Saint of gay people

[David19]

I'm hoping you can help me out here, i remember reading there was a patron saint of gay people (i also think he was a teenager when he died) but can't remember his name, do any of you know the name or maybe any other saints of gay/GLBT people?

Thanks

[Cyzarine]

I'm not sure...but maybe you can ask here
CAHL (http://www.cahl.us/)
and here is another link I just found which has some litanies to the Saints for homosexuals...
The Abbey (http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/2874/abbey.html)

[gurlygurl2004]

Wow, I'd never guessed there would be saint for GBLTs.

[Mithrea]

In 244 C.E. (current era), St. Tarcissus, a patron saint for gay Catholics who died at the age of 13 in the arms of a Christian soldier, was canonized.

from: http://www.suphawut.com/gvb/gayly/gay_history2.htm


There is also this:
http://www.otkenyer.hu/halsall/lgbh-gaysts.html

[Meryln2k]

There are a couple, Sts. Sergius and Bacchus and Sts. Theodore and Theodore who are venerated as gay saints in the more radical corners of Orthodoxy. You might wish to google them and see what comes up.:boing:

[Agaliha]

St. Sebastian. I saw something mention something.

[ViolinGoddess]

I very seriously doubt that there are saints for the gay/lesbian community. DOn't catholics think that being gay is a sin??

Violin Goddess

But if you'd like to look, here are some sites.

http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/sbook3.html
http://www.catholic-forum.com/SAINTS/patron00.htm

Good luck!

[_Banbha_]

St. Sebastian. I saw something mention something.


St. Sebastian is a major gay icon. There are some Saints who were gay or were considered representitives of Lesbian or Gay after the fact because of their stories. I'll have to read up on it and get back to the thread. I'm too sleepy now. ;)

[Arion]

Wow, I'd never guessed there would be saint for GBLTs.
Yeah, no kidding. Christians are usually trying to "cure" homosexulaity rather than honour it. :ugh:
There are a couple, Sts. Sergius and Bacchus
Oooh, St. Bacchus? Bacchus was the Roman Dionysus, who was a patron God of effeminacy and homosexuality in men. How interesting!

[David19]

Yeah, no kidding. Christians are usually trying to "cure" homosexulaity rather than honour it. :ugh:

Oooh, St. Bacchus? Bacchus was the Roman Dionysus, who was a patron God of effeminacy and homosexuality in men. How interesting!

And there's also St. Tarcisis(sp?), mentioned in one of the posts above, as 13year old who died in a soldier's (his lover?) arms.

It goes to show that while the people in Church think being LGBT is a 'sin', the actual beliefs say different (and the early Christian's did perform gay marriages).

[Meryln2k]

And there's also St. Tarcisis(sp?), mentioned in one of the posts above, as 13year old who died in a soldier's (his lover?) arms.

It goes to show that while the people in Church think being LGBT is a 'sin', the actual beliefs say different (and the early Christian's did perform gay marriages).

Exactly. I have attended Liturgies at a gay friendly parish in San Francisco (Eastern Orthodox no less) and whilst the Bishop hasn't worked up the intestinal fortitude to perform weddings yet, it's a definite step in the right direction. What the official church says on the topic of gays/lesbians/transgendered persons and what is sometimes the reality are two different things.

Just for the record, the young man who was cured by Jesus at the regquest of the Roman centurion is thought by many to have been the nturion's "boy" (lover). If so I think it is safe to say that Jesus didn't have many (if any) issues around it.

[MysticWitch]

I dont think there are gay saints either. The catholic faith doesnt believe in gay orientation. It disrupts their perfection of a female male relationship with lack of birth control methods since sex is only used for reproduction. I think if there is a gay saint the church must not have known until after the fact.
Shows that they like people and they dont even know their sexual orientation.. obviously gay people are just as nice and wonderful as the next "straight" person.

[David19]

I dont think there are gay saints either. The catholic faith doesnt believe in gay orientation. It disrupts their perfection of a female male relationship with lack of birth control methods since sex is only used for reproduction. I think if there is a gay saint the church must not have known until after the fact.
Shows that they like people and they dont even know their sexual orientation.. obviously gay people are just as nice and wonderful as the next "straight" person.

They may not 'like LGBT people, or the orientation' at least, but there still is a gay saint, i think it's just the people who have a problem with LGBT people, not the religion, i think the people are from a different era (most of them come from the 1950's, etc), and old, so they are mostly a product of the environment, hopefully, when the younger Catholic's (and Christian's of other denominations(sp?)), get in, things will change (i'd really like to say a priest perform a gay wedding, the Reform Jew's have, and there's also a pro-LGBT Muslim group, etc).

Most people might say that Christianity is 'against LGBT people', i don't think that is true (considering my uncle is gay and still Catholic, and goes to Church every sunday, he's even more devout than my dad, and my uncle hasn't been struck down by Jesus, Mary or Yahweh). Like i said, the priests and others there are a product of the environment (most people of their era were brought up to believe being LGBT was wrong, and a 'sin', etc).

[Arion]

Most people might say that Christianity is 'against LGBT people', i don't think that is true (considering my uncle is gay and still Catholic, and goes to Church every sunday, he's even more devout than my dad, and my uncle hasn't been struck down by Jesus, Mary or Yahweh). Like i said, the priests and others there are a product of the environment (most people of their era were brought up to believe being LGBT was wrong, and a 'sin', etc).
But the thing is, there are anti-homosexual "laws" in the Bible, not just once, but several times, if I'm not mistaked. In Leviticus it says when two men lie together it is an abomination, and somewhere in the Romans section of the NT, there's another similar statement on how God hates homosexuals.

I don't know if God really does hate homosexuals, I'm not a Christian and I've never worked with their God, so I can't say. From their scriptures though, Christianity is anti-gay, for the most part. Modern liberal Christians choose to ignore that, but it is in the Bible.

For a God of Love, He sure seems to hate a lot of things8O

[David19]

But the thing is, there are anti-homosexual "laws" in the Bible, not just once, but several times, if I'm not mistaked. In Leviticus it says when two men lie together it is an abomination, and somewhere in the Romans section of the NT, there's another similar statement on how God hates homosexuals.

I don't know if God really does hate homosexuals, I'm not a Christian and I've never worked with their God, so I can't say. From their scriptures though, Christianity is anti-gay, for the most part. Modern liberal Christians choose to ignore that, but it is in the Bible.

For a God of Love, He sure seems to hate a lot of things8O

Although, i think, those 'laws' actually came about when the Jew's were still tribal, they wanted to become a 'nation', and you can't really do that without a bigger population.

Also, homosexuality was a part of early Judaism, and i'm planning on researching what part it played and how much it played in early Judaism.

I doubt Yahweh 'hates' gay people (like i said my uncle is gay and Catholic and hasn't been 'struck down' yet, and there are lots of gay Christian's, Jew's and Muslim's, and liberal, gay Christian movements (or pro-LGBT movements) are growing (e.g. Reform Judaism, there's also a liberal, pro-LGBT Catholic movement, etc).

Like i said, there may be scriptural 'evidence' that the bible is 'anti-LGBT', but there's also a lot of evidence Christian's (at least the early ones) weren't (considering they did perform gay marriages, something which wasn't done in a lot of other cultures, except maybe Egypt and the Aztec culture), and there's St. Tarcisis(sp?), a gay saint.

[XsimpleXsimonX]

Are those saints official though?

[Lovehound]

I sure hope so. I sure think they should be.

So...why not make them official in your own mind and heart?