and apparently it does...i think she said it splits. ouchies!
pinguino
November 18th, 2001, 02:52 PM
Well, unfortunatly you don't seem to have a choice. Tatoo artists and piercers(?) won't do it without parental permission untill you are 18. This being your other option, I think that 16's not so bad.
willowfairy
November 18th, 2001, 04:44 PM
OR (not to sound harsh, I love my mom) she can let me have a life and do whatever the hell I want! It's MY body! It's only a !&@*ing HOLE! with metal in it!!!!!!!!!!
sorry, but i reeeeeeeaaaaaaaaally needed that
bansidhe
November 18th, 2001, 04:51 PM
Originally posted by pinguino
Well, unfortunatly you don't seem to have a choice. Tatoo artists and piercers(?) won't do it without parental permission untill you are 18. This being your other option, I think that 16's not so bad.
i got my tat at 14 and my bellybutton ring (now deceased) at 16, both without parental permission. its not very hard to do. :)
chill out willow!!! :) i agree its your tummy, but its your moms house youre in...
willowfairy
November 18th, 2001, 04:55 PM
She'd never see it! Either would anyone else. Only if I chose to show it to them. And I'd pay for it. She'd only have to go with me. I can do it in other ways, but that is the way I'd perfer it. And I will get it done, with or without her permission.
pinguino
November 18th, 2001, 04:56 PM
Maybe you're right.
Here there's signs all over the tatoo places saying there is NO way they would do it.
willowfairy
November 18th, 2001, 04:58 PM
My friend's mom will do it for me. And she lives down state.
pinguino
November 18th, 2001, 05:01 PM
A friend of mine's daughter's friend (followiing me?) got her nipples done. 1) cus it's cool 2) to piss mom off. .........It worked.
willowfairy
November 18th, 2001, 05:03 PM
That's not why I want it done! That's a pretty stupid thing to do, anyways... :) But I could get it done and my mom would never know, if I'm careful.
bansidhe
November 18th, 2001, 05:14 PM
trust me willow, youre mum will find out! im talking from experience here. and when she does, more likely than not, all hades will break loose.
penguino - we must juss have really slack tatooists and piercers, huh?! :)
willowfairy
November 18th, 2001, 05:21 PM
I'll tell her what I told you all.
SpikesPet5150
November 19th, 2001, 01:09 AM
I always wanted to get my eyebrow pierced, from the time I was 12. My mom said no. I complained, I bitched, I whined, I tried to get it done anyways... when I was 18, I was like, "Yeah, I'm doing it now!" but then I got engaged, and didn't want to have a bar through my face at my wedding.. so I waited... and waited.. and waited.. and now I am soooo glad I didn't get it done. I have a tat.. I got it done when I was 19... and I love it very very much... but I'm so glad I didn't get that piercing.
Willow.. it's not *that* big a deal, is it? I mean, it's not something you can't live without.... so why not just comply with your mom.. keep the peace. Or you can always mention.. "If you hate it, or if I hate it, I can always take it out.. .it's not permanent." That always seemed to work for a friend of mine.
~Bree
Starlight
November 19th, 2001, 01:34 PM
Wouldn't that get your friend's mother in trouble?? If she went instead?? :confused:
Ball-Bhreac Ròn
November 19th, 2001, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by flar7
the mental image I got from that..... well, you owe me clean shirt!
Mt. Dew spray! plus, through the nose, that burns...
8O sorry flar ;) Plesant, though, isn't it? The belly bar? ;) only kiddin :D
Starlight
November 19th, 2001, 01:45 PM
Hey I heard a rumor that drinking Mt' Dew lowers your sperm count! :lol:
Too bad for flar! I don't think he knows that! :T MMmmaaaaybe we should tell him!! .....not
Ball-Bhreac Ròn
November 19th, 2001, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by Starlight
Hey I heard a rumor that drinking Mt' Dew lowers your sperm count! :lol:
Too bad for flar! I don't think he knows that! :T MMmmaaaaybe we should tell him!! .....not
eew, really? ah well........:p I'm sure he'll find SOME way to reproduce...and build little baby flars....
Starlight
November 19th, 2001, 02:21 PM
Oh dear goddess noooooo!!!!!!!!! Little baby flar's runnin all over the place!!!!! Somebody please save us all!!! :lol: j/k
I :heartthro ya flar
[size=1]quick I'll keep him distracted while you pour the Dew down his throat!!{/size]
Ball-Bhreac Ròn
November 19th, 2001, 02:22 PM
ok, take the racoon and the mouse, they might come in handy ;)
willowfairy
November 19th, 2001, 08:27 PM
Originally posted by Starlight
Wouldn't that get your friend's mother in trouble?? If she went instead?? :confused:
Good point!! I hadn't thought of that. :) And my mom already hates that friend, no reason to make her never let me be with her again. Looks like I'll have to wait... :( But maybe not till I'm 16.
Could anyone explain the procedure? Julie said they take a hollow needle and take out some skin. :huh:
SpikesPet5150
November 19th, 2001, 08:33 PM
I think it varies from artist to artist. I know the girl around here that does it, Heather, just uses a larger needle... I don't think it takes out any skin, just like tongue piercing. My sister said it didn't hurt too awfully bad.. she said her tattoo hurt worse. But I think it depends on your pain tolerance.
Have you tried the "It's not permanent" approach with your mom? When you take it out, if you take care of it properly, it won't scar very much. And it's something you can hide if you need to.
Good luck, Willow... let us know how it turns out.
~Bree
seawitch
November 19th, 2001, 11:34 PM
the procidure i had was.
they put a metal clamp on my bellybutton, with holes on both sides to guide the needle and then shoved a needle through by hand it hurt like heck! i had to be held down! the guy said i had the toughest skin he had ever stuck a needle in.
then the healing was the worst part. it rubbed on everything. i couldn't button my pants for 2 months. and it took 8 months to hel decently. i did everything like they said and when i went back to the shop he told me i could take a year.
i am not trying to talk you out of it. i do think you should wait till your mom says ok. just keep on her she'll give in thats what my girl does:razz:
and if you need help with it she will be there to help you should it get infected
flar7
November 20th, 2001, 01:43 AM
flars are built not bred...heheheh
Ball-Bhreac Ròn
November 20th, 2001, 02:12 PM
brick by brick, huh?
UlricDagon
November 20th, 2001, 02:18 PM
I would wait....... if you listen to your Mom it will help strenghten your relationship and your belly button will be there when your 16.
Hang in there!!
Starlight
November 21st, 2001, 09:52 AM
Originally posted by flar7
flars are built not bred...heheheh
Suuuuuuure they are!
If it makes you feel better flar....we'll believe you on this one!;) :lol:
Hee Hee this makes you sound like a jellyfish or something flar! Little flar's just grow on you then pop off fully grown! :lol:
Ball-Bhreac Ròn
November 21st, 2001, 01:42 PM
:ack: I can imagine that happening.....
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