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la tortuga
August 28th, 2005, 12:58 AM
I'll try my best to make a long story short, but I can't guarantee that it won't be a handfull to take in.

I am 16 years old. Last year I went to the semiformal with this guy and we started dating not too long afterward. Most of what's been going on happened over the summer, so I didn't see him all the time, and so I didn't have a clue that any of this would happen. Since school has started, I've noticed him always being around and not only just being around, but always trying to correct EVERYTHING I do, whether my particular method works or not. I've been telling him, "Do you think I'm an idiot, because I'm not." almost every time he does this, but it's been getting worse. I signed up to do volunteer work and I just casually mentioned it in my plans for the weekend. I didn't want to tell him when I'd be going, but I figured that if I signed up early enough, he'd be too lazy to get out of bed and come. Come Friday afternoon, he's signed up for the same time slot as I am. I mentioned it to my mom and she said "Well, maybe he's just wanting to spend time with you," but that's not the feeling I've been getting. I feel like he's trying to monitor and control absolutely everything that happens in my life. I actually caught myself being thankful that he doesn't know where my locker is yet. Anyway, back to the story, today at Wal-Mart, I went school supplies shopping and he went with me. I also had a grocery list and we were looking for the items on the list. Well, we were looking for... ketchup, I think... and he actually pulled the shopping cart in a different direction than I was going. I finally got so tired of it that I let him push the cart on his own and went off wherever I felt like going. Then, when we were leaving I was scanning things at the self-checkout and he kept taking things OUT OF MY HANDS a trying to do it for me. I mean, come on... does he actually think I'm THAT incompetent?!?!?! Anyway, it came time to put the shopping cart away. He attempted to take it away from me and put it away for me, but I held on and told him "I can do it," and we actually began a physical struggle over who gets to put the cart away. I mean, it's ridiculus that we fought over it, but what's worse is that he thought that I couldn't do it by myself. Anyway, I got home and he called me and he said that his mother had a few questions written down for him to ask me. They were about MARRIAGE. (I'm still 16 in this part of the story, not any older...) I mean: 1. I hope they weren't his questions, because I'm uncomfortable with talking about something so soon. 2. I hope even harder that they weren't his mother's questions because she needs to butt out and let him figure things on his own because that's way too serious stuff to be talking about in high school, especially since I've only been dating him for four months. Well, anyway, he starts going off into his own personal question list which included "If I proposed at graduation, would you say yes?" My answer was "No." and then "Why not?" Umm... let's think, shall we? #1: That would ruin my ENTIRE future. #2: It would probably end up being the worst mistake I ever made. #3: I would not be ready for reasons 1,2 and otherwise. I mean, I could have handled his mom talking about getting married a little easier than him talking about it. Then the worst thing happened: He told me that he'd already looked into going to the same colleges as I was and this is basically what he said: "I don't mean to make you feel like you can never get away from me, but I think that we'll probably be seeing each other around for a significant amouont of time." I mean... I know he said that it's not what he meant by it, but I know he said it to trap me.

That's what I told my mom. She told me that I shouldn't stand it, and I don't plan to, but I've been debating on how long to give him to fix the problem. I've been telling him that I don't want to talk about getting married and whatever, but he keeps pushing the subject and pushing the subject and I can't get away from him, really. I've gotten to the point of almost non-responsiveness during telephone calls. My cousin is much older than I am, but the thing is... this is how her kind of ex-boyfriend started out and she's had to keep a phone log to see how often he calls and whaetver to show in the court of law for whenever she finally is fed up with it and decides to press sexual harassment charges. I'm getting kind of worried. I know I need to nip it in the bud, but I've been trying and it's like my garden shears aren't big enough. I'm just really kind of wondering if I should just go ahead and give up or give him even longer to have the chance to either fix the problem or try to trap me even more.

Shanti
August 28th, 2005, 01:04 AM
To be honest from my point of view, sounds like all the red flags of a controlling, possessive type of person. Some people's perspective of love is more like an ownership. He sounds like that type. I personally would do whatever it takes to break free of him.
He has a lot of changing to do before he can truly 'share' in a relationship. He may never change. This may be what he thinks is love and/or caring.

~Anamorata~
August 28th, 2005, 01:08 AM
Hmmm...I know it's easier said then done, but...you're already having the warning signs...contril freak, thinks you're stupid, can't see past his own nose, let alone anyone else's, clingy and stalkerish(going to the same college, etc...)...drop him now, before it does get any worse. And thankfully, you do have a very good head on your shoulders...you've already decided you'd say no, if he asked you to marry him. Drop him, before he changes your mind. Good luck and I hope things do get better!

la tortuga
August 28th, 2005, 01:08 AM
To be honest from my point of view, sounds like all the red flags of a controlling, possessive type of person. Some people's perspective of love is more like an ownership. He sounds like that type. I personally would do whatever it takes to break free of him.
He has a lot of changing to do before he can truly 'share' in a relationship. He may never change. This may be what he thinks is love and/or caring.

That is almost exactly what my mother told me and there's more. It's only been a WEEK since school started and he's got a history of "stalking" at his old high school so... I think that may be it. I should give it a teensy bit more time with more umph behind what I've got to say, and I guess if nothing changes I'll be single again, and sadly not unhappily. The past week has been utter torture. I have cringed at the sight of him.

BlackMagicalCat
August 28th, 2005, 01:09 AM
OMG,young lady,I am gratefull to hear you say you are to young to be married,bless you.

what do I know,but,it sounds awfull,run from this guy,put your foot down,tell him you need space,tell him to back off,and you dont owe anyone a reason why,you owe him nothing,tell him you want your space,and thats that.He does not own you.You dont even have to argue,just say you want to be alone,and if he is mature,he should understand,if he gets angry,then he will be getting angry as well if he was married.

Dont be afraid or intimidated precious one,you are so wise,and way to young to be married.
I pray the heavens will protect and guide you.

Willow Rosette
August 28th, 2005, 01:13 AM
Sounds like you have a decent head on your shoulders but hon dont give him more time.he has a history of this. Get it done now before anymore time goes buy. And be carefull. Dont go anywhere with out your friends with you. Be safe, Im glad you can talk to your Mom about this. Keep her updated just in case. If he has a car write down the license plate number and VIN if you can get it. Its better to be safe than sorry.

ReinaB
August 28th, 2005, 01:16 AM
He doesn't see a 'problem' to be fixed. There is no reason for you to wait around, try to be nice, etc. If he is making your cringe, trust your instinct, protect yourself and your interests. He's not taking the 'hint's. Time to be blunt. Good luck to you.

la tortuga
August 28th, 2005, 01:20 AM
He doesn't see a 'problem' to be fixed. There is no reason for you to wait around, try to be nice, etc. If he is making your cringe, trust your instinct, protect yourself and your interests. He's not taking the 'hint's. Time to be blunt. Good luck to you.

I just thought of that. :( This is going to hurt a lot. Maybe it'll be like an ear piercing, quick and as painless as possible?

narleymarley03
August 28th, 2005, 01:46 AM
Break things off with this guy immediately. Keep your Mom informed as to what's going on. If he stalks you or you feel uncomfortable let your Mom know. He sounds like he could be dangerous.

ReinaB
August 28th, 2005, 01:47 AM
Will it hurt you? What would hurt more? Staying in something every part of you says is wrong or being free to live the life of a 16 year old?
He has not regarded you and your feelings at all in his quest.....there is no reason to regard his feelings.
We seem to be told we should go through life being 'good little girls' who wouldn't hurt a fly. But we need to put our welfare first. And sometimes, we aren't too nice when we do, but we are happier, and that makes us nicer in the long run.

Philbo
August 28th, 2005, 01:50 AM
May I ask what your respective zodiac signs are?

Karma Chameleon
August 28th, 2005, 12:34 PM
I'll try my best to make a long story short, but I can't guarantee that it won't be a handfull to take in.

I am 16 years old. Last year I went to the semiformal with this guy and we started dating not too long afterward. Most of what's been going on happened over the summer, so I didn't see him all the time, and so I didn't have a clue that any of this would happen. Since school has started, I've noticed him always being around and not only just being around, but always trying to correct EVERYTHING I do, whether my particular method works or not. I've been telling him, "Do you think I'm an idiot, because I'm not." almost every time he does this, but it's been getting worse. I signed up to do volunteer work and I just casually mentioned it in my plans for the weekend. I didn't want to tell him when I'd be going, but I figured that if I signed up early enough, he'd be too lazy to get out of bed and come. Come Friday afternoon, he's signed up for the same time slot as I am. I mentioned it to my mom and she said "Well, maybe he's just wanting to spend time with you," but that's not the feeling I've been getting. I feel like he's trying to monitor and control absolutely everything that happens in my life. I actually caught myself being thankful that he doesn't know where my locker is yet. Anyway, back to the story, today at Wal-Mart, I went school supplies shopping and he went with me. I also had a grocery list and we were looking for the items on the list. Well, we were looking for... ketchup, I think... and he actually pulled the shopping cart in a different direction than I was going. I finally got so tired of it that I let him push the cart on his own and went off wherever I felt like going. Then, when we were leaving I was scanning things at the self-checkout and he kept taking things OUT OF MY HANDS a trying to do it for me. I mean, come on... does he actually think I'm THAT incompetent?!?!?! Anyway, it came time to put the shopping cart away. He attempted to take it away from me and put it away for me, but I held on and told him "I can do it," and we actually began a physical struggle over who gets to put the cart away. I mean, it's ridiculus that we fought over it, but what's worse is that he thought that I couldn't do it by myself. Anyway, I got home and he called me and he said that his mother had a few questions written down for him to ask me. They were about MARRIAGE. (I'm still 16 in this part of the story, not any older...) I mean: 1. I hope they weren't his questions, because I'm uncomfortable with talking about something so soon. 2. I hope even harder that they weren't his mother's questions because she needs to butt out and let him figure things on his own because that's way too serious stuff to be talking about in high school, especially since I've only been dating him for four months. Well, anyway, he starts going off into his own personal question list which included "If I proposed at graduation, would you say yes?" My answer was "No." and then "Why not?" Umm... let's think, shall we? #1: That would ruin my ENTIRE future. #2: It would probably end up being the worst mistake I ever made. #3: I would not be ready for reasons 1,2 and otherwise. I mean, I could have handled his mom talking about getting married a little easier than him talking about it. Then the worst thing happened: He told me that he'd already looked into going to the same colleges as I was and this is basically what he said: "I don't mean to make you feel like you can never get away from me, but I think that we'll probably be seeing each other around for a significant amouont of time." I mean... I know he said that it's not what he meant by it, but I know he said it to trap me.

That's what I told my mom. She told me that I shouldn't stand it, and I don't plan to, but I've been debating on how long to give him to fix the problem. I've been telling him that I don't want to talk about getting married and whatever, but he keeps pushing the subject and pushing the subject and I can't get away from him, really. I've gotten to the point of almost non-responsiveness during telephone calls. My cousin is much older than I am, but the thing is... this is how her kind of ex-boyfriend started out and she's had to keep a phone log to see how often he calls and whaetver to show in the court of law for whenever she finally is fed up with it and decides to press sexual harassment charges. I'm getting kind of worried. I know I need to nip it in the bud, but I've been trying and it's like my garden shears aren't big enough. I'm just really kind of wondering if I should just go ahead and give up or give him even longer to have the chance to either fix the problem or try to trap me even more.


I would dump him faster than a hot potatoe if I were you. He sounds like the typical "Nice Guy" and will more than likely turn into a stalker. The longer you stay with him the more motivation he'll have to want to harass you. The only way he might change is if he get's dumped enough and learns his lesson the hard way. And I wouldn't try to be 'nice' about breaking it off with him either, I would tell him point blank exactly why he's getting dumped. At 16, you don't want to waste your time with someone that is giving you the creeps and all clingy and such. Go out and have fun in life.

Novembers River
August 28th, 2005, 01:36 PM
You've gotten some great advice already, but I still thought I'd chime in to agree!

Lose this guy fast. You are young and have your whole life ahead of you. You don't need someone dragging you down.

I also agree with Karma Chameleon. Tell him exactly why you're breaking it off. If no one ever says anything he'll never see it as a problem.

Good luck to you and be safe!

GalenaFaolan
August 28th, 2005, 01:54 PM
I totally agree with what's been said already.

You need to get rid of him quick. If his behavior continues, don't be afraid to document everything and go the the police. He may be young, but as you stated he already has a history of stalker behavior.

I was in a relationship for 5 years with someone just like this guy. I had to tolerate physical abuse on top of it all too from him. People like him need help, more help than a regular person can give.

storm_child
August 28th, 2005, 02:54 PM
Agreeing with everyone else. leave him now, there is no nipping in the bud for this guy.. its more like a lets distroy the weed that is taking over the garden. Let that guy know the reason he is being dumped, if you feeling like yelling your a bossy, control freak and your scaring the shit out of me cause your getting to seriouse to fast then say it. go ahead and all the luck to you. If he has seemed violent at all, let people know exactly where it is your going when you do this, if he persists after ward youve ditched his sorry as, collect the info needed to press charges.
brightest blessings~storm child

la tortuga
September 3rd, 2005, 11:49 AM
May I ask what your respective zodiac signs are?

Taurus and Taurus. A dangerous move, I know. I even knew it at the time. I just thought that maybe it might you know... work... but it didn't.

Xander67
September 3rd, 2005, 12:04 PM
That is almost exactly what my mother told me and there's more. It's only been a WEEK since school started and he's got a history of "stalking" at his old high school so... I think that may be it. I should give it a teensy bit more time with more umph behind what I've got to say, and I guess if nothing changes I'll be single again, and sadly not unhappily. The past week has been utter torture. I have cringed at the sight of him.

You need to talk to him and tell him how you feel, and what you expect from him... If he can not give you this then you will know what to do....

he sounds like a very needy person ...
he is focusing all of his attention on YOU and neglecting his family, possibly his own studies ...

I think I can possibly give you a bit of insight into him, I have been in a similar position...

It sounds like he is very insecure with himself. He feels that he needs to have you around or know your every move... He may feel (fear) that any time you arent devoting to HIM is time you may possibly find someone else... it is all a self esteem issue... He needs to learn to love himself... he needs to have friends of his own, hobbies....

the time he is devoting to you is time he is neglecting him self, ....

he may need counciling, seriously... but you need to think of your sanity and safety first!

Xander67
September 3rd, 2005, 12:10 PM
Taurus and Taurus. A dangerous move, I know. I even knew it at the time. I just thought that maybe it might you know... work... but it didn't.

not necicarily... Taureans are Earth Signs,
I am a taurus Gemini, (may 20th)

compatibilty issues are oftentimes overwritten by things like environment, upbringing, peers etc... you can not just look at your compatibility report and base an assumption from that....

compatibility reports are generaly designed for Insight....

My Chart says to avoid scorpios and aquarians.... but some of the best friends I have are scorpios and aquarians...

dont feed into all that ... a perfect example is your situation...
He is acting completely out of character for a Taurus.