About Healing spells

[Pheonix]

I have been considering doing a healing spell on my father. He had a heart attack last Saturday, and is still rather critical. My problem is tho while he is rather open minded I could never tell my parents that I am pagan, so the spell would be behind their back. and well he is christian. would it be wrong to do the spell on him since it would really be what their church would call the devils touch.
Rather confused and wanting to helpmy daddy.

[MammaStar]

Well, the first spell I ever did was for a devout Presbytrian woman. She is my supervisor's wife. About 2 years ago, she got a nasty infection and nearly died. She pulled through, but lost the use of her legs for a time. She had to go to a rehab hospital nearby my home. Her husband was so upset. He spent nearly all his time there with her, both while she was ill & at the rehab hospital. I saw how much he loved her and how devestated he was by all this. So, the next full moon, I did a simple candle healing spell geared toward her. I took a purple candle, carved the runes for healing & woman with a clear quartz and directed my energy toward her (she was staying a block from my house). 2 days later, she took 2 steps from the bed to her husband!!! :boing: I never told them I did a "spell" for them. All of us at work had them in our thoughts, prayers, daily. So, it probably just wasn't me & my energy, it was probably all of us as a whole using our own ways to help her get well. Could it be an ethics issue? Maybe. But I felt that it needed to be done.

Side note: Thread probably best for Magick & Rituals, but hey, it's all good. ;)

[Myst]

There is already a thread on this in Magick & Rituals. It's been here a long time and is several pages long; you might find reading it will answer your question.

http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2329

[Pheonix]

thanks myst now that I have seen it I do remember it. Tho I don't know how much it helps, but you ask a 1000 people you get a 1000 answers.

Ldystarlite, that is really inspiring. I still don'treally know what to do. It really is an ethical problem for me. Not because I don't have his permission but because it is something he would consider wrong. I think I will be struggling with this one for awhile.

Thank you for all your help.
Brightest Blessings,
Pheonix

[Lavender]

That's a tough one. I've asked myself that lots of times too. Keep in mind that I'm not wiccan & don't follow the same guidelines that a lot of others here would. When my dad was dying of cancer, I had no compuncture about doing a spell for him. I did everything I could in my powers to help him. My parents are strong Christians. My mom told me to pray hard for my dad. I don't pray in the same sense she does...so I did a healing spell. I feel that all the Christian prayers from my parents' church & prayer groups were moving the same energies I was with my spell. I never regretted doing that spell. I think I would have regretted more if I didn't. But please remember this is just my thoughts & feelings.

[LilydePlume]

and I really dont feel like reading through and old thread written by people half of witch ( LOL ) arent even here any more.
That is like saying go read a book .
I would rather discuss and keep it fresh thanks anyway.
SO, healing spells for people who dont know you are doing them , are effective. The decision is yours,and yours alone but I can offer this.
I will do them . I usually get around the issue by letting them know I am lighting a candle , and if they are open to hearing it , say I am thinking healing thoughts, sending healing energy, or any other term that isnt wiccan or pagan specific, because the last thing I want to do is circumvent the healing energy by causing anxiety.

BB
LP

[Lavender]

Originally posted by LilydePlume
...I usually get around the issue by letting them know I am lighting a candle , and if they are open to hearing it , say I am thinking healing thoughts, sending healing energy, or any other term that isnt wiccan or pagan specific, because the last thing I want to do is circumvent the healing energy by causing anxiety.

Good point, LiydePlume. :D So, telling someone you're going to sacrifice the cat is out. Just kidding. I agree with your point of sounding out people & see how they feel about it.

The thread Myst brought up was on the discussion of ethics. There were some good valid points brought up there as well. And most of us are still here btw! :D

[Myst]

If you don't want to do research or see opinions that's your prerogative. The statement was directed to Pheonix and not you anyway.

[Pheonix]

I appreciate the link. I like to hear the opinion of as many people as posible! That is the reason why I posted this in just talk instead of magick and rituals. more people come here. I have had some threads in magik and ritual that do not even get responses. I appreciate everyones reponse besause they make me think out of my box. I am lighting a candle for him tonight as a starter. I don't know if it will make it any farther than that. But still that was something that in my emotional state right now I didn't even think about.

Brightest Blessings,
Pheonix.

[Pheonix]

oh and wildchild I am not wiccan either, just a pagan witch at heart :)

[Lavender]

Pheonix, how is your dad doing? I'll keep him in mind tonight.

[Pheonix]

thanks, he is doing better today. They were feeding him thru a tube butthy are going to take th tube out and feed him lunch!!!!! This is great news for because prviously they did not trust him to swallow. I'm going to be going to see him soon. Thanks for the thoughts wildchild. :))

[Lavender]

:thumbsup:

[SnowStar]

I tend to think of the words "spell" and "prayer" as almost always interchangable. Think about it - in the Catholic church one often will light a candle as a symbol of someone or something they are praying for. How much different is that from lighting a candle at your altar (or wherever you light your candles, seeing as some people like myself don't necessarily have an altar, per se, just a spot where we always work) and saying a little spell/prayer? Sometimes I pray and don't use a candle, I just yack at the Goddess or the Universe in general. (Sometimes people think I'm talking to myself, but that's ok, because everyone's used to my doing that anyway) Its just as effective. If someone asks me to pray for a friend or a family member or for them, then I'm going to do it "my way" otherwise it just won't be genuine and would just become wasted time and energy. Prayer is prayer, and no one has to know by what means you do it, or even if you're doing it, because in the end its all the same.

And this may or may not be related, but if you find it neccessary to justify it with your father's beliefs, then I can think of two things from the Bible (do not ask me to site chapter and verse because I wouldn't know, I just know the ideas). One says something about praying in private and that you don't have to go out onto the streets and shout from the corner that you're praying, that its better that only you and God know about your prayer because they are the only ones who need to know. The other is about "giving alms" but I would assume it would go for doing anything for anyone else. Its the one that says not to let one hand know what the other is doing. More or less you don't need to let anyone (even your beneficiary sometimes) know what you have done for them or that it was you who did it.
As I said, that was sort of a last moment thought and may or may not have much relevance in your situation.

[Pheonix]

Thanks I lit a candle last night and well it may just be coincidence but as I said earlier they took the tube out today, he ate luch and dinner tho we did have to feed it to him. And most importantly they have pulled the oxygen tubes!!!! He is breathing on his own. I will continue to light and candle every night and say a prayer for hime to the goddess.

Something is working since not even 2 days ago they called and told us he was probably going to die and that we would have to make some serious decisions in the next 24 hours about trying to keep him alive. Now they will be moving him out of intensive care.