got a great bumper sticker

[Sephiroth]

i got an awsome bumper sticker in the mail. today its matchs my t-shirt.


ppl should have guns outlawed and swords instated

[Sephiroth]

i think guns should be outlawed so i agree the sword is a much better weapon anyway only a cowerd hides behind a gun but a man/warrior is ready with the blade.

[flar7]

when it comes to killing. A sword is as bad as a gun. I dont have
anything against guns, just wish people were more careful with
them. Edumacation is the key to firearm safety.

I have been on both ends of a gun, both took guts. And I have
been on both ends of a knife, same feeling. Terms like cowardice
and bravery are used to help people feel better about killing or to
feel worse about it. It takes alot of (?) to pull the trigger, and I
wasnt able to(did run em off though, finally)

Maybe to be brave, it should be barehanded? But then you have
the strong preying on the weak, or the educated(martial Arts)
taking advantage of the uneducated. (most martial arts students
wouldnt do that though. least not the ones I know.)

[MammaStar]

Originally posted by flar7
Maybe to be brave, it should be barehanded? But then you havethe strong preying on the weak, or the educated(martial Arts)taking advantage of the uneducated. (most martial arts studentswouldnt do that though. least not the ones I know.)

Yep, you're right Flar, any self respecting Martial Arts student would not take advantage of someone, becasue they felt they were the "stronger" one. Part of the Creed at my son's Kung Fu school states: "I will fight to protect myself or the lives of others."

As for the gun/sword thing. Well, I get a chuckle. Maybe kinda callous, or maybe I'm just wayyyyyy too caught up in the LOTR frenzy right now. :eek:

[Darius Asgaroth]

I agree that swords should be made the weapon most commonly used again I believe killing with a gun is just wrong.

[MidnightSun]

I believe killing with anything is wrong. I personally have nothing against guns..its the reckless people who kill..not the guns. If people took a class or a few classes on gun safety..we'd all be better off.

[Darius Asgaroth]

I study to fight. So I have to think of these things.

[Sephiroth]

Originally posted by Darius Asgaroth
I agree that swords should be made the weapon most commonly used again I believe killing with a gun is just wrong.

i agree with u.

im not saying that killing is good or anything. sorry if i made u all think that, but i think the gun thing was just stretched to far. like during wars or battles a sword can be justs as leathal, but yet it can also be gentler than a gun.i didnt join ninjitsu and ninjutsu classes to harm other ppl i took them for the spiritual refinement and the training to protect friends and family. but ur right in a way a true warroir doesnt need a weapon to over come his/her opponent he/she need is a open heart.

i too was on both sides of a gun and of a sword.(never killed anyone) yet. i was more scare behind a gun than i was infront of the gun. but im a peace when im handling a sword or if a sword is used against me.

[phoenixsong]

Guns are banned here (Ireland) anyway, in general. Even the cops don't usually have them

[Adrenaline Junkie]

Here, in good old Canada (eh?) gun laws are strictly enforced. All guns have to be registered and confirmed with the government. They also have to be locked up properly or ina proper storage unit.

But there are those bad apples who have guns, unregistered.

[Scipeno]

It does not matter what you use. There are still the same enegery behind the actions if it is with a bat or sword or gun.
There is no more honur in killing with a sword then a gun because there is no honur in either one. We may fight and go to war to defend ourselfs but then the point is to win. Not waste your soldiers to see who fights better.

[Sephiroth]

Originally posted by Adrenaline Junkie
But there are those bad apples who have guns, unregistered.


u would by chance be one of those bad apples are u?:confused: :confused: lol

[SilentWolf]

I don't even really like guns. But I feel we shouldn't blame the guns themselves for all the killings. The ignorant ones who just go and shoot someone when theres a problem, those are what we need outlawed.

I mean, if you want to fight someone, go ahead and fight. But pulling out a gun and shooting someone, most of the times the victim isn't armed in any way, it's a cowards way of fighting.

But outlawing guns would also hurt the many responsible gun owners.

[SilentWolf]

Originally posted by Sephiroth



u would by chance be one of those bad apples are u?:confused: :confused: lol

I don't know about bad apples.
I got a bunch of sour grapes though. :whoa:

[Sephiroth]

im in a group of gung-ho combat phyco paths right now

im not feeling to safe. i was on a plane with them all the way to alaska. 27 hours with myself and 8 others packing guns on a plane. no terrorist would dare show his face on the plane if there was one. one advantage of bing an mp

[Kahlan]

I think the sword thing is right... its easy just to push a button and take a life, but with a sword you have that time in which ones inner- better self may kick in and say "You REALLY shouldn't do this!" A gun sperates you from the death, but the physical effort in killing someone with a sword also may make it more real, like you ARE KILLING SOMEONE! (Get what I mean?)
On top of that, who can out run a bullet ( I am not talking X-Men here) aganst a gun a person has almost no chance, but at least with a sword you can run away! You have a better chance of living at any rate!

[sherry]

I personally enjoy target shooting and have no doubt I would use it to protect my self and my family!!I was lucky to be raised in a home with guns, where safety around fire arms was strictly inforced as was if you broke the rules you were punished by parents that did not live in fear of us turning them into the police!!

I am only 38 years old and have no idea where everything went wrong. we knew the rules and knew what would follow if they were broken. we knew that a punishment was deserved if you broke the rules and to call the police on your parents was not an option!

Don't get me wrong my parents were never into child abuse they just knew they were not going to be the reason monsters and delinquents were on the street they had laws and knew the state and federal ones and we were raised to know what we were allowed to do!! This was followed by most of us going into the military or college or both and starting our families and we are all raising families with the same values we were raised with!

"Harm None" was always a #1 rule and when growing up in a family where both parents were also born with special gift and the craft was the "NORM' you just know what you can and cant get away with

[xjsjaglvr]

Regardless of how you feel about guns, weapons, killing, etc. Remember that there are people out there who have no compulsion about these things. Man is a toolmaker, and weapons are just another of mans tools. Most guns are used in a correct manner, hunting or for protection. It is only when they are used incorrectly that people become upset. The kneejerk reaction is to ban them all, yet this is "throwing out the baby with the bath water". Rather, punish those who use them incorrectly. As for the sword/gun/martial arts thing....the idea is to win the fight, there are many noble, couragous fighters who are dead and buried because the other guy had better weapons. For those of you who have never been in the military or in a real fight the idea is to make the other guy die.
Jag

[gunner]

tsk, tsk, and here it is yule/christmas. actually there are some interesting comments here and rather more courtesty and thought than i commonly see in the same debate in the "muggle" world. there is a basic problem with the "ban them all" approach, once a thing has been invented, particularly as basically simple a device as a gun it cannot be "uninvented". the knowledge is out there, someone will use it and any decently equipped machine shop can turn out a crude but workable gun. (e.g. the "sten gun" of world war 2 fame, not as nicely finished as the thompsons we shipped to england when they needed anything that would shoot but quite up to the work of killing germans and if memory serves at one point the manufacturing cost was down to $9.00 u.s. each.) too for all of its misuse "the gun" is neutral. it is a machine, with no "character" but what we ascribe to it. no inherent good or evil. "british guns" oppressed ireland, "irish guns" won ireland's freedom but both were in the hands of men and in many cases the same lee-enfield rifles and webley revolvers that served the british were stolen by the i.r.a. to serve ireland. and the same in the larger world. a gun in the hands of a physically weaker but determined woman can make her the equal of a 250 lb. 6 foot thug as is demonstrated almost daily here in states where law-abiding folk are permitted to carry guns. (as someone has pointed out the "outlaws" have and carry guns regardless of law.) the problem with the sword regardless of any mystique about it is that it is a strong man's weapon, ask any s.c.a. fighter, the sword is not kind to those lacking muscle and endurance. i might even suggest that our ideals of individual liberty were born with the gun that made the lowliest peasant as effective in battle as his lords, you cannot oppress a man who can kill you and is willing to do so at any hazard.

[gunner]

"farewell romance, the soldier spoke,
by skill of sword we may not win
but scuffle 'neath the unclean smoke
of arquebus and culverin.
honor is lost and none can tell
who gave good blows, romance farewell"
rudyard kipling