Soul Mates

[AradiaSupernova]

hi all :)

Ok....my question is this. Do any of you believe in soul mates? I don't mean just boyfriends and girlfriends, husbands and wives..I mean anything ranging from that to animals or spirit guides or whatever. I truly believe I found my soulmate and I'm just wondering everyone's opinion :)

[Demeter]

I believe in multiple soulmates, in the sense that certain entities may choose to journey together for parts of multiple lifetimes, in pairs or larger groups. I do not, however, believe in "soulmates" as a function of romantic love -- "we loved each other immediately so we must be meant to be together through all our lifetimes and this is the only person for me." Not hardly. This person may or may not be a soulmate. The lesson they have come to share with you may or may not be a good one. My XH used to claim we were soulmates. Perhaps we were, but the person he was in this life was abusive and I eventually said "Enough!" I think that your parents, or your sister, or your dog is as likely to be a soulmate as the person you have just fallen in love with. And next life, you may get to be the parent, or the sister, or the dog. Or some other relationship.

[Xander67]

yes and no LOL

but I would like to congratulate you on a truly beautiful,
and well designed site,

it is well worth looking at, its organised, and its not to busy,
it flows realy well..

2 THumbs up

[AradiaSupernova]

my website?

[Xander67]

eh, like, in your profile, unless youve been hacked LOL

[Gypsy Raven]

I agree with Demeter, I think that we share our earth walk with many people for a reason be it good or bad! We learn from everyone that we meet. For those who we meet that impact our lives be it negative or positive we grow from the experience ~ and sometimes more so with negative encounters!
My cousin and I were kept apart as children but sought eachother out in adulthood, and we really feel a deep spiritual connection, so in that sense I reckon we are soul mates. My daughter and I feel that we defenately knew eachother in a past life!
Then there are those fellow beings that we feel we have known all our lives on the instant of meeting ~ kinda like spirit recognizing spirit! I say fellow beings because I mean all living things......I have a spiritual connection with quite a few trees and certain animals too!

I wish you well with your relationship and hope that you will both be very happy!

Love n' Light!

Raven.

[AradiaSupernova]

nope. haven't been hacked. LOL. Thank you Xander :0) And thanks to all of you for replying. :)

[lucidfire]

yes I do believe in soulmates; yet in the same sense I think fate itself is mutable, so I think finding one's soulmate doesn't guarantee they'll be there forever; I think there's a lot of concious effort involved as well

love's a grand thing though, in any sense

[Danustouch]

I, Too, believe in soulmates. But..that doesn't mean that I believe that your partner must absolutely be your soulmate. I believe that there are people who are your soulmates, for a given time in your life. That we're predestined some how, to run across differen't individuals, who will bring specific gifts or blessings to our lives at a given moment in time. That, to me, is a soulmate. If your partner just so happens to be your soul mate..then hey..more power to ya.

In my case, my soulmate is a very close friend of mine. And we've never had a romance. We've kinda come to accept, that in this reality, we're not meant to be together romantically, but that in some other reality, or perhaps in a past life, or maybe in a future incarnation, we probably are/were/or will be together like that.

I think a soul mate, is someone you recognize that you are somehow bound, inexplicably to. Drawn, inexplicably to. Like there is some sort of magickal thread, binding the two of you together. It's sort of a recognition. And it feels like you've always known the person, or that you will always know them, in the future.

That's my definition anyway :)

[Myst]

Yup, I have a few soul mates, and they remember parts of a couple lives we've shared. Most of my Pagan friends and my fiance are my soulmates. Possibly one of my parents or both too, but who knows :)

[MistOfTheSea86]

Originally posted by Danustouch
I, Too, believe in soulmates. But..that doesn't mean that I believe that your partner must absolutely be your soulmate. I believe that there are people who are your soulmates, for a given time in your life. That we're predestined some how, to run across differen't individuals, who will bring specific gifts or blessings to our lives at a given moment in time. That, to me, is a soulmate. If your partner just so happens to be your soul mate..then hey..more power to ya.

In my case, my soulmate is a very close friend of mine. And we've never had a romance. We've kinda come to accept, that in this reality, we're not meant to be together romantically, but that in some other reality, or perhaps in a past life, or maybe in a future incarnation, we probably are/were/or will be together like that.

I think a soul mate, is someone you recognize that you are somehow bound, inexplicably to. Drawn, inexplicably to. Like there is some sort of magickal thread, binding the two of you together. It's sort of a recognition. And it feels like you've always known the person, or that you will always know them, in the future.

That's my definition anyway :)

EXACTLY I completely agree...

[Sequoia]

I belive in soul mates. Doesn't have to be a lover. Can be a close friend, can be a love, can be family, heck could be a pet. Soul mates are two or more souls that are tied together somehow; souls that share a special bond that brings them to meet, over and over; a bond that keeps them together through the depths of time, and indeed space; soul mates are people that belong together, for one reason or another, and who usually are happy being together.

Soulmates are.

[Myst]

no...really?

[Angelwulfe]

i totally argree with puma hime
i believe that my fiancee is my soulmate and not just because i love him. theres just this really strong connection also we pretty much knew we were going to meet each other before we did if that makes any sense.

[mato]

I dont believe in soul mates in any form.

[Flaire-FireStar]

This is a tough question for me.. Other than my cat, I'm not really that close to anyone at all.. It could be possible that my cat is my soulmate (laugh if you must, I do have conversations with her).. And I think I'll be miserable for a long time after she dies.. But I don't think that I have a human soulmate.. I'm not a people person. I don't communicate well IRL (in real life), and just being around a lot of people, or just one person makes me uneasy.
I think there are human soulmates for some people, but not for all.. :)

[Nyx]

I think anything's possible.


~~Nyx~~

[Persephone]

I think of soul mates as spirit friends, or soul friends. There is a celtic phrase for it - Anam Cara. The souls we spend time with life after life, and in between lives. They can be friends, children, lovers. And while some people might argue about pets being soul mates, I think they can be. I've long considered my cat to be a very special spirit friend who came to help me through very difficult times.

[NoviceWitch01]

I ring in on the side of those who believe in soul mates.

I know who my soulmate is, the person for whatever reason that I'm supposed to learn a lesson from. I'm drawn to him, and I can literally feel it when he hurts. I know when he's upset, dunno I just know him in everyway. Never felt like that about anyone except my son! Are you ready for the weird part? LOL, we haven't been formally introduced. Several opportunities have come for us to meet, but for whatever reason something always interferred. Truth be told, as much as I want to be with him..........now is just not the time.

Time will tell, until that time I simply live my life to the fullest and send him love and blessings everyday.

My other soulmate is my son!!! That child and I are seriously attatched. I have no way to describe it, but he's my heart and soul, little monster that he is, LOL!!!


Goddess Bless,

Isis

[alyssa141]

I think a soul mate, is someone you recognize that you are somehow bound, inexplicably to. Drawn, inexplicably to. Like there is some sort of magickal thread, binding the two of you together. It's sort of a recognition. And it feels like you've always known the person, or that you will always know them, in the future.

that's exactly what i think. your soulmate isn't necessarily someone you're romantically involved with, but someone you are bound to. :)

[Danustouch]

Persephone...

I have read the book "Anam Cara" too...and when I read it, I almost fell over, because all of the traits attributed to ones Anam Cara, fit me and my bestfriend/soulmate, too. So I started calling him my anam cara, and he picked up on it too. The definition put forth in that book, is exactly how he and I feel.

It's a friendship which transcends societal bounds, bounds of time, a friendship where you can say anything, and be understood immediately. There is nothing between the two of you that can be unforgiven. In short..it's as the word itsself means. Soul Friend. :)

[Haedis]

I'm not too sure where I stand. I think its possible to have a soulmate somewhere...but i dont think that everyone has them. I think if we come across a soul we knew in a past life..that its a rare coincidence.

[MammaStar]

I believe that I have a few. My two best buds in the enitre world are my friends Joey & Spencer. When I met Joey, I just *knew* we were going to be friends. We met up at a (no laughing...too hard) Dead show in Vermont. It felt like we had been friends forever. Same with Spence. But Spence, well, he's a way different story. I first saw Spence at a Dead show, but not in person. A real good friend of his had his pic out on a board, asking people to write to him. This was back in 1995 (just 2 months before Jerry died :( ). He's currently finishing out a 10 year sentence in Colorado. His smile was irresitable, so I wrote him. We wrote for a long time & I eventually went out to visit him. He was in IL at the time. The moment we saw each other, we knew we'd be friends forever. It's just how we are. Me, Spence & Joey, stand by each other for better or worse.

Then there's my cat, who passed away when my son was born. My cat and I were best of pals. So, no, Flaire, I don't think you are nuts. My cat knew everything about me and always knew when I needed him. I missed him terribly and I think the reason why we have our new cat, is because my old one sent him here.

This leads me to Eshallet, who I love very VERY much. I don't know if we're soul mates. But I did experience the feeling of knowing him my entire life when i first met him. He's strong & amazing. Funny. All the things I cherish about spence & joey.

So, like everyone has said, I believe in them & they don't have to be romantic people in your life. friends, pets, family.

[Psyche Ague]

It may be just wishful thinking, but I like to believe that there are soulmates and the like. I don't mean that you're "meant to be" or "MFEO" (hehe, fans of "Sleepless in Seattle" - the only romantic comedy I like - will know that one) or anything like that, I believe that it's a connection of recognition and friendship even before you are actually friends or even know each other well. It's like, "bam."

Yeah.

[Myst]

Some people believe your familiar can be a soul mate or spirit guide you've spent other lives with who joins you in this one.

[Xander67]

I dont know what I believe anymore on this one LOL
my life experience has been changeing my views on this back and forth alot in the past year or so, but then again, in light of recent events (he heh* sad face) i prolly shouldnt even be reading in this thread much less commenting

[Kian]

on many levels.

For example, my best friend Amber (who posts here as Wych of Avalon) is my soul sister, more than a friend. We've gone through other lives together definitely.

I feel that my daughter has been my child before. When I first held her (at 6 months, my children are adopted) she gazed up at me with a look that said 'finally you're back mom i've been waiting!'. She definitely has been here before LOL as opposed to my youngest, this is his first go 'round I think.

Then there is my soul mate that is my heart. I've dreamt about him since I was 2 years old (30 long years). We've only just *officially* met this year and while we aren't together yet, everything is pointing to that becoming a reality soon. There is just stuff to get through. I know we've always been together, there is no doubt about it. The look on his face when we met said it all LOL

[Xander67]

now that I can believe in,
sounds like a fairy tale to me though :( but hey here where I work the theme is "its a fairy tale new year!"








I'm on a ride and I wanna get off , but they wont slow down the roundabout!.................Where are they when i need them? they helped me get through my teen years

[Radocs]

As romantic of a notion as it is, I don't believe in soulmates.

[Myst]

Ok we heard why people do believe.

How about you guys that don't. Why don't you believe?

[Xander67]

I guess what i was trying to say was, I was Dissallusioned












Something on my mind, breaking open doors I sealed up before, something on my mind, makes me run when I thought I, run too far..........*sighs I miss my 7 and the ragged tiger CD :(

[MammaStar]

OT TiME!!!!

Xander, want me to burn you a copy?? I have nearly every single Duran Duran right now.

I know return you back to your normal thread......

[Xander67]

youd' do that fer me? *sniff

[mato]

1. The purpose of multiple lives is to learn and grow, that is not possible with a clingy soul mate from a past life dragging you down.
2. Humans arent meant to mate for life, they are only meant to form tribes for the sake of the children, not pair bonds. Pair bonds creates a problem as the two have successfully eliminated their best hope for the survival of their genes.
3. What are the advantages to having a soul mate? I dont see one and as above so below indicates that we evolved simotaniously with our physical species, I see no need for a soul mate, there is no advantage that I see.
4. the idea of one soul to a body is a new one, there used to be any were from three to hundreds even thousands to each individual. Am I to believe that each of these souls has a mate as well, and that they formed into a single individual too, I mean that is fine when you are talking about three, I could handle three soul mates or three souls forming into one being by chance your soul mate, but what about seven? ten? twenty? I dont think I want that many people around me let alone mated to a part of me! Take into consideration that the animal soul might also have multiple mates. I hold to seven souls, now that is fine, seven soul mates I could handle, a 'twin flame' I doubt.
5. What if your soul mate has moved on are you to yern for them instead of finding a mate and fulfilling your biological imparitive? what if they have moved on are you to then give up completely and suffer in eternal deppression because they keep getting farther and farther away (the flip side to 1).
6. What about those who need to learn to be alone? I dont think that the idea of a soul mate is very appealing when you are to face a lifetime of solitude.
7. I am complete in and of myself, there is nothing missing (well maybe a heart... but still) the idea of a soul mate, of two becoming one as if they were half before, breeds co dependance. Dependance is weakness weakness is death death is not something to be rushed into, neither is life for that matter.
8. What about 'two spirits' (gay, bi) people. In native american belief it is held that they have two souls, male and female, are we then to end up without a soul mate out there because we are already mated in one body. Oh that is an interesting idea... What if two spirits are those people who have found their soul mates in a past life and the two became one... Two spirits are held to have a special relationship with the other worlds and are said to have 'power' beyond even that of the shamans, held as prophets and praised for their work... Hmmm... Very interesting... So every one strives to be gay! :lol: Isnt that the natural conclusion of finding a soul mate, binding into one form creating a whole new being, who's sexuality is perhaps derived from both souls, or become different to that of the 'mateless souls'... Which then can create by itself.
Interestingly enough this is also the rational and emotional conclusion to the evolution of the soul, the 'as above so below', we evolve into duel divinities ourselves... oh crap I've lost myself :lol:

Conclusion I dont believe in soul mates, that might be because of my rational logical mind and my emotional chaotic mind finaly agree on something or I am the end conclusion of the search for a soul mate, I am already mated into this body and I dont need to search any more (not particularly seperate from the first option)... So I am either a non believer by choice or by necessity... :lol:
Imo

[Myst]

Ok...


Originally posted by mato
1. The purpose of multiple lives is to learn and grow, that is not possible with a clingy soul mate from a past life dragging you down.

I don't know about you, but my friends, familiar, family, and fiance, don't "drag me down". We learn things from eachother and with eachother all the time. Further, nothing says you have to have soulmates forever, or at all if you don't want/need them.


Originally posted by mato
2. Humans arent meant to mate for life, they are only meant to form tribes for the sake of the children, not pair bonds. Pair bonds creates a problem as the two have successfully eliminated their best hope for the survival of their genes.

Soul mates aren't just mates who procreate.


Originally posted by mato
3. What are the advantages to having a soul mate? I dont see one and as above so below indicates that we evolved simotaniously with our physical species, I see no need for a soul mate, there is no advantage that I see.

Too bad for you. What's the advantage of having friends, family, or significant others in this life? Do all things that exist do so out of necessity (hairspray, motion lamps, beefsteak fries, I could go on)?


Originally posted by mato
4. the idea of one soul to a body is a new one, there used to be any were from three to hundreds even thousands to each individual.

According to whom? I have never met anyone who even suggested they had more then one soul, at least unless they were MPD.


Originally posted by mato
5. What if your soul mate has moved on are you to yern for them instead of finding a mate and fulfilling your biological imparitive?

Nope. Not anymore then that friend who moved 7 hours away makes you yearn for them forever. You may keep in touch, you may move your separate ways. Soul mates don't have to last forever, nor do you have to rely on them.


Originally posted by mato
6. What about those who need to learn to be alone? I dont think that the idea of a soul mate is very appealing when you are to face a lifetime of solitude.

Who says everyone has to have a soulmate in this lifetime?


Originally posted by mato
7. I am complete in and of myself, there is nothing missing (well maybe a heart... but still) the idea of a soul mate, of two becoming one as if they were half before, breeds co dependance.

See above two points. Just because you may not need/want a soul mate doesn't mean they don't exist anymore then the fact that I don't want a pet rat means they stop existing.


Originally posted by mato
8. What about 'two spirits' (gay, bi) people. In native american belief it is held that they have two souls, male and female, are we then to end up without a soul mate out there because we are already mated in one body.

You already did the "multiple soul" thing. Again, nowhere does it say everyone needs a soulmate, that if you don't want/need one they don't exist, or that it's necessarily possible for people to have multiple souls (or any soul at all, technically).

</encouraging discussion>

[mato]

Originally posted by Myst
I don't know about you, but my friends, familiar, family, and fiance, don't "drag me down". We learn things from eachother and with eachother all the time. Further, nothing says you have to have soulmates forever, or at all if you don't want/need them.
Ok well thats nice you have never met a clingy person either, and you apparently agree enough to coexist with people that you can stand, good for you. I however find that while I grow people around me tend to try to stop that so I shed them like a layer of dead skin.


Soul mates aren't just mates who procreate.
cool, I still dont believe in them. From what I have heard from 'friends' and 'family' that is what is expected a soul mate to be.




Too bad for you. What's the advantage of having friends, family, or significant others in this life? Do all things that exist do so out of necessity (hairspray, motion lamps, beefsteak fries, I could go on)?
I should probably have included that I dont believe in love either so everything in my life does have a perpose otherwise it is useless and there fore a frivolous waste of time.


According to whom? I have never met anyone who even suggested they had more then one soul, at least unless they were MPD.
Well now you have. I have never met a person who has thought they had one soul! What do you think the 'animal guide' is?


Nope. Not anymore then that friend who moved 7 hours away makes you yearn for them forever. You may keep in touch, you may move your separate ways. Soul mates don't have to last forever, nor do you have to rely on them.
again the pop culture idea of a soul mate, I should specify these things...


Who says everyone has to have a soulmate in this lifetime?
everyone
again pop culture...


See above two points. Just because you may not need/want a soul mate doesn't mean they exist anymore then the fact that I don't want a pet rat means they stop existing.
:D quantom machanics, the universe is continuely shapped by our minds interaction with minute particals that are the foundation of all creation... Voodoo, pop culture, mystisism, and several other cultures. If I dont want rats I dont see the rats and the rats cease to exist. :D


You already did the "multiple soul" thing. Again, nowhere does it say everyone needs a soulmate, that if you don't want/need one they don't exist, or that it's necessarily possible for people to have multiple souls (or any soul at all, technically).
Didnt you just get done saying the opposite? Yes I did the multiple soul thing but I didnt do it in that way!

</encouraging discussion>
A noble goal! IMO

[Myst]

Originally posted by mato
Ok well thats nice you have never met a clingy person either, and you apparently agree enough to coexist with people that you can stand, good for you. I however find that while I grow people around me tend to try to stop that so I shed them like a layer of dead skin.

If I have it's not because they were a soul mate, I can tell ya that much :D


Originally posted by mato
cool, I still dont believe in them. From what I have heard from 'friends' and 'family' that is what is expected a soul mate to be.

Read the rest of this thread.


Originally posted by mato
I should probably have included that I dont believe in love either so everything in my life does have a perpose otherwise it is useless and there fore a frivolous waste of time.

Hm I'm confused. You don't believe in love so everything in your life has a purpose, otherwise life is a waste of time?


Originally posted by mato
Well now you have. I have never met a person who has thought they had one soul! What do you think the 'animal guide' is?

An animal guide would probably be an animal - could be a totem, a familiar, or the spirit of a passed animal that stays with you. A familiar is a pet or animal that you feel kinship with, that can help add energy to a working, help you learn things, or let you see the world from their eyes. A totem is an animal who you feel kinship with or who's energy and teachings can help you through a situation or life. Animal spirits often stay with you because they don't want to go on yet, or perhaps they don't know they're dead.

What do you think they are?


Originally posted by mato
everyone again pop culture...


Read this thread. No one here has said that. I've never actually heard that myself either. I have breasts, you don't, that doesn't mean mine don't exist.


Originally posted by mato
If I dont want rats I dont see the rats and the rats cease to exist.

Oh I see, I guess you don't exist, I can't see you.



Originally posted by mato
Didnt you just get done saying the opposite? Yes I did the multiple soul thing but I didnt do it in that way!

Yup, I missed the word "don't" the first time.

[mato]

Originally posted by Myst
If I have it's not because they were a soul mate, I can tell ya that much :D
lol


Read the rest of this thread.
I was answering the idea of soul mates not particularly pagan ideas of soul mates as I am not around alot of pagans.


Hm I'm confused. You don't believe in love so everything in your life has a purpose, otherwise life is a waste of time?
No no I dont believe in love so I use what I have to the fullest without the excesses that most enjoy/use under the guise of 'love', hence everthing in my life has a perpose and a function, even if that function is purely pleasure.


An animal guide would probably be an animal - could be a totem, a familiar, or the spirit of a passed animal that stays with you. A familiar is a pet or animal that you feel kinship with, that can help add energy to a working, help you learn things, or let you see the world from their eyes. A totem is an animal who you feel kinship with or who's energy and teachings can help you through a situation or life. Animal spirits often stay with you because they don't want to go on yet, or perhaps they don't know they're dead.
What do you think they are?
I thought that was obvious but oh well... They are the animal soul, one of seven I believe in, and while some might be pets or spirit guides the real power animal/familiar/first and life animal guide is the animal spirit that shares the same body soul (another of the seven) as you do. Residing in the under world under the protection of the god of death when we die it dies when it dies we die, the protection of the god of death comes with a price as our animal spirit will be, when our time comes, a part of his feast. Ehecatl's (Ehecatl being the prophet/god of wind by the title feathered serpent) animal soul was believed to be the featherd serpent (a beautiful bird that appears to be a serpant with wings as if flies overhead) that drank from a bone protruding from his head that bled. This follows with the old belief in a 'devil's mark' and 'imps' which are said to drink from the 'devils mark' and serve as a witch's familiar, and amoungst other 'primitive' cultures this belief is common. The similarities are uncanny, both serve as a 'helper spirit' seperate in all aspects other than the sharing of a body soul. In some cultures it is believed that one could possess more than one animal soul but at birth their was only one, this leads me to believe that these extra souls are animal guides and not actually sharing in the body soul. But I am wandering...:devil:


Read this thread. No one here has said that. I've never actually heard that myself either. I have breasts, you don't, that doesn't mean mine don't exist.
what I cant add a new demension to it? I never said yours dont exist I said that I dont believe in them, my non belief shouldnt interfere with your beliefs or non beliefs, I create my own reality, you create yours, never the tween should meet, although they do if only online... Oops sorry I shouldnt have said anything, fairys only exist if every one believes they do, the same might be true of soul mates, than again my saying that might actually make it true were as before it wasnt! lol, I should shut up before I 'uncreate' the universe through my non belief. :lol:


Oh I see, I guess you don't exist, I can't see you.
Um missing the point, I exist if only becaue I think I do, as I was first precieved by some one who thought I did, you exist if only you think you do going back to the first perception and what it precieved, and to me you exist only if I 'feel' the reprocussions of your actions and vice vera. Now lets get theoretical/phillosophical, if we exist only because we are precieved to exist and if all exists only because it is precieved to exist what first thought to see? If a dead tree falls in the dead woods and no life is around does it even exist? Did the first thought that precieved us into existance still exist itself or is it waiting to be precieved in turn, because I precieve it as a theoretical possibility does it now exist in reality or must it be felt in perception? Did I just create the universe in my theoretcal perception of the first thing to precieve? How does one precieve nothing? Does nothing then cease to exist as it has been precieved?


Yup, I missed the word "don't" the first time.

cool I guess.

[Myst]

Originally posted by mato
I was answering the idea of soul mates not particularly pagan ideas of soul mates as I am not around alot of pagans.

Psst you're on a Pagan board which is home to 1890 Pagans.


Originally posted by mato
No no I dont believe in love so I use what I have to the fullest without the excesses that most enjoy/use under the guise of 'love', hence everthing in my life has a perpose and a function, even if that function is purely pleasure.

Off topic but the function of love is pleasure.



Originally posted by mato
I thought that was obvious but oh well...

Not really, I've never heard nor read anything you said in that entire paragraph in my life. What belief system does it come from?



Originally posted by mato
what I cant add a new demension to it? I never said yours dont exist I said that I dont believe in them, my non belief shouldnt interfere with your beliefs or non beliefs, I create my own reality, you create yours, never the tween should meet, although they do if only online... Oops sorry I shouldnt have said anything, fairys only exist if every one believes they do, the same might be true of soul mates, than again my saying that might actually make it true were as before it wasnt! lol, I should shut up before I 'uncreate' the universe through my non belief.

Nope faeries exist whether you believe they do or not, that's my point. I don't think I was the one who decided that soulmates don't exist because I don't have one. Wait, wait, that was you! I was the one who said they DO exist regardless of what you believe. And don't worry, you certainly aren't interfering with my belief at all.



Originally posted by mato
Does nothing then cease to exist as it has been precieved?

This whole paragraph goes back to the Theology & Philosophy forum and discussions on reality. There is ultimate reality, then there's perceptive reality. The former exists regardless of the latter. Meaning, whether you perceive yourself or I perceive you or no one does you exist in ultimate reality. It reminds me of the whole argument of whether the universe exists because we are here to observe it, and I say no.

The universe exists in ultimate reality, whether we're hear to see it or not. If a tree falls in a forest and no one sees it fall of course it exists. Go into the woods a week later and hope it didn't knock down that stacked wood you were going to pick up. Does it make a sound? Certainly, since sound is vibration and the tree hitting the ground made a vibration great enough that it caused sound, and also because even though you were there doesn't mean the squirrels didn't hear it. That doesn't mean I'm just going to assume it did having never seen that it has or heard from someone else that it has (ie. I don't believe that "anything is possible"), but if someone reliable tells me it has or I see that it has then I believe it is possible. Science before philosophy for me.

[Danustouch]

Well, It seems here, that we have a problem of the definition of soul mate. Mato seems to define a soul mate as the individual whom you are "Destined" to be with, as a "Mate". But, as many of us have said earlier in this thread, that is not the only definition of a soul mate.

Soulmates, are people who we are destined to meet, for whatever reason, at various points in our lives, IMO. They are the beings who move in and out of our life, but leave a HUGE impact, emotionally, and spiritually. They are the type of people we recognize as having an uncommon bond with us.

For instance, my soul mate, or Anam Cara. All logic and reason would say that we should not have ever met. Why? At the time we met, he was a huge corporate, egomaniac, socialite. Not that there is anything wrong with that..but..It's who he is. Buisness meetings, Suits, Dinner Parties at French Restaurants with Other similarly rich and power driven individuals, Republican, and Catholic. He was all those things. Me? Umm..at the time, entry level data entry. HA! Fashion Police top ten most wanted, hippie-like, pagan, greenparty. See what I mean? We were pretty much diametrically opposed in lifestyle, beliefs, social circles, etc. And yet, when we met, there was an instant sort of recognition. And bond. We should have hated eachother, or at least, decided we had nothing at all in common, and walked the other way. But we didn't. We kept calling eachother, kept visiting with eachother...and in very short time, I became the person he called, to talk about his deepest emotions with. And I became the same thing. He never "Approved" on a surface level, of my belief system. Never understood it. Wondered why I couldn't be more.."NORMAL". And yet...whenever I had a problem, he was always there encouraging me. He also told me often, how beautiful a soul I was. In many ways, I taught him. I helped him get in touch with his more..umm..spiritual side. His more..genuine self. He could talk to me, and feel free to talk about the unexplained stuff of this world, or he could feel free to talk about his insecurities. He could visit me without dressing up, or inviting me out to a fancy restaurant, bearing fancy gifts. Likewise, when I spoke to him, I didn't need to be perfectly PC. I could be just who I was, whenever I wanted. If I didn't WANT to talk about spirituality, for instance. If I wanted to tell very Un-PC jokes, If I wanted to be a complete nut, or vent really angry feelings, or selfish feelings. I could DO that with him. And it never ever changed the way that he felt about me. Nor did him being the authentic HIM change the way I felt about him. We were very best friends, right from the first...where all in nature would seem to tell us, we should have never met, or never become friends.

So why did it work? The two of us have always wondered that. We've come to the conclusion..me, the pagan woman, he the catholic republican male. That we MUST have known eachother in a previous lifetime, or have some sort of spiritual link of some sort. For HIM to aknowledge this..is quite a huge deal. He usually thinks that all of that stuff is "Crazy Talk".

So...at one point, he was my absolute closest friend. We talked every single night. Then, I met my husband. So now, things are a little differen't. I moved away, he is engaged, I am married, etc. We don't talk every day. But the bond remains. When He's upset, I can feel it from here. Same with him. We often dream of eachother, and then the next day one of us will call the other. We start thinking of the other person, and all of a sudden, they call. Things like that, are not random coincidence. If they were, why has it only really happened with this one individual in my life?
And why with an individual who is so vastly differen't than myself?

This is why I believe in Soul Mates. A Soul Mate doesn't mean the person you Marry, or the Person you Pro-create with. And please don't use that term "Pop-Culture" again. Because even in pop culture, there are many definitions of what a soul mate is. Since a soul mate is an abstract term, it can't be defined within a certain group of limits. Anyway....A soul mate, in my opinion, is someone you meet, who lifts you up, allows you to be totally blunt with them, loves you for even alllllll of those rough spots in life, helps you to become a more "rounded" individual, who you feel a sort of spiritual recognition and bond with, etc.

[Xander67]

Mato

quantom machanics, the universe is continuely shapped by our minds interaction with minute particals that are the foundation of all creation... Voodoo, pop culture, mystisism, and several other cultures. If I dont want rats I dont see the rats and the rats cease to exist

:o are you calling nsync and Brittny Spears figmants of my imagination :(

:( hey! Why didnt anyone out of the 5 million ppl in New York City think of that one, think of the money they would have saved in pest control..........then again, it would put lotz of people outa work....:D

[Myst]

I think of soul mates simply as souls that may come into lives with you repeatedly.

You don't necessarily get along with them.

They teach you things, you teach them things. I have a friend who in one life in the burning times was revealed as a witch by other friends. *shrugs*

Pop culture also dictates that silicone breasts and skimpy outfits on women who do nothing then dance around in a lewd way are the be all and end all. :D

[mato]

Originally posted by Myst
Psst you're on a Pagan board which is home to 1890 Pagans.
Dont get me started, I would offend 99.999% of you and that other .oo1 would be too chicken sh*t to accept it so I prefer not to express my opinions on that matter at this time.

Off topic but the function of love is pleasure. what fairy tale are you living in, love is pain. What night mare am I living in? one of my own creation thank you! lol

Not really, I've never heard nor read anything you said in that entire paragraph in my life. What belief system does it come from?
Aztec mayan incan native american pacific native cultures, I have seen traces of it in voodoo (voudou vudoo voodou what ever you choose to spell it as) scandanavian cults, european cults, early (way back before abraham) middle eastern cults, hindu, buddhism, shinto and Jappenese (sp?) cults, too name a few. It was basic to me, I am suprised you have never heard of it. I first learned of it from my father, I then found it in its strongest most complete form in the aztec/nahuatl culture... I am shocked that you havent read anything like it before, cause it is basic to me, I see traces in alot of neo-pagan writings... I mean damn what you have never read the witch's hammer?! How bout myth's I see these in an incredably diluted form in the myths of greece and in a stronger form in buddha mythology. Read up on some aztec mythology and I think you will see it, than again I could be wrong and you wont. Aztec and Nahuatl are from which I draw my path, so that is your best bet to see it... but damn never?! It is elementary :lol: stuff.

Nope faeries exist whether you believe they do or not, that's my point. I don't think I was the one who decided that soulmates don't exist because I don't have one. Wait, wait, that was you! I was the one who said they DO exist regardless of what you believe. And don't worry, you certainly aren't interfering with my belief at all.
In your system, Not mine.

This whole paragraph goes back to the Theology & Philosophy forum and discussions on reality. There is ultimate reality, then there's perceptive reality. The former exists regardless of the latter. Meaning, whether you perceive yourself or I perceive you or no one does you exist in ultimate reality. It reminds me of the whole argument of whether the universe exists because we are here to observe it, and I say no.

The universe exists in ultimate reality, whether we're hear to see it or not. If a tree falls in a forest and no one sees it fall of course it exists. Go into the woods a week later and hope it didn't knock down that stacked wood you were going to pick up. Does it make a sound? Certainly, since sound is vibration and the tree hitting the ground made a vibration great enough that it caused sound, and also because even though you were there doesn't mean the squirrels didn't hear it. That doesn't mean I'm just going to assume it did having never seen that it has or heard from someone else that it has (ie. I don't believe that "anything is possible"), but if someone reliable tells me it has or I see that it has then I believe it is possible. Science before philosophy for me.

again your belief system, not mine (which is why I scored so high on the buddhasm thing on the belief-o-matic), in mine there is no reality beyond perception, you wouldnt exist to me if you werent on this website, you wouldnt exist to the world if you werent precieved at/as conception as/at the hope/fear for a child from that union and the belief that a child was possible from that union, hence the perception/conception of you and me and every one who reads this who have been precieved/consived. And that one is just mine (I think) not from aztec/nahuatl theology.

xander67- yes that is my ultimate goal the complete non perception of pop rock! Muahahahaha

Danustouch-
a very weird idea to me, a soul mate is some one whom you are destined to meet with (dont believe in destiny either :lol: ) that changes your life for better (or worse) ultimately to effect changes and growth in your soul?! My gods, that is just normal interaction with me or any one for that matter, there are two types of people fertilizer and sun light :lol:, their interaction with you changes your life and makes you grow, however once interaction is complete there is no need for them so they are of no further use, thus they should be disgarded in favor of better fertilizer and stronger sun light (or the opposite if growth is too fast for your type of soul/plant [another of my funky beliefs]) that does not constitute a soul mate for me, that might be your definition but then by deffinition I am mated with every one I meet/talk to because it is very unlikely that we would interact and hence there must be something spiritual about me and them that facilitated the contact! Oppisites attrackt, past that it is all chemistry and biological imparitives. So again I state I dont believe in soul mates of any kind.
and let's not discus pop culture and (neo-)paganism, atleast not with me, because yet again I will offend 99.999% of you with my views.

[Myst]

Originally posted by mato
Dont get me started, I would offend 99.999% of you and that other .oo1 would be too chicken sh*t to accept it so I prefer not to express my opinions on that matter at this time.

Hehe dude, I know that story.


Originally posted by mato
what fairy tale are you living in, love is pain. What night mare am I living in? one of my own creation thank you! lol

The fairytale where I'm living happily ever after with my fiance. hehe.


Originally posted by mato
Aztec and Nahuatl are from which I draw my path, so that is your best bet to see it... but damn never?! It is elementary

Sorry not into that Voodoo stuff man :) Or Aztec. I'm into Norse stuff, Graeco Roman, Italian, some Native American. Doesn't really have a place in Green Witchcraft at all. Tho your saying that does explain a few things.


Originally posted by mato
In your system, Not mine.

Yup, I don't recall contesting that one.

Cool that you have your own way too, as far as no pair bonds, blah blah blah n stuff. I think you've answered the question anyway. I enjoyed the convo and all.

Ok, share people!

[amberlaine]

For the record, Mato, I'd be interested in hearing what you think is going ot be offensive to 99.999% of the board. I have something of a track record for pissing people off, so I like to know where my competition is ;)

[Myst]

hehe.

[mato]

Originally posted by amberlaine
For the record, Mato, I'd be interested in hearing what you think is going ot be offensive to 99.999% of the board. I have something of a track record for pissing people off, so I like to know where my competition is ;)

Thanks but I will keep my head for today, mabe when I get tired of this place I will share (and then duck out as people alert the hunting parties).

Myst I am sorry I dont follow how does it not fit into green witchcraft and what does it explain? I am curious as to your reasoning behind that statement.

[amberlaine]

Well, PM me if you feel so inclined. It is my experience that I learn the most when challenged by ideas that most people won't accept. It's gotten me this far, and I like where I"m headed!

[Myst]

Originally posted by mato
Myst I am sorry I dont follow how does it not fit into green witchcraft and what does it explain? I am curious as to your reasoning behind that statement.

Because the way I practice green witchcraft doesn't coincide with Aztec/Voodoo beliefs. *shrugs*

[mato]

Originally posted by Myst
Because the way I practice green witchcraft doesn't coincide with Aztec/Voodoo beliefs. *shrugs*

I dont practice the way you are seeing it, there are no blood sacrifices in my path, I have bled enough for this lifetime and I am a vegitarian so that I dont eat some one elses animal soul! I take great pains to harm none. I follow the way of the Xochipilli- xochitl/xoxoctic tlacatl 'flower/green man' who came before cortez who spoke of the sacrifice of xochime (flowers) as the only one fitting the gods (and he spoke of the demon cortez as a warning/prophecey), I dont practice animal or human sacrifice. It is very green, herbalism is key to it (though there is no drug use as I dont condon that sort of action in others or myself) and the gods have all been 'updated' that problem has been patched with my path, I follow Guadalupe (the goddess of mothers and children the wounded and harmed also known as the serpent crusher and the goddess of the americas) and Xochiquetzal (goddess of sex and stinky flowers, the path of the 'flower man' the mate to the 'green man') and some gods/spirits who dont get anything more than a summer flower from me!
Yes there are still alot of the old ways in there (except sacrifices) but that is how I was raised, that is my path. I follow the older ways (the days before the sacrifices) by following Ometeotl above all others, and they (as Ometeotl is duel divinity at its finest) never recieved any sacrifices, human or otherwise, because they are beyond that.

I am tired of the fear reaction already, and it's only happend thrice (that I have seen in person, all of which were the three people I bothered to tell...)! Am I to face this for the rest of my days? I know I chose an od path to follow one that only those raised around it know of and understand but come on it's not all that different from modern witchcraft.

[Myst]

I see.

Like I said, I don't know much (really, pretty much nothing) about that anyway.

[mato]

Originally posted by Myst
I see.

Like I said, I don't know much (really, pretty much nothing) about that anyway.

Well sorry I will shut up about it now after this last post, but if you have any questions or concerns please pm me or email me, I think I reactivated it. I really dont like being miss understood by people, and it really bothers me that more often than not i am. So please if something is bothering you about something I said feel free to ask I will be happy to answer any questions or concerns you may have. Ok I'll shut up now.

[Danustouch]

Mato...I see the reason that you "Discard" people when you are "DONE" with them. It seems like anytime, anyone poses a thought or question that you do not happen to agree with...you always seem to know the ..umm.."RIGHT" way. That can get very frustrating in relationships...I'm sure.

Now..as for your 99.9% thing, and pop culture....I already understand what you meant by that. And to tell the truth, yes, there are some people around on the net, who suddenly become pagan, because it's the "COOL" thing to do. But there are others of us, who've done the research BEFORE coming to paganism, or who have studied other paths BEFORE deciding to become Pagan, or who came to it later in life, because it explained things to us, that we could not explain by way of other paths, and it seemed right for us.

Therefore, I think it is harmful to throw such generalizations about..or even to think them. This religion, as all others, has its true believers and followers, and those amongst it who are only there for a time, or as a fad. You cannot sit as judge and jury, above any of us..whom you DO not know. Nuff Said.

And I wonder, why is it that you pounce on people, immediately jumping to the conclusion that THEY were jumping to conclusions about you? I didn't hear ANYONE say that we thought you, or your path, performs blood sacrifices, or runs around harming anyone. So..why are you so quick to take the defensive? That must suck...to always feel ready for someone to strike a blow...eh?

As for that whole opposites attract type thing..heheh..You obviosly don't know me. I don't only associate with people who are exactly like me. BUT usually, when somebodys belief systems clash so severely with mine, I make a habit of not hanging around with them. It's not that I wouldn't hang around with a Christian, or a Bhuddist, or a Republican. But I probably wouldn't hang around with a Christian, Pro-life, Republican, Gun approving, person, because I wouldn't have much in common to talk about with them, first of all, and secondly, I'd find that too often, the things that they said either offended me so deeply, or was so far out of my world view, that there would be no meeting in the middle. Heck, I've gone years without speaking to some family members because every time I got around them, they wound up offending my belief systems. So..I'm not so sure about the opposites attracting thing. It really does NOT usually work for me.

[Haedis]

wow this topic seems to have broadened a bit from the last time i looked. whew.

[mato]

Yes I do pounce at the first sign of sh*t and that is what works for me, often it is the first strike that is the last, and I would prefer to be the one left standing. And many people who sound an awefully lot like you have said such simmilar things :lol: but I am not one to be on the defensive for long! :T I must have seemed unduly tense, but only because the two that were picked out from the many were those in which pop culture (yes that again) has instilled to believe are all blood guts and gore with tiny smaterings of religion to satisfy those who would question it. Sorry on some issues I am just pouncey, on others I could really care less. Inner peace is for those with no will to survive. Again on the defensive I 'discard' people when they get in my way or inhibit me in any way shape or form this is not to say that they cant have thier own opinions and this is definately not to say 'it's my way or the high way' it is just that I wont be held down by people no matter what the cost. Often I put up with people's insolent ideas and smug stupidity :lol: just kidding, I couldnt help but add that.(bad sense of humor I know... I found it funny though)

You said you weren't the oppisites attract kind of person so instead of pouncing I will simply say sure ok. Believe what you choose, life's more fun that way.

Um your telling ME what to think now?! Uh huh I dont think so, I am judge and jury when it comes to people I encounter, simple as that. No I am not above any of you however I do choose who I will affiliate myself with and who I will not. I never claimed to be non judgemental, just accepting of others faiths as their personal choice, that doesnt mean I am not going to judge them based on their actions and words. Dont pull the stones in a glass house bs because we both know that every one every were is fair game for the stones and we would be so lucky as to have a glass house for protection. There is no problem when judging, just judging unfairly. I know that sounds bad but to a culture of 'do what feels good without thought to conciquences' (which you may or may not be a part of but you are deffinently influenced by if you have a television or internet access, i am influenced by it and it has served to strengthn my morals and character, there is nothing bad about influence so long as you always remain in control.) reality always sounds like a bad idea. (oh there it is again.)

[Danustouch]

You may judge people who you encounter in your real life...or even judge people who you encounter over the internet, if they are blatantly misinformed.

But..the idea, that you, could sit in judgement of me, or any one of the more than a thousand other people on this board, judge our spiritual walks, paths, and knowledge, when really, you've never even spoken to us one on one, only read a blurb or two hear or there, in a bulletin board..would be considered.."Premature Judgement" at the very least.

[AradiaSupernova]

wow. never thought my one lil question would turn into this big discussion. hehe :)

[Xander67]

Originally posted by mato


Thanks but I will keep my head for today, mabe when I get tired of this place I will share (and then duck out as people alert the hunting parties).


Perhaps you might want to take a look at your reasons for being here then.....

do you want to talk about soulmates, or do you have something else you would like (need) to get off your chest :)

editied to add:

If you cant tell anyone your views, then how can you expect anyone to respect you for who you are when you wont even say whats on your mind....no one here is going to put you down for haveing an opinion, no one is going to like you less or insult you,
(not if they want to contine to post here) :)

[Siren]

I have met countless people that i know i knew in a past life....

Not all are "soulmates".....i feel my cat is it...when i saw him, i had to have him...and now he is my constant companion...following me around....and i totally adore him......we have a connection....

I had a connection with one guy, it was soooo strong....but, in this life there is no way we could ever be "together" even as friends, we'd kill each other....lol...but the connection was still there...and we both felt it.....

I had another connection...with another guy.....it was strange...i could feel when he was around....but theres no way we could be together either...

then there's my twin sister......*Grin*....to be twins, we had to have been together in a past life...

i don't think that in every life you will be with your soul mate....or even meet them.....you do when you are supposed to.....and when you need each other....

and then, there's my theory on soul splitting....i do believe that souls can split and become two.....that may make a new set of soul mates....or creat a soul "trio" of sorts if they already had a soul mate when the soul was one....or, they choose which one keeps the original soul mate....

i think that the idea of soul mates...or anything that deals with souls....are just relative to opinion....

but, when you meet someone you knew in a past life....you know it...you feel it....it's something that never leaves your heart....

[DreamSpell333]

My fiance and I both believe that we were soulmates, and were meant to meet each other.

We both used a certain chatroom which is no longer running . We'd never seen each other on it. I used to chat all the time, but i got sick of how you get guys who just want to talk dirty,and I wasn't there for that. well.. He had decided to stay home that day and happened to log onto the chatroom. We were both invited to another chatroom(which is different) where to ppl were getting "cyber" married . well, we started chatting, and found out we had a lot in common.after 3 months of chatting/talking on the phone. He asked me if he could meet me and my parents? He lived in philladelphia, which meant he would have to drive ALL the way from PA to NH to see me (which he did 4-5 times ) . I thought wow, if he's driving he can't be too bad, his pics were great,and he liked mine. so if he had not stayed home that day, we would have never meant. When we met it was like we already knew each other, and we've been together ever since. Were getting married sept of 2002 :)


:ahhhh::bubbles::wave:

[Kian]

That's lovely!!!!!!!!

[alyssa141]

yes, it is a lovely story :)

i have a similar story to that.. although i don't know if we're destined to be more than friends, i believe he is my soulmate. we've been chatting for a year and a half and i feel like i've known him my whole life. i've never told him that i thought he was my soulmate, though, because i think he would feel alittle awkward towards me, mainly because i think he believes soulmates are always romantically involved. but that is the jist of my little story.. really no point to it, just thought i'd share it with y'all. :)

[Litha]

The reason for earthbound existance is learning. Soul mates and twin flames help us with this journey.

The love of very close, kindred souls is that of soul mates.
Soul mates come together because they are working on mastering the same type of karma and developing the energies of the same chakra.
These spiritual energy centers within the body assist in the pull that each person feels to the other. Soul mates have an attraction based on sacred labor and attaining self-mastery.
A soul mate is like the echo of oneself in Matter working at the same task to fulfill a blueprint in Spirit.

Twin flames are two souls whose karmic (healing) and dharmic (service) unfoldment is matched so that they are able to serve Spirit and each other eternally, through that relationship.

Each type of relationship, Soul Mate and Twin Flame, will stay in a person's life until it has finished serving the purpose for which that soul called it forth.
Our relationships are personal healing modalities we have individually sought out to practice and develop being in relationship with Spirit and Diety.This is a celebration of the inner teacher, the immanence of diety, the "thou are god".

This connection continues even as the respective parties cease any conscious, physical contact, as is the case with deaths and divorces. Many individuals in these circumstances feel haunted by the memory of a deceased or estranged love as that the souls are still engaged in their mutually agreed upon service to each other. This karmic interaction and unfoldment transcend lifetimes.

a connected thread to this topic is in the Astrology Forum

http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?threadid=12416

[StormChaser]

Soul mates are eternal friends to me.

My best friend, my cat caligula, joy hanlon, these are eternal friends. We are as far as I am concerned, eternally tied together, nothing will ever change that. We make each other complete on one level or another.

I can say that my best friend provides the largest missing peice of my puzzle. There are still others, my circle is still open... but she has precedence. SIlly as that sounds to a lot of people, no love interest will ever take her place in my life, nor be allowed to come between us.

Our souls are connected by a bond surpassing friendship and love. I am nearly convinced we share the same blood.

~Storm Chaser

[Lunamoth]

In fact, I believe that more than one sould can be "connected" to you. Often it's that person who you feel like you've known forever after talking to them only a few minutes, it's that pet that you have such a special bond with you couldn't imagine ever being without them, that spirit that follows you around and seems such a comfort. Yeah, it's not altogether common but it's so incredible when you're open to it. :)

[Myst]

Originally posted by mato
I am tired of the fear reaction already, and it's only happend thrice (that I have seen in person, all of which were the three people I bothered to tell...)! Am I to face this for the rest of my days?[/B]

Incidentally I forgot about this, but when I said your beliefs don't coincide mine it was the same as saying, say, Christian or Jewish beliefs don't, or Wicca doesn't. It's not meant as an insult or a "fear reaction", but plain and simple fact. There's no harm in thinking differently.

As far as fear reaction, all Pagans are libel to face it at some time or another. Maybe it's your life's lesson to do that. Remember, you chose the path.

[slovene_gds]

MM~
Yes, I absolutely believe in soul mates. There are animals, friends, and lovers.
I currently have 2 people in my life that I believe to be soulmates and a cat who I feel very intertwined with.

[Raindancer]

I would say, yeah, but reluctantly, probably more so than I would have been maybe ten years ago or more. There are people that you meet that you feel an instant affinity with, but that can be a lot of things from wishful thinking to loneliness, or a real affinity.

I know that I can pretty much tell almost instantly if I'm going to get along with someone or not, but when you are talking soul mates, I think there are differing levels of that and just how deep it goes takes more time.

Also, I think that its a mistake to think that finding someone like that means that you are meant to be together. They ( like you) are an individual with their own path to travel, and maybe even though you may have the capability of being really close, your chosen paths might be in very different directions.

Finding a soul mate can be a cause for joy, but it doesn't come with any guarantees that anything can happen because of it.I think it can happen, but I don't get my hopes up that it will, and if it does happen, that it MUST lead to anything. It would be nice, but I'm not holding my breath.

Raindancer

[Raindancer]

I would say, yeah, but reluctantly, probably more so than I would have been maybe ten years ago or more. There are people that you meet that you feel an instant affinity with, but that can be a lot of things from wishful thinking to loneliness, or a real affinity.

I know that I can pretty much tell almost instantly if I'm going to get along with someone or not, but when you are talking soul mates, I think there are differing levels of that and just how deep it goes takes more time.

Also, I think that its a mistake to think that finding someone like that means that you are meant to be together. They ( like you) are an individual with their own path to travel, and maybe even though you may have the capability of being really close, your chosen paths might be in very different directions.

Finding a soul mate can be a cause for joy, but it doesn't come with any guarantees that anything can happen because of it.I think it can happen, but I don't get my hopes up that it will, and if it does happen, that it MUST lead to anything. It would be nice, but I'm not holding my breath.

Raindancer

[mydemand]

I am bumping a REALLY OLD THREAD here...forgive me!

For me soul mates are those that affect you - and your soul - in a MAJOR way. Sure, everyone you meet has an impact on you, but these people have come into your life in a big way, they ARE a part of your life, they affect almost every part of you, you can't seem to remember how you managed to live without them. They are INTEGRAL to your soul.

I know my soul mate...my closest friend, my mentor, my role model, my angel, my darling, my everything...the circumstances surrounding how we met are extraordinary and one-in-a-million (she was on TV and I was a fan that made a website!) but I am so thankful that I've got to know her, she is really a blessing. She teaches me a lot, she gives me insight into how life works, she's just been there for me, up and downs...for nine months we were separated beyond our control and I was missing her badly, it was like a part of me was dying. Usually for me it's "out of sight, out of mind", but with her...truly "absence makes the heart grow fonder". I've never yearned for anyone as much as I did her. So when we were finally reunited - BLISS! We actually got to talking about it, and she told me that she was drawn to me, was afraid at first (she's met creeps in her life and didn't want me to be one of them), but now she trusts me and believes that we were meant to meet. Often she tells me that we must have met in a past life somewhere. She is absolutely amazing. My true love.

(reading about Anam Cara...that just SO reminds me of her. It fits our situation perfectly! Thank you whomever found it in this thread!)

There are also friends of mine that I feel some sort of a soul connection to..."we were meant to meet" kind of thing...I met one of my dear friends earlier this year in college, had a crush on him (ahaha) and somehow we became really good friends - thanks to a skit I did during Orientation when I acted AS him! XD Recently I got to see the more human, private side of him...how we had more in common that we first thought...and I realized that somehow we were meant to meet in some way. I needed someone to celebrate; he needed to be celebrated. We get along really well, and I can't wait to meet him again in a couple of weeks! :D

There was also an ex-friend of mine whom I connected with strongly...unfortunately she turned on me and things got into a mess and we're not friends anymore. But I'm not going to deny the impact she's had on my life.

We are all connected...may you find your soul mate one day...and may you two be happy.

B*B, Tiara