School allows swearing at teachers

[RowanMegaera]

Very nice! I'm all for freedom of speech, but goodness gracious...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9132814/ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9132814/)

[Shanti]

But this is only for 2 classes and the kids are 15/16 and these are problem classes. These are students that dont go by regular style teaching.
I dont see it hurting to try it. If it helps a problem kid who is on a downhill spiral do better, than perhaps giving them some blow off steam room may help. And the number is for the hole class not for each student. They also are incorporating acknowledging the kids who choose not to swear.

Very difficult circumstances sometimes require unusual methods.

[WickedBttrfly]

Kids are gonna swear anyways lol. Atleast I know I did. I said the f word in front of the whole staff and senior class one time at graduation practice lol.

Plus, if they have to count how many times they use it, then they're going to have to pay more attention to what they say. And believe it or not, it will probably help reduce their usage. Well of some words anyways.

I don't know about the whole swearing at the teachers part, though.

[FroggieThePunk]

That is pretty swanky, I wish I had had that when I was in high school. At least then I wouldn't have had to give the disclaimer at the begining of every semester "I swear. And I have and espress my opinions. Don't like it? Deal with it." The Teachers hated that, but that is what they got in the introductions. Even teachers that were considered so hard core by other students on the no swearing rule were amazed when I pulled it off in front of them.

So what can I say? I swear. F*** it.

[Chibi-Fallon]

I was allowed to swear in my HS clases like it wasn't a rule or anything but no one did anything about it.
At least once I became an upper classman. In AP US Gov it seemed like everytime I raised my hand (and in my head I said d@mn hand to give an idea) something slipped out. At somepoint everyone becomes big enough

[Mistress_Ravenshadow]

the sad thing is that more then likely by putting a 5x f limit on the students the word will actually be used less then if they didn't have the limit.. by actually putting a limit on it, the students may think more before they speak.. maybe it will work maybe it won't but i would think a mouthful of wasabi would be a more effective way to stop the use of the word (maybe I'm just mean lol)

[bbnflpn]

hmmm, only the f word huh. what about the other words. i know that i say alot of the other words alot like d@mn and sh!it other than that i am pretty clean. for the most part. its usually when i am retelling something that happend that all the cuss words will come out. my mom calls me on it all the time and says somthing like "you really didnt say it that way did you?" im like um no just like that minus the cuss words.

[pawnman]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9132814/ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9132814/)

One school in England is allowing students to use the F-word up to five times a lesson. Any more than that and the class will be "spoken to".

Does anyone else think this is utterly ridiculous? Aren't the teachers supposed to be in charge?

[Shanti]

Thres another thread floating around here.

And the article says its 2 classes for the problem kids who are 15/16.

Sometimes doing things differantly works for the kids with troubles. It doesnt hurt to try. Regular ways of handling these troubled students doesnt work.

[Mithrea]

The school I used to teach at let them do alot more than that at teachers . . .

[Bix]

I really don't see how letting kids cuss will improve behavioral problems.

[Silvan]

Does anyone else think this is utterly ridiculous? Aren't the teachers supposed to be in charge?Supposed to be, but aren't. That's very truly why I'm a truck driver instead of a teacher. I just wouldn't be able to hack it at all.

I can say that as an almost-teacher, there's no way I'd stand up for kids telling me to eff myself in class. A career at Wal-Mart only pays a little less than teaching in the first place. It wouldn't be worth it by a long shot, and no, I don't think this sounds like a good policy at all.

Poll: "Do you think kids should be allowed to use the effword in class?"

Answer: F*** no!!!

[Earthy]

Wow! Thank goodness my daughter doesn't go to that school then.
I would not be happy.

[Cassie]

As a teacher it worries me a lot. I've had a few unpleasent teaching experiences in schools. Now I live abroad and teach English privately which avoids some of the behavioral problems you encounter more and more in schools.
I understand that in the school mentioned, bad language is probably the least of their problems, still I can't help thinking that allowing verbal disrespect only promotes it in other ways.

[Mindflayer]

I've had a few teachers in highschool that really didn't care if you cursed or not, hell, they did it too!

Now, in college, my school has a very laid-back atmosphere, and the teachers will (and do) curse, because that is how their students talk, and it helps get the point across because they say it in a way we understand.

Though, most of the teachers at my school aren't "teachers", they're people from the industry teaching the classes. These are people who haven't just studied the field but have actually been EMPLOYED in it.

[Chibi-Fallon]

I really don't see how letting kids cuss will improve behavioral problems.
But it's better then trying to punish each and every offense.


They're "troubled" you don't wind up that way by yourself.
My jr. high had one of these schools in our basement. Those kids got to curse as much as they wanted I believed (we had to have gym and health with them, nightmare). They've got bigger issues like not trying to kill people when they get angry at them. For some of those kids if all they did was swear when they got angry, it was a *wonderful* thing.

[Calen]

I think it's one thing for teachers (those with older pupils, anyway) to allow some leniency about cursing; it does happen, and if they aren't being disrespectful (i.e directing it at someone, rather than using it as an exclaimation, which lots of people do) the teachers I have had don't generally kick up a fuss.

I think it's something else entirely to tell kids they are allowed to direct obscenities at people in school, regardless of any limitations they might put on it. There are things that are socially acceptable and things that aren't. Directing profanities at other people is not, and schools shouldn't be saying that it is, even if they only do it four times a day.

[SilentDreams]

I think this is a good idea. Especially the swearing at teachers part. I mean, isn't the whole reason a person swears at another to piss them off or start some trouble? Well if the teachers are expecting it and let the students know its okay then really how many students after a while will feel the need to curse at the teacher if it gets no negative reaction?