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Hærfest Leah
November 25th, 2005, 03:51 PM
I saw this and was wondering, this is a new pathway isn't it?

http://www.witchvox.com/va/dt_va.html?a=usny&c=trads&id=4637

It says they honor Welsh gods but is goddess oriented. I like the myths & legends but as a religion......

Mithrea
November 25th, 2005, 04:58 PM
How do you mean new? :)

Hærfest Leah
November 25th, 2005, 06:04 PM
How do you mean new? :)


As in Neo-Pagan, it isn't based on any ancient faith like the reconstruction or shamanic paths right? It's just come about in the past 10 yrs or so hasn't it?

Mithrea
November 25th, 2005, 06:13 PM
As in Neo-Pagan, it isn't based on any ancient faith like the reconstruction or shamanic paths right? It's just come about in the past 10 yrs or so hasn't it?

Oh okay, I thought you meant new as in right now. :) I don't know, I would email the author of that article and ask :)

Hærfest Leah
November 25th, 2005, 07:05 PM
Oh okay, I thought you meant new as in right now. :) I don't know, I would email the author of that article and ask :)

Has anyone here heard of anyone practicing an avalonian or arthurian religious path? I thought I saw a post here on it but couldn't find. I assume those practices would just fall back on the Norse gods when it comes to deity due to the locations.

Silver Ivy
November 25th, 2005, 07:59 PM
In one of the books I'm reading, it describes Welsh and British Gods and Goddesses as a Pantheon to worship ... the only thing I have against this is that it lists Arthur as a God ... I don't believe that. But, I have always been attracted to this period in history and find it really interesting. I have never heard of anyone following an Avalonian/Arthurian Path, but their are probably people who incorporate arthurian/welsh/british deities into their beliefs. I'm pretty sure that there were Welsh deities around before the time of the arthurian legends, but they somehow got merged together ...
Anyway, hope that helps, I'm not an expert or anything ... so I hope that you find the information that you're looking for :)

Hærfest Leah
November 26th, 2005, 09:23 AM
In one of the books I'm reading, it describes Welsh and British Gods and Goddesses as a Pantheon to worship ... the only thing I have against this is that it lists Arthur as a God ... I don't believe that. But, I have always been attracted to this period in history and find it really interesting. I have never heard of anyone following an Avalonian/Arthurian Path, but their are probably people who incorporate arthurian/welsh/british deities into their beliefs. I'm pretty sure that there were Welsh deities around before the time of the arthurian legends, but they somehow got merged together ...
Anyway, hope that helps, I'm not an expert or anything ... so I hope that you find the information that you're looking for :)

Hey thanks, yeah I was hoping people had more sense than to be worshiping Arthur & Gwenivere as deities since they clearly are not.

KellyP
November 26th, 2005, 09:51 AM
I saw this and was wondering, this is a new pathway isn't it?
http://www.witchvox.com/va/dt_va.htm...=trads&id=4637 (http://www.witchvox.com/va/dt_va.html?a=usny&c=trads&id=4637)
It says they honor Welsh gods but is goddess oriented. I like the myths & legends but as a religion...... Yes, as the article states, The Sisterhood of Avalon is a Celtic Women’s Mysteries Organization founded my Ms. Telyndru in 1988. They are a tradition that focuses on worship of the Goddess through studies of the Arthurian legends and Welsh lore. Their website is located at www.sisterhoodofavalon.org (http://www.sisterhoodofavalon.org/).


Has anyone here heard of anyone practicing an avalonian or arthurian religious path?The subheading “Avalonian or Arthurian” is growing within the tree of neo-Paganism beliefs. In addition to the Sisterhood of Avalon you can find many other groups including the Avalonian Institute of Magickal Arts (www.avalonian-institute.org (http://www.avalonian-institute.org/)) and the Avalon Druid Order (www.avalondruidorder.org (http://www.avalondruidorder.org/)).


I assume those practices would just fall back on the Norse gods when it comes to deity due to the locations.Actually, Nennius and Geoffrey of Monmouth write of Arthur as a Briton hero which fought against the occupying forces of the Angles, Saxons, etc to create a united kingdom.


Hey thanks, yeah I was hoping people had more sense than to be worshiping Arthur & Gwenivere as deities since they clearly are not. Most often, objects of worship should not be subjected to the rules of “logic” or “sense”. If the characters of Arthurian tales form great heroes of a culture then certainly they are worthy of worship every bit as much as so many icons of other cultures.

SageofThyme
December 6th, 2005, 07:01 AM
The closest I've seen to people practising such a path are people who believe in a past life they were in King arthur's life (normanlly as unimportant figures around the court or such like as oppose to anyone you will have heard of) who practise what they have learnt from past life regression etc

Cryptic
April 8th, 2006, 08:13 PM
Since I find Arthurian Legends interesting, while searching for books on this forum, someone recommended the book "Avalon Within" by the founder of Sisterhood of Avalon. I have read two chapters so far and from what I gather so far, the book tries to teach you techniques on how to find "Avalon within" meaning by self discovery, awareness, and healing. I find certain aspects overlapping with meditation, chakras, and 4 seasons, although she uses other terms to describe and explain them. The author also describes ways for women to improve themselves, face fears, and talks about women mysteries.

I have not come across anything as treating Arthur or Gwen as a deity. The author talks briefly about Brigit, but only where she is explaining different goddesses in history.

I am on the Naturalistic Paganism path, but I do find this book very intriguing as well as interesting. I will continue reading the book, and I may apply this tradition to my own if I find that it is for me. So far, I am enjoying the book. I ordered it through Amazon after reading the good reviews. :)

Faia Kokoro
April 21st, 2006, 09:32 PM
I came across that same Witchvox article a while back too, and wondered about it. There's a branch of the group near me so it sparked my interest.

I love all the Avalonian myths and stories, and I've been very into Welsh culture for the past few years (probably because I dated a Welsh guy who opened me up to how amazing it is), I think it's a very interesting path though I agree with what others said above me about not seeing Arthur and such as a God.
To each her, or his own. I'm going to have to pick the book up on it though, should be a very interesting read. I'm pretty eclectic anyway and just tend to incorperate lots of different traditions into my own.

Hærfest Leah
July 22nd, 2006, 12:27 PM
Please see this thread....

http://mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?t=108269

ancestral_lee
July 23rd, 2006, 07:45 AM
ok my take on this...

i dont regard Arthur or Gwen aas gods per se, that said he does appear in early welsh mythology such aas the mabinogion and early welsh literature and poetry. he is raather different to the romantic and chivalrous character he is often portrayed as.

historically speaking there was a warlord who took on aand drove back the saxons around 600AD. this is the 'real' arthur.
after that he would have been incorporated into folk lore and tales and eventually made his way into the broader mythology.

the arthur regardded as a god is more like a mighty dead folk legend. not neccessarily a god but getting there - becoming elevated through time to godhood. like in ceertain european and voudon traditions.

id recommend looking at the early welsh myths and poems and also look at the otheer early arthurian works. then look at scholarly studies of them to ssee how the myths evolved and developed - in this way you will see how he may have taken over the roles of earlieer gods and mythological characteers.

lee