John Edward

[Laiste]

Just curious as to what people think of him. I, personally like his sort of obnoxious mannerism...and I believe that he is legit.

[seawitch]

my opinion.

[ReverendAJS]

talented charlatan. he can read a person like a book, not in the psychic way, but he is a keen observer of the human mind, as the saying goes.

[Danustouch]

I have watched his show almost every night for as long as he's been on Sci Fi. I have tried to see how he could be making it up, or being a charlatan. Sometimes, he comes out with details that are SO off the wall, and out there, things that are so small, and so personal, I don't see how he could possibly be a charlatan.

The times that he is wrong, i excuse. Because how many of us have done Tarot readings, or some other form of devination, and we read them wrong? It happens. You can't be right on, all of the time. It's impossible. I think he's the real deal.

[Mooncrow]

he let's the mark choose himself

[Kristin Ann]

Both myself and my roommate watch Crossing Over daily and are both in the of the opinion that he's the real deal.

I get a really good vibe from him and apparently a lot of people do. Did you know that the waiting list to get on his show right now is 3 years?

Love & light always,
Kristin Ann

[Xois]

I love the show...legit or not...sometimes if fun to be freaked out! :D

[Xois]

or how about the time he was reading the parking lot attendant who wasn't even on the set, but rather BEHIND the set

maybe a setup...but its still cool!

[mol]

I will say this...he sure is charismatic.

I just love to watch him and hear him talk.

[Demeter]

Talented Charlatan.

That waiting period gives him lots of time to research the people in the audience. Then, when they get in, he keeps his audience waiting for hours before the show. Every single chair is wired. Mixed into the audience are his employees, who sit there and chat with the audience. And what do they talk about? What else? The loved ones they hope to contact. The show is not filmed all in one shot; he keeps running back and forth between shots to get updates from his staff. Then he does that buckshot delivery which is bound to get some reaction from somewhere -- enough guesses and he's bound to be right, then follows up with more guesses from there.

The pity of it is, I do believe the man is talented. One-on-one, and sometimes even on the show, he can be so dead on it's amazing. I believe he does have a gift. But because, like so many psychic gifts, it is not the most reliable thing in the world, he fills in with research, patter, guesses, and stagecraft.

[Danustouch]

Demeter, how do you know that the bugging, and the planting of his staff in the audience is how it works? Has anyone ever proven it?

And I was under the impression, that the waiting list for his show, was merely for the one on one interviews, not the gallery.

I'd love to see him live. I'd be smart enough to keep my mouth shut ahead of time, not speak to anyone about who I wanted to be contacted.

And how about the number of people who are absolutely freaked out when he contacts someone they hadn't thought about, or talked to , or talked about, in ages? Like someones great, great erma, who was estranged from the family for years? Or someone's high school friend from years ago? Could his research assistants really be that good? To know every individual anyone has ever met? And the people planted in the audience, by your assertion, Well....that just doesn't add up. The planted staff might overhear so and so talking about their grandfather, whom they hope to contact, or their deceased spouse, but when John says.."Who is Patrick?" and patrick happens to be their next door neighbor who died of Leukemia when they were six years old, how could he possibly be being informed by the "Planted Staff", about something as random as that?

Or..the cases where he says..."Yes..Patrick. He's talking about the snoopy keychain that you gave him in third grade". Now..if they weren't talking about them, at any point, which, let's face it, why WOULD they? How would he know such details.

Now..my only question about John Edwards, is IS he talking to the spirits of people who have passed on? Or..is he tapping into the subject of his interview's subconcious memories? It's entirely possible that maybe he ISNT talking to the other side, but picking up on the persons subconcious memories of their loved ones. In any case, either situation...I would say he's VERY gifted at SOME form of ESP.

[Laiste]

Danustouch,

From what John Edward has explained about how what he does works I feel he is getting the information from three sides he has contact with the person who has passed while partially tapping into the subconcious of the person he is reading for and he is also tapping into his own subconcious...he says the images he gets from those who have passed are images from his own life, past and present.

I really don't understand why so many people have a problem with believing that there are individuals out there who posses a remarkable ability, whether that ability can read the past, future or both. Isn't that our intention everytime we cast the runes or read tarot cards or any other type of divination?

I have a friend who had a reading with John Edward many years before his show was even thought of...he knew so much about her life and her son who had passed just a year before the reading. There was no show, no audience, no props and no research to explain it away.

[Danustouch]

I agree Laiste. I have absolutely NO problem believing in things which are beyond my explanation. Whether he's really getting these images from the other side, from someone's subconcious, or his...I don't know..I don't need to know. I think it's amazing. I think it's the real deal, whatever it is, it's authentic, and true..and it brings peace and comfort to people. So in my opinion...he's a great guy!

[Adrenaline Junkie]

I think he's the real deal.

[Arduinna]

I've seen him live in person and not on his show. I went to the Journey of the Souls seminar in October that was in Anaheim Ca.

All I can say was that he read many people, this was a very large audience and I'm sure he couldn't even see some of the folks he was reading for in the back. I find it very hard to believe that the whole thing was set up.

Either you believe it or ya don't, period.

[stormyray]

I think he is a truly amazing man. I also belive he is the real deal. I would love to meet the man in person and pick his brain for a while.

[Old Witch]

I believe.

[Demeter]

http://www.sciam.com/2001/0801issue/0801skeptic.html

Check this out. There's more where it came from. I haven't even looked to see what Randi's saying about it.

I feel bad that a man with what is probably a genuine talent (he is either actually a medium or is possibly empathic/telepathic enough to pick up things from his audience) has to pad it out with carnival tricks of the type used by faith healers and the Amazing Kreskin and Uri Geller.

[Laiste]

Well if it is not possible to communicate with the dead then I must be one crazy witch!!!:scream: And there are a lot of other crazies running around with me!

I read the article and I'm sorry but I just can't listen to one persons opinion and change my mind about this issue. Some of the points made in the article were valid but obviously the author does not watch the show on a regular basis. My friends sister (my friend commited suicide)was on just last week and she had a good reading from him...I watched the show and was amazed about the things he knew. I was watching and felt like he was doing the reading for me as well because I knew what he was talking about and the people he was refering too!

[Arduinna]

Demeter, the link you posted is one persons opinion, and not even an origional one.

What "truth" is in this guys opinion????

[UlricDagon]

I think he has a talent but I don’t know if he is communicating with the dead or he is just reading into someone’s mind. Most mediums that I know wait for a person to open themselves up to them and from there they are able to read into the person.

Can he communicate with the dead? - I don’t think so

Can he communicate within someone’s mind once they open themselves up to him - MOST DEFENITLY!!


The man has a talent there is no denying that but in what capacity you would have to experience for yourselves.

The amazing this about us is we believe what we want and there is no one in the world that should change it!

[Danustouch]

The "Tricks" this man describes, are used by some unethical readers. But..John Edward doesn't fit these things. I've carefully watched for such things to pop up. He doesn't ALWAYS say something about jewlery. I mean..sometimes, he'll pop up with..."Yes, the person is telling me to remind you about the time that you burned the soufflee before the wedding party". Now..how could he know something as out there as that? Or..he'll ask..."Do you have a painting of a ballerina in your bedroom, that you got from your grandmother?". And even if the person says no..he won't immediately change topics, he'll stick to it doggedly. So I don't believe this writers assertions that John is a hoax.

[Semele]

I love him. Watch him every day and am always amazed...well ok not amazed necessarily but inspired. my take on the whole thing is just like my take on the Phoneline Phsycics and what not. If they are making people feel good, then what harm is there? So, maybe he really didn't get a message from Uncle Bernie and he read your energy or his researchers dug it up...but either way he told you he got the message and uncle bernie forgives you for...whatever. You leave a happy person with a little lighter spirit. Life is good....

Also I think he is adorable!!

[UlricDagon]

Is here the link to an expanded story on the one that demeter posted.

I am not saying this is true just printing entire story




http://www.skeptic.com/newsworthy13.html

[Danustouch]

I agree with you semele. Even if he weren't the real deal, which I personally think he is....I'd still give him a thumbs up! He's bringing comfort to people who desperately need it. You can see it written all over their faces. And ..for those who come away with questions about things he brought up..all the better! They'll probably reach out to more family members, who they don't normally speak to, to find out more. Or maybe, they'll begin tracing their family roots a bit more, or start thinking of loved ones that they hadn't thought of in a while. In any way shape or form, I think they are getting what they pay for :)

And yes..he is adorable.

Great Buns! Oops!

[lucidfire]

I too think he's legit. I think it's more work to try and disprove him.

I've watched how he works, and find it interesting that what he does can't have anything to do with esp because he'll say things that the people themselves have forgotten, they'll be like "you're wrong" then a day later it ends up being right.

It takes an aweful lot to convince people too; I think it's pretty remarkable what he does. It's weird though, some people are so intent to disbelieve that I could picture them "crossing over" themselves and being in denial like "no I can't be dead, because if I was dead I couldn't be me!"

if anything though, the show's fun to watch, and relatively harmless

[TheWordWitch]

for nearly a year now, every night, Mon-Thurs and Sundays.

In the beginning days, I could tell very easily when JE was giving a legitimate reading in the Gallery and when he was using the schill techniques described in the Skeptic's column. You could visually watch JE's facial reations when the victim wouldn't cooperate.

The staff at Crossing Over has gone from second rate tradesmen just doing their job, to high paid, high falutin' spin doctor's who monitor and edit the show to pieces.

And THAT is why JE is now having difficulty. If the staff had just let things lie - shown the mistakes as well as the hits - the show would be so much better.

I've had the ability to read people for some time. It used to come unbidden, and was so annoying - but now as an adult, I am able to control when it comes. And isn't it interesting that JE didn't start his career as a Medium until he was in his late 20's, early 30's?? maybe that's how the Goddess plans it.

Anyway, networks and ratings hype will be the death of JE. In their misguided attempt to profit from JE's gift, they will ultimately give the Skeptics the ammunition they need to shoot JE's gift right out of the sky.

But isn't that the first thing we (those of us raised as witches) are taught about our gifts? You can not ever ever ever ever ever use your talent for Magick and Psychic ability for your own personal gain.

[alyssa141]

I think he's real.
my mom practically swears by him. and really in the first place, if he didn't have some talent, then why would he get his own show? (ratings is the first thing that pops up in my mind, but who knows?)
there are others out there that share his talent, but most like to keep it to themselves, atleast, that's been my experience with people like that.
i don't know.. but i guess people can have their own opinion on him!

[seawitch]

i don't know, but i have been home a couple days dreadfully sick.so i have been watching day time t.v.
and i noticed his show is sandwitched between jerry springer.
( who i personaly can't stand,) and some other show i found reprehensible. making fun of peoples, stupidity. and their heart ache. that stuff dosen't bring me a lot pleasure.
i don't have any dislike for the man , but i hate to see people prayed apon. in their times of suffering :mad:
he seems to be making some people happy, but he is making a very good wage for what he is doing. and i wonder about the ethics on that one. i belive people should recieve a small wage. to support them selfs comfortably. but often times greed takes over. even the best of men and women
sorry for carrying on:zzz:

[Radocs]

I don't believe in him, simple as that. From reading the other replies to this thread I've gathered that explaining WHY I think he's a fake is rather pointless, so I'll leave it at that.

[Myst]

I don't watch it and don't know if he's legitimate.

I do know that channelling and communicating with spirits is very real, and have seen Pagan friends do it in front of me, so I'm not skeptical.

[seawitch]

Originally posted by Radocs
I don't believe in him, simple as that. From reading the other replies to this thread I've gathered that explaining WHY I think he's a fake is rather pointless, so I'll leave it at that.



nuff said. very well put

[flar7]

Originally posted by seawitch




nuff said. very well put


ditto

[alyssa141]

*i belive people should recieve a small wage. to support them selfs comfortably. but often times greed takes over. even the best of men and women *

I agree. people with that type of ability shouldn't expect to get paid for it. and to me if they get paid a lot of money for it, it just gives skeptics another reason to believe they're fake. atleast, that's my opinion.