Vanic paths?

[David19]

Hi i'm hoping someone can help me. I've recently heard something about Vanatru(sp) and would like to learn more about it like what specifically do they do?, how is it different to Asatru and what type of magic do they do.

If you are a practicioner, could you help me out or let me know of any sites that deal with it.

Thanks

[Hangatyr 13]

"Vanatru"? I've met a cross-dresser or two who claim to be "Vanic". Here's my take on the matter: Asatru (or Heathenry, whatever you want to call it) includes the worship of both the Aesir and the Vanir. As some individual Asatruar (like me) pray mostly to Odin, Thor, and Tyr, some pray mostly to Freyr or Freya. I personally don't see the purpose of coming up with different names for what is essentially the same thing. It only divides us more.

As far as 'magic' goes, Seidh (witchdom) is generally attributed more to the Vanir. Is it a coincedence that wiccans worship a "Lord" and "Lady" when the names "Freyr" and "Freya" mean "Lord" and "Lady"?

Oh well. I can't think of too many sources on Vanatru, but you seem to be interested in some good subjects these days. You might find some good material if you go to a search engine and type in "Seidh" or "Seidhr".

[KellyP]

Being familiar with the Heathen ways I have encountered the term Vanatru in many places and thought finding decent information on their practices would be simple. However, after doing a bit of web searching I didn't find a great deal of useful information. Perhaps the best of what I did find was at http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~fealcen/vanicve.htm.

Now that you have asked, I am somewhat curious as to what the beliefs and practices of someone who follows Vanatru might be or how it is distinguished from the more inclusive Asatru. Maybe more of the MW Heathens will wander in here and provide info for us.

[aluokaloo]

http://www.vanatru.com/

http://www.tyrvald.com/pagan/norsewitch.html

http://www.geocities.com/ule_beornheard/xhearth.html

http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~fealcen/vanicve.htm

http://sunnyway.com/runes/seidr.html



here are some links I hope you find what you are looking for.

[Driffinna]

I have heard the term, but have never actually met anyone who applies it to themself. I know quite a few Asatru who are dedicated the Vanic gods though. Asatru while techinically meaning "true the Aesir" many people just translate it to "true the Gods" being we worship both the Aesir, the Vanir.

[Malcolm]

Vantru?

Never heard of it. I suppose it would be a veneration of the Landveiter(sp?) or land spirits. They're hep cats. I like them. They get a little mischevious at times but its all in fun.

[Driffinna]

Vantru?

Never heard of it. I suppose it would be a veneration of the Landveiter(sp?) or land spirits. They're hep cats. I like them. They get a little mischevious at times but its all in fun.


I believe its suppose to be of the Vanir, as in the Vanic gods- Njord, Frey, Freya, etc

[seapearls]

I am growingly more interested in Vanatru also. Not to serve one set of gods over another or anything because I'd never split them apart but more because of the nature & more magical workings in Vanatru from what I've been told by other Vanatru online.

But like Hangatyr 13 said, I think I agree it would still be the same thing but just focusing more on a different part of it.

[David19]

Does anyone know if there are any online classes that teach Vanatru magic since i've heard it's the most magical part of Asatru and was wondering how to learn about it.

Thanks

[seapearls]

Does anyone know if there are any online classes that teach Vanatru magic since i've heard it's the most magical part of Asatru and was wondering how to learn about it.

Thanks

This class on Vanic Witchdom is has been in progress for a few weeks but still not past the 1st week of class. You have to send a message to the teacher for the key, click on the blue I for her emaill addy.

http://ragngautr-kindred.org/moo/

[Ælfred]

I understand Vanatru to be a subsect within Asatru. The same religion but with more focus on that particular family of gods. I've met a few people who call themselves Vanatru, usually those who have Freyr or Freyja as their fulltrui.

I recently created a yahoo group (check my sig.) for this subject, as I've had a growing interest in the Cult of the Vanir for some time.

The Vanatru.com (http://vanatru.com/) site looks promising though it isn't much at the moment.

[David19]

Thanks for the links :).

[Fire-scryer]

I understand Vanatru to be a subsect within Asatru. The same religion but with more focus on that particular family of gods. I've met a few people who call themselves Vanatru, usually those who have Freyr or Freyja as their fulltrui.

Yes, I agree. However, the comment about Vanic being the most magical I have to disagree with. In terms of Seidhr, yes. Freyja is the one that taught Odhinn Seidhr.

However, Galdr, runagaldrar, galdrastafir, these types of "magic" belong to Odhinn. So while saying that the Vanic tribe was magical holds truth, I do not believe they were the "most" magical per se. I believe that both tribes had their strong points, Vanir - Seidhr, Aesir - Runes.

[Ælfred]

Aye. Both the Æsir and Vanir had their own forms of magic, knowledge of which was traded between them after the war. I've only worked with the futhark, mostly studying the rune poems and the lore around them. At the moment I know next to nothing about Seidhr, Spá or other forms.

[Fire-scryer]

I am in a constant state of learning and studying the Runes and working on my Spá-craft.

I am looking to broaden my horizens into leech-craft as well. It seems interesting andis something I eventually want to learn.

[seapearls]

My experience since this thread started 2 years ago........I've never come across any actual Vanatru group, a serious one I mean. The Vanatru.com website has sat empty like that for over a year now if I remember correctly. Any interest I saw in Vanatru 2 years ago online when this thread started I've seen fade quickly. So in my opinion, Vanatru is pretty much nonexistent. I also know no real heathens acknowledging it as being different at all than regular Asatru/Odinism. I myself see no difference. Someone looking for a more magical and fluffy way to honor the norse gods needs to move on, if they are serious about the norse gods then Asatru/Odinism is the right place. Things that people try to throw into a "Vanic" path are in the regular one, it just has to be realized.

My 2 cents gathered since this thread started.