Interpretation help....please! Objective insight needed!

[Dagda Moon~Lily]

Okay, I totally can't seem to get the court cards down...and I did a reading for myself today after a frenzied night. I just felt the need to consult the tarot. First I'll tell you what happened...then what the cards are. I didn't as a specific question. I just wanted to see what the Tarot would tell me...what I NEEDED to know.


The situation: my ex calls me out of the blue at 4 in the am ....bad situation....him and his wife are having problems-sever enough that he wants to file for divorce only after 6 months of marriage.....and somehow she always brings me up though I just bowed out of the relationship when he wanted to go back to her and marry her. (they married 2 months after he left me) The entire time he's talking to me, I finally decide it has nothing to do with the him and them....I got the feeling that he missed me. Why else call me out of the blue in the middle of the night?? There were long awkard lulls in the conversation; I got the feeling he just didn't want to end the conversation. I feel that he was 'testing the water' so to speak. (I really didn't need him to call and start messing with my head and heart again.)

The cards: the spread...from right to left- Past, present, future, and outcome. The chariot, 3 of Pentacles, Knight of Cups, and the King of Wands. I will attach the spread.

Chariot-Past: Keywords: victory, will, self-assertion, hard control. I had to keep my feelings in tight check to let him go. ....the man in the picture is singing with a harp in hand. I see that as singing praises and very happy, victorious (in love). That is how I felt when I was with the ex. ...alive in love. Everything FELT perfect on my end.

3 of Pentacles-Present: Keywords: Teamwork, planning, competence. I am a competent person. I plan, or try to. I see this as planning what my next move should be. Since it involves teamwork.....friends' advice will be considered.

Knight of Cups-Future: Keywords: romantic/overemotional, imaginative/fanciful, sensitive/tempermental, refined/overrefined, introspective/introverted.
I think this is fortelling of the emotional rollar coaster that is in the future for me. (I'm the emotional type) That I will need to go within to seek the answer I'm looking for. I know that Knights are also messengers, and this is the one of love.

King of Wands-Outcome: Keywords: Creative, inspiring, forceful, charismatic, bold. Bold, that's me all the way! Other than that....I don't know what to make of this card.

I also see knight and King are both looking toward the right....back to the past. The 3 is side-tracked....doing things to keep him busy and his mind off things. Throwing himself into his work....working his way through his thoughts....planning his next move....?? I just see two men here....and eventually, a decision will have to be made.

Okay.....let me know any insights you may have!!

[Silver Venus]

Hiya,
Sounds like you had a pretty traumatic night darl, and that this guy is really messing both his and your life around and doesnt know what he wants. Really try your best not to let him get into your head and heart again until he has sorted out his mess otherwise you will be left an emotional reck (I know this only too well!) and wounded. He does really miss you but get/help him to work his divorce/marriage out before you get involved.

I get everything you got from your cards, you know in your heart of hearts that you are right ~ you may just not want to accept it as we all don't like to.
what star sign is he? (not a cancer by any chance?)
You know about the past so lets concetrate on now and the future..
How long into the future did you say to the cards?

As youve got male cards I'd say these are him, I always read like this and it works ~ just see faces and people in the cards and often the sexes fit.

3 of Pentacles-Present: Keywords: Teamwork, planning, competence.
& three's also stand for ~ clearing the ground for something new and Menage a Trois ~ a love triangle possibly? on my deck this card depicts a kind of joker/tourist character with two naked ladies behind him ~ so I view this card to be quite sexually charged with no ties ~ him wanting attention and your love on demand when he needs it.

Knight of Cups-Future: Keywords: romantic/overemotional, imaginative/fanciful, sensitive/tempermental, refined/overrefined, introspective/introverted.
& the card for Pisces ~ dreamers, 'knight in shinning armour' and wrapped up in oneself. This card is representing him ~ sorry I have to say this but this is my male, vain, ego, dominance card: he is all the negative sides to this card.
And want you want ~ all the positive sides to the card ~ your knight in shinning armour dream (I have one too! that is often my downfall). ~ Just look at the card in my deck...

King of Wands-Outcome: Keywords: Creative, inspiring, forceful, charismatic, bold.
& the card for Aries ~ physical, sexually driven, forthright, restless and argumentative.
I get that you may have to help him to be strong and bold and get over his problems. When he does this then you can have a friendship but only then. ~ he also gets you going again, the old emotions burning but you really have to be strong and bold to not let him in.

Maybe these are two different men, I dont know ~ they are certainly very different but similar arent they?

Why dont you take the two last cards and use them to ask another question ~ what does he think of me? what does he feel towards me? How does he see the situation? what does he want from me? is he good for me? what will be this relationships outcome?

Try not to worry today and don't let yourself think of all the possiblities, outcomes (I know its hard), think positively and strongly ~ you are Athena! :sunny:

[Silver Venus]

These are my cards for your spread ~

[Semele]

Dagda,
I tend to agree with Silver on the enterpretation of your cards. I pulled a single card for you. I was looking for an offer of guidance to help you with this. The card I pulled is the ace of swords. The aces are usually the overall message of the suits magnified. To me the swords are a weapon used to, pardon my frankness, cut through the crap and get to the heart of the matter. Intellect alone, without intuition, will lead to more illusions. You do have to trust your feelings on this one. You already expressed that you feel he is missing you and that this may be the cause of his marrital distress, but have you considered that he is falling back on you because of your loving nature? Perhaps he has made some mistakes and recognizes that now. He turns immediately to you because you have always made him feel secure.

I am not saying you should shut him out, but you do have to protect yourself as well. Be there for him as a friend, especially as he is married. Maybe you can help him repair the damage done to his relationship. There is a reason he called you, although he himself may not know what it is.

In this card the hand that holds the sword has a firm grip on it, trying to control emotional extremes. This card is love and hate together in their strongest forms. Sometimes this card is a way of helping someone resurface repressed anger. Anger is just as strong of an emotion as love and can be used wisely. Perhaps for you it is just a reminder of the pain you have already suffered and a clue to keep yourself distanced from that danger. You do love him and that is good too, because you can use all of these emotions to find a favorable outcome for all involved.

Hope that helps a little.

Semele

[Dagda Moon~Lily]

Opps! I forgot to mention, I am in a relationship at this point in time. I don't know how serious our relationship really is. He's living with me, but he seems so ....stand-offish most of the time. We work seperate shifts so we hardly see each other.

Anyways, that is where I got the 2 men and a decision thing.

The man who called, let's call him...Merl...is a Libra. I'm a virgo, and my present...boyfriend if you will ...lets call him....Marv....is a Pieces (sp?). These two grew up together, but aren't very close anymore.



I didn't ask for any specific time frame for the future.

[Dagda Moon~Lily]

I just wanted to thank you both for your insights!

For now, I'll just sit back and see how Merl's present future unfolds. He needs some time to himself to straighten out some things before I'd think about taking him back. I don't need a man that is mentally and emotionally fatigued! Once he gets himself straightened out....well just see how the cards will fall....so to speak!

I know I should trust my interpretations...I just wanted to be objectionable....I didn't want to just 'see what I wanted to'. Thank you!

Semele, I drew cards for you yesterday at work, but didn't have time to interpret....so I just wrote them down and will re-lay them out tonight and let you know what I come up with! :)