disturbing video from Fox Fri. Sept. 2

[Ben Gruagach]

Download the video here and help distribute. WARNING: It is VERY disturbing. But it is real, and to make it all the more compelling, it's from Fox's "Hannity & Colmes" show.

This was last night, almost 6 days after landfall, and the people in the Convention Center in New Orleans are locked in, in utter squalor, not allowed to travel out of New Orleans.

This is a DISASTER that is much bigger than it needs to be.

YouSendIt download (http://s24.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1QM3ZHVLTQCIQ2XX87H0QXBF9X)

You will need Quicktime installed on your computer to view this video.

It's horrifying, but you must see it to believe it.

[Gwenhwyfar]

Im speechless....I cant believe this is going on in the states. Those poor people, locked in there like bloody ciminals. Its sick.

[Exloration_La]

hm.. I would like to see it, but it's not working... windows media player seems the most reliable, quick is about second, and real player seems to be the worst format.

[Ben Gruagach]

hm.. I would like to see it, but it's not working... windows media player seems the most reliable, quick is about second, and real player seems to be the worst format.

The link goes to a QuickTime .mov file, not a RealMedia format.

[Agaliha]

I heard about that last night and I saw all the footage. It's sad and sick how things are being delt with.
I saw all those people at the convention center. They were all told to go there, that it was a safe place where they would be taken care of...and they aren't. They are starving and thirsty. They tell'em to go there then leave them!
Unbelievable.
America really really needs to learn form this so it never happens or is dealt with like this again.

[Cassie]

This is a DISASTER that is much bigger than it needs to be.



It's horrifying, but you must see it to believe it.

You are so right.
I just watched that. All the news coverage this week has been deeply disturbing.
I said in another thread, this is not about left or right wing politics, this is about criminal incompetence turning a natural disaster into an avoidable tradgedy.

[Xander67]

it is Saturday , 6 days after the storm, the convention center and the Dome are pretty much cleared out... FINALLY....

IT took the Military just under 24 hours to evacuate the convention center when they FINALLY were able to get in... This wont go forgotten... this is one story we will be hearing for a long time to come..

[Chibi-Fallon]

This whole thing has just been so awful...


They send Geraldo of all people! :collapse: When I think "serious reporter" hell, when I think "real member of the news media" he does not come to mind. Did that sort of throw anyone else?

[Xander67]

well, he may not have been my choice for the man in the convention center either, but he did a good job.

[Xander67]

lol, maybe they had a method behind the maddness for sending him in :eyebrow: :fpipesmoke:

[Ben Gruagach]

I have a hard time seeing Geraldo as a "serious reporter" after that stint doing a talk show too. But then he has worked as a reporter during military actions, where he's gone on site to do his job.

It is Fox though.

Maybe Geraldo pulled some strings so he could cover this story.

[Exloration_La]

The link goes to a QuickTime .mov file, not a RealMedia format.


Yes I know and the quick time video is not working for me. Dose anyone know where I might find the video?

[Willow Rosette]

I had heard about the people not being allowed to leave the dome and it makes me sick that we as americans would do such a dispicable thing as that. Has there been any reliable reason as to why? All I have heard is because they dont want them wandering the streets with all the nasty stuff in the water but hello??? Is one hell any worse than another?

I am so disapointed in my government that they could not step up to the plate the way they should. With that said I am very very proud to stand next to my fellow americans who have done their very best to donate what ever possible to help these people in need. For those I say Goddess Bless You!

[Ben Gruagach]

Here's a link to the video as a Windows Media video file (http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Hannity-Colmes-Smith-Rivera-freak-in-NO.wmv).

Maybe that will work better for some people.

[evie_mun]

I don't know what to say. I am in absolute shock that something like that could be happening in the U.S.

And there are people here blaming the people who stayed in New Orleans, saying it was their own fault that they didn't leave. There are people there who don't have cars! None of the public transportation was mobilized to move these people. There were no busses rounded up to get these people out of the city. They were told to leave, but not told HOW, and then left there to DIE.

I think this is the biggest political f**k-up that I will ever experience in my life. Nobody is telling these people where to go, what to do, and yet the president and the mayor of New Orleans are reporting these procedures have been "a great success." HOW?! How can they be so blind and so stupid to think that what they are doing is GOOD? There are people, our own American citizens, trapped in New Orleans DYING. We've mobilized as many emergency personnel in the U.S. as we can, but who are the people who are supposed to be at home handling a disaster like this when it comes about? The National Guard. Where are they? Fighting a fake war in Iraq.

God I hope Bush burns for this. He took the National Guard out of the U.S. where they were supposed to be and sent them to Iraq, leaving the nation completely open and vulnerable to just this kind of disaster. The National Guard are the men and women trained in evacuation procedures and mobilizing supplies in the event of a disaster such as this, and they aren't here, where they need to be, right now.

I'm trying to do all I can. I went to the local Red Cross organization and found one of the places where they were collecting money, and I just emptied my wallet. No idea how much cash was in there, and frankly didn't care. I just up-ended it into one of the bucket. I'm at home for the weekend, and going through my closet finding every scrap of clothing that doesn't fit or that I don't wear, and I'm boxing it up to bring it to where refugees are being housed here in Houston.

But where is the government in this? The fact that once rescued people are still dying is absolutely unacceptable. These are HUMAN BEINGS. These are AMERICAN CITIZENS who are being treated like animals, left to starve or die of dehydration, caged up in hoards, left to fight over food and water, left to die in their own fecal matter. This is absolutely unacceptable, and this is sickening. WHERE IS THE GOVERNMENT?

Why isn't more being done?

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[DixieWitch]

I wish the rest of the media, CNN, etc would show stuff like this. Maybe it would give someone the swift kick in the ass they obviously need to get thing moving quicker. Quit showing old footage from a few days ago...show us footage of the dying people, the dead people. As macabre as it sounds, maybe it's what's needed to get someone off their ass.

[Lewen]

What sickens me is seeing a picture a few days past of all those city school buses under water and RUINED!!! RUINED!!!!!

When they called for an evacuation, why didn't they line up school buses, tour buses, even fricking City buses and put people on them, ask for any donations they might have on hand (if gas is needed later) and then just keep on driving until you find a place that would take you?!?!?!?!? So many other things that could have been done....regardless of the cost, the cost of a human life is more precious. They ended up evacuating these people anyways to surrounding cities....there's a whole multi-layer of blame in this...from the NOT IN MY BACKYARD syndrome from surrounding city and states (They haggled about it before I remember reading and hearing in the news when the states got together to plan hurricane preparedness and evacuation once and two years ago the governor of Mississippi wouldn't open his roads to let the people of Louisiana and New Orleans out...that was under the Mark Morial administration).

To Blanco's slow response and the FEDs as well. Granted, had New Orleans had some resources instead of totally being 80% wiped out, we'd have a bit more faster response...that's when it's the surrounding cities and towns in Louisiana should have stepped in with Blanco's orders to get extra police/fire/rescue/food etc into there, before the FEDS stepped in.

There's many layers to this.....those are the ones that stand at the top of my head.
There's no excuse....none at all and I for one will make sure these people are heard and that there's an answer for this....perhaps if we all make noise there will be some justice for those that died. Their blood is on a bunch of people's hands at it stands.

[Ben Gruagach]

Even when different people and groups were trying to help, and were RIGHT THERE with help, they were turned away by the FEMA people.

Check out this account (http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/04/worst-abandonments) with examples the guy witnessed.

[VroomBroom]

I just saw that on the news....awful, just awful..........

[paygun]

There ought to be riots in the streets over how this mess was bungled.

I guess we'd all be shot or put in concentration camps and starved to death for it though.

[RhiannynWildseed]

I can't understand how they roadblocked the one road people could've walked down to get to a city with power. They were turning the people back and telling them they weren't allowed to leave. I am so glad they finally got evac-ed.

Yeah, Geraldo is a *bit* dramatic. Personally, I like Shepard better, but even he looked like he was getting ready to break down. He stayed up on that overpass with all those people and begged for someone to come get them out. I thought he was getting ready to collapse. I know people don't like him, but it seems like once Bill O'Reilly really starting getting on peoples' cases, things started getting done. I mean, one night he's talking to Shepard and Geraldo, the next day convoys of supplies are arriving and helicopters and stuff start evac-ing those very people they were with.

Coincidence? I don't know. I'm just glad it got done.

[Ben Gruagach]

I can't understand how they roadblocked the one road people could've walked down to get to a city with power. They were turning the people back and telling them they weren't allowed to leave. I am so glad they finally got evac-ed.

Yeah, Geraldo is a *bit* dramatic. Personally, I like Shepard better, but even he looked like he was getting ready to break down. He stayed up on that overpass with all those people and begged for someone to come get them out. I thought he was getting ready to collapse. I know people don't like him, but it seems like once Bill O'Reilly really starting getting on peoples' cases, things started getting done. I mean, one night he's talking to Shepard and Geraldo, the next day convoys of supplies are arriving and helicopters and stuff start evac-ing those very people they were with.

Coincidence? I don't know. I'm just glad it got done.

I don't know -- but in the video clip that I watched (linked in this thread a couple of times) one of the hosts (Hannity & Colmes -- I don't know which is which) who was talking to the two on-the-scene reporters seemed to be doing his best to spin it as not really as bad as the reporters were saying... he kept repeating that they had shown footage on Fox of supplies being brought to New Orleans, and didn't seem to want to hear that the stuff wasn't actually getting to the people who needed it as the reporters kept saying over and over again.

Getting the message out that they needed help in New Orleans, that things were not being done and people were still suffering and dying, was likely what helped. I don't think it's likely it mattered much who the host was for the particular news program. So unless we hear that a particular host (like O'Reilly -- who is definitely not afraid of self-promotion) did something specific to help I think it's a bit of a leap to assume that they must have worked some miracles behind the scenes.

[Exloration_La]

Just amazingly messed up! How can they tell people they can’t walk out of a city??? Since when is it illegal to walk out of a city? They where faced with armed guards! Shoots where fired to let people they were serious about them not being allowed to leave the city. If I where there I might have just left to see if they really would shoot me, because I’m pretty sure if that would have happened the authorities would be in SERIOUS trouble and some things would truly change after seeing the government follow through with something that horrendously sick.

I wish some people would have been stronger ESPECIALLY when the media was right there it could have been filmed right there if they did do anything, but would be less likely with the cameras there for all the world to reflect upon.