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mato
December 13th, 2001, 05:16 PM
who ya gonna call?

Ok I have some sort of astral portal in my basement and I need to close it cause when the cats are away the ghosts will play.

here's the thing, my mom and sister attract these things cause they are spewing uncontroled energy and they refuse to deal with it so they get sick and I end up with the clean up. When we moved in here my mom thought the place was haunted and sure enough hauntings happened (cause she opened the damn thing!). I dismissed most of them and helped the trapped one (that was the one that my mother had been feeling) out, closed the portal (or so I thought) and called it done. After some six months without a problem, I have noticed an old woman in the house and although my mother isnt bothered by her she has taken an interest in my nephews, nothing bad but doing grandmotherly things (she's my mothers grand mother so...). I know who she is and I know what she is doing here, I asked her to come in this time as my mother had requested it, but the portal is rather annoying. There continues to be ragular unwanted visitors through it and I cant close it with the old woman here, and she is important to my mother... Any thoughts? I have been thinking of putting up a guardian but what type would work here?

Rick
December 13th, 2001, 05:49 PM
Draw a Thorngarth around it... using the Thurisaz Rune (see Rune #3 in Divination for a picture), connect 8 of them in a stop-sign shape, with the 'thorns' pointing inward... this will contain an Ice Giant, so transient spirits shouldn't really be any problem... with the thorns turned inward, Grandma can go back in... she just can't come out...

Hedwig
December 14th, 2001, 12:28 AM
Do you mind if I ask how it was opened in the first place. It may not be important to help you close it but I'd like to avoid it.

mato
December 14th, 2001, 02:13 AM
strong emotions and stuff mixed with energy that she was throwing around and she focused all this on the crawlspace that she had fears about (mice spiders and other creepy crawlers) ad to this the fear of an unknown presence and she opened up her fears in the form of a portal in the basement. Sounds wierd but she has no real control over her energy so she does things without knowing it.

Adrenaline Junkie
December 14th, 2001, 04:56 PM
I would cleanse the area with a smudge stick, while doing a chant to my deity. I would then cleanse the area with the elements and ask Spirit to close the portal.

I don't think any elaborate ritual or calling a guardian would be needed. A little cleansing can go a long way!



Draw a Thorngarth around it... using the Thurisaz Rune (see Rune #3 in Divination for a picture), connect 8 of them in a stop-sign shape, with the 'thorns' pointing inward... this will contain an Ice Giant...

Thats also a terrific idea, if you decide to go the guardian route :D

Myst
December 29th, 2001, 12:36 AM
'Portal' to what exactly?

mato
December 29th, 2001, 02:26 AM
Originally posted by Myst
'Portal' to what exactly?

Just your standered opening to the land of the dead (happy hunting grounds the astral plane summerland whatever), nothing fancy.

Myst
December 29th, 2001, 02:32 AM
oh. you don't believe most people move to another life after this one?

Lavender
December 29th, 2001, 02:41 AM
From your original post, it sounds like your mother has reasons for not wanting this portal closed. If you do succeed in closing this one, she may open another one in its place. Perhaps you should discuss this with your mom?

Certainly wouldn't want your cat wandering through that portal. :p

mato
December 30th, 2001, 11:29 PM
Originally posted by Myst
oh. you don't believe most people move to another life after this one?

I believe in reincarnation, but I also believe that after this life I would like to have a break, catch up on some reading, enjoy a nice sunset lol. Its the 'resting place' were we go either just to pass from one life to the next with no pit stop, or hang around see if they cant tie up loose ends, review life whatever... I mean there is no need to rush things, the earth isnt going any were and time is relative in death (amoungst other places).

Myst
December 31st, 2001, 06:58 AM
I see.

Being a medium who is aware of several spirits around me at all times, regardless of where I am or what I'm doing, I donno if they need a door to get here. *shrugs*

I agree with Wildchild.

I wouldn't necessarily get rid of any of the spirits around me or prevent them from showing up, unless they were malicious.