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Shanti
September 1st, 2005, 01:16 AM
The caes of NOLA is unique. Its not like other disasters.
Read the article, its 2 pages long. Link (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9150429/)

"I surmise that there are people in New Orleans who will not be able to get back to their homes for months, if not forever," said Michael D. Brown, undersecretary of homeland security for emergency preparedness and response. "It will be a Herculean undertaking."


"This is the worst case," Hugh B. Kaufman, a senior policy analyst at the Environmental Protection Agency, said of the toxic stew that contaminates New Orleans. "There is not enough money in the gross national product of the United States to dispose of the amount of hazardous material in the area."

Louisiana, a center of the oil, gas and chemical industries, "was known for its very weak enforcement regulations," Kaufman said, and there are a number of landfills and storage areas containing "thousands of tons" of hazardous material to be leaked and spread. "On top of that, you have dead bodies that are going to start to decompose, along with the material that was in industrial and household discharge, sewage, gasoline and waste oil from gas stations," he added. "You've got a witches' brew of contaminated water."

Given New Orleans's desperate straits, recovery teams will not be able to do anything with the toxic mess except pump it into the Gulf of Mexico, ensuring that the contamination will spread to a larger area, he said. "There's just no other place for it."

Once the water is gone, environmental officials will likely undertake a "grid survey," sampling the formerly flooded areas to get soil profiles and determine how safe it is for residents to move back or rebuild.

The survey is likely to take six months. "If it were me, I wouldn't go back until there was a solid assessment of contamination of the land," Kaufman said. And even then, he added, authorities will be monitoring levels of water toxicity along the coastline for years: "There is no magic chemical that you can put in the Gulf to make heavy metals or benzene go away. You're stuck with it."

Vetteman
September 1st, 2005, 07:57 AM
Yes to it all, It boggles my mind to try to even think about how to clean it up

ShadowcatX
September 1st, 2005, 09:37 AM
This had never occurred to me, about having to clean everything up environmentally. That sucks.

Tom Bombadil
September 1st, 2005, 09:46 AM
The solution is dilution....*shudders* Benzene is so awful for marine life.

SSanf
September 1st, 2005, 10:02 AM
Don't think they should dump it into the Gulf of Mexico. Maybe, they should leave it where it is and give up on NO. Trying to rebuild could be even worse.

I am so very, very sorry! I wish with my whole heart that things were different.

I think NO is done for the forseable future.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9150429/ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9150429/)


"Officials in Baton Rouge, La., yesterday painted a bleak picture of New Orleans' immediate future. Its 485,000 inhabitants are refugees or soon-to-be refugees -- ordered out of town because the town is unlivable."

We have to move over and make room for them. They will be like the Oakies of days gone by! That is 9700 citizens per state that we must, now, make room for!

Many won't even have proper identification. And, I wonder if their records are lost.

Time for us to rise to the challenge as a country!

Storm Moon
September 1st, 2005, 10:08 AM
We've had several come to BG who has family. I say they're definitely welcome in Kentucky. If I lived there, I don't think I'd even go back to be honest...

Faery-Wings
September 1st, 2005, 10:19 AM
On top of that, you have dead bodies that are going to start to decompose

Not to be morbid, but isn't in NO that many of the graves are above ground as well? So they could be facing a contamination of the previously dead as well as the "new" dead?

These poor people, it truly is unbelieveable... :(

Trithemius
September 1st, 2005, 10:34 AM
We've got some people from NO who made it up here to Missouri, too.

Not to be morbid, but isn't in NO that many of the graves are above ground as well? So they could be facing a contamination of the previously dead as well as the "new" dead?

These poor people, it truly is unbelieveable... :(

I think you're right. I've been wondering how the cemeteries fared. The above ground vaults are more than likely gone, and I wouldn't be surprised if the buried coffins have worked their way to the surface.

Dark Phoenix
September 1st, 2005, 10:42 AM
It's a big mess that's going to take months maybe even years to clean up, I bet not many people thought mother nature could put a U.S. city out of commission for months but all you can do is clean it up the best you can.

Valnorran
September 1st, 2005, 11:09 AM
Not to be morbid, but isn't in NO that many of the graves are above ground as well? So they could be facing a contamination of the previously dead as well as the "new" dead?
Unlikely. Graves in southern Louisiana, whether above ground or below, are sealed in concrete. French colonists learned early on that simply putting a coffin in the ground will result in a return of the deceased as soon as the ground is saturated, so they started using above ground crypts. Later, they started putting coffins in cement lined graves.

Agaliha
September 1st, 2005, 09:53 PM
That was all things I was worried about. All the toxins and pollution going into the waters and killing/infecting our animals, ecosystem and waters.
Oh no!!! The manatees in Florida...their sanctuary will be polluted. :wah: damn it!
The effects of the things in the waters will probably be felt for a few generations....
PLUS all the people that live there. THe soil, the gound, the trees everything is soaking up the toxins and waste.
You couldn't eat anything grown on those soils-- there goes the Coffee production. Kids can't play in the park....it's just unlivable.
How sad :(

pawnman
September 4th, 2005, 04:18 PM
Don't think they should dump it into the Gulf of Mexico. Maybe, they should leave it where it is and give up on NO. Trying to rebuild could be even worse.

I am so very, very sorry! I wish with my whole heart that things were different.

I think NO is done for the forseable future.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9150429/ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9150429/)


"Officials in Baton Rouge, La., yesterday painted a bleak picture of New Orleans' immediate future. Its 485,000 inhabitants are refugees or soon-to-be refugees -- ordered out of town because the town is unlivable."

We have to move over and make room for them. They will be like the Oakies of days gone by! That is 9700 citizens per state that we must, now, make room for!

Many won't even have proper identification. And, I wonder if their records are lost.

Time for us to rise to the challenge as a country!

Of course, if you leave it right where it is, it seeps into the ground water, making that toxic as well and it still ends up flowing into the Gulf.