Child Molester Survives Jail Stabbing

[9-2-2]

http://www.kake.com/news/headlines/2073826.html

Click on the streaming video link. I'm going to make this quick because I'm about to go to work.

The events that preceded this stabbing are a little close to home. The victim, Jason Olson, lived in Wichita, KS, prior to being arrested for criminal sodomy of a then six-year old boy - my fiance's son, Tyler.

Jason Olson is the obese roomate I had described in another thread (http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?t=78753). Before the crime, he has had lots of psychological problems involving online gaming addiction, overeating, and suicidal depression. He's seen a psychologist before, but we suspected that he wasn't telling the shrinks the entire truth about what was going on.

We have weekly visitation of Tyler, who on this board would be Dark Orion's son. He was six at the time. Once we learned what had happened, Jason couldn't be immediately arrested for obscure legal reasons (concerning arrests made on the property, etc). My fiance and I were both questioned by a detective on this case, and I did what I could to help the case against such a disgusting child rapist.

In jail, he was stabbed in the chest 9 times and left for dead, and his cries for help weren't heard for 30 minutes. The doctors that treated him said that his enormous bulk had saved him.

I had refrained from posting about this on MW at the time of the offense because it's a sensitive subject. Keep in mind, that the Jason in the video is 5 times thinner and cleaner than when he was once living with us.

Jason Olson is going to be spending 5 years at a maximum security prison. I, personally, feel that the time should extend to the rest of his life... I don't want him running around when Tyler is 12.

[DragonsChest]

Shame he survived.

[phoenixblayze]

Shame he survived.

agreed

[ObsessedFae86]

OMG....That's terrible..He deserves life!

[smckim]

Shame he survived.
I second that!!!!!!!!! Maybe they will do a better job next time! I have no tolerance, or sympathy for child molesters and people who harm animals, they are the scum of the earth!_tsk_

[Laisrean]

Yeah, pedophiles and child molesters are at the bottom of the social hierarchy in prisons. He might be there for only 5 years, but he will constantly be having to look over his shoulder and there is a good chance someone will kill him. Chances are the guards will look the other way while it is going on, too.

I don't think it is right that someone who sodomizes a 6 year old child gets only 5 years in prison. They need to increase that drastically. They need to stop locking up non-violent criminals like pot smokers, so there is room in prison for these people. Why is it we have mandatory minimums for drug offenses but not for more serious crimes? :rant:

I do support mandatory castration for sex offenders. Is that cruel and unusual? :smash:

Just my $0.02.

[phoenixblayze]

I do support mandatory castration for sex offenders. Is that cruel and unusual? :smash:

nope, i think its perfectly fitting

[WitchJezebel]

Pedophiles are despised by other inmates in prison; it's a big possibility he may not survive the 5 years in prison.

[Ziana]

wow, only 5 years?? :bastard: My child was not 'internally assaulted' but her attacker is facing 25 years to life for aggrevated sexual assault.

Sometimes it's good to live in Texas....._tsk_

[Faeawyn]

Wow....thats frightening. Especially the part where he was accused of saying when he got out, he would come after Tyler. He needs to stay in there for life. There's no cure for pedifiles.

[aislin_ryann]

Shame he survived.

Agreed. I think that child molesters should be in jail for the rest of their miserable lives.

[Belladona]

How terrible.

(lighting a candle for you and your family)

[gwendar]

I'm sorry he didn't die.
I think sex offenders should suffer, be tortured to death.

I can't believe he only got 5 years! That's just wrong. :(

[Old Witch]

Maybe next time they'll use a bigger shiv...There was a guy around here given 6 mos probation for molesting a 13 year old girl...That judge that gave him that sentence should be removed from the bench....and there's a petition and a civil suit in the works to do just that...

[Serendipity]

I do support mandatory castration for sex offenders. Is that cruel and unusual?

No, it's what they deserve. Rapist, child molesters, pedophiles - They shouldn't be allowed to breathe. These people (along with the likes of Charles Manson, etc) should be held accountable for their actions

FIVE years isn't jack. =|

[ObsessedFae86]

Pedophiles are despised by other inmates in prison; it's a big possibility he may not survive the 5 years in prison.


Right about that..Inmates feel :aburst: when they see Pedophiles! :rolleyes:

[BlueMoon13]

Yeah, pedophiles and child molesters are at the bottom of the social hierarchy in prisons. He might be there for only 5 years, but he will constantly be having to look over his shoulder and there is a good chance someone will kill him. Chances are the guards will look the other way while it is going on, too.

I don't think it is right that someone who sodomizes a 6 year old child gets only 5 years in prison. They need to increase that drastically. They need to stop locking up non-violent criminals like pot smokers, so there is room in prison for these people. Why is it we have mandatory minimums for drug offenses but not for more serious crimes? :rant:

I do support mandatory castration for sex offenders. Is that cruel and unusual? :smash:

Just my $0.02.
In TOTAL agreement with you on this one:achug:

[Yasmine Galenorn]

Sigh...I've been called barbaric before for my views, but so be it. By the time some miscreant reaches the point where he's raping little kids (or she--there have been some very sadistic women), I say just put a bullet through his brain if you can conclusively prove he did it. They get out of jail, they do it again. Time and again.

I'm not talking about consensual sex between somebody 15 or 16 and somebody older, but some of these creeps just need to be out of the gene pool for good. I was molested by a family member when I was four years old...I have to live with that the rest of my life, and even though I have a handle on it now, there was never any punishment for my abuser. He's dead now, and that was the only satisfaction I ever got--when I heard he was dead, I danced for joy and found myself chanting, "You can't ever hurt me again because you're DEAD!!! DEAD DEAD DEAD!!!" (And not because I believe in karma in the typical pagan fashion because I don't...the fact that he's dead means I can close the book on him in my life).

I hate hearing about stuff like this, but it's so rampant. There's an article in today's Seattle Times about a hundred or so sex offenders in King County who are hiding behind saying they're homeless to get away without being monitored. In truth, a lot of them are hiding out. And continuing to re-offend. I'm totally fed up with the system.

Yasmine :colorful:

[9-2-2]

Finally home from work.

I feel that the problem of child molestation is a multi-faceted and complex problem, where each offender usually comes from unique backgrounds that put them in their position: 1) Previous abuse to themselves in life, 2) Sexual repression, 3) A twisted ego, i.e. a kid humiliates a potential sexual offender, and the offender's ego twists and turns, and he or she "humiliates" the child for "revenge", 4) A sense of power, 5) Extreme psychological disorders (genetic, domestic, etc.), 6) Being "turned on" by social vices. Problems stem from roots and causes. Think of it like this... there is a tree, and every leaf on this tree is a sexual predator. You throw one in the slammer, or kill one, and one leaf is removed from the tree... but the rest remain. We need to start looking at the roots of societal and familial situations that encourage these traits to arise in our fellow human. Through this path, you start at the roots - which are harder to pull up - but will bring the entire tree tumbling down, leaves and all.

Suggesting methods of cruel torture is not the answer... those actions only satisfy the ego and the dark side of us all, and certainly won't solve the problem of pedophilia. Besides, half of such suggestions already occur in prisons, and certainly doesn't "discourage" potential and current sexual predators.

Torture doesn't discourage crime, and death penalties do not discourage crime... crime will always find ways around the rules, strictures, and lambasting, no matter how harsh or all-seeing.

These crimes will continue to happen as long as we keep clipping at the leaves, but ignoring the roots.

Looking back at what happened, it seems that Jason applies to #1, #2, #5, and I believe #6. He wasn't a raving lunatic hellbent on a power trip, but the seedy, decaying type. He was raised in an atmosphere of horrible abuse and sexual repression. He allowed his depression to take control of him, and he eventually became disgustingly obese and diabetic. For two years, DO and myself did everything in our power to help change him. We tried to help him exercise, eat right, take responsibility with chores, teach him philosophy, improve his outlook on life, and tried to help him into the dating world with adults. He adamantly refused, no matter how hard we warned and prodded... we told him that his stagnant path of loneliness would lead him down a darker road. He completely bought into his upbringing of powerlessness and sexual repression.

We were completely unaware of what was going on with Tyler until it was too late. I started getting calls at work from detectives, which made my bosses (temp jobs) nervous and suspicious. It increased family tensions, because idiots started pointing fingers and playing the blame game... "Well, if you had done x, y, and z, this would have never happened, you irresponsible monsters!!!" That kind of bull. Well, to hell with them. Everyone points fingers until the fingers are pointing at them. Point the damn fingers at the criminal. We did everything in our power to protect Tyler and help him recover, and he's doing a lot better... except for the balsted Ridalin... :strike:

[BeigeAllen]

OMG....That's terrible..He deserves life!

I think he deserves death. Child molesters either are unwilling or unable to stop molesting kids. Either way they are better off dead.:smoke:

[Ninjakitten]

I'm so sorry this happened! I do have to say that despite what you saying as being true, we have way too many people on this planet to make me feel like what Yasmine said was "barbaric" or wrong. As our population grows, each person becomes less significant to society unless they make a major change in the world. Eventually, people are going to wake up and realize that we need to stop the cycle, even if it means killing off people who do such heinous things so they don't produce another generation of themselves. People do things like this because the legal system is a joke and we are not allowed to take them out when we know they do these things, or we end up the ones in jail for the rest of our lives. It's a criminal's society unless enough people stand up and are willing to defend themselves and not even give the legal system a chance to work. If it worked, that would be different, but a 5 year sentence for scarring another human being for life? He should be forced to have the word "molester" tatooed to his face and not be legally allowed to cover it up or remove it. The cops can't protect everyone, yet we throw all our rights to be protected into them, and by then the damage is done. I am glad that in this case, the cops found out even before you did, and that they did something, but you are right the damage has been done. You and your son so didn't deserve this or to be criticized for deciding to be good people and try to help this guy out.

I bet if the victims (or their guardians if not of legal age) chose the punishments for the guilty, then people would think twice about pulling crap against other people.

[BeigeAllen]

Why is it we have mandatory minimums for drug offenses but not for more serious crimes? :rant:

I do support mandatory castration for sex offenders. Is that cruel and unusual? :smash:

Just my $0.02.

That's a nickel's worth at least. I happen to agree that we are too lenient with some crimes and unnecessarily harsh on others.

I think the punishment is still too tame though. Mandatory castration by chemical burn, in other words castration by lye :achug:

[9-2-2]

I bet if the victims (or their guardians if not of legal age) chose the punishments for the guilty, then people would think twice about pulling crap against other people.

Specifically for this situation, reincarnation. I have look at the weaves and paths that Jason has lead, and they all lead to stagnation and reverse-growth. He's already there, and there is no chance he'll ever pull himself out of it.

For the rest, it's a case by case basis. I look at them and their paths magickally, I judge the situation carefully, and take many things into consideration before performing any action.

[Yasmine Galenorn]

...give the legal system a chance to work. If it worked, that would be different, but a 5 year sentence for scarring another human being for life?

That's why I support the death penalty over life in prison--because too often, 'life in prison' isn't. If it was--guaranteed no clemancy or parole or screw ups that allow for prison breaks--then I'd be more apt to say, "Okay, if you have to, keep them alive."

And I also agree that too often non-violent crimes are punished far more harshly than violent ones. Hey, somebody steals something--put them to work in community service to work off the debt rather than put them in jail. Somebody has pot but isn't a dealer? Fine them if you want, don't throw them in prison.

I was in court in 1980 (yes, me, for a nonviolent offense of which yes--I was guilty). The man being sentenced right before me had molested his daughter for FIFTEEN YEARS....since she was five! He was sentenced to thirty days in jail and was allowed to go home afterwards.

I had delivered (didn't even make money *grins*) ten hits of acid to a narc. I received 20 days in jail and two years of probation. Now, I'm not disputing my sentence, even though I never had my rights read to me or saw a warrant (the cops don't always play by the rules)...BUT...the fact that this creep got one month jail time for what he did to his little girl just freaked me out.

Totally destroyed any trust I have that our legal system takes care of things. And my distrust hasn't been disproven on so many counts. I'm not advocating vigilantism, but something has to be done or more people are going to shoot first and ask questions later. To me, rape a little kid and it's one strike, you're out. If they can't give life in prison without any possibility of parole, then I think just get rid of the guy. Hell, there are psychos out there raping babies who can't even walk yet.

And speaking of life in prison, instead of sitting in their cell, we could get a lot of work out of those guys for the tax dollars it takes to house them. A few old fashioned chain gangs for the violent offenders might just take some of the excess energy out and dispell it. Run it like a military camp; the inmates keep it spotless, do their own laundry, etc..

Yasmine :colorful:

[DragonsChest]

He should be forced to have the word "molester" tatooed to his face and not be legally allowed to cover it up or remove it.


I really like this idea. Then execute him. I have no sympathy or time to "rehabilitate" a child molester or abuser. Such people lose their right to exist the first time this happens. For me, end of story. Period.

[CzechWoods]

Yeah, pedophiles and child molesters are at the bottom of the social hierarchy in prisons. He might be there for only 5 years, but he will constantly be having to look over his shoulder and there is a good chance someone will kill him. Chances are the guards will look the other way while it is going on, too.

I don't think it is right that someone who sodomizes a 6 year old child gets only 5 years in prison. They need to increase that drastically. They need to stop locking up non-violent criminals like pot smokers, so there is room in prison for these people. Why is it we have mandatory minimums for drug offenses but not for more serious crimes? :rant:

I do support mandatory castration for sex offenders. Is that cruel and unusual? :smash:

Just my $0.02.


castration aint enough. they can still rape children. its not bout sex but bout power and control. if they have no natural "tools" they will use man-made ones, strap ons, candles whatever

my idea is maybe more harsh but very effective.

death penalty. immediate execution. no death row, no waiting, no appeals.

free the soul of that scum persona

THEREAFTER karma can handle that

[morningstar2651]

Kill him? Why put him out of his misery? Everyone in the prison despises him.

He doesn't deserve death, he deserves life...in prison.

[DragonsChest]

Kill him? Why put him out of his misery? Everyone in the prison despises him.

He doesn't deserve death, he deserves life...in prison.

Perhaps, but I just don't think he needs to soak up any more of the world's time, energy, resources, etc. Get rid of the child molesters.

[CzechWoods]

he ceased to deserve life the moment he molested a child

[Pesha]

The Universe has a wondrful solution for filth like this man. When he does deceid to die, his energies his soul material will be taken by the Infinite Divine and discarded into the Great Void. Never again to have reincarnation. He wasted what he was given. Death is not enough for this cretin.

And yes in prison he does not stand too good of a chance, they hate child molester inside of prison. So karma will get him.

I send love and healing light 922 to you and your fiance's child and to your fiance.


BB
DS.

[morningstar2651]

. . .

And speaking of life in prison, instead of sitting in their cell, we could get a lot of work out of those guys for the tax dollars it takes to house them. A few old fashioned chain gangs for the violent offenders might just take some of the excess energy out and dispell it. Run it like a military camp; the inmates keep it spotless, do their own laundry, etc..

Yasmine :colorful:
I'm very much in agreement. I find retributive justice spiteful, childish, and ultimately destructive to society.

[Philosophia]

I'm disgusted by peadophiles, they make me sick to the stomach.
I believe we should tattoo "child molestor" on the forehead and then dump them into a hole in the ground. There they should be made to wallow in filth, mud and what ever excretions there may be, and kept away from the light.
Death is too good for them.
However (I hope doesn't make me hated here), a person has to be careful in case the accused is innocent. It happens, but (hopefully) it is rare.
9-2-2 :hugz: you are a pillar of strength and wisdom for everybody here. I will light a candle for you, your fiancee and your fiancee's son for strength and peace, and may "Jason" rot in whatever horror there is out there.
- AtheneNemesysNyx (a victim of pedophilia)

[pooja]

perhaps a cell mate can put arsenic in his food.

[BeigeAllen]

Kill him? Why put him out of his misery? Everyone in the prison despises him.

He doesn't deserve death, he deserves life...in prison.

Why do you assume killing him ends his misery? Letting him live allows him the chance to harm others. Let the will of whatever controls after the body dies decide the punishments after that, its got better ways to hurt him and more time to do it in.

I like the idea of this guy suffering for eternity at the hands of my gods than I do him suffering a few decades of prison life. Besides, gods can come up with far better punishments for things like this to make sure his dying is not a reward.
:achug:

[Galaxia]

Pedophiles are despised by other inmates in prison; it's a big possibility he may not survive the 5 years in prison.
Thats what I was gonna say... there just doesn't seem to be a tolerance for child molestation in prison "culture."

[Lunacie]

9_2_2, I was going to come in here this morning and figure out how to say pretty much what you've said. There are reasons that these guys (usually men) make the choice to abuse children. Not excuses, but reasons.

That said, can pedophiles be rehabilitated? I don't think so. Unless they ARE kept in prison for life, most will abuse again.



Why do you assume killing him ends his misery? Letting him live allows him the chance to harm others. Let the will of whatever controls after the body dies decide the punishments after that, its got better ways to hurt him and more time to do it in.

I like the idea of this guy suffering for eternity at the hands of my gods than I do him suffering a few decades of prison life. Besides, gods can come up with far better punishments for things like this to make sure his dying is not a reward.
:achug:

I gotta agree with this. Good argument for the death penalty. Put that together with my taxes being spent to support people who are too dangerous to live in a free society, and I vote for the death penalty for those particular people. The ones who are deserving of limited jail time should certainly be required to work for their food and shelter. Not slave labour, just honest work.

[David19]

It's a shame he survived since i think pediphiles are sick, disgusting and evil and that they deserve to suffer and be tortured. Hopefully some other prisoners and maybe the guards will make him suffer and then when he does die, i hope every single god gives him what he deserves, then i hope he goes straight to the typical Christian hell, since he deserves to burn forever.

[LyraDragonStar]

Ahh, I heard about this on the news. Just a little bit though. I'm not sure what to think.

['Lara Shadowstalker]

I do support mandatory castration for sex offenders. Is that cruel and unusual? :smash:



actually, im not sure of the eugenics laws were ever removed from the books. they allowed for the mandatory castration of the pedophiles, rapists and the mentally unsound.:floating:

i paid too much attn to that chapter in history class.... *blush*



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[mol]

MOL MODE

Good grief. This thread is sick. Not only tainted by the sicko chomo, but also by all the violent bullshit that proceeded thereafter. I don't think that was the original intention of this thread.