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MasterMoon
November 18th, 2001, 03:45 PM
Lesson 1
The human body is fantastic machine. Within it are DNA. DNA are chains of proteins that are actually the internal blueprints of your body. When a cell replicates it is only by following a DNA sequence that it is able to do so. So the cells in your body renew every 7 years, this is why you still look like you. Now what makes DNA? In the objective sense, this is what was made at the moment of your conception by the combination of your mother and fathers gentic material, a combination was formed and that was you.
It is the DNA that determine all the intricate things about you. DNA also determines chemical composition and hormone levels.
When and how mood changing chemicals will be used.
It makes every decision in your body as to the composition of it.
So then, DNA also make the lines in your hand. It becomes your own signature.
So when we look at a palm, we are in effect reading the DNA.
Or the unique emotional and intellectual signature of the entity in question.
However the world is not completely objective.
Lesson 2 The quantum world and how it builds reality
MistOfTheSea86
November 18th, 2001, 04:03 PM
I am looking forward to your next lesson!:) Great post Mastermoon
MasterMoon
November 18th, 2001, 04:26 PM
The DNA are the "mini me" of the brain.
The human brain is a collection of dendrites, neurons and synapses. A thought held in the mind, follows certain neural pathways unique to that thought (Like a familiar song or jingle).
This thought pattern then activates gateways that hold chemical keys. So now a thought of terror brings real chemical change in the body. (shaking, dialtion of pupils etc)
DNA can only follow the master plan, the brain. As the brain changes because of its experiences and from what the conscious mind believes, so does the body via DNA instructions. Now for the most part the brain changes very little, what "most" (and I use that term cautiously) people do is live out their unexamined lives and follow the "plan" that was preordained at birth. Others are bound to evolve and do so. When you change though so does your DNA, and then the lines in your hands reflect it. So physical reality is created by thought.
The mind, void in nature, creates thought, thought in turn create DNA , DNA in turn blueprint reality in the body.
MistOfTheSea86
November 18th, 2001, 04:28 PM
Yay, I am learning alot!
Silver Venus
November 19th, 2001, 03:04 PM
Thanks so much for taking time to teach us Moon. Im learning allot too! & cant wait to learn more :)
The mind, void in nature, creates thought, thought in turn create DNA , DNA in turn blueprint reality in the body.
Brilliant!
Dagda Moon~Lily
November 21st, 2001, 08:53 AM
I'm loving this! More, More, More!!!!
MasterMoon
November 23rd, 2001, 07:58 PM
It comes as no surprise, then, that because the hand and the human body come from the same source, which is DNA...the hand is a replica of the body. Each region of the hand corresponds to a region of the body. The fingertips, are the head region. Working downward, the base of the fingertips would be the chest area, the center of the hand, the internal organs, etc. The art of palmistry comes from those who have studied not only the regions of the hand as the correspond to the body, but also the major lines in the hands, as they influence personality, and emotion.
What we practice today, as palmistry, is actually thousands of years old. This knowledge has been passed on from generation to generation. So, in an effort to present this in an orderly fashion, we will start with Hand Shape and Dominance, Fingers, and then finally, the Lines and Mounts.
Next lesson: Hand Types, and how they relate to the elements, Earth, Air, Fire, Water, and Spirit.
Rick
November 24th, 2001, 12:08 AM
...on my mother's side... we come from a long line of Gog's...
<ahem> Sorry...
I've struggled for years to wrap my mind around the concepts of Palmistry, & in a few paragraphs, MasterMoon, you've made it amazingly understandable...
Kudos!
Silver Venus
November 25th, 2001, 02:14 PM
I feel the same :boing: Thanks so much!
I cant wait to start shape and elements ~ I never thought about the parts of our hands relating to parts of our bodies before.. In that way I guess they are like our feet and toes in reflexology?
Ive been told I have unusually thin, long palms and fingers ~ 'indian' people have said but I say alien :T I see this as one of my qualities to outreach to people and be very friendly :) but I cant wait to leanr more and if I am right in this.. or just bigheaded ;)
Moon ~ can you please tell us where does Palmistry originates from, culture, time and practice?
Blessings
MasterMoon
November 28th, 2001, 08:41 PM
Ty for the comments Rick and Silver Venus.
Before I move to the next topic I would like to answer the question posed by Silver Venus. That of palmistry being akin to reflexology.
Each extremity in the body (ears hands, feet) are a mini body.
There is a whole seperate theory about this and I would recommend as good reading the book "The Holographic Universe"
by Michael Talbot. This book explores the theory that reality is a hologram and not as "real" as we think.
Silver Venus, as far as the origins of palmistry, I have read many.
As with all other theorys I pick the one that seems right to me and makes the best sense. I like the storys of the gypsys and how they perpetuated the art. How they studied people and could tell things about a person by noticing things about them.
Back in the old days, parents would match their sons and daughters to potentail mates by matching their thumbs. Those who had similar thumbs were sure to be compatible. Similar thumbs mean similar spirit.
I use palmistry when I meet someone, I am able to see things in their hand right away that tell me what kind of person they are. Are they patient?..are they passionate?..do they think or feel more?. are they a liar? etc.
Oh Silver Venus ..Long fingers indicates slow deliberate thinking and manual dexterity. Slow in this case doesnt mean "slow" but instead focused.
Next Post Hand types.....
Dagda Moon~Lily
November 28th, 2001, 10:47 PM
Oh! How cool! :: going around to all of my friends comparing thumbs ::
Those are things I want to be able to check for in a potential mate! I find it fascinating that you can tell that just from a glance or two at their palms!! I know I'm the type that, when I'm interested in something, I want to know the all of it, RIGHT NOW....then sort through and figure out what knowledge I want to carry with me and what to discard. ....but I want to keep all of this knowledge.....keep the lessons coming!! :D
Twilight Garden
November 29th, 2001, 02:22 AM
This is great! I'm actually understanding where it comes from, the DNA and all... Please don't stop posting these lessons or I may do something baaaaaad like turn someone into a toad or the like. Just kidding.
Silver Venus
November 29th, 2001, 05:50 AM
Thanks Moon! This is brilliant!
I like Dagda want to check all my friends and bf's thumbs now! :D Ill just have to wait till I se him tomorrow but I am always comparing our hands and we are very alike ~ he's a just a bit bigger but he has very simliar hand and finger shapes and lines to me :)
Danustouch
November 29th, 2001, 10:55 AM
Yup, Yup, yup!!!!! Master checked my palms when we first met, and he liked what he saw....obviosly :) And our thumbs match, too. His are of course, larger. But similar shape :)
MasterMoon
November 29th, 2001, 08:28 PM
This lesson is about hand shape. Hand shape is broken down into four categories; Earth, Air, Fire, Water. Handshape is the most significant aspect in Palm Reading. It tells you about the dominant factors in the persons intellectual and emotional make up. Let's start with Earth Hands.
I am going to try and post a picture here illustrating an Earth Hand. I hope it comes through.
The checkpoints for an Earth hand are as follows: Few, Simple, Heavy lines. Small to medium length fingers. More often than not a fleshy mound of Venus (we'll get into what that is, later).
MasterMoon
November 30th, 2001, 07:26 AM
Sorry about the last post. I thought the pic was the earth hand, instead it is one of a fire air mix.
I wanted to show you a classical earth hand. (mine)
So this is it. Classic earth hand,
Danustouch
November 30th, 2001, 08:23 AM
ummmm..hubby's hands:) He gives great backrubs, ladies :)
Dagda Moon~Lily
November 30th, 2001, 02:21 PM
I was wondering why you posted my hand up there for an Earth hand when you had told me it was an Air hand! ;)
MasterMoon
November 30th, 2001, 06:55 PM
Ok so you have seen an earth hand...Study it. see how simple the lines are?..It is also square in shape. Very fleshy in the mounts. The kind of person who has this hand is a down to earth person, very simple in his approach to life. Feels passionately about certain things. Tells the truth and who is very much the way they seem to be. This types life is all about "What they have" Susceptible to intestinal problems (if there a tendancy for sickness) . There are many other things in the palm itself and the fingers. This is a first glance. Within 5 seconds you can know this about a person.
Questions are welcome
Next lesson Air hands
Silver Venus
December 3rd, 2001, 07:22 AM
I noticed you had a quite a square palm aswell ~ would this be alike to the Earth hand too?
Does the length of your actual fingers say different things about you too? like if a person has long fingers but a short thumb.. or reversed..
:) Great lesson!
Danustouch
December 3rd, 2001, 03:44 PM
heheheh..I can't resist answering...though my hubby is going to bonk me over the head for stealing the wind from his sails. Yes..finger length has ALOT to do with the art of palmistry. I'm sure mastermoon will get further into that as the lessons progress. But...the lengths of individual fingers have a great bearing on differen't personality traits. As well as the shape of the fingers...and in what direction the fingers lean..etc. But..first..you'd have to memorize the meanings of each finger :)
But...There's a rhythm to hubby's madness. He'll explain the hand types first, and then, I'm sure, he'll get into all the stuff about Fingers...That to me, is one of the most interesting parts of palmistry.
Hope
December 4th, 2001, 12:01 AM
I am SO very thankful that you are posting this thread!! I let a gypsy family member die with out learning palmistry from her and have kicked myself around pretty well for it. So many many thanks to you for agreeing to do this and for doing such a good job.
love
hope
Silver Venus
December 4th, 2001, 05:43 AM
Thanks Danus :D Ill try and be patient ;)
MasterMoon
December 4th, 2001, 08:55 PM
Air
Air hand is charachterized by long palms, long fingers, with many finer lines throughout the palm. It's the hand of someone who lives in their mind. This type of person is prone to illnesses of breath, and of lungs.
Enclosed is a pretty good representation of Air hands...it has some fire tendencies, but it's one of the best I could find in my files. When I find a better one, I'll post it. But for now..here's the one I have..Air Hand.
Silver Venus
December 5th, 2001, 07:23 AM
Im an air type :D
:rolleyes: and Im always saying Im not air at all! Im more earth, water and fire.. but guess I do live in my mind allot...
;)
Dagda Moon~Lily
December 5th, 2001, 08:16 AM
LOL Me too. Mastermoon told me I had a firey-Air hand. ....has to be my passionate side coming through! .....and I live in my mind too..... ;)
MasterMoon
December 6th, 2001, 06:11 PM
Our next topic is Water Hands
These hands are characterized by very faint, fine lines with shorter fingers. This is the type of person who is very finely strung emotionally. Thier greatest strength will be emotion as well. They are susceptible to nervous breakdowns and such types of problems.
This scan is an almost perfect example of water hand.
MasterMoon
December 6th, 2001, 06:22 PM
This type of hand has longer fingers and many deep lines.
This is a very active person (usually motivated )
The problems encountered with this type are accidents and heart problems.
This scan is a very good representation of Fire hand. Fingers could be a bit longer though.
Silver Venus
December 6th, 2001, 06:49 PM
I could be fire too :p ~ Id say Im inbetween fine and deep lines.. long fingers and long palms..
These are all really suttle differences ~ I suppose it all comes with pratice...
Like ~
Id say my sister has hands like mine, but now I really think about it hers are quite a bit smaller, espeically fingers.. and she'd fit water.
But how were these different types made up? Why does the shape tell?
Does this always fit?
Or is it the actual lines that make up most of the story?
Thanks :)
Danustouch
December 8th, 2001, 07:54 AM
Ok so there it is the four hand types. Earth, Air, Fire and Water.
How did there get to be four types?. Well there is a lot more than 4 types, there are all combinations of types such as firey air (smoke). Its just that everything is made of the 4 elements. Is it any suprise that the hand would follow and that there would be only 4 types?. It is because the source is the same. (God, the void, creator, brain unknown etc)
We read reality through mirrors. What we see here, is also repeated over and over, in many places. The hand, the ear, the cell, the body, the aura) are all manifested from the same source in a hologram of sorts. So your body being of the earth mirrors the earth. You are not part of the earth, you are the earth. Earth that lives and breathes.
This is the art of Divination. We get hints from the mirror, about what is happening in the other world. We see the hand and know the body. We see the lines and know the brain and heart.
I do hope this makes sense.
Danustouch
December 8th, 2001, 09:52 AM
*Slaps husband upside the head*
Oops.folks, sorry..he posted it under my nic.
MasterMoon
December 10th, 2001, 08:09 AM
See, the same thing that makes someone smart, the very DNA that enables one aspect of the brain and how it functions; also builds the almighty hand. How does it build it?.. The only way it knew how, the same way it built the ear, the foot, the brain, the body, the aura etc etc.
So, throughout history, wise ones have studied the markers in the hand. There are well known and accepted markers in the palm. There are many books out there. I suggest you read them all. lol (pls excuse my abrupt writing stlye)
The next thing will be the fingers!!..
Here is where hand reading gets fun!
Thumbs next...............so be it
Silver Venus
December 10th, 2001, 05:56 PM
"you are the earth. Earth that lives and breathes"
"We get hints from the mirror, about what is happening in the other world. We see the hand and know the body. We see the lines and know the brain and heart"
That really made sense! :)
What books are your fav and the best?
I was thinking the other day, is part of palmistry how people actually 'carry' communicate and hold there hands? Say if soemone is always interlinking there fingers, or crossing one over the top of the other while they sit. How they spread out there fingers and the tension of there fingers and hands?
Ive always been told Ive got tense fingers (even though I think of myself as a pretty relaxed person) and gave up piano due to my teachers always saying 'your so tense' 'relax!!' over and over.. them saying that made me tense, very tense!
As ever, Im looking forward to your next lesson:)
Danustouch
December 10th, 2001, 06:45 PM
Silver Venus
I was thinking the other day, is part of palmistry how people actually 'carry' communicate and hold there hands? Say if soemone is always interlinking there fingers, or crossing one over the top of the other while they sit. How they spread out there fingers and the tension of there fingers and hands
Yes, hands do have body language!
Just feel what they are telling you.
Silver Venus
December 11th, 2001, 04:59 AM
Thanks Danus :) I thought that but wondered if there was any much deeper theories.. When Ive got some more time Id love to learn more about body instinct ~ but I guess again, you just have to keep your ideas open :D
Danustouch
December 11th, 2001, 09:46 AM
Heheh..silver..your welcome. That was hubby posting under my nic again though. I really do have to be more careful about logging out. LOL.
Silver Venus
December 11th, 2001, 09:59 AM
:) Danus & Moon ~ stop confusing each other :D
...In my last post I meant to write ~ you just have to keep your eyes open .. not ideas! lol
(editted to correct myself again!! Eyes!! :bug:
Dagda Moon~Lily
December 11th, 2001, 10:16 AM
Okay Silver.....that last statement was enough to confuse me!! ;)
MasterMoon
December 11th, 2001, 06:36 PM
Maybe I should have explained the body language of hands more.
What does it feel like when someone points their index finger at you?.. Arent they flaunting thier authority?? Its no coincidnece that the index finger is the authority finger. This is all something you must observe and study for yourself. I cannot teach you how to read. I am giving examples and pointers, but the real knowledge must be discovered by you. Watch people that you know and watch how they use their hands. See if the hand will express an emotion or thought. I can think of many...:O)
Dagda Moon~Lily
December 11th, 2001, 11:09 PM
I understand body language and the concept of hand language too. I always look at a man's hands and how he uses them to express himself before I decide to go out with him. Quirky habit. ;)
Silver Venus
December 12th, 2001, 08:00 AM
Me too! :)
Danustouch
December 12th, 2001, 09:03 AM
Then I'm guessing you've both been attracted to Italians??? heheheheheh.
Hey..it's allright...John is an Italian. I can state he talks with his hands without any bias..just fact. heheheh.
Silver Venus
December 12th, 2001, 09:17 AM
lol :) No all bf's in the past have been english, my bf uses his hands when explaining something but not so much all the time ~ he shows me allot of affection and always likes to hold hands when we are together.. Awww :loveduv:
Dagda Moon~Lily
December 12th, 2001, 09:54 AM
I just like to look at their hands. I'm attracted to them. I can usually tell if they are hard working, aggressive, compassionate....etc., by the way they use their hands.....and by the look of them. The way they join the wrist and forearm.
I am just a sucker for graceful, hardworking hands! ;)
MasterMoon
December 13th, 2001, 08:10 PM
Thumb represents spirit, it is the digit that seperates us from other animal forms. The thumb also is a seperate entity in that it is also a replica of the whole. just as the hand is.
Some palmists ony read the thumb, since it also speaks of the whole.
See photo for following discussion
From the tip of the thumb to position one is the first flange or section. From that ponit (1) to point 2 is the second section and from that point to the 3rd is the third section.
Note that I have added point 4 from point 4 to point 2 is a section of skin that tells you where the second flange ends. Do you see it?
Next discussion ....what the phlanges mean
Silver Venus
December 14th, 2001, 06:15 PM
Thats a really interesting theory! I was taught that the big toe is kind of the same for the whole body.
Ive got just realised Ive got two very different thumbs where flangs are!
I see them all! My left thumbs is very smooth and my right wuite fleshy and more little flangs.
Are we supposed to be reading our dominant hand or either? Or do they both tell differen stories?
(Moon ~ Are you thinking about putting this on a website or writting a book on Palmistry cos I dont want to give you a big head.. but I think these lessons are very good!)
MasterMoon
December 14th, 2001, 10:43 PM
I wanted to post this pic of the thumbs. It shows the parrallel between the hands and the two sides of the brain. Right hand, left brain. Left hand right brain. The three phlanges are spirit(will) intelligence and body. Of course if it is the left it refers to the subconcious or the real self and if the right refers to the conscious or ego (the image).
So the way I read is this:.. Start with the part (ex thumb)
then color it (right or left) then flavor it (phlange) this way you dont have to memorize all the meanings. For example I see someone who has just injured their right thumb tip. Well I know right has to do with ego the tip is will and spirit. The injury to the tip means a blow to the ego. (and it is true, I lost my job the next week, it was a sign of course. I hurt my right thumb tip on the job) Markings anywhere on an area has a meaning as well. We will learn what symbols mean next lesson.
Happy reading fellow palmists
Dagda Moon~Lily
December 15th, 2001, 06:45 AM
So, if my left upper third phlange hurt, does that mean my feelings have been hurt??
This is soooo fascinating. What does Color and Flavor it mean?
MasterMoon
December 15th, 2001, 09:25 AM
Color and flavor refer to the way I think of reading, the qualities of the hand in question. For example you start with the thumb.
It has a quality of being short and it is also a left thumb. Well the thumb is spirit. short and left are qualities that I refer to as color and flavor (just a way of thinking you can use any way you choose). the persons will in this case would tend to be aggresive.
By using this method you do not need to look up every meaning in a book, you can do it by understanding flavor and color. Make sense?
Dagda your sore thumb indicates that you have been slighted by someone.
Dagda Moon~Lily
December 15th, 2001, 11:15 AM
Yep, that makes sense. Thank you MM.
I think I've read somewhere that you actually take the color of the hand into account also....whether it's tinted yellow, pink, red etc. Is this true?
:boing:
Hope
December 16th, 2001, 12:50 PM
Wow this is so cool!
So I have a question??
My significant other cut the tip of his left thumb badly needing stitches. It healed and he cut it again more of a nic and a third time a notch out nothing to stitch. I thought it was always because he couldn't "feel" it and should wear chain mesh at work (he is a chef) or pay someone ELSE to do the chopping.
But now I wonder if that has anything to do with this??? Any thoughts??
love and thanks
hope
MasterMoon
December 16th, 2001, 01:06 PM
My significant other cut the tip of his left thumb badly needing stitches. It healed and he cut it again more of a nic and a third time a notch out nothing to stitch. I thought it was always because he couldn't "feel" it and should wear chain mesh at work (he is a chef) or pay someone ELSE to do the chopping.
The spirit presents us with signs, it is up to us to understand them. (The whole point of divination eh?:cool: )
When someone keeps cutting an area of his hand, you could say "be more careful" thats what most would say. To those trained in divination it is a sign that there is a battle between what is logically thought and intuition. In this case, your husband needs to follow his intuition and trust it more, rather than rely on logic. Do you see the battle between the two ?
Also tell him to be more careful and slow down a bit.;)
MasterMoon
December 16th, 2001, 01:15 PM
Dagda to answer your question about hand color. Yes..
Hand color is another factor in a hand reading
Red hands...Temper
Yellow hands Liver issues
Blue hands Bad circulation
What other colors are there??...lol
Hope
December 16th, 2001, 01:32 PM
The spirit presents us with signs, it is up to us to understand them. (The whole point of divination eh? )
When someone keeps cutting an area of his hand, you could say "be more careful" thats what most would say. To those trained in divination it is a sign that there is a battle between what is logically thought and intuition. In this case, your husband needs to follow his intuition and trust it more, rather than rely on logic. Do you see the battle between the two ?
YES!!! Oh I nearly fell out of my chair! He is very melancoly (sp?) and spends alot of time "figuring stuff out" EVEN when he has lots of signs that he already has the answer and that not everything is logical at that moment (if ever) He has been working to try to trust himself more and his intuition! And it has been a real struggle in his head and in his heart (and I guess in his hands LOL).
Blessed Be!
hope
MasterMoon
December 16th, 2001, 02:54 PM
Hope,
That is so cool.
It is good to hear about such an affirmation.
It has to be. What happens to the small happens to the big.
What happens to the voodoo doll happens to the "real" world.
It is the basis for magic and symbolism. The ever repeating pattern of the life force, as it replicates itself the only way it knows how. ( But is extremly efficient).
Next Lesson. The Mighty Forefinger (Jupiter) (ruler)(earth)
Silver Venus
December 17th, 2001, 04:26 PM
So how do we read bumps and planges? Is a high fleshy bump a positive sign or a negative one? :)
My two thumbs are quite different, I bet this has to do with out and in.
Dagda Moon~Lily
December 20th, 2001, 07:58 AM
Master Moon,
I recently found out that I'm pregnant, what can my hands tell me about the baby growing within? Can the lines on my hand tell if I'll have twins? (I've always wanted twins!) You have the photos of my hands. ;)
~D
Silver Venus
December 20th, 2001, 09:16 AM
Thats a brill question :D
Pheonix
December 21st, 2001, 05:29 AM
Sorry i know it's off topic but congrats Dagda!!!! Okay that being said I'll go back to listening to this amazing thread in the corner.
Dagda Moon~Lily
December 21st, 2001, 09:02 AM
Originally posted by Pheonix
Sorry i know it's off topic but congrats Dagda!!!! Okay that being said I'll go back to listening to this amazing thread in the corner.
Thank you! :D
Danustouch
December 21st, 2001, 10:44 AM
Sorry guys, our computer crashed the other day, and then our monitor burned out :( so Master hasn't been able to update.
Dagda...the hands can tell you how many children you will have, but..that is on the side of your hand, below the pinky, on the outside curve of your hand, and the lines are very fine, and tiny. It might be difficult to read them from the scans you sent Master :)
Rick
December 21st, 2001, 08:19 PM
Originally posted by Pheonix
Sorry i know it's off topic but congrats Dagda!!!! Okay that being said I'll go back to listening to this amazing thread in the corner.
Moderator's Note:
In this forum, well wishes are never off topic!
HOO WAH, DAGDA!!!!!
MasterMoon
December 21st, 2001, 09:41 PM
Ok where were we...Oh yes the question about twins..yes I can see that if you send me better scans..cant see it ...cant read it..
I need to see the pinky blade end of your hand..the side that strikes in a karate chop. send to mastermoon3@home.com
A little about The index finger also termed as Jupiter. It is the boss of the fingers. Jupiter is the boss of the planets. There are many markers in this finger, you must know what the length of all the phlanges mean, length of overall finger, markings. All these things have to do with the way you express your authority to the world. Long Jupiter finger means more authority expression in the world. Short Jupiter finger means a follower. Jupiter is the keyword here, it should remind you of being the boss
Dagda Moon~Lily
December 22nd, 2001, 09:14 AM
I'll send them to you as soon as I get home this evening! :D
Gypsy Raven
December 25th, 2001, 06:11 PM
Master Moon I've been reading your lessons and I want to thank you so much for the time you have taken to teach us these awsome things. I also read palms, it's in my family as I'm a Romani Gypsy, but I still have so much to learn!
What does it mean when both thumbs look like they don't belong to the hand, short and bulbus at the top? and what if a person has no heart line ~ I always feel that this indicates a rather cold and calculated charector?
Master you should write a book and get a web page!
Hey, maybe you could get a special page on here to test us on what you have been teaching......you could scan some hands in and get us to read them and you can mark us on our results???!!!
What do you all reckon!
Love n' stuff
Raven X
MasterMoon
December 26th, 2001, 06:35 AM
Master Moon I've been reading your lessons and I want to thank you so much for the time you have taken to teach us these awsome things. I also read palms, it's in my family as I'm a Romani Gypsy, but I still have so much to learn!
What does it mean when both thumbs look like they don't belong to the hand, short and bulbus at the top? and what if a person has no heart line ~ I always feel that this indicates a rather cold and calculated charector?
Gypsy Raven,
Thank you for reading! I also have much to learn. It as though the act of explaining palmistry forces me to dig for words. While this process is happening I often say "hey I never thought of that before". I like when I have new thoughts.
To answer your question about thumbs. The sort you mentioned:"like they don't belong to the hand, short and bulbus at the top". These thumbs belong to a fast thinker. Can be impatient but more of a "schemer". The roundness of the thumb indicates a "smoothness" in thier character as well.
No heart line!? Eghads! Seriously, this is an unusual mark. It is called the Simian hand. It sometimes means genius, it sometimes means a purely focused character. If this hand also has a fleshy mount of mars, watch out! Tempers can fly in this case.
Of course Gypsy all of what I wrote, is in the case that what I picture, is what is there. (I havent seen them)
MasterMoon
December 26th, 2001, 06:47 AM
Dagda asked a question about children. This pic is where we look for info on this. This point is right below the little (mercury) finger. The lines of affection are horizontal slashes. They indicate loves or marriages. 2 slashes 2 loves. There is much more, some cross, some split. In any case it all tells a story. The lines rising up from these affection lines (in women only) indicate children.
Even those that died before birth. a thin line will mean one sex and a short and thick line will mean another. It varies from hand to hand what thin and thick lines mean. Sometimes thick is a boy sometimes it is a girl. You must look closely to see this. In my example I also noticed an upsidedown stick man. I didnt see this until I scanned my hand and through the magnification saw it.
I find this interesting since I associate with the Hanged man in the tarot (by being born on the 12th) (12 in major arcana is the hanged man)
Gypsy Raven
December 26th, 2001, 03:17 PM
Thank you Master Moon!
This is just so awsome!!!! The thumbs I asked you to explain to me belong to an 'ex' and he was a quick thinker and a complete player!!!
What other signs should us chix look for in a guys palm to indicate a no-o type?!
Love n' light
Raven.
Dagda Moon~Lily
December 27th, 2001, 02:18 PM
Thanks MM,
I have no more questions at the moment....but I'm sure I will have tons more along the way! (pst....I'll let you know if that conclusion is correct....if it's what it seems to be <wink> )
~D
MasterMoon
December 29th, 2001, 07:14 AM
Now for the middle finger, known as Saturn. Rules Regulations and Responsibilities are seen here. The things to look for here are length and straightness.
Long Saturn - Very much into discipline and law (Lawyer, priest)
Normal Saturn - Average
Short Saturn - Very undisciplined
*see attached jpeg
Crooked Saturn
Leans towards Jupiter - Self Disciplined (Self made)
Leans towards Apollo - Does not fit with current trends.
Politically incorrect.
I have left these explanations simple. You will expand on this when reading a hand. The elements all together will begin to tell you a story.
MasterMoon
December 29th, 2001, 05:31 PM
The following info is scanned from a book called Hands by Enid Hoffman:
If your first finger is actually longer than your second finger, you may tend to be power_hungry. This is a tendency that you must guard against.
If your first and second fingers are absolutely level with each other, your love of power is too great.
If your first finger is much longer than your third finger, your ambition is greater than your capacity for achievement.
If your third (ring) finger is longer than your first, you have a love of art, but no ambition to become an artist. You should support the arts, or even sustain an interest in them, to compensate for your lack of ambition.
If both your index and ring fingers are equal, you have a great desire for fame and riches.
When the third is longer than the second finger, you love to take risks.
When the middle and third fingers are equal, you are also a gambler.
If the fourth finger is almost equal to the index finger, you are diplomatic.
If the little finger is nearly equal to the middle finger, you are extraordinarily able in the sciences.
If your fourth finger is virtually equal to your third finger, you are versatile and can influence others. Your lively mind allows facile self-expression and fluent speech. You are an adept actor or actress with a talent for mimicry.
Warped, Stunted or Inflated Digits
Our early experiences often warp our egos and our outer selves simultaneously. Our childhood interactions with our families and friends may stunt certain developments while encouraging others to expand. In this way, our personality is shaped, and so is the physical representation of it—our hands.
So those digits that suffered malnutrition are stunted. Those that were overfed become large and important. Society is strong in its efforts to shape and control us. Its effect on us is reflected in the growth of our bones and their rigidity.
It is possible to determine the significance of each structural deviation in the hands. In general, a finger that is curved toward another indicates that the power associated with the bent finger is offered in service to the finger it bows before. Stunted fingers imply a lack of development.
If your hands are warped in ways you dislike, begin straightening them by stroking and manipulating your fingers. A steady application of stroking along with a clear mental image of the shape you desire will bring about a change.
MasterMoon
December 29th, 2001, 05:41 PM
Image scanned from "Hands" by Enid Hoffman
This illustration is for reference:
Rick
December 30th, 2001, 01:55 AM
OK, what if your fingers have changed shape due to injury? Over the years, I've broken the ring finger of my right hand, & the little finger of my left... does this affect those aspects in me?
MasterMoon
December 30th, 2001, 06:46 AM
Rick,
I am sorry to hear of your injurys.
More so than an injured finger affecting your personality, it tells you a story of the issues in your life. An injured jupiter tells about personal authority issues and the injured mercury is about your communication with the world. So using this, think back to the time when the injury happened and see if your body is trying to tell you something.
Often we injure the finger that is associated with our isssues.
Ive done it
Take care
Gypsy Raven
December 30th, 2001, 07:41 PM
Hi! Thanx again MM for this it is really great!!
I just want to say that I agree that hands do have personalities! I love people watching I do it all the time, and it is true that accountants use their hands in a diffrent way to artists (just as an example!)
I use my hands all the time especially when I get really passionate about a conversation! In England it is not the done thing to talk with your hands, and many Brits are litterally told to sit on their hands to prevent them from doing it!
Me? Well I'm a Gypsy and there's no stopping my hands! If they had strings attached they would be constantly tangled! (Ha).
It makes much more interesting 'gorking' when watching a group of excited people wafting their hands around!
The other thing I just wanted to say is that when I've done foot massages I have also noticed the lines are pretty much the same as the palms! I've done some very interesting readings from feet!
Would love to know your opinion on that Master Moon!
Blessings
Gypsy Raven.
MasterMoon
December 31st, 2001, 04:03 AM
Looking at the human body, it is similar to the hand, because of the five extremities. If a person stands with arms and legs out, they resemble a pentagram.
The things that are of the ground, feet, represent Water and Earth. The arms, Fire and Air. The head represents spirit.
So, hand reading represents a different aspect than what the feet do. Fire and Air are more about what the mind is and Water and Earth are about the body.
We can also read faces. (Head) This tells personality more so than a hand. (Thereby reading spirit)
Although I have not yet read any feet, this kind of reading would be suited to the emotional and physical (Water and Earth) aspects of the entity.
Mind Body Spirit is what we are.
Mind - Fire and Air - Left/Right hand - Subconscious/Conscious
Body - Water and Earth - Left/Right foot - BodyFluids/Flesh & Bone
Soul - Spirit - Head - Breath of Life
You can tell if a person is lying because thier spirit gives them away in the form of facial (spirit/head) expression.
People speak with thier hands as a way to express thier minds.
Do you see people talking with thier feet?
People move and serve the body with feet (aquiring body needs)
We could write whole volumes on each of these aspects. But then isnt a book just a long drawn out way of expressing the basics? Once you understand the basics (the formula) you wont need books, you will be quite able to expand using your own experiences and knowledge.
Gypsy Raven
December 31st, 2001, 12:34 PM
Thanx for your answer Master Moon!
RE: Your question:
"Have you ever seen people talk with their feet?"
We obviously use our feet in a diffrent way to how we use our hands, but yes people tap their feet to music, dance, and also when we get excited about something there are some people who do a little dance or wriggle their toes like a giggle, in anger to stamp one's foot etc. Which means that we do talk with our feet but in a diffrent way to the hands.
Thanx for your time ..... and patience MM!
Happy New Year!
Blessings
Gypsy Raven.
MasterMoon
December 31st, 2001, 07:40 PM
Dear Gypsy,
When I asked "do you see people talking with thier feet " I meant no you dont.
When I am on the street and someone gives me directions, they dont point north with thier foot they use thier hand (well at least around here they do) to make it simple, the foots job (99.99%) of it is to carry the body. The hands job is mostly to do things but a big part is to gesture. Tapping your foot to music is not talking but rather "finding the beat". Oh you could say its talking but im trying to keep this simple. Then again, are there armless people who speak in sign language with thier feet.?? This would be an exception to the rule. Or another exception would be seminar speakers, who take off thier shoes and socks when giving a speech, so as to double thier gesturing capacity.
I apologize for my blunt manner.
Moon
Gypsy Raven
January 1st, 2002, 11:14 AM
Hi Master Moon! Happy New Year!!!
Don't ever appolagize for your manner it's perfectly fine! I appreciate you taking time to answer my questions, even if they do seem a little silly to you.
You made a good point and I understand what you are saying now! Thanx!
Till next time
Gypsy Raven.
MasterMoon
January 1st, 2002, 12:57 PM
The ring finger also known as Apollo is the finger of art and creation.
Length, shows your tendency to take risks, while the shape is indicative of your capacity for detail. Apollo's angle is a measure of taste, and which phalange is dominant shows in just what realms your tastes lie. Apollo's fingertip, reveals how you interact with the realm of creativity itself—whether as artist or patron of the arts.
The average Apollo finger is about the same length as the Jupiter finger, and both should ideally extend to just above the bottom of Saturn's nail. A good balance between Apollo and Jupiter equals a good balance between creativity and ambition—which for an artist is a good thing to have. In fact, those whose strong Apollo fingers coupled with strong Jupiter fingers are often the more successful artists because they understand self-promotion as well as the creative urge.
When Apollo is long (that is, longer than Jupiter by at least half a nail, or reaching past the halfway point of Saturn's nail), an artistic temperament is clearly evident—though that same temperament may keep the person from consistent artistic expression.
How does your Apollo measure up?
How does that fit with the way you are?
MasterMoon
January 1st, 2002, 01:13 PM
Mercury Finger
Mercury is named for the winged messenger god, whose areas of responsibility include wealth, trade, travel, commerce, manual dexterity, eloquence, rapidity of thought, the wind, and protection of the animal kingdom Among his many accomplishments, Mercury invented the lyre and the winged sandals, stole Apollo's cattle, and discovered fire. Further, he supposedly did all this in the first 24 hours of his life. It's easy to see why the word "Mercurian" is synonymous with the word "versatile."
Length of the Mercury Finger
The length of your Mercury finger is an indication of how clever you are. Do you have the gift of gab or are you the strong, silent type?
The average Mercury finger reaches to the bottom of Apollo's nail. Now, Mercury's not next to the~ Jupiter (index) finger, it's next to Apollo, the ring finger, which is just one good reason for using your ruler to measure its length. Another reason is that many peoples' Mercury fingers are set lower than their other fingers, with the third phalange's bottom well below the other fingers. Mercury should be measured by its length rather than its set to determine its true length.
When Mercury is longer than average, it can indicate someone who's "too clever by far." These people can't help but make money—but they may not have too many lasting personal relationships.
A shorter Mercury can indicate a person who's not necessarily skilled in the art of communication; perhaps the gift of gab doesn't come easily.
MasterMoon
January 1st, 2002, 01:34 PM
This is an Illustration of the aspects we have covered so far.
What can you tell me about this person/hand?
Any takers?
Hope
January 1st, 2002, 09:03 PM
Ok I will be brave and give it a little shot:)
I would say the person was diplomatic and down to earth with a good balance between creativity and ambition and a simple approach to life. Has a desire for fame and riches and can be focused on what others have. Could be susceptible to intestinal problems.
Ok how did I do??
love
hope
MasterMoon
January 2nd, 2002, 05:12 AM
Hope..You did well.
However seeing that this is a classroom of sorts, how did you get your answers?
Example...seeing that the apollo finger is a bit long..this hand/person has artistict talent or a love of art.
Silver Venus
January 2nd, 2002, 02:53 PM
At a shot Id say Love of art.. but Ive havent been reaidng up for the past week or so and I really have to go back through all this and make it all into a word document to print out :)
Its really getting interesting now :boing:
I will comment on the hand tomorrow!
Happy 2002 all! :)
Hope
January 2nd, 2002, 04:10 PM
OK
It was an earth hand so that gave me very down to earth and simple approach to life and and can be focused on what other people have (I left out feels passionate about some things) also could be susceptible to intestinal problems. My opinion was that the jupiter and Apollo fingers were almost equal thus the desirte for fame and riches, and I came up with diplomatic because when I measured the 4th finger (Mercury) I felt like it was about as long as Jupiter.
Oh and I thought there was a good balance between Apollo and Jupiter thus a good balance between creativity and ambition.
Is that better?? :) And did I still do good??
love
hope
MasterMoon
January 2nd, 2002, 05:21 PM
It was an earth hand so that gave me very down to earth and simple approach to life and and can be focused on what other people have (I left out feels passionate about some things) also could be susceptible to intestinal problems. My opinion was that the jupiter and Apollo fingers were almost equal thus the desirte for fame and riches, and I came up with diplomatic because when I measured the 4th finger (Mercury) I felt like it was about as long as Jupiter.
Oh and I thought there was a good balance between Apollo and Jupiter thus a good balance between creativity and ambition.
Hope,
You did very well in your reading.
A couple questions. Where do you find "focused on what other people have?"
And how do you see " the desire of fame and riches" from Jupiter and Apollo?
Did you notice the slight curve of Jupiter? What does this tell you?
Oh and passionate ...YES!...that is seen in the fleshy mount of venus (the base of the thumb)
MasterMoon
January 2nd, 2002, 05:35 PM
I will not add more to this thread with the exception of answering a question or a comment. Of course I will be checking for questions or comments.
In review:
We have talked about DNA and how it is the blueprint of the body
The four major types of hand (there are many combinations)
Earth, Air, Fire, Water
The aspects of the four fingers
Thumb - Spirit
Forefinger - Jupiter
Middle - Saturn
Ring - Apollo
Pinky - Mercury
Another thing we may not have covered is the aspects of right and left hand. The left hand is the past (if you are right handed)
and the right is the present and future.
When someone has made a lot of changes in thier life, it shows in the hands.
The left (the past and what you were given at birth) differs from the right (what you have done with what was given to you).
And whatever line is different that is the area they have made changes in. Ex. if someones right hand has deeper heart lines than the left then they have learned to feel more deeply.
I have seen quite a few examples of this. Cool eh??
Hope
January 2nd, 2002, 05:46 PM
well....
I got "focused on what other people have" from what you wrote in the Earth hand explaination.
"This types life is all about "what they have" I interpert that as what "they" other people have I guess I should have meant what "they" the earth hand had???
on your explanation of fingers you said that "if both your index and ring fingers are equal, you have a great desire for fame and riches"
I did not printout the pic of the hand, but I "kinda" measured it with my pen cap and felt like they were about equal in length I am assuming from your question that isn't right??
Oh and the reason I got passionate about some things was from the earth hand explanation, not from the thumb :) oops
And fianlly no I didn't get the curved Jupiter???
So I am guessing I did "less good" now ;)
love
hope
Hope
January 2nd, 2002, 05:50 PM
Wait !!! I have questions :)
I can't quite figure out the lines of how many loves and how many kids.
love
hope
MasterMoon
January 2nd, 2002, 06:13 PM
Hope,
TY now I understand. Earth hand "what they have" means what the person in question has.
Im glad we got that straight.
And you did very well!!
do you have a scanner?
Hope
January 2nd, 2002, 06:44 PM
Thanks!!!
No I don't have a scanner:( But I think I can use the one at kinko's why?
hope
MasterMoon
January 2nd, 2002, 07:37 PM
hope,
I was going to say if you could get me a pic of your hand I could show you where the lines of affection and the child lines are
Hope
January 2nd, 2002, 08:01 PM
That would be awesome!! I will see if I can get my hand scanned I am right handed should I do both or only left or only right?
love
hope
MasterMoon
January 2nd, 2002, 08:17 PM
Hope,
Scan your right hand. I need heavy detail.! Your image should end up being 750 K or so.
I have to be able to see a grain of salt on your hand (if there was one).
Danustouch
February 1st, 2002, 05:06 PM
*bump*
MasterMoon
June 14th, 2002, 07:36 PM
bump
there the palmistry thread is now resurrected!
WtchyChick13
June 15th, 2002, 02:31 AM
Yippee! Thanks so much!!!!
:boing: :boing: :boing: :boing: :boing:
(Added much later):
Well, I have just gone through the teachings you gave us and I am so happy. I tend to have a problem reading and comprehending things (sort of a dyslexic problem) and this was very easy to understand. I even made sure to copy everything (I even saved the pics) so that I can go back and re-read or print them out. :)
I do have a few questions but will only bore you with one now--I am ambidextrous. I write with my left hand but do almost everything else right-handed. (Cut w/scissors, bat, everything.) Really the only thing I do left-handed is write.
What would be considered the dominant hand or rather, what hand would be read? I understand that for some palmists, it is customary (sp?) to read both...I was just wondering.
Thank you again for bringing this back--I've learned so much tonite. Thanks for taking the time to do this--I can see you really spent a lot of your time to do this. :)
***Many Blessings***
MasterMoon
June 15th, 2002, 06:45 AM
I do have a few questions but will only bore you with one now--I am ambidextrous. I write with my left hand but do almost everything else right-handed. (Cut w/scissors, bat, everything.) Really the only thing I do left-handed is write.
What would be considered the dominant hand or rather, what hand would be read? I understand that for some palmists, it is customary (sp?) to read both...I was just wondering.
Being ambidextrous is certainly a sign of a balanced mind. You are using both hemispheres of the brain in a way that most people do not. When I read dominant hands, they represent present and future. The passive hand is the past. If neither hand is dominant (which is rare), then I would read that as a sign that the person is present. (vs living in the past or future).
A way to tell hand dominance is to line up the same nails of each hand. The wider nail is the dominant one.
WtchyChick13
June 16th, 2002, 06:27 PM
Being ambidextrous is certainly a sign of a balanced mind.
If you really knew me, you'd know I'm faaaaaaaarrrrr from balanced!! LOL (Just ask LdyStarlite!) hehehe
Well, from what you said about the wider nails on the more dominant hand, at first I thought it was my left, but as I look more closely, it seems as if I am right dominant. Which I guess would make sense since like I said, I tend to do things more with my right hand.
This is such great stuff!!! Thanks so much--I'm really enjoying this! :)
MasterMoon
June 17th, 2002, 07:31 PM
Each hand is run by different spheres of the cerebrum. The left hand is run by the right side and the right hand is run by the left side. When a person shows to be ambidextrous, it means that each hemisphere of the brain is equally developed. This is what I mean by a balanced mind. Right handed people were the analytical thinkers and love numbers and facts. Left handed people are more the feelers and intutive ones. Artists and Musicians are in this category.
Flar's Freyja
June 17th, 2002, 11:28 PM
I'm right handed but only analytical when it comes to thinking and feeling (I'm a social worker by profession). I also hate numbers!
WtchyChick13
June 18th, 2002, 01:12 AM
Each hand is run by different spheres of the cerebrum. The left hand is run by the right side and the right hand is run by the left side. When a person shows to be ambidextrous, it means that each hemisphere of the brain is equally developed. This is what I mean by a balanced mind.
I knew what you meant, I was just kidding. :) :) :) :)
I seem to have a bit of each in me--I'm intuitive and artistic, but I will analyze anything to death. I guess the ambidextrous thing must really be in full force here. :D
Flar's Freyja
June 18th, 2002, 08:07 PM
A way to tell hand dominance is to line up the same nails of each hand. The wider nail is the dominant one.
That is fascinating. The difference is more obvious in my ring and pinky finger.
Scarlett O
June 26th, 2002, 02:48 PM
Odd...It seems that the nails on my left hand are bigger, and I'm right handed.
What do you think MM?
MasterMoon
June 26th, 2002, 07:27 PM
Odd...It seems that the nails on my left hand are bigger, and I'm right handed.
That is odd because the reason the nails are bigger on the dominant hand is not mysterious, it comes from simple use of the hand.
The more you use a hand, the larger the nails become due to the workload placed on it.
It would be like saying "Ive been doing curls with my right arm for 2 years but my left arm is growing muscles!"
Maybe your not lining the nails up the right way, or you do a lot of tasks with your left hand....
Flar's Freyja
June 28th, 2002, 08:04 AM
Originally posted by MasterMoon
The DNA are the "mini me" of the brain.
When you change though so does your DNA, and then the lines in your hands reflect it. So physical reality is created by thought.
The mind, void in nature, creates thought, thought in turn create DNA , DNA in turn blueprint reality in the body.
So ~ are you saying that the lines in our palms actually change as we change our thoughts?
I had a reading last year where the reader told me that I will always have money....believe me, I cling to that one!
MasterMoon
June 28th, 2002, 09:09 AM
So ~ are you saying that the lines in our palms actually change as we change our thoughts?
This is the theory.
I dont believe the lines can be changed through conscious thought though. In order for change to occur, the deeper mind has to be activated.
Now this is all my opinion:
I think in a case where conscious mind (the image) was reset, the subconscious brain would be able to reset itself and then the lines could change. Unfortunatly, there is nothing anyone can do with the conscious mind that would have this effect. Because no matter what you do, your stopping it. Let me rephrase, the conscious mind itself is the thing/no-thing that keeps change from occuring. We talk about enlightenment and renewing and expanding the mind, but all this is simply keeping that entrenched pattern alive.
Its more of a matter of getting off the merry go round entirely, rather than trying to fix it or get comfortable on it.
So unless one is able to reset the consciousness by burning it away, no signifigant change will occur. It (the conscious)is the very thing that is stopping transformation and it cannot be fixed.
Supposedly, and I have no way of presently proving this, there is an area of the brain that borders on the fringe of the real world as we know it and the quantum world. It is said that anything impressed on this part of the brain becomes reality. However there is nothing that you can do to activate it. It is what it is.
Resetting the conscious, (such as by amnesia not lombotomy) may however force this part of the brain to reform its experience. Thereby changing the DNA and hence destiny; of which your body is a demonstration of.
Your body is a roadmap of your destiny and karma.
Your hands then, are a copy of this map and show all the basic particulars of your organism.
I hope this makes sense.
Flar's Freyja
June 29th, 2002, 01:09 PM
:) It does. Thanks!
MasterMoon
July 1st, 2002, 07:36 AM
If any of you would like to send scans of your hands, please do.
The higher the resolution the better. The better the scan, the better the reading.
I havent read in a while and I feel like practicing.
I suppose you could send the scans here, or if there is a problem with the size, you could send it to mastermoon3@cox.net
Indeed!
Rick
October 30th, 2002, 06:12 PM
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