How Often Do You Cast Spells

[Adam Of Avalon]

In "The Witch's Magical Handbook" by the Frosts, they tell you to be proactive. This leads me to believe that spell-casting and magick should be practiced more often. How often for you? What do you think?

[Myst]

I think this goes in Magick & Rituals, first off. There's probably already a thread or two along this vein so feel free to use the search function or go through the threads there.

Also, if you'd like to point me to the page feel free. I'm not sure how they used the word proactive or what relation it had to do doing spells or the frequency of doing them. Proactive generally means taking action, not just reaction, so how does that relate to doing magick more often?

Lastly, as far as doing magick often, it depends what you mean. Spells, specifically? No I wouldn't recommend doing spells just "for practice". I also wouldn't do rituals just "for practice". But using magickal techniques? Meditation, visualization, astral travel? Sure using them regularly (even daily) will help you focus and practice magickal skills that are very useful in spellwork and ritual.

[Adam Of Avalon]

I'm talking solely about spellcasting. And you're right, Myst, I should've posted this in Magick & Rituals or at least perused the other threads on this matter. But I like the discussion we got going here. What do you say we continue?

Page 116. They imply that one should anticipate one's needs and desires and address them before they manifest themselves. Since spells help to attain what's needed or desired, I would think they'd be cast all the time. Self actualizing is also discussed on page 14. I see no difference between self-actualizing and being proactive. What do you think?

[Myst]

You don't need spells to meet needs or desires. Perhaps the point was more along the lines of taking control of your life, making better choices, and living life to the fullest, rather then spellwork.

self-actualizing - To develop or achieve one's full potential.
pro-active - Acting in advance to deal with an expected difficulty; anticipatory.

[Adam Of Avalon]

Huh, I never thought of it that way. That's an interesting interpretation. Thank you for sharing! :)

[Xander67]

isnt that what being sensitive is all about

Anticpating your partners needs based on experince and also communication

i agree, you dont need a spell for that, but then again what do I know anymore :(

[Myst]

I just found the passage you are referring to, btw. It looks to be discussing the need of proactive vs reactive in regards to stress.

It also looks like they are referring to how being pro-active helps you be self-actualizing in life - ie. bringing in the car for maintenance more often.

I really enjoy this book actually, it touches on far more then spellwork.

[Xander67]

heheh yeah, oil change every 2,000 miles and rotate tires every 6 months LOL

[Adam Of Avalon]

Alright, look. I think I've phrased this question the wrong way. I'm not criticizing the Frosts as authors. I think they've constructed a fine book; otherwise I'd have never bought it. I never implied that spells were a quick fix for everything. I'm just curious as to how much people do it. I say we agree to disagree on this one.

[Myst]

Originally posted by Adam Of Avalon
Alright, look. I think I've phrased this question the wrong way. I'm not criticizing the Frosts as authors. I think they've constructed a fine book; otherwise I'd have never bought it. I never implied that spells were a quick fix for everything. I'm just curious as to how much people do it. I say we agree to disagree on this one.

I didn't say you did criticize them, or that spells were a quick fix for anything.

I'm simply stating my thoughts on the matter. And I don't know what you're disagreeing with?

[Xander67]

Adam wait,:( Im sorry man
I was not trying to disagree with you, i was just trying to interject a bit of humor in this thread...*sighs

i have alot of respect for the frosts...

man, lemme shut my mouth here before i make another mess .

[Myst]

Xan : AIM ?

[Adam Of Avalon]

Pardon my defensive manor. Polls are not my forte. However, I don't think I want to discuss this topic anymore.

[Xander67]

no really its cool, I guess I got a bit too silly in here

[Myst]

Ok then.

lol

Does someone else want to add something?

[Xander67]

I read the frost's book as a kid and the first exercise they taught (the energy tree) one palm up the other down and feet spread apart.......its silly but it is one I still use for grounding

[Myst]

I still use the first one I learned too.. not that it's that one, but that one is fun. I love all the theory and exercises, plus all the herbal stuff. Especially the theory and exercises tho.

[Twig]

In my case, "magick" is manifested differently. I guess I would say that it is basically [REAL basically ;) ] invoked through prayer and is relient on the Law of Karma and Right Intent.

You could say, I don't invoke the magick. I ask its' help. Hehehehe

Peace,
Twig
:elf:

[Myst]

heh makes sense

For me magick is changing energy to will according to intent and focus, and as affected by intent and karma.

[Xander67]

Karma ut oh...

yeah intent is key i guess and faith in yourself

[DreamSpell333]

I do spells once and awhile. I'm new and still learning, so I'm sticking to simple spells. My fiance and I did a yule ritual together, our first. We meditate more often than we cast spells. We feel we should only cast spells when we really REALLY need to. But thats only how we feel. Everyone is different.






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[MammaStar]

I don't cast spells much either. In the beginning I was nervous to try any spells. But the more I read I felt I could try a simple one, which I did & it worked, which made me even more happy! But I don't like to cast "willy-nilly", so I wait until there's a REAL need, in my opinion, for it. Then I go for it!

[Myst]

Ditto on the "not much" answer btw.

I've done a couple healing spells, and a lot of protection magick (not really spells) but that's about it.

[Flaire-FireStar]

Originally posted by DreamSpell
I do spells once and awhile. I'm new and still learning, so I'm sticking to simple spells. My fiance and I did a yule ritual together, our first. We meditate more often than we cast spells. We feel we should only cast spells when we really REALLY need to. But thats only how we feel. Everyone is different.



Same here... I don't wanna try anything too big yet, I'll make my way up that way eventually. :D

[Angelwulfe]

i'm active in my path in that i mediate often live by the rules of karma etc. in terms of spells i only do them when there is a really strong need, which is'nt all that often. other wise if i think i can resolve a problem on my own i don't use magick.

[AradiaSupernova]

I'd have to agree. I'm fairly new to my path but that doesn't make much of a difference for me. I studied for a long time before I became a full blown Wiccan. I only do spells when I see the need for it, and believe me, thats not often. Sabbats and Esbats are really the only time I do magick work..of course..if something is so serious that I feel I need to do something, I will.

[Haedis]

I dont do spell work that often either. I think some people just use it as an excuse to be lazy and not have control over their lives. If a problem or desire arises I never think of doing a spell until I've tried my hardest for a while to achieve the goal by myself, and if its really important. I wouldnt do one to get a better grade in school...because that is entirely my fault if I do poorly in the first place, and I'm fully capable of changing it without help from my Higher Power.

[Radocs]

I only cast spells once in a while... usually only if I really feel the need.

[Myst]

Unfortunately I think sometimes people are too quick to turn to spells.

I'm sure we can all think of situations where someone went "ohmigod my boyfriend broke up with me/I might get fired/I need a job/I need to buy ____" or whatever, and their first question was about casting a spell. This is why I very rarely help people with spells, except perhaps to give them correspondences. How do you know if the person has worked mundanely to find answers, or if they're just looking for a quick fix? How do you know they're not supposed to break up/get fired/lose their job/not buy whatever due to lessons they have to learn or karma they need to receive? Is it necessarily safe to get your energy mingled in with that? I know some people don't agree with me, but I tend not to help people when they're wanting to do something I don't agree is morally right, and I say so.

[Twilight Garden]

Well, I've never read any of the Frosts work, 8O so I'm not familiar with their definition of spell casting. I mean if simple candle magick, prayer, intentioning energy into your meals... is a "spell" than I do it daily, several times daily. It just goes along with the routine of daily life for me. (Except when I'm sick, then I don't do much of anything. hee hee) And believe me, it has nothing to do with laziness or trying to get around doing the mundane nessecities. You have to take care of the mundane for the magick to work. :)

[Myst]

Depends on who you ask. Prayer and meal blessings might fall under ritual too.

[HallsOfAvalon]

Has anyone read "Wicca for Men" by A.J. Drew? He has a very interesting point in there. Something about Magick is just influence over anything. You do spells all the time, but you might not realize it. You make yourself look good when there is somebody your interested in at work?
You knew that by wearing red lipstick you would look more attractive to the opposite sex. Therefore that is Magick, hence a spell. Magick is just science that is not yet proven. So we assume that anything that is proven is no longer Magick. I don't think that is true.
I know I am just not expressing his point as well as he did. :::Wishes I could find that part again and copy it word for word:::

[Myst]

To me magick is change of energy through intent and focus to a desired will.

Applying lipstick isn't changing energy. The effect of colours on the human brain actually has been studied scientifically. When someone sees red

Adrenaline will be released.
The blood pressure will elevate.
Blood flow speeds up as manifested by an increased pulse rate.
The rate of breathing becomes rapid
The autonomic Nervous System takes over and reactions become automatic.
The taste buds become more sensitive.
The appetite improves.
The sense of smell heightens.

(http://www.saffronsoul.com/usr/psycho_colors.asp)


Therefore the "magick" behind applying lipstick is simply that it enhances lips which symbolize another human body part (I don't think I have to spell it out), and that it literally causes physical effects similar to those that occur during sexual arousal in those who see it (being as most lipsticks are red of some shade or a colour that includes red).

That's your useless fact for the day.

[StormChaser]

Spells.. as far as casting.. welll every circle is a spell in itself.. those 2 times a month, sabbats.. 8 of those.. so far 32. They other spellycasty stuff.. I've done probably about 4 times if you don't count kitchen witchery *which is a anytime i cook spell like thingy* I also agree with Myst's definition. The whole magick behind the lipstick. That goes with the cooking type magick I described. Intent.. sending off "vibes" or working those vibes\powers into something.. thats casting of a sort that I use daily.. or perhaps i should say nightly.

I'd also like to say i don't like the last poll answer.
You do not have to do spell work to be a pagan or a wiccan.
~Storm Chaser

[talamh]

i didn't vote in the poll because i would have needed to chose "When there is a need to....". That could be frequently or infrequently depending on arising situations. i noticed several others have also said "when i need to".... so maybe that might have made for a more accurate reflection of peoples' approach to spell work.

i agree with Myst about not "giving" people a spell for this or that. If people aren't far enough along the path to know how to "find" their own spell for something... they probably shouldn't be mucking about with those kinds of energies.. and i certainly don't want to get caught up in it. So many people think that spell work is the main focus of wicca when, in fact, it is simply a part of the over-all energy work and can't be isolated from the rest of it. You can't experience the entire cake if all you eat is the icing. bb talamh :)

[SilentWolf]

Originally posted by HallsOfAvalon
Has anyone read "Wicca for Men" by A.J. Drew? He has a very interesting point in there. Something about Magick is just influence over anything. You do spells all the time, but you might not realize it. You make yourself look good when there is somebody your interested in at work?
You knew that by wearing red lipstick you would look more attractive to the opposite sex. Therefore that is Magick, hence a spell. Magick is just science that is not yet proven. So we assume that anything that is proven is no longer Magick. I don't think that is true.
I know I am just not expressing his point as well as he did. :::Wishes I could find that part again and copy it word for word:::


My fiance has the book, and he said it's a pretty good book.

[HallsOfAvalon]

Yeah I think it's pretty good too, not one of my favorites, but good. I prefer my Cunningham, but you can't always have the best.

[Myst]

Originally posted by talamh anEiac
i agree with Myst about not "giving" people a spell for this or that. If people aren't far enough along the path to know how to "find" their own spell for something... they probably shouldn't be mucking about with those kinds of energies.. and i certainly don't want to get caught up in it.

No offence to anyone but I have to question the validity of anyone who goes "oh oh I need a spell, gimme gimme", being as almost every Pagan or magickal book out there has a spell or two or at least spellcrafting basics in it. Is one's situation that dire when they can't do some research? Mind you if someone says "hey I need ideas, I'm thinking of doing a spell" I love to help. Maybe it's because the person is willing to put some work into it; they aren't just demanding a delivery from SpellsRUs.

And again, you don't know the entirety of the person's situation, the people involved, the energies involved, what lessons need to be learned, what karma needs to be dealt, what practice the person has had, if they have a pure intent, etc. Too many questions for me.

[HallsOfAvalon]

I think most people are too lazy to put together a spell. I get that all the time, and it always ends up with them hating me after I pretty much say no. I post spells, and such on my site to help those that are willing to look.

[StormChaser]

My cousin asked me for a spell once.
I told her to direct her energies and do what "feels" right.
Let the heart and soul guide you.

I don't believe in, and perhaps thats an issue in itself, following some recipe someone else concocted who's meanings or purpose for using this ingredient and that ingriedient, and whose definitions of the meanings of those things may be vastly different from mine.

IE: In just about every love spell I've seen *as just about everyone and his brother who does spell work seems to like to publish* includes roses. I detest roses and see little if anything positive or beautiful within them.. therefor they would most certainly not be in any romantic lovey spell *assuming I ever did one* I'd use.


I question the validitiy more of the person who comes seeking knowlege of spells and quick fixes yet wants nothing to do with elements or diety. It makes me arch my eyebrows to hear people talk of using the elements and essentially using a recipe as a manner to invoke divine help, while snubbing their nose at the very deitys whose help or power they ask for\use.
Like never believing in God or Jesus till your at deaths door then beginning to say hail marys and repent.

~Storm Chaser

[HallsOfAvalon]

I understand what your saying, but within my family I am more the willing to help them research a spell. I first show them where they could turn to, and then what they could do to personalize it.

BTW, Family to me is more than blood..... Good friends are in there too.

[StormChaser]

Originally posted by HallsOfAvalon

BTW, Family to me is more than blood..... Good friends are in there too.

Ditto.

[Rævyn Cigány]

I only cast spells when I feel a need for them...when I need Divine help with something I'm working on. I believe that the Gods put us on this earth to fend for ourselves and it is only when we cannot accomplish this alone do we cast any sort of spell...rituals are another thing entirely in my mind...

BB

Rae )0(

[StormChaser]

Originally posted by Rævyn Cigány
. I believe that the Gods put us on this earth to fend for ourselves and it is only when we cannot accomplish this alone do we cast any sort of spell.
BB

Rae )0(

interesting pov, but it sounds sorta like "i made you, now raise and provide for yourself". Seems to leave out the bit where deity also gave us the means to survive on our own, two hands, two feet, a strong back, a great mind, and many resources to use to take care of ourselves. We weren't exactly dropped in a barren wasteland and told "survive".

I see us in a Jesusesque sort of way. Both part of the deity and yet also their children. There is nothing we cannot get through, as long as we are willing to do whatever is in our power exhausting every viable option and then ask for help. Of course you can ask for help to maintain your strength while\so you can do what you need to do but that's not quite the same as asking for a miracle. *which in effect, is what many spells are*

[Myst]

I don't think she was suggesting we've been dropped into a barren land at all.

My feeling on it is that if you haven't tried your damndest on a mundane level then you don't really want something that bad. If your immediate response is to turn to magickal means you are choosing the lazy way out. Choosing the lazy way out is like saying "I don't care enough about this to try my hardest". If you don't have the strongest purest intent your magick will either not work or will backfire. I feel quite truly that strong intent is still the most important element to spellwork.

[StormChaser]

Originally posted by Myst
I don't think she was suggesting we've been dropped into a barren land at all.

My feeling on it is that if you haven't tried your damndest on a mundane level then you don't really want something that bad. If your immediate response is to turn to magickal means you are choosing the lazy way out. Choosing the lazy way out is like saying "I don't care enough about this to try my hardest". If you don't have the strongest purest intent your magick will either not work or will backfire. I feel quite truly that strong intent is still the most important element to spellwork.


I wasn't saying that she thought that, I was saying that it could be construde as meaning that. I doubt truly that anyone here feels that way.

And as for the rest.. I completely and utterly concur.

[Myst]

I didn't say you did say that.

:razz:

[StormChaser]

Originally posted by Myst
I didn't say you did say that.

:razz:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Your capricornian side is showing Myst.

:lol: :razz: :lol:

[Myst]

hehe really

yours too

happy belated b day :)

[Old Witch]

I guess I direct energies more than cast spells. Spells wear me out!

[StormChaser]

Originally posted by Myst
hehe really

yours too

happy belated b day :)

*covers her spots* Safe yet?

I dunno when your bday is *not on your site or profile but I know it's this month*
So Happy B-day be it belated or in the future. Hope it brings you much joy.

[Myst]

tnx :)

I'll be 22. My bf just turned 24. </random unneeded info>

[Danustouch]

Myst...you tease!!!! ;)

[HallsOfAvalon]

I am sorry, but I really don't see things that way. I see it this way. Magick is a part of us. A very mysterious part, yes. But a part of us. Why not use everything you have to better your postion in life. I don't mean use it to harm anyone. But why not cast a spell when your friend got back from the doctor and found out they were sick..... Take the Medicine, but a spell is just another way to help.
I think that is it.... Spells are help. Not all spells ask the God/Goddess for help doing something. We are changing the energies all around us to influence it.
If it makes life easier/better..... Why not do it as often as you feel..... Although I seem to only cast when doing full moon rituals.... I wouldn't mind casting more to help my postion in life.

[HallsOfAvalon]

Ok, I know I am posting a reply to my own message.... but that made me sound very power hungry..... and by no means am I.
I just wanted to get that out.

:)

[Myst]

If your friend goes to the doctor and takes whatever medication necessarily s/he is ALREADY doing everything that can be mundanely done. If s/he refuses to visit the doctor, does acid 24/7, is an alcoholic, likes to beat their head off walls.. then they are proving magick will be a waste of time.

So I think anyone agrees that you supplement mundane with magickal, not the other way around. I rarely do spells because quite simply mundane answers usually fix mundane problems.

[Owl]

Well, first of all I was a bit insulted by the construction of the survey. It seemed to assume that if you don't do some spellwork that you aren't Pagan. A person can say that they cast a spell with everything act they do. Our very actions and words invoke a cause and effect we also call Karma; in my view that could be construed as a "spell." I am not trying to shout the maker of the survey down, I am simply saying that I saw a fundamental flaw in the construction.

Second, I am NOT a fan of Gavin & Yvonne Frost. I can recall reading, with considerable horror, a cleansing ritual they wrote that would put the person in considerable personal danger. It invloved standing over a pot of sulphur powder and dropping a hot coal in it, then leaving the room, hopefully before you succumbed to the fumes. That was only one thing which I found objectionable, but it was scarey enough for me.

Witchcraft, to me, is not about casting spells, doing rituals, making potions and other asundry stuff. It's a way of life which CAN include these things. It all depends upon the person's personal talents and abilities, not what kind of "show" they can put on to get the desired result.

I apologize in advance and I know that my views may not be popular, but I am reminded of something from another tradition/religion where it talks about the self ascribed holy man who prayed so others could hear him versus the simple man who prayed in private.

Sometimes, when I am channel surfing, I will come across a visual of Pat Robertson looking square into the camera squinting his eyes shut and praying to his god in very "chosen and eloquent" words meant to impress people of his sincerity. I just want to throw something at him. I have seen this in some Pagan folks who get carried away with all of the tools and toys (pardon me) of the trade. I am not saying that all do and if it honestly helps some folks focus, then it could be of some value. To me they seem like crutches more than anything else. Please understand that I am NOT putting these folks in the same category as Mr. Robertson and his "business" (he does rake in the bucks!).

Well, I am going to sumbit this and I suppose I will have to get out my body armour. I am not asking nor expecting anyone to believe as I do; I am extremely conservative in these issues and realize that my views do not fit everyone.

Peace To You

Owl

[Kiya]

The whole point of my practice in the Craft is to make a)me a better person b) my environment better to live in and c) make a difference to people around me.

Casting spells is a rare occurrance - I've only cast spells a couple of times - one worked, one went wrong!

Yet I've learned that if I logically work out the best way to handle something, and then follow that through, it does tend to work out for the best. So I rarely need a spell, I just need to take control. Yet in it's own way that is Magick, because the intent is there.

This is the way I do it, and that's all. It's not the only way!

I do like to read everybody's opinion on this. We must never be scared of open debate! That's how I learn best!!

[myristica]

well....i don't get the chance to since i'm in college No candles or incense! but before that i hadn't learned enough. i make up dishes of herbs as spells for the most part. i'm not ready to try any heavy duty stuff yet.

[Raindancer]

Its 1:30 A.M. here so I'll try to make it short. I fall into the "as needed" group. I don't like to use it unless I feel its really needed. Now and again, I may do something for my family and I to help us get through something scary, but mostly for others and then mostly healing/protection.

I've onlu had to do intervention spells a couple times to protect a couple friends ( in different places and times) who were suffering from physical violence. I don't like to start mucking around with the energies of the universe just to be cool. I like to think of it as being like a spiritual martial art, used as a last resort. Mostly, I find that I don't need to do formal spells, but can do it by focussing,visualising, and as Jean Luc would say, Make it so. I don't really need Tarot cards to read anymore either.

Wicca for me is a spiritual path, and magick is a very small part of it. I've read Wicca For Men too, I think that its a good book for men who are Wiccan to read, and for women who want to understand how men connect with Goddess ( which is different from how women connect) I don't feel 100% as he does about it, but I'm glad that someone wrote a book from our viewpoint. Wicca has a lot to offer men.
Blessed Be
Raindancer

[NeoPhoenix]

I only do magick once in a while, but my main reason for replying is to warn you, as owl did, do not take anything frost says seriously.

There is a post at http://ubb.wicca.nu/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi under books and media entitled ""The Good Witch's Bible" by the Frosts?" which has a link to a site describing one of his twisted beliefs.

Note: The information given about this book by the Frosts may not be suitable for children.

[Myst]

Maybe you should discuss the work of the Frosts in our book forum?

[Cat Goddess]

all the time .... magick is a part of my religion and everything i do focuses energy and therefore creates magick

~Kieu~

[Mystic Wolf]

I am new here. But I agree with Cat Goddess. My religion is magic and vice versa. I work magic on a daily basis and incorporate it into my life. Only with constant work can I develop my talents and improve my Craft.

[Myst]

So it is your assumption then that anytime you work with magic you are casting a spell?

[Mystic Wolf]

No that is not my assumption. I work with magic either when I am blessing my food and thanking those that gave their lives so that I can eat, or whether I am casting a spell. I feel I use magic when I talk to my plants in the morning and the animals. That is what allows for the cross-species communication to mean something. I use it when I shield my children for the night. I use it when I make a new tool not only when I consecrate it. Most magic is not as all encompassing as a spell sometimes it is simply focusing your intent into an item or it can be more involved as a ritualized way of developing your daily shielding and writing in a dream journal. I don't see these as spells but simply things I do.

[Myst]

Hm.

Sorry I read the topic and saw "how often do you cast spells", but I see you're answering "spells and magic". *nods*

I don't remember what I answered before (this is an old thread), but I'd agree magic and energy work are a part of everyday life, tho spells aren't.

[Sequoia]

I'm Pagan in theory, not practice.


ahh. . . that kind of insults me. Just because I don't really do "spells" per say. . . that makes me not pagan? -_-; or not "practicing pagan"?

I work with energy. I do it all the time. Sometimes I say a few words. But I don't normally sit down and write out elaborate spells and rituals. If anything, this would make me non-Wiccan, not non-pagan, wouldn't it?

[Twilight Garden]

Originally posted by Adam Of Avalon
In "The Witch's Magical Handbook" by the Frosts, they tell you to be proactive. This leads me to believe that spell-casting and magick should be practiced more often. How often for you? What do you think? Since the question in the post mentions both spells and magick, I answered the poll considering both. Not just spells as mentioned only in the title. *shrugs* Now I'm not sure what the poll was actually intending. I still do spells frequently, though not necessarily daily.

[Myst]

Originally posted by LunarMist
Since the question in the post mentions both spells and magick, I answered the poll considering both. Not just spells as mentioned only in the title. *shrugs* Now I'm not sure what the poll was actually intending. I still do spells frequently, though not necessarily daily.

Yeah that's why I mentioned


Sorry I read the topic and saw "how often do you cast spells", but I see you're answering "spells and magic". *nods*


Believe me, sometimes I am paying attn heh

[Paeten]

I do spells when I have a need for something. Not when I want something but when I really need something.

[Teshuva]

sorry, but I couldn't find the link you mentioned.I clicked on the link you put in your post which took me to Wicca.nu and explored the forums that contained info on books and media....i'm dying from curiousity 'cause I want to know what the "twisted belief" is you mentioned in your post.... i usually just lurk but my nosiness got the best of me this time.

[Ptah]

The longer I walk this path the less I want to try to control what happens around me. Too often we do magicks and only muddy the karmic waters. True I can control the Universe around me, but I tired long ago of playing god. It is just enough to know I can....

Ptah

[Aidan]

My opinion is that you should practice whenever you get the chance. The more you learn the more power you have.

[Flar's Freyja]

Once I learned the concept of intent in magick, I learned that you can practice any time, anywhere......and I do. I practice formal ritual and spells when I have the time, or a really urgent need. Ritual and props definitely enhance magick but I don't feel that they are necessary to practice effectively.

[Adam Of Avalon]

What a loverly little mess I've created... :devil:

[Neptune]

I cast everyonce in a while ... the last one I cast had immediate results too! Kinda freaked me out the results took about an hour!

[Ganga]

Once in a while. When I started on the path, I used to do spells much more often, but now I try to see magic in everyday life. Just sitting under a tree, watching the sunset or the moonrise - this sort of thing. Connecting with the Goddess. But I do still spells, of course. I like healing and herbs a lot, too. I remember doing a spell (last january) which brought results the same evening. I guess my greed to see myself as powerful was satisfied by that. I hope at least.

[Raynewitch]

I used to cast Spells a hell of a lot more than I do now....now a days I sit back and think "What could I accomplish by just using common sense alone?" and that kind of sets me on my path. I usually talk to the God/dess too if I cant think of a way to solve whatever.

[Neptune]

yeah, I kinda agree Rayne ... magic will not solve everyproblem ... sometimes it can create more problems ... I more look for guidance than anything else these days ... and I could use a lot of it.

[Evangie]

I used to cast more often than I do now. I relate to looking for magic in everyday things. And with trying to find alternative methods. But it does make me feel good to have immediate or big results. I remind myself and my children often, however, to be careful what is wished for.

[TheTempestuous1]

As of yet (and it's about 2 and a half years in..) I've only done about 2 real 'spells' I think. Mainly (and this may change because recently I've pretty much just completly accepted that this is the path I'm on) I just do small informal rituals or candle /healing magick. Like prayers for friends/ family or myself. It's probably partly due to living at home (with no lock on the door) and not wanting to be interuppted. (although I'm thinking about telling my parents soon bc now I'm comfortable with it so this could no longer be a problem)..

But yeah on the subject, I agree with myst, I think once you've exhausted 'mundane means' then you should cast a spell.. It shouldn't be a crutch to stop you from dealing with a problem. Although that doesn't stop you from praying ext, just magick shouldn't take the place of trying to solve the problem yourself 'mundanely' That's my 2 pence! ;)

[ChelleOfShadows]

So is it bad that I cast spells al the time? Hmmmmm. I like the glamour spell, much cheaper than makeup. I also HATE getting into a steaming hot car, so I can't stop that one. I also like the temporary deafness when the kids are yelling so that one is a must..... Ya know what the heck I am a witch after all!!

[rootwork13]

My mentor, the one PERSON (not a book!) from whom I learned the ethics of my path taught me that everything magical can be looked at as a prayer. This path is heavily indigenous with a lot of syncretization, btw...the local Baptists who drop in unexpectedly simply think I've gone Catholic on 'em! In our home there's usually at least one 7 day candle going with a petition on any day, unless it's during a waning moon, and sometimes then as well. Why? Usually it's for the well being and protection of others, sometimes ourselves. Loathe as I am to think I attract negative energy...by damn, I do! Sometimes I'm the source of my own junk, sometimes I'm just at Wal Mart...! If there's a block that I just can't troubleshoot on my own, then the blockbusters go up. My point is that a lot of spellworking will depend on your point of view. Faith is important to me, there's a lot of praying going on here. Moderate probably defines the mood.

Money and relationships are what I get hit up for when others are looking for spells. I'll tell 'em what has worked for me in the past, give 'em some other references and they are on their own. Life is a cycle for some of us; there will be periods of enough, excess, and need. Learning to balance these is a lifetime of work for many. While I agree with Martinie that any result obtained by magic work alone is tenuous at best, sometimes a good boost is all you need. When spells are incorporated into your spirituality, they seem to become less 'because I need/want this' and more to enhance your own communion with your perception of Creation.

Or, so it seems for some of us.....:)

[Skye]

I do not follow a religious path, I practice magik every second of everyday.

I also cast spells quite often.

As Myst said, try the mundane, it usually works, but casting a spell to enhance the mundane is helpful to... ie. spells for consentration for studying, courage for your next job interview, protection spells, ect...ect...

I use my gifts to enhance and some times harm.

[catlin]

I only use spells when I feel the need to. Funny enough, although I have the abilities I do not use them too often to do something to improve my life. I think it is a gift of the Goddess which is not meant to toy around with or to abuse.

[Pippin]

I cast spells when I feel the need for them. Normally, I just have regular energy work that I do on a daily basis. I light candles and charge them with healing energy if someone needs it.

[AmbivalentMirage]

I voted for "occasionally" or whatever it was that looked like "occasionally". Woohoo... too much tea...

Anyway, I take my spell casting VERY seriously. Universal energies are not a toy to play around with, so I make sure I know what I'm doing. First, when I decide to cast a spell, I write down the following things on my trusty notepad:
*Why do I want to cast the spell?
-- If my answer breaks the rede or Torah, I know to stop right there!

*Who will the spell affect?
-- I think this one through VERY thoroughly. A good example is this. Say I wanted to cast a love spell to open my eyes to love, but an ex recently announced that they are still in love with me. Well, my spell won't affect them, right? Wrong. If the spell works, and I fall in love with someone new, it will hurt my ex her to see me with someone else! So, that spell is trashed. I prefer spells that only affect me...but that's rarely possible.

*What are possible bad repercussions of this spell?
-- If there are more than three, the spell is gone. At that point, you've found that your spell has a high chance of backfiring. I know that some people believe intent is 100% of the spell... but I've had spells backlash at me, so I'm careful.

So, if the spell passes those three questions, I move on. I decide what day/time to do the spell according to my planetary hours chart. Then I choose colours, incense, etc to incorporate. I wait (unless this spell is urgent) a week to let my dreams speak to me and allow all possible outcomes to pop into my mind. If the week passes, and none of the thoughts/dreams/readings that I've had regarding the spell conflict with the nature of my three previous questions, then I get to the actual spell writing. I meditate, get some ideas for the spell, and write. If it doesn't flow, I sit it aside and wait until I get the words. When all is done, the spell is cast and (99% of the time) works! :D

So, you see, I CAN'T cast spells every other day. First of all, I don't use magick unless I believe that I've done everything humanly possible. The Divine didn't give us magick so we could sit around and cast spells because we're too lazy or afraid to live life. You learn from experience, not casting an hourly spell. ;) Secondly, my rigorous process limits how many spells I can cast and how often I can cast them.

Of course, if an urgent need arises (such as a fatal accident or illness of someone I know), I can put something together in a timely manner. And for simple requests (i.e. a request for me to light a candle to bring new love to a failing marriage), I usually can think it through in a little bit of time and do what is needed.

If you've not noticed yet, I'm VERY cautious with magick. :lol: I know how real magick is, so I treat it with respect... and I dare to say that it does the same. ^.^ I've not yet had a "failed" spell and my outcomes have (except for the one time where I learnt about "backlashes") been pleasant. :D

[Iris]

I was wondering if anyone could shed some light on frequency of spell casting in relation to different Pagan paths. I mean, I dunno if I've fixed on a definate path yet, more specific than 'Pagan', but i was womdering - are there certain branches of Paganism were casting is less frequent, which focus more on the theory and spiritual aspects than spell and ritual?

Like most people here, I feel that I only want to do a spell when there is a need. When I first became interested in this religion, I was all "Yeah, I wanna do spells!" but after a while that wore off (thank goodness) and now I prefer not to use magick so flippantly. So...is there one or more branches of paganism that are less focused on magick? I can't seem to find much detailed info about it.

[Ravens_Tears]

I only do a ritual casting if I feel it is warrented. So, basically, that's as often or as little as necessary

[LdyWolfPrints]

Originally posted by Adam Of Avalon

In "The Witch's Magical Handbook" by the Frosts, they tell you to be proactive. This leads me to believe that spell-casting and magick should be practiced more often. How often for you? What do you think?

Well, I couldn't vote, as for me, the answer isn't there. I cast when the need arises. Not all the time or only on the Sabbats. For me, its when I have a need, or when others do.

[Aidron]

Depends on your definition of a spell, but by my definition, which is a focused magical act that includes a variety of procedures (save for rituals which are more stylized), I do it all the time.

From turning a traffic light green or keeping it green, to locating my car keys just before I go out the door even though I have no clue why they are in the bathroom to summoning a breeze while I'm standing outside, bored, and ready to slap the guy gawking at me.

[schadenfreude]

every once in awhile for me :)

[Kalika]

I actually don't do spells per-se very often... though I thank the Goddess for things on a daily basis (trying!!), as well as communing w/ the elements.

I prefer to use spells and rituals for special occasions, or circumstances.

Blessed Be.

[Felidae]

I voted "Every Once in a While", but it's really "Only When I Feel I Have To".

When I started out as a teenager I was one of those that looked for reasons to cast. Over the years I learned many hard lessons regarding spells, and not just regrding quantity. :)

[Mòrag Elasaid Ní Dhòmhnaill]

Actually I didn't vote because there is no option for me to choose. I don't cast spells at all, but I would certainly not say I'm a Pagan only in theory. To me paganism is a religion which CAN include magic, but doesn't require magic. I became a pagan because of my spiritual beliefs, which have absolutely nothing to do with magic. Magic and spirituality are not mutally exclusive of each other. I don't practice magic, nor do I intend to. ~shrugs~ It's just nor for me, as I don't see any reason to go around manipulating energy for my benefit or for that of others. But, do I honor the Divine, sure I do. I just don't feel that I need magic to do so, nor in my opinon does anyone.

If a Christian practices magic, does that make them a Christian only in theory, because according the Bible sorcery and magic are not things to be done? Of course not, most anyone would say that's a preposterous notion. Depending on the person they would either then say that the person in question either isn't a Christian or just happens to be a Christian who practices magic. In the same was as not practicing magic is not a prerequesite for being a Christian, practicing magic is not a prerequesite for a being a Pagan.

~Saoirse Aiyana

[SisterLittleWitch]

Well...i think thats a good question. I would like to know the answer to that. I usually go with the cycles of the moon myself however sometimes theres a pressing matter that needs my attnetion and I'll do spellwork or a simple ritual on that night. I say night cause I usually work at night. I'm more relaxed...my little one is sleeping and I can focus solely on what I"m doing. In saying all that there are times I don't "practice" as much as I should or feel like I've neglected my studies. I think it depends on how I'm feeling....how much time I have....and whether I think I'll be doing the practice justice or just saying the words. If this happens to you then I'm relieved!!! I have found that doing a daily devotion or affirmation can help. I would like to write one of my own but for the time being I have adopted one my sister wrote. She's very talented. I hope that answered your question. How about you??? Do you do regular rituals??

[Adam Of Avalon]

I'm sorry I ever started this thread.

[Mòrag Elasaid Ní Dhòmhnaill]

Why are you sorry you started this thread Adam? I think it has sparked an interesting discussion and really allowed people to share their views. You should never be sorry when a question you asked does that.

~Saoirse Aiyana

[LadyWillow]

I cast whenever I feel the need to. I'm not spell obsessed or anything. it just depends on how I feel about certain subjects and if I feel that I need alittle help with a situation I do so.

[Eowyn]

Every once and a while. Mostly when I feel I need to take off some enegry, focus or feel that my magick is needed

[Romani Vixen]

I've been on something of a practical hiatus. I'm just getting back into practice. And I personally think that you have to keep yourself 'in shape' as it were..... Cause, man, can I feel that I havnt' done much in 3 years!!!

Falconsong

[tazz11]

why waste a good thing ?