View Full Version : Divination Weekly Topic ~ share your tools?
Hope
January 5th, 2006, 06:08 PM
Ok the weekly topics are a great place for everyone to share their thoughts or questions on a certain topic about divination. Hopefully we can learn or share something new for ourselves or others.
This week:
Do you let other people use your tools? If yes or no why and who... and or do you use other peoples?
If you have a suggestion for a weekly Divination topic, please PM me.
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hope
LisaT4P
January 5th, 2006, 06:27 PM
Our coven has tools in common and we also sometimes bring our personal tools for use if we are in charge of a specific ritual. I find that sharing with others in this way increases the value (sentimental and energetic) of the tools that I use. :)
Hope
January 6th, 2006, 04:04 PM
excellent response, i wasnt even thinking of with in a coven
more of a hmm my sister in law wants to come over and use my runes or something
smiles
or a kid, or neighbor or....
so thank you for expanding the topic, off my limited thinking
smiles
love
hope
Mercedes
January 6th, 2006, 04:10 PM
I'm really paranoid, and I'd rather not have anyone so much as breathe on my things. I'd like them free of any other influences as much as possible, but, I may change. If I do consider someone trustworthy enough, my (for example) tarot deck may benefit from another presence, another energy, another soul, another perspective. As of right now, however, I'd rather not let anyone even get too near them.
aislin_ryann
January 6th, 2006, 04:12 PM
Certain things I will allow people to touch. I have a deck of tarot cards that other people can touch, but I have one deck that is off limits, all mine. I don't let anyone touch my wax scrying bowl or candles. And my dowsing rods are kind of a community thing.
SwordsFlameSong
January 6th, 2006, 09:24 PM
Well, I would have to say "no" with exceptions. The exception would be someone I trust and love. I have been solitary most of my life so I don't share my ritual items etc well. ;)
In the beginning I wasn't so set in this. But I belonged, briefly to a coven, that really soured me on coven work. No insult intended to those of you who do belong to a coven. The "HP" of this group was also a "teacher". Uhm, well she really didn't have the qualifications she claimed and "rituals" were spent sitting in front of her as she lectured. Many times on how divine she was. Her class were over 200 a pop and there was no respect given to a person's abilities. Basically, out of everyone in the coven I was the only one who could claim being a pagan before joining. We were told that we shouldn't use our tools without coven guidance etc and so on. Unfortunately, I didn't respond well to the strictures that were placed on me. I was insulted regarding my tools so I became very reluctant to allow others to view them let alone touch. <wry>
I was lucky and later met another HP, who is - unfortunately, no longer heading a grove. :( A very sweet lady and supportive of people on their paths. She had this beautiful athame - a natural piece of wood that someone had carved for her. She knew I had been scarred but - she let me use her athame to cast the circle. I know, that she did in part to show her respect of my path and experience. But I also know if she hadn't trusted me she wouldn't have done so. I didn't take advantage of that trust and yes, it had power/energy. I could feel it quivering off my arm. I did borrow her my athame for a circle casting and she told me that the energy was like flame. Mutual respect and we never let each other use our athames again! LOL
So, I know Warrior's Creed is off limits to others. So are my katanas, one set of runes and two of my tarot decks.
I am just very solitary in my spirituality so I really don't know if, even if I did trust someone enough, if I would let them handle any of my stuff. The special items are things that took me over two decades to find. Like my athame Warrior's Creed. I dreamed that dagger years before I found it in real life. <wry chuckle> Same with my runes. I will probably be buried with them when I leave this life.
WitchCraftWeaver
January 7th, 2006, 01:59 AM
This week:
Do you let other people use your tools? If yes or no why and who... and or do you use other peoples?
No, I don't share tools. The reason is that everyone's energy is different. My tools are tuned to me, and allowing someone else to use them would disrupt that energy. For the same reason I wouldn't use or even Touch someone else's tools, unless they asked me to. :noway:
SwordsFlameSong
January 7th, 2006, 11:17 AM
Has anyone had a really negative experience with an item though? Be it a tool which belongs to another or a"tool" that hasn't found a home yet?
There was this gal I knew years ago - getting close on 20 years now - in college. She would talk about making herself tea out of mandrake root and cursing people. She wanted me to handle this ritual item of hers and tell me what I thought of it. It had some of the most repelling energy I had every felt. It was just nasty.
Or this pagan store that used to be here. Somehow the owner had come across a couple of WWI era bayonets. One was okay. But the other had been used in combat. That energy was so depressing and angry. We tried to cleanse it but I don't think that bayonet could ever be fully cleaned.
I also knew this other gent who's athame was an antique SS dagger.
Hope
January 7th, 2006, 01:08 PM
thanks for the great answers folks
lets see i am a single mom of two kids (now both late teens) and i have always allowed them access to my tools, and depending on what they did either cleansed them after, or just returned them to where they belong
i have a niece i am working with, and she has full access....if there is a big cast i have planned for something i make sure and cleanse everything first (even if only i have used it)
i do have things that are left untouched, as they are cast with shields and the shields work
i also have tools that i use for teaching, that people can use
and i have had bad experiences, for example i had a close friend staying with us and allowed her to use my alter room, she used her own tools, just in the alter room space
and she did many brilliant things like places votive candles in a star on my table (with no barrier between candle and barrier) and then let the candles burn till they burned out, permanently burning the table
she went to make a potion on the stove top one day, and used a glass cake pan type pan on a burner on the stove it exploded, sending broken glass all over that was so hot it melted the floor where it landed (yes more then one place)
she got a lesson in banishment
love
hope
SwordsFlameSong
January 7th, 2006, 01:20 PM
like places votive candles in a star on my table (with no barrier between candle and barrier) and then let the candles burn till they burned out, permanently burning the table
she went to make a potion on the stove top one day, and used a glass cake pan type pan on a burner on the stove it exploded, sending broken glass all over that was so hot it melted the floor where it landed (yes more then one place)
she got a lesson in banishment
I can't use glass candle holders. Errr they blow up on me. And, when I would get together with these other two ladies they always told me that I had to bring my own candle holders and wouldn't let me near any of theirs with an empowered candle! I didn't blame them one bit. One Yule, I was presented with a couple of wood and stone candle holders. They told me that I shouldn't be able to blow those up. Arghh, one of the wood ones caught on fire. <wry>
I also have to be careful with candles. For some reason I tend to get a lot of flame. I have a wood cupboard with scorch marks.
I do, however, allow my daughter to handle many of my items. She is very careful. She's only six so I have taught her about elements and circle casting and she tries to con me out of things. She has gotten two tarot decks out of me, one dagger and too many stones to count - plus a set of runes. She takes very good care of them.:yayah:
Kaliel
January 7th, 2006, 01:36 PM
*laughs* well, I can safely say that I do not share my tools, mostly because I do not use tools!
Though if I had tools I would not share them, each tool needs to have the energy of the beholder and to have another person use the tool is only to get a different energy and you run the risk of a misinterpreted reading, or a reading that makes no sense.
great question!
Amber Wynd
January 7th, 2006, 02:38 PM
I've always allowed my daughter free access to my tools. She's away at college now, but when she comes home she uses my tarot cards and other tools if she wants to. Same with my sisters and one very close friend. My friend and I sometimes exchange stones and jewelry. She's been wearing my citrine ring for a couple of years now, and in fact, my altar belongs to her - she said it wanted to be here, so she brought it over when I moved in and asked me to keep it until I move out.
But I don't allow anyone else to touch my tools, except maybe if a child comes to visit and is curious about things. Most kids have great energy and I feel like they add to the positive aura of my tools. It's not much of a problem because I live by myself and I'm picky about who gets to come inside my home.
morningstar2651
January 8th, 2006, 03:18 PM
Do you let other people use your tools? If yes or no why and who... and or do you use other peoples?My fiance & I share our tools with eachother. If someone from asks for permission to use one of my tools, I might grant them permission (depending on the tool, person, circumstances, etc.)
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