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Kendrah
December 27th, 2005, 06:12 PM
I've dabbled with this ritual a bit out of Don (somethings) book, the magic of thelema (or thelma, something like that.) I'm wondering what the benefits of doing the LBRP's daily is, from your experience.

Thanks ya'll's.

sidhe
December 27th, 2005, 06:14 PM
The main benefit I've noticed from daily practice of the LBRP is that it increases your focus, as well as your connection to the elemental forces. Plus, the longer you do it, the more you notice the complexity of the ritual, and the more meaning you see in every step.

Kendrah
December 29th, 2005, 10:36 AM
Anyone else?

:bumpsmili

magickman12
December 29th, 2005, 09:40 PM
The LBRP serves as an introduction to higher magickal skills and a greater depth of vision. It serves to balance the elemental forces within and without. I tacts as a protective barrier against excessive elements, such as having too much emotion in your life. It is highly adaptable to any belief system; I use a version adapted to my own beliefs. For best results, it should be combined with the BRH and the MPR. Hope this helps!
MM12

RainInanna
December 29th, 2005, 09:41 PM
For me it was about discipline and purity. Discipline in order to memorize it and do it regularly, and I found it's still the best way for me to create a totally purified space in which to do anything else.

Kendrah
December 29th, 2005, 09:53 PM
The LBRP serves as an introduction to higher magickal skills and a greater depth of vision. It serves to balance the elemental forces within and without. I tacts as a protective barrier against excessive elements, such as having too much emotion in your life. It is highly adaptable to any belief system; I use a version adapted to my own beliefs. For best results, it should be combined with the BRH and the MPR. Hope this helps!
MM12

Hm, what is the BRH and MPR?

Zebi
December 29th, 2005, 10:47 PM
Hm, what is the BRH and MPR?

The BRH is the Banishing Ritual of the Hexagram and the MPR is the Middle Pillar Ritual. From my Google search, I found "Greater" and "Lesser" versions of the Hexagram ritual. I'm not familiar with these rituals, so I'll let magickman12 fill you in on them.

From what I've read, it seems best that you start out with learning and practicing the Lower Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram first, and then add the other two exercises to your practice.

Seren_
December 30th, 2005, 07:56 PM
The BRH is the Banishing Ritual of the Hexagram and the MPR is the Middle Pillar Ritual. From my Google search, I found "Greater" and "Lesser" versions of the Hexagram ritual. I'm not familiar with these rituals, so I'll let magickman12 fill you in on them.

From what I've read, it seems best that you start out with learning and practicing the Lower Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram first, and then add the other two exercises to your practice.

Whereas the pentagram rituals work on a microcosmic scale, the hexagram rituals work on a macrocosmic scale (the pentagram representing man in the microcosm, the hexagram representing the macrocosm). The hexagram rituals fill in the gaps that the LBRP leaves, which is especially important for more complicated workings.

The Middle Pillar exercise is an excellent way to balance and cleanse energies within yourself. In some respects it's much like the Qabalistic Cross part of the LBRP, but more focused and specific. Generally, you perform it straight after the LBRP (if you want to do it).

Practising the LBRP daily helps to develop discipline for the practitioner. As well as being good protection (always a sensible precaution for someone who's starting to study magic), it helps to develop magical ability - through repetition but also through adaptation. Once you get good at doing it verbally/physically, you can go on to do it astrally.

sidhe
December 30th, 2005, 07:59 PM
The BRH is kind of like an improved LBRP, with a bit more "oomph" behind it, using elemental macrocosmic hexagrams. It's also more decidedly Thelemic than the LBRP. At least that's been my experience with the Lesser BRH.

The Middle Pillar is an energy focusing exercise that utilizes the Qabalistic associations of the middle pillar of the tree of life to connect one's self to the divine presence. Again, that's how it's worked in my experience.

Or you can read the post above me, which explained things in much better terms. I forget words like "macrocosm" sometimes. :)

punxzen
December 31st, 2005, 01:42 AM
hmm, for me it acts as a kind of yoga in which i unify my ego with the universe (the qabalistic cross), then it acts as a kind of veil which you can peak behind and find all kinds of fun occult games to play (through calling the angels and pretending like you are in a fort)

i recommend not using it as some form of protection when you really need the protection unless you have done it many many times and can wield it like an extension of your mind/will

WingedAepona
December 31st, 2005, 05:28 PM
Sorry I didn't get back to this thread to answer your question, Kendrah, but I see you have received very good answers already. I would just like to add that some pentagram/hexagram rituals can be used to attract elemental or planetery energies to your life, rather than banish them. This is very effective if you wish to take advantage of a Venus or Jupiter transit, because then these energies will already be present in your life.
Also, the Middle Pillar Ritual is great for "patching the holes in your aura" caused by being around the sick or depressed, thus stopping you from falling into the same state.

magickman12
December 31st, 2005, 05:34 PM
NOTE: The post above from WingedAepona is actually me, Kendrah, in case you were wondering what question you asked. I didn't realize that one of my employees had signed into MW on with this computer.
MM12

Kendrah
December 31st, 2005, 08:05 PM
Thanks all! I tried the LBRP yesterday and it worked great. I'm going to try to use it as a defense for the negativity at work. I've practiced this ritual before a couple years ago for maybe a week, didn't really feel anything. When I practiced it yesterday morning (coupled with sealing) before I went to work, I felt a vast improvement from what I felt years ago.

I also, probably a bad thing, broke up the ritual and just used the pentagrams to enclose my work space. It worked, though. My co-worker who sits next to me came in all mad and frustrated and by the end of the workday, but it worked. She either didn't stay all mad or I was effectively blocked (I'm empathic, so it really effects me.)

I'll have to try the other two rituals. Thanks Magickman!

bshore
January 8th, 2006, 04:29 PM
Because I don't want to start another thread right now, I thought I'd use yours to ask my own question. Hope you don't mind.

So, I've been trying to decide whether or not I should start doing some magickal work, and the general consensus seems to be that the LBRP is a good "beginner's ritual". My question is, the first time you did the LBRP, did you understand each movement and sound and why you were doing them, or did you just dive in? I'm asking this because, I only have a beginner's knowledge of the ritual and its parts.

Just thought of another related question. How did you all learn the lbrp?

Seren_
January 9th, 2006, 05:12 AM
I was taught it by someone who gave me a general idea of what I should be doing (how to vibrate, what I should be visualising etc), but not what it all actually meant (the words and so forth - I didn't even know anything about Qabalah). It worked, but I think the more you practise it, and the more you study it, the more powerful and meaningful it becomes.