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flesh canvas
August 30th, 2005, 12:16 AM
If I give my d.o.b. as well as his & suchlike, can someone PLEASE help me/cast a chart for me? I've already read our charts on astro.com, but nothing about how compatable we supposedly are.

Me: Nov 10, 1983 9:05 am
Him: Dec 6, 1977 about 9 am

Danke Chen!

Fluffmeister
August 30th, 2005, 06:31 AM
If I give my d.o.b. as well as his & suchlike, can someone PLEASE help me/cast a chart for me? I've already read our charts on astro.com, but nothing about how compatable we supposedly are.

Me: Nov 10, 1983 9:05 am
Him: Dec 6, 1977 about 9 am

Danke Chen!

Almost there - you'll need to give places of birth too.

flesh canvas
August 30th, 2005, 07:49 AM
Almost there - you'll need to give places of birth too.

me: Orlando, FL
him: NYC, NY

Fluffmeister
August 30th, 2005, 10:15 AM
Wow, what amazing charts! You have a lot of stuff crammed into Scorpio, Sag and Cap, and so does he!

So we can see there's already some "synastry" there (synastry is the astrological term for looking at two charts to see how compatible they are) - with most of your planets all crammed into the same spots.

Now, the question people *always* ask is "I'm a Scorpio, which signs will I get on with?". And as I'm sure you know, it isn't as easy as that. You're a Scorpio Sun, he's a Sag Sun and those two energies are very, very different - Scorpio is intense and deep and like to dig deep; Sag tends to be sunny and optimistic, and has a tendency to brush problems under the carpet and put a happy face on. But in synastry, we tend to look at Venus and Mars a lot more as our first pointer, and look for synastry between the two.

OK, well your Venus is in Libra. Happy, happy Venus - she rules Libra. His Venus is in Sag - a bit fickle, but fun-loving, and makes a nice sextile (60 degree angle) to your Venus. Other than that, no Venus/Mars aspects really - his Mars in Leo doesn't gel too well with your Mars in Virgo, though is quite happy with your Venus in Libra (not close enough to be an actual "aspect" though).

Your Moon is about how you relate emotionally. Yours is in Capricorn, which takes emotions very seriously indeed. In fact, with that Moon/Pluto square, you probably had a very serious childhood - this aspect can sometimes mean issues with how you were brought up, or with mother, or could just mean a very intense bond. At any rate, Moon/Pluto contacts aren't to be taken lightly. And he also has a Moon/Pluto contact - square to your Moon. The fact that there is a contact here means there's a connection, but the square (90 degree) connection means that this isn't an easy one. You may both have an understanding of each other because you faced the same sort of issues in childhood - but you deal with them differently, and this could lead to arguments or a dramatic difference in approach to life.

His Neptune is right on your Ascendant. This is lovely and romantic, but can also indicate that you're seeing the relationship through rose-coloured glasses, and things may not be what they seem in the cold light of day. Having said that, his Sun is on your Jupiter, which is a very fortunate placement, and your Junos are trine (Juno is an asteroid associated with marriage, trine is a lovely 120 degree compatible angle).

So to summarise, I'd say you have a lot of shared issues, and the relationship could work but it will need work and mutual understanding to succeed.

flesh canvas
August 30th, 2005, 05:23 PM
Thank you so much, that was all dead-on! :) :)

Yea, he's a complicated little Sag... because of my feelings for him, I've put a leash on my Scorpio traits that I know he'd abhor (jealousy, possessiveness, manipulative) & I actually do find how silly these tendencies/traits really are. I love him dearly, but its always so hard to tell how he feels about me... until he gets drunk & the truth comes out ("oh I love you, you're amazing") hahahahaha. In spite of the fact that I never really know how he feels towards me, I still understand him & I trust him whole-heartedly... in the sense that I know he wouldn't lie to me & he would be open with me if he took interest in someone else. He's got a major pre-occupation with worrying over the fact that I'll hate him eventually, so he's trying not to get too attached (or at least not admitting that he is, I'm not sure which one) because he's afraid I'll hate him... he used to be very open with his love, & has loved a couple of women very deeply (the way only a Sag can love) only to have his heart handed back to him ripped to pieces. It's just that it appears to me that I'm the the one doing all the understanding & compromising! I love him very very much & I feel a major connection with him, but I can't spend my life waiting for him to come around & accept that I'm NOT the other girls (if I were, I'd be gone by now). THe only reason I haven't let go yet is because of my feelings for him & because I see such potential in our connection.
btw, just a little back story, I've known him for almost 3 years & we've been "interested in each other" (he won't even officially *date* me, how cruel :() for almost a year. So yea, I've been hanging around for almost a year, I know he's not just messing with me because we were very close friends before all this (& still close now, we've yet to even ever argue) & we've seen each other thru make ups & break ups with other people, so we know how each other are in relationships. I know that whatever feelings he does have are genuine, its just hard being able to tell what those feelings are! I can accept his Sag wanderlust & give him all the freedom he wants (because I trust him), but he's not meeting me halfway.

By your estimation, & looking at the charts, or maybe even ignoring the charts & going by your own experience, What should I do??? Any advice would be *deeply* appreciated. & thank you again for reading our charts.

PS: The moon/pluto thing you mentioned, about me being a very serious child etc, was so accurate its almost spooky. My mother & I did have some issues... I remember I was constantly being accused of being over dramatic (well how was I supposed to react when she left me to live with her boyfriend & I never got to see her?). It wasn't until my late teens that I mellowed out a little. & she & I still have some issues lurking under the surface of our rebuilt relationship. She still doesn't feel like "Mother" to me. Hm... uncanny.

Fluffmeister
August 30th, 2005, 07:13 PM
Thank you so much, that was all dead-on! :) :)

By your estimation, & looking at the charts, or maybe even ignoring the charts & going by your own experience, What should I do??? Any advice would be *deeply* appreciated. & thank you again for reading our charts.



I would never, ever give advice about what someone "should" do in a relationship - that would be putting my own experiences and values onto someone else, and that never works. Even the astrology should only be used as a guide to where the difficult bits lie - because *every* relationship has its good and bad bits, and the synastry can help identify the areas that will need work.

The reason I really want to stress this is because I had a student in my astrology class a few years ago. When it came to the lesson on synastry, she put the chart of her and her husband up. The synastry was *terrible*. I was glad I didn't have to interpret it - because this was a lesson on synastry, so I got *her* to interpret it.

"Oh yes, this aspect would mean we argue all the time... yes, we do, terrible rows"... "this one means we don't see eye to eye on our interests, that's true too - he thinks me doing astrology is a load of rubbish, I think his fishing trips are tedious..." and on and on it went. Each aspect she interpreted pretty well, and agreed with the negative tone of it!

As it happened, I knew both her and her husband, so with a class full of worried looking faces wondering if they were about to see this woman announce her forthcoming divorce, I asked her how long they'd been together.

"Fifty two years", she said. "And we don't see eye to eye on anything - but we love each other to bits".

So synastry isn't everything. Like most of astrology, it's a road map. My friend and her husband had a good relationship and still love each other deeply, because they accommodated each other and were happy to agree to disagree on various areas (like astrology and fishing), while allowing each other the freedom to pursue their own interests. Similarly, I've seen relationships whose charts have good synastry collapse over apparently small things.

Ultimately, although the astrology might tell you what sort of things you'll argue about - because everyone argues about something - it won't tell you whether a relationship will actually *work* or not.

flesh canvas
August 30th, 2005, 07:21 PM
:) Trust me, I understand completely. Thats so awesome, about the couple who've been together 52 years! I guess I'll just have to keep following my heart on this one, & either continue to wait it out or finally throw my hands up & move on. Ultimately, I'm confident our bond is strong enough to remain friends thru whatever may happen.
Thanks for the insight!