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Yvonne Belisle
November 19th, 2001, 03:00 PM
The following arrived in my husbands email today and I was interested in what it had to say. Does anyone have more information on this I would be interested in knowing if this is true or false. Thank you.


At a UNC lecture the other day they played an old video of
Lt. Col. Oliver North testifying at the Iran-Contra hearings during the
Reagan Administration.

There was Ollie in front of God and country getting the
third degree. But what he said was stunning!!

He was being drilled by some senator; "Did you not
recently spend close to
$ 60,000 for a home security system?"
Ollie replied, "Yes I did sir."
The senator continued, trying to get a laugh out of the
audience, "Isn't this just a little excessive?"
'No sir,' continued Ollie.
"No? And why not?" the senator asked.
"Because the lives of my family and I were threatened
'Threatened? By whom?" the senator questioned.
'By a terrorist, sir.' Ollie answered.
'Terrorist? What terrorist could possibly scare you that
"His name is Osama bin Laden sir." Ollie replied.
At this point the senator tried to repeat the name, but
couldn't pronounce
it, which most people back then probably couldn't. A
couple of people laughed
at the attempt. Then the senator continued.
"Why are you so afraid of this man?" the senator asked.
"Because sir, he is the most evil person alive that I
know of," Ollie answered
"And what do you recommend we do about him?" asked the
"Well sir, if it were up to me, I would recommend that an
assassin team be
formed to eliminate him and his men from the face of the
The senator disagreed with this approach and that was all
that was shown of the clip.

November 19th, 2001, 04:41 PM

its about the 7th one down and it is a hoax


November 19th, 2001, 05:01 PM
The TRUE version of Ollie and Osama the latest from Ollie
Ollie North: ‘Not All Muslims
But only Christians will go to heaven

by Nick Schou

TV, newspapers, weekly
magazines—since Sept. 11, many of
them have been asking the same
question in bold headlines: "Why do they
hate us?"

Ollie North has the answer: Muslim
radicals hate us not because we’re free
and rich nor because U.S. foreign policy
in the Middle East has been designed to
guarantee the unfettered flow of oil.

No, North tells us, Muslim
fundamentalists hate us because they
"know what the scripture tells us, which
is that the only path to God in heaven is
through his son, our savior, Jesus

Speaking at Anaheim’s Melodyland
Christian Center Church on Nov. 11, the Fox News commentator and former
Marine Corps officer said he agreed with "his colleagues in the ‘mainstream’
news media" that not all Muslims are evil or hate America. But pointing at
what appeared to be a Bible, North said, "We know that every single word in
this book is true." And because of that, North asserted, America’s Islamic
enemies, including Osama bin Laden and the Taliban, hate Christians.

North’s stunning revelation that only Christians will go to heaven came about
two-thirds of the way through his Veterans Day speech, "Security in Uncertain

The event began with 30 minutes of gospel singing, featuring deafening
piped-in music and a band that performed such classics as "Our God Is an
Awesome God." Children in the audience were treated to a special
appearance by a quartet of costumed holy warriors—an Inspector Gadget
look-alike, a fat girl with blue hair, an apoplectic kung fu expert, and a
human-sized crime-fighting dog. They took the stage to a throbbing techno
beat while Evil—represented by a man in a Mexican lucha libre
costume—ran around the stage, flailing his arms as the sound system rattled
with his maniacal laughter.

Introducing North, Melodyland’s senior pastor, a crewcut South African
named Neville McDonald, addressed the topic of insecurity as a white person
who had "experienced terrorism" in South Africa. As many in the crowd
began to shed tears, Neville urged them to scream and shout out their love of
Jesus, saying that he learned to be loud in the military. "We are soldiers in the
army of God," he explained.

But the highlight of the morning was clearly Ollie North. He defined terrorists
as those who "try to inflict a few casualties, kill a few people, and scare many
others." In contrast, North said, the U.S. Marine Corps "takes on the whole
enemy apparatus and tries to kill as many of the enemy as possible." North
also said that unlike terrorists, the Marines Corps exists to take land from the
enemy. "Really, we’re in the real-estate business," he joked.

North told his audience that he’s also an expert on terrorism, having mastered
the subject while working as Ronald Reagan’s point man between 1983 and
1986, when the administration sold missiles to Iranian terrorists in order to
raise money for Nicaraguan terrorists.

North didn’t mention any of that. Instead, he discussed his whereabouts on
the morning of Sept. 11. Flying from Detroit to Reagan National Airport in
Washington, D.C., at 8:45 a.m., he claimed, he was armed with two
weapons—a Swiss Army knife and a leather-working tool that "went right
through the metal detector."

North also claimed that he bribed an Afghan taxi driver to take him from
Dulles Airport in Virginia, where his plane was diverted, to Capitol Hill, where
North said he was urgently needed at Fox’s television studio. North said he
paid the cab driver $100 to drive him to Capitol Hill, even though that area of
the city was being evacuated. After taking the bribe, North said, the cab
driver told him, "Colonel North, we have to go after Osama."

North said he asked the cab driver how he knew bin Laden was behind the
terrorist attacks. "‘Because,’ he said to me, ‘I am from Afghanistan,’" North
stated. When Melodyland’s congregation began to emit cries of horror—"Oh,
no! Not from there!"—North quickly reassured them.

"This man was not a Muslim; he was a Christian," he intoned. North added
that the man was also a former CIA agent who had helped the U.S. drive the
Soviet Union out of Afghanistan in return for U.S. citizenship for his wife and
children. According to North, the man agreed to help the mujahideen, the
fundamentalist Muslim rebel army, because "he knew, back in the 1985 time
period, that the Taliban were going to be a problem and kill all the Christians
in Afghanistan and Pakistan."

The facts—that it was the Reagan administration-backed mujahideen that was
busy slaughtering Christians in Afghanistan "in the 1985 time period" (most of
them Soviet troops) and that the Taliban didn’t exist until what we might call
the 1996 time period—didn’t seem to bother North’s audience. They
peppered North’s entire speech with cries of "Hallelujah," "Bless the Lord,"
and "Go, Ollie!"

Finally, however, a young, conservatively dressed woman stood up and
interrupted North’s speech.

"Were you being a good Christian when you smuggled drugs into our country
and sold weapons to terrorists?" she asked.

North’s eyebrows fell; his voice followed. He politely offered to respond to
her question "a little bit later, if that’s okay with you."

Apparently to help facilitate that offer, a dozen church ushers and security
guards hastily escorted the woman out of the building.

Yvonne Belisle
November 19th, 2001, 06:24 PM
Thank you I forgot to check that one again but at least I didn't post it as fact! :) I posted a question I hate politics I only get involved because I hate what happens when people don't get involved so sometimes I don't think of looking at snopes for this stuff. I think in some ways it's probably good I posted it here because I can't be the only flake on the board.:)

November 19th, 2001, 07:10 PM
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You aren't a flake! :D

At least you didn't send out the email to every person you knew ;)


I have done that a few times...


November 21st, 2001, 01:21 PM
This is the latest in a seemingly endless stream of internet hoaxes. In his actual testimony North said it was Abu Nidal who had threatened him. This was in fact verified by Mr North himself a few days ago on the news.

November 21st, 2001, 01:36 PM
And then people wonder why I'm so critical of everything I read. :rolleyes:

No worries, von, I agree with Xois. You asked if it was real, not just sent it out to everyone you knew. Nothing wrong with that.