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Trithemius
December 1st, 2005, 09:49 PM
Has anyone heard of the connection between the Dover Demon and the Mannegishi of Cree Indian mythology? The mannegishi are described as being humanoid in appearance, small, with thin arms and legs. They have six fingers on each hand, and large, bald, rounded heads with big eyes and no nose. The Cree believe the mannegishi to be tricksters who enjoy playing pranks on humans.

The Dover Demon is described as being small, humanoid, with thin arms and legs, a large, watermelon shaped hairless head with no nose or mouth, and glowing green or orange eyes.

For anyone not familiar with the Dover Demon story, here's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dover_Demon) a pretty thorough account.

There's also this (http://www.rense.com/general53/chile.htm) photo from Chile that a lot of you may have seen of a small creature crossing a road between two horse riders. Many people consider it to be a photograph of an alien, but it matches the descriptions of both the Dover Demon and the mannegishi.

What do you think? Could the creature in the photo and the Dover Demon actually be the mannegishi of Cree legend?

scorpiochick77
December 1st, 2005, 10:13 PM
I saw something like that on unsolved mysteries but i think it was called a chupacondra or something like that. I was thinking it was in puerto rico though. Could this be the same thing?

Trithemius
December 1st, 2005, 10:32 PM
Probably not. The descriptions of the chupacabra, while varying from one witness to the next, don't come close to matching the description of the Dover Demon. The chupacabra seems to be most commonly reported as being anywhere from 3 to 5 feet tall, bipedal, lizardlike to the point of being almost dinosaurian, with spines down the back, and a protruding jaw and mouth.

Laisrean
December 6th, 2005, 02:42 AM
A lot of the supernatural beings we hear about on the paranormal books and tv shows have origins in native american folklore... Bigfoot, for example, was known to the natives of the Pacific northwest for hundreds or even thousands of years.

But my problem with the Dover Demon story is that it originated from a sci-fi buff and a pot smoker. I mean, that doesn't mean it didn't happen, but it casts serious doubt on the credibility of the story.

dademan
December 7th, 2005, 10:12 PM
I have to agree with Laisrean.

And that picture, its hard to tell weather it is in fact real or not. ANd I mean, the 1st picture is in black and white, then it just turns to Color!

And then theres in the 2nd photo, it looks like there is a fence, wherein the 1st picture, theres no fence, only light poles.

MelMullooly
December 7th, 2005, 10:20 PM
is that the same thing as the jersey devil?

Dio
December 7th, 2005, 10:23 PM
Why do all supposed supernatural photos happen to be blurry like that? It's too hard to tell what that actually is....if it's anything at all. It's a blob. And....?

dademan
December 7th, 2005, 10:46 PM
is that the same thing as the jersey devil?


Not -nearly- the same thing as the Jersey Devil.

Trithemius
December 8th, 2005, 08:54 AM
The Dover Demon case is a weird one. Laisrean is right. Everything about the witnesses says "hoax." They were all teenagers, they all knew each other, the first one was a sci-fi fan, there are questions as to whether they talked to each other before giving their individual descriptions, the kids' stories changed from one interview to the next, and some of the teachers from their school said the kids were reliable, good kids, others said they were troublemakers. Despite all of that, and after continuing to study the case for years, the original investigators are to this day convinced the kids were telling the truth. I do think it's interesting that no one has been able to find a creature from any sci-fi story bearing a resemblance to what the kids reported, but their description matches the mannegishi almost perfectly. Unless they were aware of the mannegishi legend and decided to have some fun and make up a cock-and-bull story, and everyone who looked into it only focused on the UFO and sci-fi possibilities.

The picture from Chile should be treated as suspect if for no other reason than because it's a digital image. I don't trust any digital paranormal pictures. It's too easy to play with photoshop. It's still an interesting picture though, just because of its resemblance to the Dover Demon rather than something more recognizable as a "standard" (ie. gray) alien, if the photographer was trying to fake an alien picture.

And that picture, its hard to tell weather it is in fact real or not. ANd I mean, the 1st picture is in black and white, then it just turns to Color!

Keep in mind that it's a digital image, not film, and you can easily switch a color pic to black and white in photoshop. I've seen photographers do this in order to help clarify something in a photo when it's difficult to make out due to the colors blending together and obscuring the image.