Some Bad News

[Zerofactor]

Ok, I'm not sure anybody remembers me, but about 2-3 years ago I made a post here about wanting to start myself in Wicca. So eventually I did, and then a year or so passed by. Without getting into too much detail, just to be blunt. I cursed myself, I did something I shouldn't have and it's my fault, but yea...

[Valerie]

Ooookay....

[Zerofactor]

So I shouldn't do anything to help myself? lol....this is bad, seriously, I don't think cursed is the correct term, maybe the whole three fold thing makes more sense, I dunno

[Zerofactor]

Maybe I posted this in the wrong forum?

[Rowan MoonDragon]

I guess my question is, what exactly are you wanting? I mean, your post is kinda vague.....are you wanting advice, or just to talk about curses or what? Sorry, hon, I'm just confused and trying to figure out what ya want.

[Lunacie]

If you want responses, it would help if you were a little more specific in your questions. Also it would help to know, at least in general, what you think caused the problem and in what way it has been hurting you.

[Zerofactor]

Ok well basically, about 5 months back, I was dating someone and I really started to like her. Then we stopped seeing each other after a short amount of time, then she dissapeared off the face of the eart. So, being selfish, I casted three spells to bring her back/make her want to be with me. I know this is wrong and I realize that now, but ever since I've done that, I feel/know I've been hit back with it, the only feelings I feel are anger, guilt and depression. Other than that I don't really have feelings anymore. What I'm trying to say is, I screwed up, and now I'm paying the consequences, and I have no idea what to do about it. Sorry...

[greenwitch]

you can't really do much about it... there is no 'undoing' a spell.... once you let something into the wind you can't take it back..... it just needs to run it's course...

[Zerofactor]

Hmm...well, oops, I guess. :/

[Rowan MoonDragon]

I'm not sure there is anything you can do about it except ride it out. I'm sorry but that's probably all you can do. You certainly cant undo what you've done...just be sure that you learn from the experience. I'm sorry. I know its not very comforting.

[Valkie]

some grounding and shielding might help with getting some control of your emotions again.. unfortunately, you do have to let it run it's course... karma has to repay and there is no way that you can stop that.

[aluokaloo]

I'm kinda confused here? How do you curse yourself?

[Teresa]

Like others have said You have to let it run its course.If you try to do something else to change that You will end up reaping more reprecussions Dear.Affecting another person's will has some dire reprecussions I am afraid.You can try grounding and shielding to help Yourself and looking thru the stone section there are some stones that will keep you grounded and help with feelings and emotions but as for casting a spell to fix those spells You casted,it is not a very wise thing to do.

[Greybird]

Note that once feelings get started in a human being, they tend to gather momentum. In other words even if you finish 'repaying' the universe, you sometimes still retain the effects. It makes it worthwhile - even vital to one's self - to end the symtpoms on your own. Anger, guilt, and depression can destroy you, quite literally, so I very highly recommend you look into some professional counselling to help you deal with those symptoms.

The universe won't forgive you - you need to accept that what is happening to you, forgive yourself for doing something stupid when you knew better, get help for the problems, learn from your mistake, and move on wiser and healthier.

[Calen]

Note that once feelings get started in a human being, they tend to gather momentum. In other words even if you finish 'repaying' the universe, you sometimes still retain the effects. It makes it worthwhile - even vital to one's self - to end the symtpoms on your own. Anger, guilt, and depression can destroy you, quite literally, so I very highly recommend you look into some professional counselling to help you deal with those symptoms.

Agreed. Even if you are convinced that what you are experiencing is a result of the spells you did, I would say the best thing to do is seek help in mundane ways. Try to get into counselling and start sorting yourself out.

[Valerie]

Ok well basically, about 5 months back, I was dating someone and I really started to like her. Then we stopped seeing each other after a short amount of time, then she dissapeared off the face of the eart. So, being selfish, I casted three spells to bring her back/make her want to be with me. I know this is wrong and I realize that now, but ever since I've done that, I feel/know I've been hit back with it, the only feelings I feel are anger, guilt and depression. Other than that I don't really have feelings anymore. What I'm trying to say is, I screwed up, and now I'm paying the consequences, and I have no idea what to do about it. Sorry...

I'm sorry, but this sounds like natural human emotion and remorse - not a "curse." That is your conscience telling you that actions have consequences, and you are feeling guilt over what you did. We often look for supernatural explanations to mundane issues, and it often turns out that the solutions are mundane as well.

My opinion, of course...

[CoolJ]

I'm sorry, but this sounds like natural human emotion and remorse - not a "curse." That is your conscience telling you that actions have consequences, and you are feeling guilt over what you did. We often look for supernatural explanations to mundane issues, and it often turns out that the solutions are mundane as well.

My opinion, of course...

your opinion is sexier than you are

[Astara Seague]

Live and learn that is what I always say!

[~Anamorata~]

I agree...once you send it out, it has to run it's course. You can't undo Karma.

[Rick]

I agree...once you send it out, it has to run it's course. You can't undo Karma.
Unless you don't believe in it & pay it no mind, then you didn't "do" karma in the first place to "undo".

[Flar's Freyja]

Unless you don't believe in it & pay it no mind, then you didn't "do" karma in the first place to "undo".

Absolutely. By believing you have 'cursed' or brought bad karma on yourself, you will continue to draw negativity toward you. We get what we think and believe.

Do sort things out with counseling or by using some other method of support. You can also do a spell or meditation to banish the behavior that got you into this mess and ask the divine to help you gain wisdom and develop spiritually.

Nothing is a failure if you've learned from it.

[cheddarsox]

Here is what I would do if I were you.

Go outside to an area where you will have some space around you. Take off shoes/socks and stand or sit on ground. Place palms in contact with the ground. Feel the ground supporting you. Feel the air around you, touching your skin. Feel the air enter and fill you with each breath. Feel the sunlight or starlight hitting your skin and the retinas of your eyes. Accept your complete connection and dependance upon everything in the universe. Sit there are feel it, really feel it until it is real to you.

When you are really feeling it, really in touch with it, allow yourself to feel your feelings about it. If you are moved to make sound, let it out. Allow yourself to react naturally to your total connection and dependance upon all of the universe.
You are plugged in.

Now, breathe the universe in and out of yourself. Feel it moving in and out of your pores. Feel the energy moving through you from ground to sky, and sky to ground. Throb with the pulse of it. Accept it.

Words like curse or blessing are terms we use to describe this connection, to compartmentalize a certain aspect of it and focus on it, but the connection is so much bigger and more pervasive. This excercise will help you jog yourself loose from your current focus and realign yourself with the bigger reality. This should help you get on with all the aspects of your being rather than staying hung up on mostly this.

You will have to ride it out. Everything has its' consequences, but our experience is really big, there is a great deal going on at once, and it is good to not have all our spiritual energy tied up in one basket, expecially when we have labeled that basket negative.

This experience is. It is real, you had a hand in creating it. you experience it, learn from it and move on. Your moving on will help all involved move on sooner as well. You don't need to run from it, protect yourself from it, nor hang onto it, just allow it to be what it is, nothing more, nothing less. It is not the defining moment of your existence, just one more experience for you and the others involved. You can choose to dwell in it as long as you need to gain what lessons it has to offer, and you can move on when you feel you have taken what you should.

cheddar

[Derwin]

I cursed myselfHow do you know you are cursed? What effects have you experienced?

[dark witch]

I'm sorry, but this sounds like natural human emotion and remorse - not a "curse." That is your conscience telling you that actions have consequences, and you are feeling guilt over what you did. We often look for supernatural explanations to mundane issues, and it often turns out that the solutions are mundane as well.

My opinion, of course...

You took the words right out of my mouth. Exactly.

I'm curious. If the spell had worked, how would you have felt?

Dark Witch

[Lunacie]

I agree with those who say you may be focusing too much on the guilt and self-anger. You made a mistake. We all make mistakes. We learn just as much from the mistakes as we do from the successes.

My suggestion would be to write a letter or note of apology to your former girlfriend. If you don't feel like sending it to her you can do a small ritual where you burn the letter, thereby releasing those energies to the universe to cleanse and change them. Keep the lesson but let go of the negative energies, eh?

And never cast a spell on the spur of the moment, those are usually based on emotion alone. You need to be sure mentally and spiritually as well as emotionally that you're casting the spell for the right reasons.

[LadyCelt]

I did a spell last summer but dind't know I was doin one, probably thought I was dreaming and it wasn't real (long story but new medication that affected me badly and I had severe insomnia and went manic) so yeah but stuff happened to me, I still think a bit now. But, I found God through it. Its kinda sad and yet beautiful I found him through fear and pain.

Whatever you find, sometimes you need pain to find the beauty. the main thing is you learn form the experience. if you keep doing it, then that is very bad. But, if you learn then that is what is truly important. I think it is karma and the coming back to you thing (I think 3 fold but I"m new to finding out about these things) but also some human emotion too.

But, if you messed with what I call natural law, the dao, the force so to speak, it will show you who's boss. I've been through it. I wished to see old friends agian, my intentions were good, but maybe it was messing with their freewill but I didn't even know it was a spell or know what the heck I was doing but had pictures aroudn me in a circle and I layed down and had a candle though not lit. I htnk I may have unknowingly made myself a human pentagram etc. My parents appeared as deons, I saw mice that weren't ther ein my basement, the grass looked brown to me though it was green, I felt like I was in a ship instead of my house in a way and felt haunted. I may have let out a demon too, and I still feel something exists in that room espeically.


I don't see myself doing any spells again, espeically without knowin what I am doing. I have htought of doing a cleansing bath and cleansing the roo but since someone said sage smells like weed that could be bad cause I used to smoke pot and my Dad might be concerned and my parents don't believe in spirituality so I'd probably go back to the psych ward, I went thorugh 2 psych wards after etc. I know about the stuff comin back.


But, let it run its course, don't try to fix it yourself, best thing is prayer for me at least.

[Derwin]

I casted three spells to bring her back/make her want to be with me. Did these spells work? You should post these spells. I'd like to see them.

[Valerie]

your opinion is sexier than you are

:yayah: :yayah:

[Djinn]

I would suggest finding a counselor or therapist to help you deal with all the negative feelings you're talking about. You could have bad karma, sure, if you believe in karma. There's nothing you can do about that. But it sounds to me like you are depressed, and finding someone to help you through it is the best way to uncross yourself.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar....

[ShamanFeather]

Ok well basically, about 5 months back, I was dating someone and I really started to like her. Then we stopped seeing each other after a short amount of time, then she dissapeared off the face of the eart. So, being selfish, I casted three spells to bring her back/make her want to be with me. I know this is wrong and I realize that now, but ever since I've done that, I feel/know I've been hit back with it, the only feelings I feel are anger, guilt and depression. Other than that I don't really have feelings anymore. What I'm trying to say is, I screwed up, and now I'm paying the consequences, and I have no idea what to do about it. Sorry...

Hmm, do you wish to undo it because of what is happening to you now and your bad feelings? Or has the bad feelings taught you it isn't good to mess with other people's lives for your own gain b/c it may cause them to experience things they may not want to experiece and feel things they don't want to?

Start there, if you can resolve that question with yourself its a start.

As of yet reserving comments about if there is or isnt' something you can do about it.