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cloudspanther
December 17th, 2005, 03:32 PM
born feburary 6, 1970
time 635 am est
place, hollywood , broward, florida

Thank you for the time and effort you put into doing these readings.

lady bless,
clouds

Fluffmeister
December 17th, 2005, 04:37 PM
Well, this is all a bit synchronous - I don't remember anyone having "panther" in their title, but tonight we have *two* people called panther after readings :)

We start with the "Big Three" - your Sun, Moon and Ascendant. Everyone knows their Sun sign - that's the one you look up in magazines - so you're an Aquarius. Aquarians have a reputation for being the revolutionaries, the mould-breakers, the radicals - and you're not just a little bit Aquarius, you're a LOT Aquarius. Take a look at that chart - EVERYTHING is pretty much crammed into Aquarius! You have your Sun, your Moon and your Ascendant all in Aquarius. You are a "triple Aquarius".

Now, I have to say this doesn't make for an easy chart for you. Firstly, when you have all your planets bunched up like that it means that when you have a difficult "transit" (that's when a planet in the sky passes over them), it lasts for ages. I wonder what it felt like between 1997 and 2001? This was when Uranus, your ruling planet, came passing over your Ascendant, then your Sun, then your Moon, then your Venus - and Uranus is exciting and disruptive. Oh, and Saturn - the planet everyone loves to hate - came round to make a full circuit during this time too (that's called your Saturn return and is usually pretty intense). Was this a big life changing time for you?

The other thing with those planets in Aquarius is they make a right-angle to both Jupiter and Saturn. When one planet makes a right-angle to two other planets, it's called a T-square. I don't know what it's called when a whole bunch of planets makes a right-angle to two others - a super-duper T-square, I guess! So you have a super-duper T-square involving your entire life making a tricky aspect to a Saturn/Jupiter opposition. Jupiter is the planet of growth and expansion. He's big and bouncy and a bit over the top. He likes to say "yes!! go for it!". Saturn is the planet of restriction. His catchphrase is "NO!". So Jupiter is like your favourite uncle who gives you lots of chocolate, and Saturn is like the stern father who takes away the chocolate because it's "bad for you". So this opposition represents a struggle in your life between sensible structure and adventure, with all your planets torn between the two. This can represent confidence issues and needing to carve out your own identity. My guess is this just got a whole lot easier in the last five years, as you had your Saturn return and learned to respect your individuality and set your own boundaries.

RedRose
December 17th, 2005, 08:25 PM
Cloudspanther,

It is so beautiful to see this chart. No, not easy, but beautiful to meet a real triple Aquarius! You are my first triple (Sun, Moon, Rising) Aquarius this life. I know a triple Leo, a triple Gemini, three triple Cancers, one triple Sagittarius, all totally "different" people, cosmically so! But a triple Aquarius, now THAT is more different yet!

RedRose

2wicky
December 17th, 2005, 09:17 PM
Wow, actually a quadruple if you count the Venus. Do you have white hair and blue eyes? Kill off light bulbs? :)

cloudspanther
December 17th, 2005, 10:02 PM
no actually I have dark brown hair and eyes, though I have been going silver white since my early 20's, and when I am angered my eyes have been known to go gold or silver. I am a first/ only child by my mother, and my fathers 7th, and it just so happens that my father was also a 7th child, and his father a 7th child.

I can mess with electric but dislike it, I prefer to protect. I have helped weather take a turn away while living in florida cause well tornado in a travel park area is not nice. But out here in washington I have mostly just been sensing a very deep distrubance in the earth from the three volcaneos I am surrounded by.

As to 1997 to 2001 it was a time of great trials , my adopted father died in 2000, I moved to florida from upstate ny in 1997, I was in a bad car accident in 1997 and lost the twin to my son. I also married in 2001. I was kind of hoping the stars where going to line up and let up on me sometime soon cause I have kind of reached my limit. I know that we are never given more than we can handle, but UMMMM I am not a god. Things have still been hard on us and no end in site.

lady bless, and thank you for taking the time to do this reading,
clouds

ps dont know about another panther but cloudspanther has been my name since I was "technicially" declared dead on july 5 1996 at 735 pm est in watertown ny. I remember it all and I am cherokee, before that my adult cherokee name was rising starr, my childs name was child of god and flower of the world. I was told that my name would be cloudspanther because I am a panther of the sky and the clouds are my home. That the stars are my friends and that I run among them and reflect their glory.

DaughterofClouds
December 17th, 2005, 10:06 PM
Well since you did my mothers would you be willing to do mine?

April 19th 1989
Staten Island New York
10:27Am

I know I am a cusp both Aries and Taurus, can any of you ladies do mine.

I am clouds oldest daughter and I am 16 years old. I have brown hair and Brown eyes, and much of the gifts my mother has. Though I prefer to think of myself as a Warrior and healer, I go by the Calling of Child of Star is my native american name
My Wiccan name is Walker of the Morning Star
But Y'all can just call me Meagen

2wicky
December 17th, 2005, 10:35 PM
I can't give readings (because I don't know what I'm doing) but I just wanted to let you two know about www.astro.com which has some really great free info. You just put in your birth details and then go to "Interactive Horoscopes" under Free Horoscopes, and then "Astro Click Portrait" and click on the little symbols and it will tell you all the different positions and aspects in your chart, with interpretations. A real reading is much better though because it combines all that into a clearer picture.

KEishin
December 17th, 2005, 11:01 PM
Wow, for someone with so much Aquarius, you sure have a lot of indicators for being one who hates change!

KEishin
December 17th, 2005, 11:20 PM
I know I am a cusp both Aries and Taurus, can any of you ladies do mine.
Well, you are defintely an Aries, but if you'd been born 12 hours later you'd have been a Taurus!

The three parts of your chart I look at first at the Sun (Aries) the Moon (Libra) and the rising sign (Cancer). Now Aries and Libra are exactly opposite each other, which means you were born shortly before a Full Moon. So the two signs can contradict each other. Aries is independent; Libra needs people. You do your own thing, but are eager to please and need constant reassurance. Are you a drama queen? I say that because moody Cancer rising plus a few other indicators say you have problems keeping your feet on the ground, concentrating for long periods of time (ooh, look, shiny!) or in controlling your emotions. It's not easy for you to be objective. But firey Aries folks's anger flares up fast and just as quickly fades away. You'd rather everyone just got along anyway (bonus points if they get along *your* way).

Watch your tendency to ignore responsibility and details because they're "boring." You shoot from the hip, love spontenaity and start lots of things, but don't always get around to finishing them. You defintely are not one to be tied down!

cloudspanther
December 17th, 2005, 11:31 PM
yep thats her to a T , weird thing is her sister was born a yr and a day later. And they are totally planar opposites.

april 20 1990
1107 pm est
staten island ny

those are just my two oldest, add in the other five and this house can be fun, umm not. LOL.

Thanks again and lady bless you for giving of yourself like this,
clouds

RedRose
December 18th, 2005, 09:15 AM
Hi Cloudspanther,

Great to have you here. Your chart and your life are amazing. You are a real specialist. KEishin did mention that resistance to change, and she is right, but then again, we Aquarians don't need to "change" rather it is time for the rest of the world to do things differently. The world needs to change, and Aquarians have special awareness about all that, and really, if folks would stop marginalizing us and let Aquarians (wacky as we can seem) manage ans coordinate things for a spell, we might just pull off world peace and goodwill towards all beings sooner rather than later. Yes?

Cloudspanther, I am an Aquarius, but you ARE the Aquarian archetype. You are here, not to change, but to be yourself, be yourself, be yourself. This is HARD because you are as different, unique, weird, magically, syncronistic, uncontrollable and stubborn a person as any of us will ever likely know. No one, not even mystics, pagans and shamans, are going to understand why you are the way you are. It isn't what you say or do, it is just YOU. Many/most will find just being in the same room with you to be either WONDERFUL or WAY TOO INTENSE, or both.

You have Pluto and Uranus in the 8th House which gives you amazing powers. I don't have anything like Pluto and Uranus in my 8th House and frankly I am not envious of you. I got juju enough to do what I am meant to do this life. I have my own magic. You have amazing gifts, pure, raw, primal power, in the areas of manifestation and sex and death and birth and core psychology and soul healing.

Not that you can TALK about any of this. My partner, also an Aquarius, has Mercury in Capricorn in the 12th and he seems ready to burst sometimes to try to find words to say what he experiences and needs to have said.

Then, occasionally, he find the words. And he speaks them and I write them down, because Capricorn messages from the Soul House (12th) need to live beyond our lifetimes.

So (!) carry a journal and keep wrestling with that angel muse of words because when you can find the words to say it, or we can read it, it feels like going to a psychic chiropractor for your audience.

"Oh I SEE! That make it so CLEAR! I feel better. Healed even!"

Otherwise might as well stay mute, because no one knows what the $@$%$ you are talking about.

Do you survive financially by magic?

I'd love to read your insights over on the "Scorpio Men" thread -which is discussing various taboo subjects in honor of them and how sexy they are.

RedRose

RedRose
December 18th, 2005, 09:45 AM
Hello Daughter of Clouds,

You are so not your Mother, but one of her is enough, and you have your own magic. It is far more practical and in step with this world. You are a spiritual teacher too, maybe more so, in some sense, because your Mom just IS. You actually have better ways, uh well, more standard ways, of connecting with people.

Saturn on the Descendant conjunct Neptune means you will have a spiritual teacher, probably many, and become a spiritual teacher yourself, gradually gaining power and success as the years go by. Keep studying.

You could marry a teacher, or marry too young, or give your power away, letting someone else run you....but you are a teacher in your own right so just keep studying, and insist on equal partnerships with all.

Your Mother's explosion of Aquarius-ness happens in your 8th House. You have an intense relationship, soul intense...deep and cosmic - and it can not always be easy. Your Mom is a trip. A free-spirit. Can't quite imagine all the places she has taken you and the other children. I imagine that you may have had to learn to feed yourself but you always had plenty of arts supplies!

With Sun/Venus conjunct on the cusp of the 11th, you have LOTS of charm, charisma even. And you are VERY articulate. I love my Mercury in the 11th opposite my Pluto in the 5th. You are great with public speaking and performance and probably writing.

Love to see you over with the Scorpio men as well. I bet you understand them, and goddess knows, they need lots of understanding.

RedRose

Fluffmeister
December 18th, 2005, 10:42 AM
Cloudspanther,

It is so beautiful to see this chart. No, not easy, but beautiful to meet a real triple Aquarius! You are my first triple (Sun, Moon, Rising) Aquarius this life. I know a triple Leo, a triple Gemini, three triple Cancers, one triple Sagittarius, all totally "different" people, cosmically so! But a triple Aquarius, now THAT is more different yet!

RedRose

Yes, it's is pretty amazing, isn't it RedRose? I've never met a triple Aquarius before in the sense of Asc, Sun, Moon - but I did have a student born on 4 February 1962. Her rising sign wasn't Aquarius, but she does have Mars, Saturn, Moon, Sun, Venus, Mercury *and* Jupiter in Aquarius! It was a total eclipse a few hours after she was born, too :)

RedRose
December 18th, 2005, 01:22 PM
Yes! I have a friend who has all/most of her personal planets in Aquarius in the 4th with a Sag. Rising. Oh Fluffmeister, I wish you could see her gardens! Can you imagine?

RedRose

PS Astrologers sometimes see charts that put us into altered states. This happens to what Fluff calls "Neptunian" astrologers like me all the time, because my main method of interpretation is to "try it on" - I imagine what it is like to be someone with THAT chart.

It isn't so much that 2wicky's chart and Monk's chart, and Cloudspanther's charts etc. are extra marvelous and superior, or more mystical - they are simply more TRIPPY. Everyone has a life and a role to play. Some have taken on big roles and they have harder training, lots of squares and oppositions forcing them to cope and learn. Other folks have lives that are way calmer and easier, peaceful and contemplative even. These people are often advanced souls choosing to serve in simpler ways.

Which is to say I can get high and/or receive peace from contemplating anyone's chart and imagining anyone's true destiny.

This is different. It is amazing to imagine what it is like to be a triple, quadruple, quintiple, etc Aquarius.

Maybe just thinking about it activates Uranus?

DaughterofClouds
December 18th, 2005, 02:09 PM
I thank you ladies alot for the reading, actually the dream I have had since before I can remember. Is to be a Jockey and race on the back of a horse. I want to feel the wind in my hair and the vibrations of the horses hooves on the packed dirt of the track.

cloudspanther
December 18th, 2005, 03:03 PM
lol
Yes this is me in alot of ways, though my kids always have come first. Yes they have always had art supplies. I didnt let them learn to cook until they were in their teens LOL. I have 7 children so now I let the older kids help with the younger ones.

I try to allow each of them to grow in their own ways with guidance as they need. Some more than others, but they each have their thorns.

lady bless,
clouds
ps as to writings, I have been writing since I was young, was published several times in high school and even on the internet but have not written as much lately, been making clay rose's and clay cirlce for use with essential oils and light bulbs.

RedRose
December 18th, 2005, 07:44 PM
Dear Daughter of Clouds,

Sounds wonderful! Follow your bliss. Being a teacher (in the sense I meant it), articulate, and so forth are basic gifts you have, not necessarily an indicator of your career. I was looking at your spiritual side, you might say.

Do you ride a lot?

RedRose


Dear Cloudspanther,

Obviously you are wonderful wonderful Mom. Are you a single Mom?

RedRose

Fluffmeister
December 18th, 2005, 08:55 PM
PS Astrologers sometimes see charts that put us into altered states. This happens to what Fluff calls "Neptunian" astrologers like me all the time, because my main method of interpretation is to "try it on" - I imagine what it is like to be someone with THAT chart.




What a wonderful concept, RedRose! Meditation, creative visualisation and astrology all rolled into one :)

KEishin
December 18th, 2005, 09:28 PM
It isn't so much that 2wicky's chart and Monk's chart, and Cloudspanther's charts etc. are extra marvelous and superior, or more mystical - they are simply more TRIPPY. Everyone has a life and a role to play. Some have taken on big roles and they have harder training, lots of squares and oppositions forcing them to cope and learn. Other folks have lives that are way calmer and easier, peaceful and contemplative even. These people are often advanced souls choosing to serve in simpler ways.

The simple life is highly underrated - but no chart is ever simple. Everybody has something that makes them special in their chart. Just sometimes we astrologer get all excited by something theoretical that we've not seen before. Like all the munchkins being born right now with Chiron in Aquarius . . . wow that'll be fun to watch them grow up.

cloudspanther
December 18th, 2005, 11:47 PM
no though with my first husband being military I might have well have been. He had me live with my parents for most of our marriage. Hence our marriage didnt last.

I just feel that each of my children are individual and have to be treated that way.

lady bless,
clouds

cloudspanther
December 19th, 2005, 11:04 AM
March 1 1974
830 am pst
san diego ca

This is my life mates info, we have been together threw 11 yrs of everything good bad and indifferent. How would we mess by the stars?

lady bless,
clouds

RedRose
January 1st, 2006, 10:44 PM
Hi Clouds,

Check out the tutorial here at Mystic Wicks astrology and I am happy to help you figure out your chart here in your thread too.

Take a look at your scope, posted in this thread. See the inner circle with the numbers, 1-12. Those mark the Houses. Can you see how your Rising or ASC/Ascendant (on the left of the scope wheel) marks the beginning of the 1st House and end of the 12th House?

Your Asendant/Rising is at 8* Aquarius. Aquarius is on the cusp of your 1st House. Do you know the symbol for the planets?

http://www.astrology-numerology.com/symbols.html

Find your 8th House of magic, mystery, tantra, transformation and such. Uranus and also Pluto are there.

RedRose

cloudspanther
January 2nd, 2006, 10:48 AM
okies found them and no I had not known all the symbols for the planets. wow I really have a cluster in aquarias.

Weird I always loved the song, this is the dawning of the age of aquariaus. They used to make us sing that twice a yr at the shows in the catholic school I attended.

lady bless,
clouds