Sunk To A New Low...

[Lilith Morgaine]

Even through all the crap I've been through, I always have had *something* to eat.... even if it's just Ramen Noodles..........

My cabinet and fridge are completely bare except for ketchup and water..........

Today I let go of my pride and ate a part of a bagel out of the garbage @ school..........................:ack:
I guess that's what I'll have to do for now. The soup kitchen and food bank are too far to drive because of gas, my failing brakes, and failing transmission.................................

[Brenda]

Aww hunny, can't you ask any of your friends for help? :hugz:

[Morwyn]

Aww sweetheart , I'm so sorry to hear your going through such a difficult time :( I just lost my job myself and had to swallow my pride and move back in with my mother...im still moving things out. By any chance are you eligible for Social Security , Welfare Assistance and foodstamps? Do you have any friends and family to turn to?

[Teresa]

Even through all the crap I've been through, I always have had *something* to eat.... even if it's just Ramen Noodles..........

My cabinet and fridge are completely bare except for ketchup and water..........

Today I let go of my pride and ate a part of a bagel out of the garbage @ school..........................:ack:
I guess that's what I'll have to do for now. The soup kitchen and food bank are too far to drive because of gas, my failing brakes, and failing transmission.................................
Could ya ride the bus to get there? Ask someone for a ride to get to the food bank maybe?:hugz: sending you some energies!

[Cassie]

Here is a little bit of "turning things around" energy my friend. :hugz: Please take the advice offered above. Don't be afraid to beg or borrow. Speak to someone at school. Do whatever it takes; but please get food inside you!

[Chibi-Fallon]

Are you living on campus? If not it might be time to ditch the net and the nice phone package you seem to have...

[yavanna]

I'll be thinking about you when sending energy. I hope things get better, please lmk if there is anything I can do to help.

Hugs and good wishes
Yavanna

[Lilith Morgaine]

Could ya ride the bus to get there? Ask someone for a ride to get to the food bank maybe?:hugz: sending you some energies!

No bus... and I have no friends.... literally....


Aww sweetheart , I'm so sorry to hear your going through such a difficult time :( I just lost my job myself and had to swallow my pride and move back in with my mother...im still moving things out. By any chance are you eligible for Social Security , Welfare Assistance and foodstamps? Do you have any friends and family to turn to?

I'm on SSI and since I have a car @ all I can't get foodstamps.... I'm aware of these things as my mother had me grow up "in the system"


Aww hunny, can't you ask any of your friends for help? :hugz:

It was always my friends asking me for $... one of my friends owes me $28 but says she doesn't have it.


Are you living on campus? If not it might be time to ditch the net and the nice phone package you seem to have...

I use the school system. Do you think I'm that stupid?


Here is a little bit of "turning things around" energy my friend. :hugz: Please take the advice offered above. Don't be afraid to beg or borrow. Speak to someone at school. Do whatever it takes; but please get food inside you!

I'm not one to give up, but I know all the resourses and have talked to people @ school....... If I can "get by" til Oct 3........ sigh.... Yes I even went to Mol and Semele...... never heard back:ugh: <-----(I worded this incorrectly and am VERY sorry. I would never say anything bad about Mol or Semele. What I meant was I hadn't heard on a final decision <at the time I posted>. Again I am truly sorry if I hurt anyone) :sadeyes:

[~Anamorata~]

Awww sweetie! isn't there anyone you could ask for help? Sending massive amounts of energy and hugs to you!

[Pagan Mantis]

I don't know where you are at, but keep ya head up. This too shall pass, believe me. If you're in school, it's hard, I know, and ramen noodles and easy mac were my best friend for a really long time. If the ramen get super boring, try different things with them, as there are A LOT of different ways of going about making them. If you can't afford certain things, look for cans! That's another thing we did in school, only we were looking for money to buy alcohol, so please don't buy alcohol if you can't eat. All I may do is send you tons of love, hugs, and energy for your troubles. I'm really sorry to hear all of this, but stay strong, you can do it!

[Shanti]

I so know what your going through. SSI is a joke. Its totally unlivable to say the least!!

I know too that programs to help either suck, like you said, you have a car so no food stamps!! Or, they're gone!! So many programs have been taken away its terrible.

Hold your head up and do what you can. Rememeber your not alone!! A lot of people are on SSI and suffer the same fate!
Being on disability myself, I often feel the world just wants us to disappear because we are such burdens. But I am not disappearing and neither are you. We will do what it takes to be in their face till we have something we can live on!!

Heck federal SSI payments are like 584 per month and the state is free to give what they want to the checks..my state is cheap, only 94 dollars do they add! So my in my state you get a max of 678 per month!! What a joke. We dont have crap for rent assistance and food stamps, my friend gets like 60 something per month!! The cost at the store have gone through the roof!! And whats even worse..rents and co-pay for health care. You dont get enough to live on and yet you have to co-pay for health care when thats what you need cause your disabled!!
And hey forget about the laws reguarding companies not discriminating because or disability. One, they do, they just say your not qualified or someone is more quilified and when it comes to schooling to get new skills, well hey they took that out of the budget too!!

Oh my I went ranty!

Sorry hon...I think you know, I know how you feel.

Hang in there. Someday, hopefully we will all find away to make it better. ~hugs~

[Lilith Morgaine]

Heck federal SSI payments are like 584 per month and the state is free to give what they want to the checks..my state is cheap, only 94 dollars do they add! So my in my state you get a max of 678 per month!!


I know.... between my 2 ssi payments I get a total of 590........ I wish I had the extra $80 a month.... where do you live? :whatgives

[Chibi-Fallon]

I use the school system. Do you think I'm that stupid?

It's been known to happen. :whatgives
For some reason I assumed you were living off campus which if you have phone service like that, you must not be... And in that case can't you just steal stuff from the communal kitchen?

[Shanti]

I know.... between my 2 ssi payments I get a total of 590........ I wish I had the extra $80 a month.... where do you live? :whatgives
You wouldnt want to live here!!
In south central Wisconsin, Evansville, the average one bedroom rent is 450 bucks a month. Whats funny is our so called low income housing starts at 400 per month!! Low income housing my butt!! The poor here cant afford low income housing!! I dont even see how they can call it low income housing! And rent assistance here, only if you have small children and they give very little toward your rent. Single disabled cant get anything! Our heat assistance...you have to get to Beloit city, 50 miles away!! No public transit here so if you cant afford or find away to go there, you cant apply!! Doesnt matter how sick you are either! Plus they only help with one utility either heat or electric. So for someone like me where the heat is 113 and the electric is 100 per month you are still stuck with not enough help. Plus our energy assistance only pays a part of your one type of energy.
Our cost of living is crazy as hell!!
I have friends that work and still are broke as hell with our cost of living here. No you dont want to be here!

[SilverClaw]

:hugz: I know what it is like to be in such a situation where there is no food in the house, and that is why I asked for help earlier this year through the HAM. And Lilith just becuase you have not heard from Mol or Semele yet does not mean they will not answer they are busy people as I am sure you know. Keep strong and if you need anything pm me ok ?

[arctic splash]

Can you ask someone for help? Let them know you need something to eat and have no money... I find people to be generally very hospitable and I'm sure someone will help you out. It's better than eating bagels out of the garbage... :hugz:

If I were in your situation I'd walk around and gather wild foods... there's tons of good edible stuff around, free for the taking, but if you don't know what's good, stick with easy stuff like dandelion. Lots of wild grapes this time of year too. I've been doing a lot of that lately for fun, and if you don't have anything else to eat, it's a good thing to know. And definitely better than a bagel someone threw out!

[PropheticMonkey]

I feel like a jerk...i always complain that i live in a snobbish town and its when i hear things like these that i feel like a complete asshole.

If you have ANY family members call them and ask them for money. If they are any sort of family they will give it to you without question. Everyone has to eat!

Call your friends out on what you loaned them. You said that one of them owed you $28! Any food is good food regardless of price, you have to collect from them. There cant be a more desperate time than when you have no food.

Other than that, just keep your head high and tighten your belt, and try to live through these lean times. I feel like a jerk for all that ive been given...i hope this helps

May Anu bless you with lots and lots of food!

[QUEEN OF THE DAMNED]

:hugz: I know what it is like to be in such a situation where there is no food in the house, and that is why I asked for help earlier this year through the HAM. And Lilith just becuase you have not heard from Mol or Semele yet does not mean they will not answer they are busy people as I am sure you know. Keep strong and if you need anything pm me ok ?

I agree about Mol and Semele. Things aren't the best for them anyway are they? They would never just cast you aside Lil, as Hymnia said they are probably busy and getting around to it.

:hearthear Lil, I am so sorry that you are going through this still. I really wish I could help you with this stuff, but I really cant right now. Things are real tough at my end of the world too unfortunately.

I think there are some good suggestions here. I see how a lot of them are not probable for you. I cant believe the way your social security system works over there, cause you have a car you cant get foodstamps, that is freaking ridiculous!!! Bastards.

I know this is not going to be a very welcome suggestion, but when people are in your circumstances over here in Oz, they have been known to turn to their local church where they will be given food stamps without too much hassle. Ahhhh, I can feel the evil eyes upon me, but you must eat my darling, anything is worht a try aye? :hrmm: But as I say, things seem to work very differently over there in the states, maybe that wont work for you.

There must be some kind of group that will help you with this.....a charity of some kind, do you have St Vincent De Pauls or the Salvation Army over there? An organisation like that would at least give you food stamps...or at least they will in my country.

I am so angry with the USA social security system!!! :G

I am so sorry for you honey. Things will work out darling. :rubhead: :bothsides

Do you have a counsellor at school that you can talk to? Maybe they can help in some way? Or a teacher?

How's your Mum BTW?

[SilverClaw]

stick with easy stuff like dandelion
moonstone_dreams, I do not know about anyone else but if your going to suggest something like that it would be a good idea to make sure you mention what parts are ok to eat and which are not. Imo.

[CirceAdonia]

Hi,


Do you have a paypal account? if so let me know and I will send you a few dollars. I don't have alot of money myself but I definately will give you a few $ if you have a paypal account....so sorry sweetie...

Oh I just thought of something...its not great or anything but at the end of the night mcdonalds ( I am sure other fast food restaurants do too)gets rid of the food thats been sitting a while all in one bag...they usually leave it out for the homeless to get to it....atleast in my area they do...We have had to go there quiet a bit...granted its not the best but its something.

Good luck to you. hugs

[SilverClaw]

QD even if there is St Vincent De Pauls or the Salvation Army they all have their guidleines as well to follow and if you do not meet thier criteria for food hampers or what have you they will not be able to help much at least that has been my experince with both organizations in the past. As well as I know it has been for others.

And ya Lilith if you do have a paypal account let us know ok?

[wooleybob]

I so know what your going through. SSI is a joke. Its totally unlivable to say the least!!

I know too that programs to help either suck, like you said, you have a car so no food stamps!! Or, they're gone!! So many programs have been taken away its terrible.

Hold your head up and do what you can. Rememeber your not alone!! A lot of people are on SSI and suffer the same fate!
Being on disability myself, I often feel the world just wants us to disappear because we are such burdens. But I am not disappearing and neither are you. We will do what it takes to be in their face till we have something we can live on!!

Heck federal SSI payments are like 584 per month and the state is free to give what they want to the checks..my state is cheap, only 94 dollars do they add! So my in my state you get a max of 678 per month!! What a joke. We dont have crap for rent assistance and food stamps, my friend gets like 60 something per month!! The cost at the store have gone through the roof!! And whats even worse..rents and co-pay for health care. You dont get enough to live on and yet you have to co-pay for health care when thats what you need cause your disabled!!
And hey forget about the laws reguarding companies not discriminating because or disability. One, they do, they just say your not qualified or someone is more quilified and when it comes to schooling to get new skills, well hey they took that out of the budget too!!

Oh my I went ranty!

Sorry hon...I think you know, I know how you feel.

Hang in there. Someday, hopefully we will all find away to make it better. ~hugs~
WOW.!!!..You get that much in SSI?..I get only 606.40 amonth,plus tapping into my SS for 316.00,and for my 2 kids get assitance and that puts us at 1,800 amonth..Plus get 278.00 in foodstamps for the kids..Rent in Pa here is cheap in places..The low income house program goes by your income..Hell some people pay 2-4 bucks amonth for rent there.i'm able to get in the program,due to my back surgery,but there are worse off people than I,and they need it more than me..I only pay 350.00 for rent of half house and thats cheap..my bills are based on income,gas is 41.00 no matter how much I use,electric is 30.00 an the same.phone with dsl is 73.00..I really feel for you Lil.Its getting bad everywhere.More people in this town I live abuse everything,and it affects the more needy people..I wish there was something I could do for you.Keep your head high hon,nobody thinks any less of you,and the one who do the hell with them,someday they mite be in need and understand how it feels...Hugssss to you,Its not much,but a hug helps ease things a bit..i'm so sorry for you,because you been through hell.i'm here if you need me,along with the rest of the family here on MW..

[Shanti]

moonstone_dreams, I do not know about anyone else but if your going to suggest something like that it would be a good idea to make sure you mention what parts are ok to eat and which are not. Imo.
Off topic for a sec,
All parts of the dandelion are edible!
I am not aware of any part of a dandelion being toxic!
Roots can be fried or boiled and the leaves and flowers stir fried or raw!! Or what ever you want to try.

In my opinion though...dandelion takes getting used to. It taste nasty no matter when you harvest it or how you prepare it. The root is real nasty! The leaves less so and the flowers are just yuk! Its either less bitter or more bitter but no matter what....Its one bitter plant! :ack:
But thats my opinion! :)

[Chibi-Fallon]

About the dandelions, make sure they haven't been sprayed with something.

[arctic splash]

Yeah, wash it well. And as for dandelion the flowers and leaves are good. I've seen recipes for the stems, but you might want to cook them first because I don't know if it's alright raw.

And something I didn't think about -- acorns. They're all over the place. They have a really bitter taste if you don't boil them, so I would suggest that!

[arctic splash]

moonstone_dreams, I do not know about anyone else but if your going to suggest something like that it would be a good idea to make sure you mention what parts are ok to eat and which are not. Imo.

True. You can eat tomatoes but not the leaves! I feel okay about mentioning dandelions because the whole plant is edible... and I didn't have time to post any more... but in general, yes, eat only what you know is safe, and even then, sample it first to make sure it sits well with you!

[CzechWoods]

i know daisies taste like carrots, but am not sur about their nutritional value

[Lewen]

:hugz: I know how you feel. I have $16 to last me for two weeks and five mouths to feed and no foodstamps until the 4th. It's going to be ramon noodle fest around here.
Hang in there...it's not forever and it will pass. It does get better, sometimes we just don't see it. I'm lucky I have a WIC appt. this friday and we'll be ok. It really does get better.
:hugz:

[Lilith Morgaine]

QD even if there is St Vincent De Pauls or the Salvation Army they all have their guidleines as well to follow and if you do not meet thier criteria for food hampers or what have you they will not be able to help much at least that has been my experince with both organizations in the past. As well as I know it has been for others.

And ya Lilith if you do have a paypal account let us know ok?

Dearheart....
You totally get it.......

Guys... I'm usually very resourceful and find my way, but as I appriciate all these wonderful suggestions, I've tried and/or considered all of them....

My mom won't give me anything.... I have no friends...... it's just me... only me as it's always been from birth......

I grew up on welfare/medicaid.... I know all the ins and outs.....
The above reasons are why I feel so hopeless........ When plan A fails and plans B - Z are exhaused...... well we only have 26 letters in the alphabet....

[Cassie]

Sorry Lilith, I don't really understand the American SS system and I'm a bit shocked (to say the least!) that you could be in this situation. This may also sound naive; but are there no other institutions (private or public) within the education system that could help in some way? Especially since you are so close to the end of your studies..
Sorry I don't have paypal, but in hoping that someone who comes after me may be able to contribute anything financially to the completion of your education over the next few months I will repeat your account address;

[HeavensHope]

I cant do much, but if you still need help I can send you food, I have tons of noodles...it's not the cup kind you get at typical grocery stores. It's the asian kind that comes in a package and seems to last a very, very, very long time. You gotta add water and heat it up in bowl like ramens though. My parents bought a whole box for me when i moved out, I've only managed to go through 3 packages. Just give me a PM, I have other stuff too. :) I dont have paypal but I can send you a few bucks by mail. I'm a college student, on my own and still jobless but I'm feeling lucky, the CVS pharmacy district manager called me back (I missed her, but she left a message and I know they're hiring somewhere). College students have to stick together, it's hard enough with school, you shouldnt have to worry about food too. You cant think on an empty stomach.

[SilverClaw]

Off topic for a sec,
All parts of the dandelion are edible!
I am not aware of any part of a dandelion being toxic!
Roots can be fried or boiled and the leaves and flowers stir fried or raw!! Or what ever you want to try.

Well certain books I have read say that there are... hmmm interesting...


:hugz: Lilith and thanks.

[BlackMagicalCat]

Bless your heart,Id let ya raid my cabinets and fridge ,but You live so far away.

Hey,why not ask a church?Call them up and tell them you are not a christian,but need a little food.

Ask them if they could send you a little,Ill bet they will help.I would.

Well,Ill sure pray that God will send food your way,and send direction,and blessings,and help,and favor,and I know he will hear,because I know he loves you,and he knows your name,your real one,and your witch one.

Here is a picture to make you smile,I dont remember where I got it.

[BlackMagicalCat]

I would try a charasmatic,modern type church by the way,Like an assembly of God,harvest fellowship,
A church that has a lot of worship and praise,and doesnt care how ya dress.Call the pastor and talk to him or her.

[CirceAdonia]

Dearheart....
You totally get it.......

Guys... I'm usually very resourceful and find my way, but as I appriciate all these wonderful suggestions, I've tried and/or considered all of them....

My mom won't give me anything.... I have no friends...... it's just me... only me as it's always been from birth......

I grew up on welfare/medicaid.... I know all the ins and outs.....
The above reasons are why I feel so hopeless........ When plan A fails and plans B - Z are exhaused...... well we only have 26 letters in the alphabet....

My paypal acct since you asked is

Sweetie,

I sent you sum chump change as its all I can spare at this time...
I do have food here I can send ya if you give me your physical address I can send you a package of some canned goods or something.
If you would like... if you feel uncomfortable with that I totally understand. I am sending you lots of positive energy...

I would knock on peoples door and offer to do yard work for food or something... at this stage in life sweetie there is no such thing as pride you have to do what you can. just be really careful and try to knock on
doors that would be of elderly or families...sometimes its hard to tell who you can trust.... you know?

Please keep me posted. Hope and Help is on the way...

[Earthy]

Oh Lilith, i'm sorry things have got so bad.
i really wish i had some spare money, i would send it to you in a flash :hugz:

[trippingdaisy]

:hugz: to you, darling. Sent what I could. Hope everything starts getting better real soon. xxx

[elfmage]

(hugs)

[random hugs]

hey...Im so sorry to hear about what is happening...but take advice gievn, you have to keep your head up and be strong...and im finding it hard to believe a nice person like you has no friends...stay strong hun!

[Xentor]

My paypal acct since you asked is ...

Be advised that this is a public board. Not only can every member see that address, so can spambots.

[Xentor]

Yes I even went to Mol and Semele...... never heard back:ugh:

You did hear back. You heard that we were discussing your situation and would get back to you. However, you decided to create this thread before we had time to get back to you.

[Lilith Morgaine]

Be advised that this is a public board. Not only can every member see that address, so can spambots.
Thank you

[Lilith Morgaine]

the only intention I had for this thread was emotional support..... it's what MWers do best..... I'm sorry if anyone took it any other way...............

[mol]

I am trying to figure something out, Lillith.

[mol]

The paypal address has been removed. That totally violates our policy of solicitation, Lillith...I'm sorry.

The HaM Was set up to help people during catastrophic events such as death, etc. When GR had her troubles I went against everything I had set up and sent out a request for donations. We didn't get that much and if we keep sending out donation requests the amount gets smaller and smaller until eventually no one is donating anymore. I realize I sound like a big jerk. I took that responsibility when we started the HaM program...I knew that at some point I was going to be looked upon as an asshole and I accept that.

The point is, the HaM is getting drier and drier. You need help, Lillith...but so does the HaM program. So, maybe we can do both. We need to restructure the HaM program in a big way. We have too many members all across the world for this to be just a donate-a-dollar-to-paypal type program. We could be helping people get food through real food drives. We could help with clothing...BABY CLOTHES?! Can you imagine?

The big problem is...I can't do it. I spend most of my MW work time answering emails, pm's working on the server, and trying to keep up with whats going on. With family, school, and everything else...I just don't have the time to do it. I also think it is going to take more than just 1 person to do it. So, I need some help. If anyone is interest in helping, please send me an email and lets talk. I know I can put some people together that can make this work.

Now, as for you, Lillith...I will open the HaM up...one last time until we restructure. After this we are going to close it down until we can figure out where to go next. We can do MORE for more people...I know it. I just don't know how. I am a computer geek. :hugz:

I am sorry it has taken so long, Lillith...but I was trying to figure out what to do.

[Mithrea]

FWIW mol, I don't think anyone thinks you are an asshole. You are one of the most honest, caring people I know.

I know there must be members of MW who have experience with this kind of stuff. I hope they will come forward. Unfortunately, all I can donate is grunt work, as I too, have no expertise.

LM, maybe you can fill us in on some of the things you have tried, but that haven't worked so that we can get a reference point.

[Lilith Morgaine]

I am trying to figure something out, Lillith.

And I apprieciate everything..... I'm not upset with you or anyone else on MW........ this is the only place I have......
and I'm sorry for the paypal thing.... I wasn't thinking... just responding to 2 requests in the thread......

[LittlePerson]

Lillith, after watching the first 30days show a long while back I realized that there really are some very very caring churches out there who will help provide you with necessities. Don't be afraid to ask if you want to because I think Az had a nice idea. I know of some who do all sorts of things for people. They can even deliver the things to you too. I worked with someone whose church paid for a used car for her because hers broke down. Or try calling all your local grocery stores and see if they have food that they are going to get rid of because they can't keep it on the shelves because of the expiration date or even if they've been doing food drives and could spare you some. I'm sure if you gave proof of your ssi they'd help.

Also, try calling the Salvation Army and telling them about your situation, I'm wondering if they can help you.

As others have said, you could ask if people need things done like dog walking, house sitting, baby sitting, mowing lawns, delivering things for them. I'd find a teacher I trusted and ask him or her if they have things like that some odd jobs you could do for a little money for food. You'd be surprised at how some teachers would help, especially university teachers who make more money than just highschool or elementary teachers do.

I'm sorry that you aren't getting the help you need. I really hope it gets better for you.
Blessings to you.

[CirceAdonia]

MOL http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_17_209.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNfox000) You are in no way shape or form an Ass.
You are the bomb!!!

I started the whole paypal thing so I apologize. I was trying to help. I would be happy to donate what I can. While I am not working and we are struggling...I will still be happy to fork over something here and there... Is that what the subscriptions are for?
I will check around and see what I can do.

Also I am gonna pm you I have an Idea that might help.

LOL I dunno just trying to help.

Please accept my apology for bringing it up.

[Mithrea]

Subscriptions go to pay for the upkeep of the site, which is considerable on a site of this size.

No need to apologize, dear and everyone at MW welcomes the help :)


MOL http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_17_209.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNfox000) You are in no way shape or form an Ass.
You are the bomb!!!

I started the whole paypal thing so I apologize. I was trying to help. I would be happy to donate what I can. While I am not working and we are struggling...I will still be happy to fork over something here and there... Is that what the subscriptions are for?
I will check around and see what I can do.

Also I am gonna pm you I have an Idea that might help.

LOL I dunno just trying to help.

Please accept my apology for bringing it up.

[CirceAdonia]

Cool beans I am glad that I can give back.

I love this forum and if I can help even if it's not much I will...

I am waiting to see what happens about this job prospect and hopefully I can actually make a sale on my site....once one of these happens I will have more to offer MW.

Thanks!

[Æon Flux]

:hugz: I dunno what to say really. :hugz: If I could help I would. One word about anything I can do and i'll try my very best.

[Lilith Morgaine]

I dunno how much longer I can do this...........

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[semi]

Lilith, is there a grocery co-op nearby? If so, these places usually take on volunteers to put in a couple hours here and there. And there is usually free food there due to produce that isn't quite presentable or items that have recently expired, but are still 100% good. I was one of the managers of a co-op for a year. I often left with bagfulls of free food, so much that I'd give away a lot of it to friends and homeless folks. Some of these stores, like most regular grocery stores, give the excess to organizations that feed people, but some skip that process and give it to whoever is there in the store to take it. It's worth a try. Good luck.

[Willow Rosette]

Mol several months back I was talking with someone, I dont rememebr now who, nut there was an idea to help by paying a doller or whatever. We have so many people here who can make banners for people what if every time someone requested one they donated to the HaM program? I would do it and im sure every one else would as well. Just an idea. Lilith Im so sorry things arent looking up for you. I have lit a candel and will send energy out to you.

[QUEEN OF THE DAMNED]

I haven't had time to read the new posts here, but I was thinking, is there any way that you can work part time or something in the cafeteria? If there is a cafeteria. Then maybe you could get food as a bonus and get a little cash? I've been thinking of you lots Lil and trying to come up with any ideas. Will check back when I have some more.

:hugz: love you darling! :hugz:

[LadyCelt]

look charities that help. I can't think of the one I know of but its Catholic. It helps mostly when people are homelss, I wish I remembered the darn name. Any friends or family you could stay with?

[CzechWoods]

lady celt, do you mean the Caritas ?

[LadyCelt]

I meant charities sorry :)

[Lilith Morgaine]

*HUGS* to you all for your support....

*stomach growls obnoxiously*

[semi]

LadyCelt, I'll bet you're thinking of a group called Catholic Charities. They help a lot of people regardless of the person's religion. They once helped a friend of mine buy a house and she's quite openly pagan. Good group, so far as I know.

[Londubh]

If you are in school, go talk to a student counselor. There are probably resources set up on your campus, if not, they can probably direct you to someone. Or try a womens shelter, or a church, any church. Try a Catholic church first, a lot of them have food programs, or even try a Mormon church. I am not LDS but live in Utah and have heard of a thing the Mormons do called 'Church Welfare'. They have storehouses of food. It's worth a shot. In fact, since you are going to school, ask some of the campus religous groups if they know where you could get some help. I bet they would be glad to give you advice, and a ride if need be.

[xstarE_nitex]

tons of energy sent to help, and im off to think of anything to help...

[Marcasite]

I agree you should check on your campus.
At my university we have a program where students can anonymously request food pakages and are given a key to a locker with food in it. Maybe your campus has something similar?

[Lilith Morgaine]

I go to a VERY small community clollege that doesn't have much of anything......

BUT I've lost 14 lbs!

[SilverClaw]

:hugz: Lilith

[Yvonne Belisle]

It is odd that the state you are in disqualifies you if you have a car. I know in California, Utah and Pennsylvania you can have one car but it can't be worth a lot of money. I would call the churches in the area. They may be able to help you even without being a member.

[Leander]

[QUOTE=azzeenasman]Bless your heart,Id let ya raid my cabinets and fridge ,but You live so far away.

Hey,why not ask a church?Call them up and tell them you are not a christian,but need a little food.

Ask them if they could send you a little,Ill bet they will help. I would. [QUOTE]

That's a good idea: it's Harvest Festival (in Europe at least) on Sunday, and over here every church in the country gives out free food.

Failing that, buy bread - lots of bread. It's the cheapest way to buy bulk, energy giving food, and while not particularly good for you or nice, it will keep you alive and reasonably full.

Baked beans and other tinned foods are a good idea too. I know they're often horrid - I lived on them for a while, but they'll get you by.

[BrigidMoon]

_pounce_

Hey hon. I'm sorry to hear this is going so far. This should not be happening. I know you seem to think you've exhausted your resources but there must be something that can be done. Have you tried calling the food shelf to see if they could possibly deliver to you? I'm just wondering if that is a possibility.

[instinct]

:hugz: for Lilith.
Praying for you hon

[Eventide]

I remember you Lilith. You were the first to be so very kind to me on this site. It was the smallest gesture but came at a time in my life where I needed it. I wish I had money, I wish I could give you the support that you need. There are so many good suggestions here I hope that it helps. My thoughts are with you, don't give up!

[Romeo162004]

hello hunny if you need money i can prolbey help you by sending you some! if you can e-mial me (Romeo162004@hotmail.com) with your address i would be more then willing to help you out!! thanks soo much! i hope things get better!!!

[Rayzer]

Poor Amanda. Why don't you come live with me? No You wouldn't do that. However if you give me your addy I'll try and send you a care package. _pounce_ _pounce_ _pounce_ _pounce_ _pounce_ _pounce_ _pounce_ :hugz: :hugz: :hugz: :hugz: :hugz: :hugz: :hugz: :hugz: :hugz: :hugz: :hugz: :hugz:

[GryphonGirl]

Lil....I did what I could. I do hope it gets LOTS better for you real soon. Take care. :hugz:

[BrigidMoon]

hello hunny if you need money i can prolbey help you by sending you some! if you can e-mial me (Romeo162004@hotmail.com) with your address i would be more then willing to help you out!! thanks soo much! i hope things get better!!!

You're a sweetheart!

I'd PM her that message!

:smoochypo

[argento_occhi]

Lilith, I'm at a loss for words. I hate that you're going through this. You'll never walk alone, love, not while you've got us here at MW. :hugz: If I could help in any way, I would. I'll be keeping you in my prayers. A system designed to help you shouldn't let you starve.

Argent

[Philosophia]

I don't know what its like to be going through this...but I do know what its like to be on welfare. I'm thankful that I do have a roof over my head (because I still live at home with my parents) because my payments from Austudy wouldn't even cover living costs (and I don't have a license or car, which I am going to fix soon but I'm worried about petrol costs and stuff). Where I come from, we have that sort of problem with the Salvation Army and Vinnie's. They tend to be more community orientated here.
Anyway, :hugz: I don't think there is a lot I can do but I'll light a candle and give a ritual for you. Maybe I can send some non-degradable food to you, but somehow I don't think Australian post will let me. Money is scarce here and the changing rate is high so I don't know if I can send anything. But I will send a lot of energy and prayers.

[moonshadow24]

I am SO sorry sweetie. I would like to help you. You will also be in my prayers.

~Goddess Bless~
Michelle






Even through all the crap I've been through, I always have had *something* to eat.... even if it's just Ramen Noodles..........

My cabinet and fridge are completely bare except for ketchup and water..........

Today I let go of my pride and ate a part of a bagel out of the garbage @ school..........................:ack:
I guess that's what I'll have to do for now. The soup kitchen and food bank are too far to drive because of gas, my failing brakes, and failing transmission.................................

[JemimaPuddleDuckie]

hey people,
how is everyone? i am okay i have a horrible cold, dang nabbitt, im all ill and stuffed up, but at least i have a food, warth, water and shelter so i am trying to stay positive and not moan so much cause my life is nt half as bad as some people.xxx[FONT=Palatino Linotype][B]
bye :santasmil :tarotwitc :braindrai

[SilverClaw]

:hugz: Lilith thinking of you, hope yor hanging in there :hugz:

[whitesprite]

AWWW I FEEL SO SORRY FOR YOU AND LIKE ALL OF THE OTHERS IM SENDING MY ENERGY AND I HOPE THAT YOU GET THROUGH THIS SOON


lIVE AND LEL LIVE
BLESSED BE

[Atena]

Even through all the crap I've been through, I always have had *something* to eat.... even if it's just Ramen Noodles..........

My cabinet and fridge are completely bare except for ketchup and water..........

Today I let go of my pride and ate a part of a bagel out of the garbage @ school..........................:ack:
I guess that's what I'll have to do for now. The soup kitchen and food bank are too far to drive because of gas, my failing brakes, and failing transmission.................................

Sorry to hear your toubles.

I hope things get better soon. There must be a job around the corner.

I think that reading a little about prosperity and energy work may help you a little, maybe not emmediatly, but in the long run.

Here is a good place to start: http://randygage.com/products/prosperityseries.html (http://randygage.com/products/prosperityseries.html)

[stella01904]

MM ~ Been there, done that, got the t-shirt, wore it well, wore it out, went back and got another one. And I work. They just don't pay us a living wage anymore and the social contracts are belly up. "Faith Based Initiative" means you can hit the local Catholic church once a month and they will give you some canned green beans and store-brand macaroni and cheese. Enough to last maybe two days.
Until such time as everyone quits being so docile and a lot of us stand up and demand our rights (I can't do it alone) it will stay this way.
So, some guidance. Not all of it 100% legal but once you have exhaused every other avenue it's not your fault anymore IMHO. There is enough money in this country that nobody should starve. Anyway, here goes:
Drain the water off the ramen noodles and use butter or margarine with the seasonings. It fills you up better.
Google yourself a good frybread recipe. The US government has been starving the Native Americans for years and they have learned to make good stuff cheaply. Commodity pie, all that.
I don't know if this still works, but you used to be able to order a pizza under a fake name and just not pick it up. There's some kind of law that they can't keep or donate this stuff and they have to put it in the dumpster - yuck - but it's still in the box. I think McDonald's does the same thing when they close.
Go in the supermarket with a little money and eat some cheese or something while you are there. If anyone says anything just say you were going to pay for it.
In a more rural environment it is harder to do any of this but on the other hand, other people are also trying to keep body and soul together and they are poaching deer, setting out illegal trot lines and stealing corn out of the fields at night. Befriend them, they know how things are and they are not stingy.
BB, Stella

[Mangosteen]

Oh, I'm so sorry! Not even ramen? I'm sure you could try to call the food drive place, if you could get their phone number, and tell them you can't get over there. They might send you something. It's worth a try. I'm sure you could use someone's phone if you don't have a phone service... try not to sink into depression, if you haven't already, because that will just drain you of the energy do something about it. If you live on campus, tell a teacher. Tell somebody who you know can help you; you can find help in all sorts of places.

[Maverynthia]

I find the situation odd, living on campus myself. My internet is tied to my housing bill so I can't give it up. I understand that. However my college REQUIRES me to have a "Meal Plan" if I'm living in the dorms. The only places that don't require it are the apartment style houses, but then your living with 3 other people. If your in that situaton, I'd move into the dorm style and take on the meal plan since (for my college at least) the two are a balance price. ($1000 extra for aparment style -meal plan, $1000 less for dorm +$1000 meal plan)

You can also usually use your financial aid to pay for some form of meal plan. Also, most colleges have work/study programs to where you can get your work done and earn money at the same time.

[Lilith Morgaine]

I find the situation odd, living on campus myself. My internet is tied to my housing bill so I can't give it up. I understand that. However my college REQUIRES me to have a "Meal Plan" if I'm living in the dorms. The only places that don't require it are the apartment style houses, but then your living with 3 other people. If your in that situaton, I'd move into the dorm style and take on the meal plan since (for my college at least) the two are a balance price. ($1000 extra for aparment style -meal plan, $1000 less for dorm +$1000 meal plan)

You can also usually use your financial aid to pay for some form of meal plan. Also, most colleges have work/study programs to where you can get your work done and earn money at the same time.

Thank you, but I have researched those options.....

[TarotCanada]

Do you have a "Meals on Wheels" program there? I would look into that to see if they can help you out. I would also call the Salvation Army - you can't beat the Sally Ann - they will help anyone, anywhere, anytime. They also have a program called Home Safe and they will pay one major bill, one time only - rent, hydro maybe they could help with car repairs. The Red Cross can help out with some things too - like gas coupons, grocery vouchers. Don't be afraid to ask for help if you need it. You have to eat or you can't study. I know our local food bank will deliver - it is worth the call to see if the one in your area can help you in this way. There are better days ahead.

Cheryl

[taki yume]

Do you have time for a part-time job? I currently work at SubWay and we get free meals. It's just a 6 inch sandwich, and occasionally a bag of chips/a cookie or something if your manager is nice. But the people I work with don't eat the whole shift and then make a foot long sub before they leave. They've worked there for ages and have always done it and haven't gotten into trouble yet

I hope things get better soon and you find some options that will work, I can't imagine why nothing has been done for you yet!

[Sage WindMoon]

So, some guidance. Not all of it 100% legal but once you have ex
I don't know if this still works, but you used to be able to order a pizza under a fake name and just not pick it up. There's some kind of law that they can't keep or donate this stuff and they have to put it in the dumpster - yuck - but it's still in the box. I think McDonald's does the same thing when they close.

This might work, but the management at fast food places will run you off or call the cops. Also, when I worked in pizza delivery, we usually ate the fake orders ourselves - many of us were using that as our main source of food for the day. But I spent many months getting my main meal of the day from working in food service, so if it's an option for you it's worth a shot. The school cafeteria is an option too.



Go in the supermarket with a little money and eat some cheese or something while you are there. If anyone says anything just say you were going to pay for it.

Another idea - if you have a Sam's or Costco near you, you can usually find people in the aisles giving out free samples of food. Walk through the store a couple of times and eat whatever samples they have, as many times as you can. It's legal and beats the hell out of going hungry.

Or try a few bars during happy hour where they have free food. If they tell you you have to buy a drink, get a cheap soda or coffee with cream and sugar (calories). If it has to be alcohol, try another place - that's too expensive.

[stella01904]

Do you have a "Meals on Wheels" program there? I would look into that to see if they can help you out. I would also call the Salvation Army - you can't beat the Sally Ann - they will help anyone, anywhere, anytime. They also have a program called Home Safe and they will pay one major bill, one time only - rent, hydro maybe they could help with car repairs. They don't do everything everyplace, they have different things set up in different cities. One area might just have a soup kitchen, one a shelter, one assistance with bills. There is this notion people have that they help a lot and if you are having problems go to them but they are actually pretty useless, especially considering all the cash donations they collect, and the sale of donated goods in their stores. They are also known for making people coming to them for a meal attend "chapel" first.
The Red Cross can help out with some things too - like gas coupons, grocery vouchers. Don't be afraid to ask for help if you need it. You have to eat or you can't study. Don't count on them, if you are not a victim of fire or flood they really don't give a rat's patootie if you eat or not.
I know our local food bank will deliver - it is worth the call to see if the one in your area can help you in this way. There are better days ahead.The better charities usually are the local ones. I agree, if you keep bugging them someone should bring you something. This is, however, a short-term fix and they won't keep doing it. You need a second income.
I know I recommended petty thievery earlier and I'm surprised I haven't gotten smacked but I stand by that, when your only options are steal, starve or prostitute, stealing's the way to go. This too is short term so let's work on figuring out how you can bring in some cash, rather than recommending useless charities that suck everybody dry and give little or nothing back.
BB, Stella

[stella01904]

This might work, but the management at fast food places will run you off or call the cops. Also, when I worked in pizza delivery, we usually ate the fake orders ourselves - many of us were using that as our main source of food for the day. But I spent many months getting my main meal of the day from working in food service, so if it's an option for you it's worth a shot. The school cafeteria is an option too. MM ~ We used to call and order several right before closing time, then wait in the shadows and watch the guy throw them out when he was closing. Once he went home - chowtime!
And yes, when you work around food, you get food, one way or another. Some places will even let you get a free or half price meal if you work there.

Another idea - if you have a Sam's or Costco near you, you can usually find people in the aisles giving out free samples of food. Walk through the store a couple of times and eat whatever samples they have, as many times as you can. It's legal and beats the hell out of going hungry. I went to Sams once just to see what people were talking about and they ran me off because I didn't have a Sam's card! Needless to say I haven't been back, it was very insulting. But be warned, you can only go to Sam's with a card.

Or try a few bars during happy hour where they have free food. If they tell you you have to buy a drink, get a cheap soda or coffee with cream and sugar (calories). If it has to be alcohol, try another place - that's too expensive.You will have men buying you drinks. You will want to fill up on beer or whatever, but that is obviously not a good idea.
These guys will spend big money pouring alcohol into a woman all night but trying to get them to buy food, even a bag of chips, is like pulling teeth. They want you drunk and passed out. They are trying to extort sex, pure and simple. Also if it becomes known that you are in dire straits among this crowd, you will have nasty old weirdos stalking you up and down town thinking they can get oral sex for a cheeseburger. Stay out of the bars.
BB, Stella

[stella01904]

I guess that's what I'll have to do for now. The soup kitchen and food bank are too far to drive because of gas, my failing brakes, and failing transmission.................................
MM ~ The car isn't doing you any good. If you can't even eat you surely can't repair it any time in the near future. Why not sell it?
BB, Stella

[TarotCanada]

I have never known the Salvation Army to refuse anyone or to force their spirituality down anyone's throats ever. It is the one charity that you can give too and you know it goes to help people - the real people that too many others try to pretend aren't there.

Red Cross will help too - they have many kinds of community assistance programs. It beats becoming a thief. Perhaps you forgot to notice that this person is on a type of disability and very discouraged - maybe a job and school would just be too much.

Cheryl

[DarkOrion]

When someone is down and out, say it with cash...not with energy balls people. No... wait...that would mean you actually care, and aren't just trying to appear sensitive to this girls financial woes... :(

If I wasn't in a money cesspool myself I'd get this girl's RL address and wire her cash. Maybe someone out there can do so?

[SilverClaw]

I have never known the Salvation Army to refuse anyone Well they have and do, we had a case here with one of our own members here on MW who was refused.

DarkOrion and do you need to be rude in the process to make your point? Sending Energy and sending actuall money, every bit helps.


I'd get this girl's RL address and wire her cash. Maybe someone out there can do so? Ah some of us have done so already.

Hey Lilith still sending you lots of energy and keeping you in my thoughts and prayers.

[TarotCanada]

That doesn't mean they won't help this young lady and I would certainly be interested in the details of that refusal. Sorry but that just doesn't ring true at all and I speak from the voice of my own experiences. Everyone getting hissy isn't going to help her get through this.

Cheryl

[SilverClaw]

That doesn't mean they won't help this young lady and I would certainly be interested in the details of that refusal
Ya that is true but all the point was is they do refuse people that is all.
And I am also speaking from experience and what I have seen happen with people and the Salvation Army Cheryl, not meaning to get snotty or in a fit over just stating an opinion.

[Oakleaf]

Hey Lil,
Real sorry about your situation. Been there myself-at one time I took turns living in my car and on a campground. Good for you for pluggin on and even going to school! Things will eventually get better. I get paid Thurs and will try to send you something then, I am tight too as my truck was just in for repairs and it is rent time but I will do what I can. In the meantime I am chippin in on those energies!! :)

[Oakleaf]

Lil, is it true that you have a cat? How old, I can send you lots of food for kitty too! I work at a vet and we get Science Diet samples up the whahoozie! If you want to email me with your address Mistresshalo@comcast.net

[Lilith Morgaine]

Well they have and do, we had a case here with one of our own members here on MW who was refused.

Ah some of us have done so already.



is it going to Mol?



When someone is down and out, say it with cash...not with energy balls people. No... wait...that would mean you actually care, and aren't just trying to appear sensitive to this girls financial woes... :(

If I wasn't in a money cesspool myself I'd get this girl's RL address and wire her cash. Maybe someone out there can do so?

They're just trying to be supportive, but I understand what you mean *HUGS*


I have never known the Salvation Army to refuse anyone or to force their spirituality down anyone's throats ever. It is the one charity that you can give too and you know it goes to help people - the real people that too many others try to pretend aren't there.

Red Cross will help too - they have many kinds of community assistance programs. It beats becoming a thief. Perhaps you forgot to notice that this person is on a type of disability and very discouraged - maybe a job and school would just be too much.

Cheryl

Thank you for your understanding, but I need for you to understand that the US is SO far behind Canada...... Canada is like a Utopia compared to here.......... Canada actually *cares* about its people


They don't do everything everyplace, they have different things set up in different cities. One area might just have a soup kitchen, one a shelter, one assistance with bills. There is this notion people have that they help a lot and if you are having problems go to them but they are actually pretty useless, especially considering all the cash donations they collect, and the sale of donated goods in their stores. They are also known for making people coming to them for a meal attend "chapel" first. Don't count on them, if you are not a victim of fire or flood they really don't give a rat's patootie if you eat or not. The better charities usually are the local ones. I agree, if you keep bugging them someone should bring you something. This is, however, a short-term fix and they won't keep doing it. You need a second income.
I know I recommended petty thievery earlier and I'm surprised I haven't gotten smacked but I stand by that, when your only options are steal, starve or prostitute, stealing's the way to go. This too is short term so let's work on figuring out how you can bring in some cash, rather than recommending useless charities that suck everybody dry and give little or nothing back.
BB, Stella


Wow.... you *totally* get it........ so I'm not crazy......


Lil, is it true that you have a cat? How old, I can send you lots of food for kitty too! I work at a vet and we get Science Diet samples up the whahoozie! If you want to email me with your address Mistresshalo@comcast.net

Thank you so very much.... I've sent you an email......

:huddle: :huddle: :huddle: :huddle: :huddle: :huddle: :huddle: :huddle: :huddle: :huddle:

All of you are so amazing in your own way.... you guys mean the world to me.........

[~BEBZ~]

Oh sweetie! You should have said something!!! Well, now you got your MW friends on the case! And we won't let you down!

[9-2-2]

Lilith, do you have a Dillons in your area? And what else are you needing? I have a ton of clothing that I was going to donate to the Salvation Army, but if you also need clothes, I can send them to you. Where are you located, and what else are you needing? If you were in KS, I could help you out a lot easier, especially if you were in Wichita :)

[Muttnboofer]

Hi. I don't know where you are exactly so I'm giving you as much info as I have. I'd go ahead and check with the food stamps office anyhow if you haven't already done so. A lot of states have been revising their standards because of cost of living and other such things going up. Having a car may not affect you as much as you think.

Check out the list of pagan organizations on this site to see if there is one near you that will be able to help you out. http://www.circlesanctuary.org/liberty/pagancharitywork.html (http://www.circlesanctuary.org/liberty/pagancharitywork.html)
Some of them might even be able to deliver the food and such to you.

You can also check with Goddess Moon Circles Helping and Warming program to see if there is a representative near you. While the focus is on getting clothes and blankets to those who need them we also help to provide food and other items to those in need.
http://www.goddessmoon.org/programs/helping.shtml (http://www.goddessmoon.org/programs/helping.shtml)

Check here for resources that may not be listed other places.
http://www.paganaidalliance.org/ (http://www.paganaidalliance.org/)

You might also check to see if there are any of the larger pagan churches such as Covenant of the Goddess or Aquarian Tabernacle Church in your area (check here and Witchvox.com) Some of these churches are able to provide for those in need. If there is a Unitarian Universalist church in the area they may be able to help as well.

If you would like to email me about possible help more specific to your area (assuming you can't find it in one of these links...) feel free to do so. You can email me at Bridgidshearth@ev1.net

Melinda


You can also check with America's Second Harvest http://www.secondharvest.org/ (http://www.secondharvest.org/)

Also, Freecycle.org does not handle food but can possibly help with other needed items.

Many people have had problems with some of the "bigger" and better known organizations, but don't always know about the smaller groups that may be able to help them out.

[Yvonne Belisle]

In the US if you are not active military, a victem of a crime or a disaster such as fire flood or earthquake the red cross isn't going to be able to do more than recommend other resourses. Salvation army usually has a food pantry that will help with some foods make sure you have proof of income and proof of bills. They will need that to help you. The Mormon church is less helpfull out of Utah than in Utah but will sometimes help anyway it is hit and miss and depends on the bishop. I would take the local phone book and start at the first church and keep going. Baptist churches are usually very helpful but will often ask you to attend their church for them to continue to assist you. I have swallowed my pride and sat in their house of worship to feed my family in the past. They helped us get on our feet in California when we were living day to day in a hotel. They paid for two weeks of the hotel so that I could get a real job to pay for my own hotel room. They also put presents under a christmas tree they supplied for my kids. Cathlic Charities doesn't care what religion you are to help you and are all over the place. Call the grocery stores and ask which church or organization they donate the bread to. Then call that organization and ask for help. When you call the local churches ask if there is any small jobs you can do for money and explain your situation. They may be able to help locate some part time things you can do under the table so they don't affect your SSI. If there are any farmers markets in your area talk to some of the farmers and ask if you can have food in exchange for working to help load or unload or clean up the stall they use. Check through some of these links and see if you can barter service for food. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=barter+and+trade (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=barter+and+trade)

[Lilith Morgaine]

I do not want to exist anymore...........................

[Etoile]

:hugz:

I put a message in your karma for you.

[BlueMoon13]

I do not want to exist anymore...........................
Perhaps not now,this second,minute,or day. But you will go on, your kitties need their human mommy. Tie a knot and hold on. Sending you light and blessings {{{hugs you}}}}}

[PropheticMonkey]

I do not want to exist anymore...........................


No! Dont think like that! You are in a very desperate and unfair situation its true! If you have exhausted every single possibility you can think of of obtaining food, homeless shelters and other charitable places will offer food. Its one of the most basic needs that every human needs. You have to be able to eat by ANY means, even if it means stealing food. It might sound wrong, but i believe that food is something that cannot and should not be denied to someone just because of hard times. Ask everyone and anyone you can, but if people will not give you the nourishment you need you have a right to steal it. This does not make you a bad person, but one whos needs are being overlooked and THAT is a terrible thing.

(hug) we are all here to support you, but i wish i could be sending you food instead of words on a screen.

[SilverClaw]

I do not want to exist anymore I know what that feels like Lilith, but know that you are being thought of ok, and that things will get better.

[Brenda]

I'm so sorry you're feeling that way hun :hugz: but life will get better :hugz:

[Makas]

Lillith, please email me XXXmakasmanyhealsXXX AT gmail DOT com take the x's out. I can UPS a box of food for you. I feel for you and am sending positive energies. Hunger is a tough thing to deal with.

Hugs!

Makas

[taki yume]

I'm glad some one/people are sending you food and/or money. If I could I would, I honestly with out a doubt would in a heart beat....But my parents don't know that I've rejected both of their religion(s) and have found my own. They would never support it, and would DEFINATELY never let me mail someone that I don't know in person, even in a situation like this.

I wish I could do something more than feel bad for you and keep you in my mind, asking Goddess to help you...

I'm completely against stealing, but in a case like this, sometimes you have no other alternative. The only problem is: if/when you get caught, you'll be in trouble. Regardless of fact you're starving. I don't care what anyone says/does/thinks, the United States isn't that wonderful of a place. Not if you seek help when you need it the most and get nothing.

I'm so terribly sorry. I pray that things get much, MUCH better soon. Until then, try to keep your strength and spirits up.

[freespiritedgurl]

Ah, my prayers are with you.

[BrigidMoon]

Well, I could not have said it better myself.

We're all here to listen to you. We all love you and want you around!

_pounce_

[fairielove]

I am sorry to hear of your situation But hope that it is better now.
Brightest Blessings to you,

[Lilith Morgaine]

*UPDATE*
http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?t=110863

[Rayzer]

Amanda,
I gots your care package all made up but I need to get it down to the post office

[aluokaloo]

Would it be doable to send some non perishable food items? We could get a collection and send them to her. Hey girl, if you qould be all right with it, we could swap addresses, and I could send you some food.