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Shadow
December 11th, 2001, 05:38 PM
Where has our knowledge gone? Is it truely lost?

Old Witch
December 12th, 2001, 09:55 AM
I still know what I know. Maybe its just hiding until the times are right. I'm not kidding. Some of us are enlightened( I'm not saying I am, but I'm on my way).The search for knowledge is never ending because one more truth is always just out of reach right around the corner............................:shift:

Twig
December 12th, 2001, 10:20 AM
Yes, magick is still here. It is in the rocks, the trees, the very air! It is us that has changed. As a result, it's a little harder to access. When man started to embrace technology he began to disbelive in the magick that is the Earth.

As far as enlightenment?? :ghost:

Peace,
Twig
:elf:

ps Hey O.W.! I come from SC myself. Greenville area. What about you?

ReverendAJS
December 12th, 2001, 11:26 AM
You know, I'm going to ba agrumentative about this for a second.

When man started to embrace technology he began to disbelive in the magick that is the Earth.
I agree that humankind has ignored magick for a little while, but it has nothing to do with technology directly. I use technology in my magick all the time, the two are not mutually exlusive. Ancient peoples used technology in their practices. Everything is technology. Everything that makes us human anyway. The technology of fire, the technology of language, the technology of woodwork, metalwork, stonework... All these are ancient technologies and are very obvious in magick as we see it today and as it's always been. It's the attitude that's changed, and that is what made us forget magick. People saw technology as a way to accomplish the things that they used to use magick for, and so it was abandoned in favor of something better. We are begining to see now that technology will not make our lives perfect, and so we turn back to magick. Don't ignore technology as a tool for magick. If you did you would be running around in the woods naked and grunting. Modern technology, computers and the like, are another tool in our magical arsenal. Ancient cultures used the technology they had in their magick. Maybe the reason why magick has been forgotten is because it hasn't stayed in touch with the technology. I, for one, am doing my part to reunite the two.
Reverend aJS
I step off of my soapbox.

Old Witch
December 12th, 2001, 02:52 PM
Hey, Twig, I'm in the Aiken area myself. I used to have a lot of aunts and uncles around Spartanburg and Pacolet Mills.My Mom was from Union. Small world........ I like your :elf: As for enlightenment, I guess I mean the instant every thing is revealed( probably at the moment of death), that sort of thing.

mato
December 12th, 2001, 03:40 PM
Magick is not lost, we are.

Myst
December 12th, 2001, 04:45 PM
what mato said

to the n'th

Myst
December 12th, 2001, 04:51 PM
Originally posted by Twig
When man started to embrace technology he began to disbelive in the magick that is the Earth.

Started to embrace technology? Technology being what, the first Roman aqueducts? Chariots? Uhm?

mato
December 12th, 2001, 07:17 PM
Originally posted by Myst
what mato said

to the n'th

eh? I am confused what is this n'th? :confused:

Old Witch
December 12th, 2001, 07:26 PM
I don't want to speak for Myst but she probably means to the n'th degree.

StormChaser
December 12th, 2001, 10:50 PM
and I asked God "what was the last miracle" "don't you know? automatic toilot flushers"

Paraphrased Ellen.

Theres a beautiful song that I think answers this quite well.

I Dreamed There Were Unicorns
by Bill Caddick

We were traveling north to sing and play
For friends that we had never met
Been working hard and didn't speak
The sky was grey and threatened wet
And I dreamed that I saw unicorns
Dreamed I saw them wild and white
their sudden beauty lit the world
Like a star will light a winter's night

Pure as love with manes of milk
They danced and pranced and cried aloud
Bright as rainbows round the stars
Their eyes were soft and sad and proud

And I wept for the wild and dirty world
To which this beauty now was lost
And cursed the hungry mind of man
That feeds the future at such cost
My head was bowed, my eyes were closed
When in my ears their voices rang
And these few words lodged deep inside
And in my very soul they sang

We never went away
You always knew that we were near
Remember how to look for us
You'll see we were always here

I raised my eyes to seek them out
The world was empty all around
The rain came tumbling from the sky
It drowned all dreams upon the ground
And when they asked me why I wept
Like one who for his dead love mourns
The only answer I could give
I dreamed that there were unicorns
We never went away
You always knew that we were near
Remember how to look for us
You'll see we were always here

Insert Magick in place of Unicorns..

Myst
December 13th, 2001, 07:31 AM
Yup

It means infinitely - basically a lot.

Kaylara
December 13th, 2001, 09:08 AM
Originally posted by Myst


Started to embrace technology? Technology being what, the first Roman aqueducts? Chariots? Uhm?

Rocks, houses and spears!

Now that's what I consider technology!!!!!! :) :) :) :) :)

Kaylara

Myst
December 13th, 2001, 09:43 AM
heh!

I wouldn't agree with that statement tho. The Romans had Ceres/Demeter, and Neptune, and Jupiter and Uranus, so on. The earliest churches didn't have much technology but encouraged a belief system that wasn't based on the earth and sky. Soon people believed more in erecting churches and being humble in those temples then worshipping the earth wherever they were. *shrugs*

Sorry I'll stop rambling now :)

mato
December 13th, 2001, 04:10 PM
Originally posted by Myst
Yup

It means infinitely - basically a lot.

Ok kool, I was think more along the lines of something I saw in a movie...