View Full Version : Do you have a bad karmic debt with Scorpio?
laserhazel
November 26th, 2005, 03:25 PM
Do you have a bad karmic debt with Scorpio? If so, what is being done to correct this debt?
Have you seen The Wall, that dude obviously had a bad Karmic Debt with Scorpio and he was suffering for it. Not a lot of people catch that.
A bad karmic debt with Capricorn is probably not as punishing. But what do you think??
Avalonia
November 26th, 2005, 03:30 PM
The whowhatnow?
Sorry, but it just doesn't make any sense to me. This is the first time I've ever seen anything like this, and I'm sure I'm not the only one here.
Bix
November 26th, 2005, 03:32 PM
Yeah, I'm not understanding either...could you explain more?
Kaliel
November 26th, 2005, 03:37 PM
Well, since my HONEST opinion would seriously break the rules of RESPECT on this forum, I'll say this,
I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
In my opinion Karmic Debts are for things that you have done in your life, the way you have acted, the bad things you have done to other people, the neglectful and hurtful things you have done to yourself or others, and they work on a more personal level.
A person simply can't have a karmic debt to pay with a particular astrological sign. Since there is no way we can have a personal (in this context personal would mean human to human) relationship with a constellation, I don't see how one could have a karmic debt to pay to a particular constellation.
What books have you been reading?!
laserhazel
November 26th, 2005, 03:44 PM
A karmic debt is something like when you do something wrong to another person and their ability to forgive you is limited by the degree of the action, in addition to their willigness to forgive.
LostSheep
November 26th, 2005, 03:44 PM
Well as a more or less Scorpio I resent any implication that I'm responsible for anything.
I deny it all and you'll be hearing from my lawyer.
_inabox_
Queenorivers
November 26th, 2005, 03:45 PM
wth? How is that linked to star signs?
Evendusk
November 26th, 2005, 04:57 PM
Well as a more or less Scorpio I resent any implication that I'm responsible for anything.
I deny it all and you'll be hearing from my lawyer.
_inabox_
:lol:
SylverStar
November 26th, 2005, 07:30 PM
I have an ex that is a scorpio...so I would say there's some karmic debt left over from that relationship...but I wouldn't say it's too bad. Actually I've been talking to him again lately...so hopefully we can get back on even ground again. (I assume you are talking about karma from this lifetime)
As far as the signs go...I'm going to boost and say Aquarius (that's my sign...lol) is best to be in debt to, because well more than half the time they've already erased the debt on there part...so you'd be the only one holding on too it.
Cornflake_Girl8
November 27th, 2005, 10:45 AM
But what do you think??
I put Sagittarius. Based on the bad explanation of what this thread is all about, I figured if I wrong a Sag. then I'd most likely be forgiven by this sign. All the other signs are either too moody, high strung, or stubborn (except maybe Libra).
Serendipity
November 27th, 2005, 10:52 AM
:hrmm:
Old Witch
November 27th, 2005, 01:25 PM
Robert Scorpio hasn't been on General Hospital in a very long time and as far as I can remember I don't owe his brother Max Scorpio anything...But now that Robin Scorpio has returned to Port Charles, I may just owe her a dinner......
Bethra
November 27th, 2005, 02:21 PM
I have no idea what you are talking about so I voted with my gut which always tells me it's better not to owe anyone anything it you can help it :D
Xentor
November 27th, 2005, 03:15 PM
A bad karmic debt with Capricorn is probably not as punishing. But what do you think??
Capricorn here. What are you talking about? I'll make your life a living hell when you're in my debt.
(When I feel like it.)
Xentor
November 27th, 2005, 03:19 PM
A karmic debt is something like when you do something wrong to another person and their ability to forgive you is limited by the degree of the action, in addition to their willigness to forgive.
That would make what you're indebted to "a scorpion", not "Scorpio" as a whole. You made it sound like you're indebted to a coincidental star constellation.
KEishin
November 28th, 2005, 09:19 AM
One can try to understand their debt in terms of the energies embodied by what a particular sign represents, but I've never heard of owing something to the constellation itself!
Happy Shrew
November 28th, 2005, 10:46 AM
A bad karmic debt with Capricorn is probably not as punishing.
I agree with Xentor. We Capricorns are real jerks. That Saturnine influence just screams lawsuit.
I can't help but think that a Gemini would forget what the big fuss was all about. :D
AstralMoth
November 29th, 2005, 04:36 AM
Im so glad I'm not in debt to a scorpion, if I ever did hallucinogenics again I'd spend the whole time looking under things incase he came back to collect.
Temptation
November 29th, 2005, 10:21 AM
I voted Gemini. They forget everything! :lol:
laserhazel
December 1st, 2005, 07:37 PM
I like what has been said about Aquarius, it does make sense, it's sort of like the water bearer bears no grudges and that this signs natural tendency to bring positivity to their environment and those they come into contact with makes them the most logical choice in my opinion.
Personally, I am a Capricorn with an Aries moon and Taurus ascendant. I am easy to owe a debt to, I never let one slide but I never pressure it's repayment.
My chart is almost identical to Al Capone's which makes me careful not to act like he would have concerning debts and other things.
I am surprised that Sagitarius was mentioned, but it makes sense, all Sagitarians I know are very kind and considerate.
What about virgo, they seem to need protection in some areas of the astral scheme..are they the ones most likely to be taken advantage of?
Cornflake_Girl8
December 1st, 2005, 08:39 PM
What about virgo, they seem to need protection in some areas of the astral scheme..are they the ones most likely to be taken advantage of?
I sincerely believe that Cancers are most at risk. They're the moodiest sign and can easily crawl back into their shell for defenses, but they also wear their heart on their sleeve.
I speak from experience. Plus, all the cancers I have ever known have been the nicest people. Moody, but pushovers really.
Happy Shrew
December 2nd, 2005, 02:45 AM
My parents are Virgos and they don't take crap from ANYONE.
Sage Rainsong
December 2nd, 2005, 07:51 AM
A lot of books tend to portray Scorpios as these evil or potentially evil people. I think that karmic debt( I hate that word because it makes karma sound like some kind of bank account) based on a star sign is total crap. We have all met people down on their luck of all signs so I don't believe that Scorpios are somehow more prone to bad things (or any other sign fot that matter.
Verthandi
December 3rd, 2005, 01:23 AM
Plus, all the cancers I have ever known have been the nicest people. Moody, but pushovers really.
I'm a Cancer, but I'm far from a pushover. I'm stubborn and I don't shy away from confrontations.
As far as karmic debt goes, there is no such thing. Karma is a neutral force that influences your next life. If I went against my dharma and committed genocide, I'd probably come back as a very low lifeform--cockroach, maybe--but I wouldn't be indebted to anyone, even the victims.
ewok
December 3rd, 2005, 02:33 AM
I agree with Xentor. We Capricorns are real jerks. That Saturnine influence just screams lawsuit.
I can't help but think that a Gemini would forget what the big fuss was all about. :D
we resent that remark senator!!!
twice the karmic debt at twice the fun..you will be paying that off for a VERY long time.. :hailmol: :fprisoner :seehearsp
*confused look* what was it i was rambling on about?..leaves the thread..
laserhazel
December 3rd, 2005, 07:55 PM
In my life I have studied various signs and people that were completely opposed to astrology because of Christian fundamentals which provided the aire of being opposed to anything relating to a scientific study of human nature due to a fear of proving evolution as opposed to the creation story in The Bible.
Scorpio, is tame, kind, and intelligent. Scorpio is the sign though that is often easy to hurt and becomes so enclosed that the entire world becomes a darkened misery. To hurt a Scorpio is to cause a person to withdraw into an isolation which is unapproachable, and dangerous.
On the other hand, if a person can avoid the stings, a Scorpion can become an invaluable friend capable of eliminating all enemies.
As I have said, I am a Capricorn, I have been trying to see the difference between Scorpions and Scorpion Fish. Scorpion Fish apparently do not receive enough respect in this area.
Philosophia
December 3rd, 2005, 08:23 PM
I'm a scorpio, so if you have karmic debt with me you'll know about it. I'm no push over, stubborn, easily angered (though I don't get offended easily, usually I'm more amused) and I do have a memory for revenge. :muwaha:
From what I know about myself and other Scorpio's, don't take us lightly nor try to sweet talk us. We can see through anybody's BS.
Cornflake_Girl8
December 4th, 2005, 09:50 AM
I'm a Cancer, but I'm far from a pushover. I'm stubborn and I don't shy away from confrontations.
You're the first Cancer I've ever heard say that. My friend and I avoid confrontations like the plague. She's a pushover and if you try to push me, that's when I'll be confrontational as my defenses go up. As for being stubborn....yeah....we're both very stubborn. =)
HetHert
December 4th, 2005, 10:42 AM
I put Sagittarius. Based on the bad explanation of what this thread is all about, I figured if I wrong a Sag. then I'd most likely be forgiven by this sign. All the other signs are either too moody, high strung, or stubborn (except maybe Libra).
As a Sag I can tell you...your probably right...we forgive if you'd just party with us. :fprtyman2
My Moms a Scorpio and she forgives, but she does NOT forget. But as a Mother, Scorpio's are great protectors...I learned all my deviousness from her. They are hyper passionate people when the cause for it arises. I believe they are prone to depression and anxiety..I have to agree that it really appears to be hard to be a Scorpio, so much luv, but always the world is throwing curve balls.
My husbands a Capricorn and all they want is the Captains Chair. Karmically I think Capricorns have a built in Christ complex that keeps them paid in full. I say that in the most lovingest way. They give and give and give to the extreme that they wear themselves into the ground. Gotta luv a Capi with the Capi-pants (Captain's pants). :) I luv Capies
Xentor
December 4th, 2005, 11:06 AM
My husbands a Capricorn and all they want is the Captains Chair. Karmically I think Capricorns have a built in Christ complex that keeps them paid in full. I say that in the most lovingest way. They give and give and give to the extreme that they wear themselves into the ground.
Yup. This Cap agrees totally.
LostSheep
December 4th, 2005, 12:28 PM
Scorpio, is tame, kind, and intelligent. Scorpio is the sign though that is often easy to hurt and becomes so enclosed that the entire world becomes a darkened misery. To hurt a Scorpio is to cause a person to withdraw into an isolation which is unapproachable, and dangerous.
On the other hand, if a person can avoid the stings, a Scorpion can become an invaluable friend capable of eliminating all enemies.
darkened misery .... I like that phrase ... I'm quite flattered (as a Scorp/Sag cusp who feels mainly Scorp) that we have this kind of reputation ... I dunno if it's accurate or not, but at least it makes us interesting .....
argento_occhi
December 5th, 2005, 08:48 AM
Scorpio, is tame, kind, and intelligent. Scorpio is the sign though that is often easy to hurt and becomes so enclosed that the entire world becomes a darkened misery. To hurt a Scorpio is to cause a person to withdraw into an isolation which is unapproachable, and dangerous.
On the other hand, if a person can avoid the stings, a Scorpion can become an invaluable friend capable of eliminating all enemies.
OMG, you just described one of my characters exactly. O.O I'm beginning to see this astrology has some weird uncanny accuracy to it, even if the whole planets affecting us thing still doesn't stick.
Argent
God
January 3rd, 2006, 08:51 PM
I too am a capricorn, in fact laserhazel and my self share the same birthday. I am not easy to owe a debt to, except maybe a karmic debt, if there is such a thing.
Much like laserhazel, I believe that Aquarius is likely to be the best to owe a karmic debt to, but when it comes to finances and keeping a person honest, I hate make the charts right, but Gemini is the best to owe a debt to. They never forget it, but they never lose the air of absolute professionalism concerning it.
In this high paced world, a karmic debt does include a "this lifetime" frame of reference, the reason is that some, in fact several people believe that it is up to this lifetime to clear the karmic debts of past lifetimes, instead of just giving up and praying that the next incarnation is a human manifest instead of a cockroach or snail or earthworm.
Aidron
January 3rd, 2006, 09:00 PM
Scorpio, is tame, kind, and intelligent.
The sign of scorpio has no inherent associations with intelligence. Kind? Scorpio can be a gentle and giving sign. Tame? What have you been smoking? Scorpio is the sign of extremes. :eyebrow:
Frankly, I don't know precisely what is even being discussed in this thread. You certainly aren't making much sense to me, but in the end I doubt I would agree with it. I don't believe in karma and thus I don't believe in karmic debt. If I did, I certainly would not link it to astrology.
Serendipity
January 7th, 2006, 01:03 PM
And going against the grain, I would choose a scropio.
There isn't another sign I get along with better than a scorp and if I had some crazy karmic debt to pay, I'd want it to be to someone I could at least be friendly with along the way.
The worst, for me, would be a Libra. I've met only one Libra that didn't try to chew me up and spit me out for lunch, well, at first anyway. It still ended badly.
God
January 7th, 2006, 03:38 PM
Every Libra I have ever been acquainted with was/is very loving and kind, sort of that they are treated like Scorpios, with fear and misunderstanding.
Of course, I've never been able to or tried to make one mad.
Whitewolf
January 7th, 2006, 10:53 PM
I'd choose Scorpio [since I am one, I tend to be biased].
-Jessica [aka Whitewolf]
laserhazel
January 10th, 2006, 08:29 PM
I didn't read that Scorpio was intellectual from any book. I have learned that from years of studying people.
As for tame, that is like saying someone is in a good mood right now. They may or may not be in an hour. I say Scorpio is tame so she won't sting me again.
It is a long time in a cold place.
~*Ginger*~
January 10th, 2006, 09:07 PM
A karmic debt is something like when you do something wrong to another person and their ability to forgive you is limited by the degree of the action, in addition to their willigness to forgive.
hmmm...
Well, I'd suppose it would depend alot upon the shade that dwells within them...
People, no matter their 'sun sign', are at different levels, and always changing.
some are in the higher vibrations of their signs, and some are in the lower vibrations of their signs.
some Pisces would forgive and forget, almost instantly.
other's would smite you, in the most creative, and secretive ways, and leave you wondering What/whoTF.
They can shift, from one, to the other in speeds that would blow an Aries mind.
And they usually have the strangest ways of disappearing, when you think, you know just where they are.
In fact, they are usually so good, as to be standing there (unseen), and you not even know it...
(so if you've ever placed yourself in karmic debt to a Pisces, it would perhaps be wise to wonder about that sweet innocent smile) :D
I think it's possible that this may be true of other signs as well, just in their own individual ways...
Who is best to be indebted to?
A dead man perhaps...
But then you have to worry about their family & friends.
Best to do, the best possible, not to be indebted.
And if indebted, well, anty up...
laserhazel
January 18th, 2006, 10:14 PM
Are you a pisces ??
AlAskendir
January 19th, 2006, 12:20 AM
A lot of books tend to portray Scorpios as these evil or potentially evil people. I think that karmic debt( I hate that word because it makes karma sound like some kind of bank account) based on a star sign is total crap. We have all met people down on their luck of all signs so I don't believe that Scorpios are somehow more prone to bad things (or any other sign fot that matter.
Sooo, do you feel that signs have tendencies for anyting? IE, Do you agree with the premise of astrology at all, and if not, why would you have an opinion on the question?
AlAskendir
January 19th, 2006, 12:35 AM
I find that idea that someone in the instant before doing harm to someone else would hesitate to find out what sign they were and adjust his/her behavior appropriately, intensely ludcrous.
Being a Scorpio and knowing myself to a certain extent, I would counsel against harming me for no particular reason - - - but I would also counsel against harming ANYONE for no particular reason.
If anything, I feel that more Scorpios are cursed with what I call a sense of irony, which is similar to the sense of humor. The test is, if you watch a movie and the villain dies in a particularly gory way as a result of applying her/ his own 'weapons' or 'ways of doing things' to him/ her, and you burst out laughing, and almost everyone in the theater glares at you in a way that shows how repulsed they are, then yeah, you've got it.
When someone harms a Scorpio, his/her thoughts immediately turn to revenge as if revenge were some kind of high art, contemplating and planning out in detail the redress, trying for the greatest degree of irony.....
Happy Shrew
January 19th, 2006, 12:54 AM
Are you a pisces ??
*gasp* He remotely viewed your profile!
CheshireEyes
May 12th, 2006, 02:25 PM
I put Sagittarius. Based on the bad explanation of what this thread is all about, I figured if I wrong a Sag. then I'd most likely be forgiven by this sign. All the other signs are either too moody, high strung, or stubborn (except maybe Libra).
And you would be correct!!! Aren't Sagittarians great!!! Such well rounded individuals, kind, forgiving, loving, need I go on....
Yes, this is my horn and I am tooting it.... hehehe
:lol:
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