sugestions of stones....

[lilyavalon]

Okay so I need a few sugestions for a few problems I am having...

FOCUS: ADHD is not fun... is there a stone that can help?

Saftey and protection: Im getting a new car soon, and the more protection the better. And I have a evil, backstabing co-worker who i would like to become invisible to her. Also would mind somethig for HATE as in the release of hate... I dont want to hate her, but its really easy to.

NEW JOB: I want to switch to another company... im in TV... Operations.


I realize there isnt a clear answer... but help is apreciated.

[vikinggoddess]

Try this techique to deal with your anger:
http://www.susunweed.com/weedforum/viewtopic.php?p=28182&highlight=#28182 (http://www.susunweed.com/weedforum/viewtopic.php?p=28182&highlight=#28182)

You can use hematite for invisibility. I have made some nice hematite pieces for travel b/c I don't want to run into any trouble while traveling. They work well.

For business I always think first to yellow tiger's eye.

[LadyCelt]

I am a newbie, but I think tiger eye and amethysts are good protectors.

[CzechWoods]

do NOT use hematite when you have ADD or ADHD; it will very much likely worthen the condition

one great stone for protection and to ease the adhd would be agate; you can even use dyed agate in the colours blue or green

this stone is also protective, grounding negativity etc.


for the tv stuff, try ulexite that is aka TV stone

as foor the work protection, id rather relly on a work success/carreer and anti mobbing buddha figurine, with which i have made pretty good experiences, because the else used hematite is not possible to be used (see above)

i hope this was the desired clear answer

[lightdragon]

the best combination for me on dealing with jobs is the combo: low grade aquamarine,iron pyrite and amazonite

[CzechWoods]

the best combination for me on dealing with jobs is the combo: low grade aquamarine,iron pyrite and amazonite

just with adhd iron pyrite, pyrite or hematite is out of option unfortunately :whistle:

[vikinggoddess]

why are pyrite and hematite bad for ADHD?

[lightdragon]

why are pyrite and hematite bad for ADHD?
offhand i can only think of both have iron in it.
Pyrite removes mental blocks and reduces anxiety .so these are good for exams .
Hematite also encourges spontaneity ,something someone with ADHD doesn`t need.
Amethyst might counter the effects with the use of pyrite.

[CzechWoods]

why are pyrite and hematite bad for ADHD?


I should say frankly, that they simply arent helping adhd but worsening it.

to say as of WHY that is, is mere guessing. i too believe that it could have to do with the iron in them.

experience with adhd suffering clients have shown that the adhd worsens when these stones are used

[lightdragon]

I should say frankly, that they simply arent helping adhd but worsening it.

to say as of WHY that is, is mere guessing. i too believe that it could have to do with the iron in them.

experience with adhd suffering clients have shown that the adhd worsens when these stones are used
is there a stone that could counter the effects that these stones do to adhd?

[CzechWoods]

not really

there are stones that weaken the adhd, and often stones can be found to additionally help ppl suffering from this disorder specifically.

those/such stones are very useful.


trying to find stones, that will balance out some unwanted effects of a stone in this case seems not to be the path of choise.

try to get to the core of the problem instead of treating symptoms. it is pretty much more effective anyway

[Pesha]

It has been my experience that a protective stone is Snowflake Obsidian. I have a freind in the southern part of my state Utah, who wears an amulat made of this stone. It appears to have a banishing affect. As to the ahad I am at a loss there. I am a nurse by profession and know nothing that could help in that direction, stone wise. All I can think of in regards to the iron not being good is that it draws on the blood. We have iron based blood (hemoglobin). So prehaps the pull is unhealthy. Handling hate try a clear quartz crystal caried with you. This helps to pull good vibrations towards you and push negatives like hate away. Also try using citrine in conjunction with the quartz. Another possibility is carring some rose quartz as it pulls loving vibes to you. Gives it to others.

Goodness did not mean to be so long winded. Sorry.

BB
DS.

[Veritas]

jet....it's what came to my mind.

[elfmage]

For the ADHD, perhaps an obsidian, as it a good grounding stone? If you use a snowflake obsidian, it could "kill two birds with one stone" so to speak, acting as both a grounding stone and a good protective stone.

A black tourmaline could be useful for absorbing the negative energies inspired by your co-worker. Again, it's also a grounding stone, helpful for ADHD.

For the job, I agree with Czechwoods, ulexite is good. Also, maybe carry a lodestone (particularly a green one if you can find it), as they promote money/employment.

Good luck, and I hope you find something that works for you! If all else fails, hang around a crystal display and see what "calls" to you.

[ishysquishy]

Hi Lilyavalon,

AS far as ADHD goes, I would like that answer, too :)

What I can tell you is that calcite should be avoided. There are a lot of rocks with calcite in it (I can only think of lapis lazuli right now but there are more), the trick is to avoid ones with lots of white flecks. My lapis has almost none, so I don't find it too bad.

Also be wary of stones which "calm the mind" (like calcite). I don't know if all of them will make ADHD worse (not having been exposed to all of them), but certainly some of them do, as what your brain needs is stimulation, despite what the sypmtoms suggest.

[ishysquishy]

I just had quick a look at through mum's crystal book.

It suggests Apatite, Moonstone, Ruby and Green Tourmaline (Verdelite) for hyperactive children (I hate it when they say "hyperactive children" as if those of us who aren't children aren't as affected by it :grrrrr: ), and also mentions about increasing concentration.

Yellow Apatite also looks a lot like a psychostimulant in rock form... even got the appetite suppression. Doesn't mention anything about cotton-mouth, though :)

For concentration, the book suggests Agate, Apatite, Carnelian, Fluorite (apparently great for disorganisation!), Lepidolite (also good for sleep disturbances which seem to be very common with ADHD), Quartz (especially clear and smoky), Ruby and Sapphire.

It also suggests for concentration...


Ametrine although going by the description it looks like the wrong kind of focus for ADHD, too close to the scatter-brained-ness that is already present.
Citrine, but I've been carrying it around and it doesn't really help. It has other benefits, though.
Hematite, but CzechWoods has already warned against it.

Unfortunately, the book doesn't mention anything specific about ADHD (aside from the hyperactive children comments)

I know!!! What we gotta ask is - "Does anybody know of a stone that helps increase dopamine in the pre-frontal cortex?" :D

(methinks I might be a nerd)

[CzechWoods]

I know!!! What we gotta ask is - "Does anybody know of a stone that helps increase dopamine in the pre-frontal cortex?" :D

(methinks I might be a nerd)

from a consultants point of view this is just a symptom, not the cause.

so trying to get such asstone would also only mean to fight one of the symptoms of ad(h)d

you are no nerd, and what you describe is very usefull and true.

what might me good for one ad/h/d person needs not to be mûch helpful to others.

a good consulting will always be an individual one.

there are cases where calcites are of help, and there can be some where they are not (as in your case). Lapis can contain calcite but there is also lapis without any calcite - but there is also lapis with pyrite.

in any case i would NOT use lapis with ad/h/d and try finding substitutes for the lapis.

I believe that LadyCelts idea of amethyst, could be such a path - but again, sometimes quartzes in general are not very helpful.

naturtal and some dyed agate varieties have proven to be helpful though, be it as used alone or used in company of other stones

ametrine can - as a quartz -- be cause of troubles/problems as well.

[CzechWoods]

JETT! perfect .

just make sure you cleanse it DAILY!!!!!

rather twice a day, than every two days, if you get my idea.

cleanse and charge well before first use.

do not use intention when charging.


ummmmm, and sometimes amber too can be of help, but jett! excellent.

[ishysquishy]

from a consultants point of view this is just a symptom, not the cause.

so trying to get such asstone would also only mean to fight one of the symptoms of ad(h)d

What do you consider to be the cause, then?

From what I've read I'd confidently say that the dopamine deficiency is the cause of most of the symptoms i.e. impulsive behaviour, inattention, disorganisation, etc. even if the deficiency itself is a symptoms of something else i.e. genetics or head injury.


what might me good for one ad/h/d person needs not to be mûch helpful to others.

Of course.

Edite: note to self - re-read posts. I meant to ask what you considered "treating the cause" meant to you as well.

[CzechWoods]

from a holistic point of view, the body is not the omnly dimension to look at. what manifests on the body level (however specific and cause setting it might appear *stress out appear*) is but the MANIFESTATION, so not the cause.

like when you have a dia projector, you might believe it is the mirrors or the light or the wall that produces the picture, but in fact, it is but a projection.

a consulatant will always (or should) consider the spiritual context as well.

please understand that i satay a bit vague.

this is not out of lack of respect or knowledge, but because i have made very bad experience with such pov, as some people stick too hard to the "reality" they perceove on the material plain, denying the realities they cannot "see" or rather "touch"

discussing who is right follows, which leads NOt to understanding but confusion or even hard feelings - none of which wanted let alone helpful.

and of course i rather would not discuss these kind of details on public domain, - i beg your understanding.

[ishysquishy]

Of course, I do understand :)

When I asked I just thought the conversation might be relevant to the thread, maybe find out what exactly the cause was.

Then again, we were thinking about entirely different types of causes! So we might not have gotten far anyway.

[CzechWoods]

i didnt mean to cease the discussion either ;)

please keep your great posts coming :D

[Pesha]

Holistically speaking Charkra work with the coressponding stones might be helpful to unblock the flows and help calm the AHAD down a bit. This I have seem done with fairly good affect.

I live in a world were I deal with the mortal as a nurse and the immortal and spiritual as a witch. It is hard if you are working with someone who lives just on the mortal plain. So much easier working with those who share pov's etc.

BB
DS.

[vikinggoddess]

offhand i can only think of both have iron in it.
Pyrite removes mental blocks and reduces anxiety .so these are good for exams .
Hematite also encourges spontaneity ,something someone with ADHD doesn`t need.
Amethyst might counter the effects with the use of pyrite.

Oh now I see:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.attn-deficit/msg/e91617ebc5af2a65 (http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.attn-deficit/msg/e91617ebc5af2a65)
J Nutr Biochem. 2004 Aug;15(8):467-72. Related Articles, Links


Dietary patterns and blood fatty acid composition in children with
attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder in Taiwan.


Chen JR, Hsu SF, Hsu CD, Hwang LH, Yang SC.


Department of Nutrition and Health Sciences, Taipei Medical University, Taipei
110, Taiwan.


Nutritional factors may be relative to attention-deficit hyperactive disorder
(ADHD), although the pathogenic mechanism is still unknown. Based on the work
of others, we hypothesized that children with ADHD have altered dietary
patterns and fatty acid metabolism. Therefore, the aim of this study was to
evaluate dietary patterns and the blood fatty acid composition in children with
ADHD in the Taipei area of Taiwan. The present study found that 58 subjects
with ADHD (average age 8.5 years) had significantly higher intakes of iron and
vitamin C compared to those of 52 control subjects (average age 7.9 years) (P <
0.05). The blood total protein content in subjects with ADHD was significantly
lower than that in control subjects (P < 0.05). On the other hand, children
with ADHD had significantly higher blood iron levels compared to the control
children (P < 0.05). Additionally, plasma gamma-linolenic acid (18:3 n-6) in
children with ADHD was higher than that in control children (P < 0.05).
Concerning the composition of other fatty acids in the phospholipid isolated
from red blood cell (RBC) membranes, oleic acid (18:1n-9) was significantly
higher, whereas nervonic acid (24:1n-9), linoleic acid (18:2n-6), arachidonic
acid (20:4n-6), and docosahexaenoic acid (22:6n-3) were significantly lower in
subjects with ADHD (P < 0.05). Our results suggest that there were no
differences in dietary patterns of these children with ADHD except for the
intake of iron and vitamin C; however, the fatty acid composition of
phospholipid from RBC membranes in the ADHD children differed from that of the
normal children.


PMID: 15302081 [PubMed - in process]

[vikinggoddess]

from my teacher in private email in regard to ADHD:
"Another stone those kids seem to be keen on is any kind of onyx, no matter what the color. You can visibly see it having a calming effect within moments of them picking it up."

[Pesha]

from my teacher in private email in regard to ADHD:
"Another stone those kids seem to be keen on is any kind of onyx, no matter what the color. You can visibly see it having a calming effect within moments of them picking it up."

I gave my grandsome some onyx stones and when he needs it he holds them and calms down with them. He has AHAD.

BB
DS.

[lightdragon]

from my teacher in private email in regard to ADHD:
"Another stone those kids seem to be keen on is any kind of onyx, no matter what the color. You can visibly see it having a calming effect within moments of them picking it up."
interesting to know.
the same applies to Dragonsinger