The police here!!

[Astara Seague]

I can not believe what happened in my neighborhood over this weekend, first of all we have a house across the street from us that two guys in their 20's rent, because they are single and young they party:fprtyman3 ..actually quite a bit and thier partys are not just 3 or 4 of their friends it is more like 20 to 30 of their "closest" friends,some times more it is on weekends and gets kind of loud on occasion we are pretty use to it _ they dont usually cause to much of a rukus except a couple of times and we dont like to cause problems for them as long as they keep things in control we dont call the police, we usually just talk to them since we know them. :chatty:

well around midnight the other night we had just gone to bed and we hear a big bang and slams and a screaming girl and a few guys yelling and some running so of course we get up and look outside to see what was up, we see about four guys running through the yards around us being followed by three we knew were from across the street, well then we see one returning holding his head yelling to his girlfriend that they had hit him in the head with a bat and broke his trucks window well she ran to him to see if he was ok,she was kind of holding him up the other neighbor next door to their house had come outside as well as us at this time, the kid who had gotten hit was yelling to his neighbor to call the cops, the man went inside we presummed he was calling so we didnt, he had a much better view of what was going on then us anyways. I looked at the clock and it was now around 10 after, well of course I couldnt fall back to sleep, so I watched and waited from the inside, you know just incase, well the kids that had done the damage heard that the cops had been called and all jumped in a car and took off, the guys who lived in the house were now trying to talk the guy and his girlfriend to come inside, but he wouldnt, well these guys decided they were leaving to when they found out the cops had been called they turned out the lights and locked the door and left their so called friend there outside with his girlfriend, he was on his cell phone to so I figured he was also calling the cops, a few girls arrived Im guessing the girlfriends friends to take them somewhere or whatever,

then the next thing I saw the kid who had been hurt was in the middle of the road flagging down someone it has now been nearly 30 minutes, but instead of the police it was the fire engine it had no police support whatsoever :strike: they checked the kid out and was there for nearly 15 minutes, still no police, then a ambulance arrives one of the firemen tell them to go that they arent needed. about 5 to 10 minutes after the ambulance left finally a police car arrives, it has been nearly a hour now! _tsk_ The car has a female officer and a maybe 5 foot tall male officer, the woman takes the lead while the man just stands there he didnt even seem to be paying attention, I think they were there maybe 5 minutes then they left.

The thing that upsets me is latly there has been tons of gang activity and kids hurting and killing other kids around Salt Lake, it seems to me that the cops should have been there a heck of a lot faster then they were and then to send firemen, unarmed and not police trained into a situation like that it is beyond me! they didnt know everyone had already gone it could have been alot worse then it was :spaceman: I even watched the news to see if anything else of consequences was going on that night to delay them and there was not at least none news worthy maybe I am wrong but if someone needs the police in a emergency situation I dont think they should have to wait a hour for assistance, a person could be dead or worse by then
_inabox_

[Pesha]

Damn. That is not good. I know from experience that here in Ogden, North and South and Ogden proper, our cops come quick. What may have been a really bad situation should have been delt with sooner. At least this is not Los Angeles, where you might get the cops out the next day if you are lucky.

BB
DS.

[Astara Seague]

Yeah I know I used to live there!! it just is so unnerving, I felt bad for the firemen, I wonder how often that happens to them:)

[Gypsy flower]

Wow! I would probaly be a bit upset to, maybe next time you should call too maybe if more call they will come faster .:)

[Ambertree]

Its just like that they dont come for what they call maliocious mischeif I had a simlier thing happen in my neighborhod as well, it took them monthes of complaints to get them to finally bust the meth lab in my neighborhood and
I live in Sandy

[Eldric_Dragonsblood]

Of course, when the young man was on the cellphone, if he was talking to the police, he might have told the dispacher the perpetrators of the act have left and gave a description of the vehicle. And dispach sent out the first medical responder in the area to assess the injury of the victim, and the officers who did arrive might have just got back from picking up the perps, or were sent out to get a report of the attack while other officers were involved in tracking down the suspects.

I can understand you may feel concerned at the police's response time, but you really don't have enough information to make a ligitimate gripe. The news doesn't show everything, never have, never will.

Additionally, I have a BIG concern with this


The car has a female officer and a maybe 5 foot tall male officer

The hardest, most effective officers I have met have been women and "small" guys. Size and sex doesn't matter, it's attitude and training.

[RoseKitten]

The police around here aren't that great either. Our neighbors were smoking pot, we *saw* them, 'cause one opened the door to go outside as we were walking in. We called the cops, and they didn't even care. Kinda bugged me.

Also, there were kids shooting fireworks off on a busy road and at the cars, called the cops, and again, they didn't care. _tsk_

[9-2-2]

Wichita cops suck, but Derby cops are on the ball... mostly because Derby is a rich resort town.

When I ran away after being beaten by my dad, I ran to the cops and told them what happened. To my disgust and surprise, they turned me back to my dad. They "knew" I was just a stupid teenager and a spoiled brat. I was kept under lock and key at home until everything healed, so I couldn't prove anything.

While I was at the station btw, the cops answered a call about a woman who had her car stolen. They just yelled at her and hung up the phone. Wichita police are just a pack of insensitive, moronic pricks, the freshest of the most backwards crop of this state.

Derby cops, though... jeez, they must have nothing to do, because it takes like 6 - 8 patrol cars to stop a speeder... man, I was with a friend who got stopped for speeding, more and more cop cars just showed up and looked at us all funny. What, a pack of nerds are a threat to society now? lol.
So 4 cars stayed to watch us - the 16 year old driver was scared and crying - and the other 4 cars circled the block. I thought it was a riot, lol. :lol:

[demonique]

Not to rain on anyone's "those blasted cops!" parade... has it occured to you that maybe nobody actually called the cops for a long time? I mean... you didn't. Maybe neither did your neighbor, or anyone else until the kid called someone - and it could be he didn't call the police, but called his mother or his uncle or a friend, and it ended up that an ambulance was called, instead. As you weren't there and didn't call the cops yourself... it's hard to say what really went on, and blaming the cops in this case may be an entirely wrong assumption, since you did say... "I presumed he [the neighbor] was calling" and "I assume he was talking to the cops too". They've done studies on this... most people assume the same thing you did. Could be everyone assumed someone else was calling the cops, and nobody did until quite some time later, at which point, everything had been diffused, so all they sent was an ambulance (firetrucks usually arrive first in my experience). Could be the /firetruck/ called the cops, hence their late arrival. Could be a lot of things.

Or, could be that they were bumped down on the list - maybe there were bigger things going on at the moment and they didn't have the manpower to spare for a fight that was darned near over.

Hard to say, but assuming they're just not doing the job when /you/ didn't call to report that they needed the cops /now/, is something you can't really do. _tsk_

[semi]

Someone getting hit on the head with a baseball bat would have a very low priority when there are more serious crimes going on somewhere else in the area. You said there's a lot of gang activity there. I'm surprised the police showed up at all, let alone within an hour. I once caught a guy cutting a window screen to get into a neighbor's place. Literally caught him and held him while I called the police. He offered to hook me up with some crack if I let him go. The police came (and they came within a half hour because there are a lot of them in my beighborhood, not a good neighborhood) and I told them what he did, the attempted burglary and the drug offer. The woman whose place he tried to get into refused to open her door to the police (she's a prostitute and drug addict). So without her to press charges on the guy, it would've taken too much time and effort to pursue the case. They let the guy go. Even though he was a criminal who was caught in the act, they let him go because they simply had more important things to do, more violent and dangerous crimes to investigate. I was angry about it, but I understand. The police are overworked and underpaid and don't have the time or resources to go after every crime committed. They have to prioritize. Some things get a low priority and others don't even make it onto the list. It sucks, but that's reality.

[Astara Seague]

yes I know your right, its to bad they dont pay them better they should get more money then docters I dont know if I could ever handle being a cop I do respect their work, I was just in such shock becuse of what happened and in my neighborhood, just nights before some neighborhoods not far away had a young kid beat to death with a bat and after that the retaliation a kid got shot and the night before that soem kids went through another neighborhood breaking windows out of cars parked on the road for no reason. It really scares me _inabox_

[semi]

Astara, I understand. Crime, especially youth and gang related crime is out of control in some places. In my city, there were five teens shot and killed within approximately two weeks. One of them, a good student and star high school athlete, really good kid, was shot in the back of the head because he smiled at a gang members girlfriend. Another kid was shot to death by a stray bullet outside of a youth center where he would go on weekends to avoid gangs and street crime. It's crazy.

One way to fight back is to vote strategically. Vote for people in your local elections who take a hard stance on street crime. And support any local grassroots action to stop this crap. Be involved.

[phoenixblayze]

Astara, I understand. Crime, especially youth and gang related crime is out of control in some places. In my city, there were five teens shot and killed within approximately two weeks. One of them, a good student and star high school athlete, really good kid, was shot in the back of the head because he smiled at a gang members girlfriend. Another kid was shot to death by a stray bullet outside of a youth center where he would go on weekends to avoid gangs and street crime. It's crazy.

One way to fight back is to vote strategically. Vote for people in your local elections who take a hard stance on street crime. And support any local grassroots action to stop this crap. Be involved.
i agree totally. i really dont have a problem with gangs directly where i live, but crime in our closest city, louisville ky, is getting really bad. i think they have had over 70 murders this year. i know that not alot to some, but here its really crazy. a girl i went to high school with was burned to death just last month.........and you cant do anything but feel helpless because there never seems to be enough law enforcement around to help

[9-2-2]

Someone getting hit on the head with a baseball bat would have a very low priority when there are more serious crimes going on somewhere else in the area. You said there's a lot of gang activity there. I'm surprised the police showed up at all, let alone within an hour. I once caught a guy cutting a window screen to get into a neighbor's place. Literally caught him and held him while I called the police. He offered to hook me up with some crack if I let him go. The police came (and they came within a half hour because there are a lot of them in my beighborhood, not a good neighborhood) and I told them what he did, the attempted burglary and the drug offer. The woman whose place he tried to get into refused to open her door to the police (she's a prostitute and drug addict). So without her to press charges on the guy, it would've taken too much time and effort to pursue the case. They let the guy go. Even though he was a criminal who was caught in the act, they let him go because they simply had more important things to do, more violent and dangerous crimes to investigate. I was angry about it, but I understand. The police are overworked and underpaid and don't have the time or resources to go after every crime committed. They have to prioritize. Some things get a low priority and others don't even make it onto the list. It sucks, but that's reality.

Uh... make sure he doesn't come after you with friends. o_O;;

[Malcolm]

At the liquor store I worked at in college we had actual shots fired in the convinience store next door. It took the cops an hour and a half to show up. After that the detectives came.

Cops here are worthless. But you better never ever get caught not wearing a seat belt or speeding, you'll get jumpedby three cars.

I think its a Kansas thing, not just Wichita.