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heathenwolf
January 11th, 2006, 01:13 AM
Im wanting to learn some about witchcraft, and have Bucklands book of complete witchcraft. Is it a good book to learn from? Has anyone got any ideas to help me learn about witchcraft easier?

BlackMagicalCat
January 11th, 2006, 01:25 AM
They have a program,adopt a newbie,where someone will be your mentor ,I havent done it so I dont know much about it.And Im not pagan or wiccan so I dont know who to look to to be a mentor.Also I asked the Goddess to be my mentor,and to send someone if she wanted me to learn from them.

Besides,Im not a newbie to life,Im 47 .
Good luck in your search to find a mentor.

Qumran
January 11th, 2006, 12:23 PM
Im wanting to learn some about witchcraft, and have Bucklands book of complete witchcraft. Is it a good book to learn from? Has anyone got any ideas to help me learn about witchcraft easier?

Personally, I enjoy Buckland's books because he approaches the subject seriously and from a somewhat scholarly point of view. You should remember, though, that he adopted many of Gardner's traditional Wiccan elements. There is, of course, nothing wrong with that - just something you should be aware of.

I mention this because your question said you want to learn more about "witchcraft." Witchcraft is not necessarily Wicca.

Wicca is a RELIGION with very specific traditions, Sabbats (holidays,)rituals and beliefs. Some Wiccans practice witchcraft, others do not.

Witchcraft is the "craft of the wise" or 'craft of magick.' MANY cultures and traditions practice witchcraft that is NOT Wiccan.

For example, I practice witchcraft all the time, for many years, but I don't follow the religion of Wicca...

Could you be a little more specific about what you are looking for? - this way we can suggest something more specific :)

BlueMoon13
January 11th, 2006, 01:09 PM
Im wanting to learn some about witchcraft, and have Bucklands book of complete witchcraft. Is it a good book to learn from? Has anyone got any ideas to help me learn about witchcraft easier?
Ah, the "Big Blue", right? It's one of many good books out there....I think you might find the New Pagans section of this site a good resource, as well as the Circle of Teaching.

A question for you: do you mean witchcraft alone, or as part being a Wiccan, Druid, Strega, etc.? What I mean to say is, there are those who practice witchcraft as part of their religious/spiritual path, and those who practice it outside of a religious/spritual context. Perhaps folks could advise you a little better if you give us a better idea of the context in which you wish to learn more about witchcraft :)

Aleannah
January 11th, 2006, 01:11 PM
I agree with Azzy, who mentioned the Adopt-A-Newbie program. You send a pm to Kalika, who is the organizer, and she matches you up with someone who has similar likes and has some experience in the area(s) you want to learn more in. :hugz:

Darkdale
January 11th, 2006, 02:52 PM
Im wanting to learn some about witchcraft, and have Bucklands book of complete witchcraft. Is it a good book to learn from? Has anyone got any ideas to help me learn about witchcraft easier?

What kind of witchcraft are you wanting to learn?

heathenwolf
January 12th, 2006, 12:53 AM
Yes im very green when it comes to knowing the difference between wicca and witchcraft. ive been asatru for almost 7 yrs now, and am seeking to branch out my knowledge into the other side of the pagan spectrum, whether that be wicca or witchcraft. Ive been practicing rune magick for about 2 yrs now and am intrigued by the seidr side of the craft, that is going into trances and exploring the other dimensions of reality. Not drug induced , but normal trances. The only problem is im put off a little by the concept that wicca is for women, not men. Im a normal straight married male and am wondering about the stereotype of women vs. men in wicca. Does it make a man a little funny to try to enter a womans field of expertise? I dont think so but id like to hear from you other guys into wicca out there.

heathenwolf
January 12th, 2006, 12:58 AM
In response to your questions, i would like to explore the side of magick, that deals with meditation, whether that is wicca or witchcraft i have no idea. ill let you decide.

LordHelmet
January 12th, 2006, 04:35 AM
Yes im very green when it comes to knowing the difference between wicca and witchcraft. ive been asatru for almost 7 yrs now, and am seeking to branch out my knowledge into the other side of the pagan spectrum, whether that be wicca or witchcraft. Ive been practicing rune magick for about 2 yrs now and am intrigued by the seidr side of the craft, that is going into trances and exploring the other dimensions of reality. Not drug induced , but normal trances. The only problem is im put off a little by the concept that wicca is for women, not men. Im a normal straight married male and am wondering about the stereotype of women vs. men in wicca. Does it make a man a little funny to try to enter a womans field of expertise? I dont think so but id like to hear from you other guys into wicca out there.

This whole concept is born out of ignorance, I thought that two once. Wicca was originaly started as a secret society, founded by Gerald Gardner. Gerald was a man.

I might be wrong on this but I read that in old Gardnarian wicca the teacher student relation was requred to be cross gender, another words men taught women and women taught men. Maybe that was Just initiation though.

I think the idea that wicca is feminine came from the confusion where people say that wicca is the origin of witchcraft. Then the steriotype does the rest, also there's femanist wicca in which the covens only allow women. Most people who call themselves wiccan don't really know much if anything of what wicca is about so these misconceptions seem to run rampant.

In wicca there's a God and Goddess... each are divided into 3 stages... if you take out the God, it ceases to make any sense. Many so called wiccans do this, they're really more like antichristians, take everything they don't like about christianity and mirror it.

Crystal Raven
January 12th, 2006, 09:46 AM
Sorry to butt in here, but couldn't let this pass..

if you take out the God, it ceases to make any sense. Many so called wiccans do this, they're really more like antichristians, take everything they don't like about christianity and mirror it.
granted I am not Wiccan, but a Hedge Witch...I focus primarily on The Goddesses and feminine aspects of the mysteries, as no God, as yet, has called for my attention. This does NOT make me an anti-christian, nor do I mirror anything to do with Christianity whether it be a part I agree with or not!!!

Back on topic...I do not think it is strange for a man to be a Pagan, Witch or Wiccan or a combination of them.
As for meditation, it is incorporated into many many religious and spiritual practices and sometimes isn't relate to either, same goes for magic and spell work, so I think you may have to get a touch more specific.

Qumran
January 12th, 2006, 09:59 AM
Yes im very green when it comes to knowing the difference between wicca and witchcraft.

I suggest you read as much as you can get your hands on. There is soooo much info available!!! You might start with general books like "The complete idiots guide to Wicca & Witchcraft." The "Dummies" series is also a good place to get an overview. There are MANY good books (including Buckland's books.) Books by Scott Cunningham as well as Raven Grimmasi... to mention only a few. Online the choices are too many to even think about! lol - Try Witchvox.com (a GREAT resource)

....The only problem is im put off a little by the concept that wicca is for women, not men..... Does it make a man a little funny to try to enter a womans field of expertise?.....

As far as the feminist leanings of Wicca, IMO, Lord Helmet's comments to you were excellent.

Ive been practicing rune magick for about 2 yrs now...

As I mentioned before, witchcraft is a HUGE 'genre' and rune magick IS one form of witchcraft, but your reply made it clear how you want to branch out and learn more - Many blessings to you! :)

aislin_ryann
January 12th, 2006, 10:47 AM
I really enjoyed Buckland's book. It was very informative. My biggest suggestion, is read everything you can, but remember, some people who write these books are putting their own thoughts and ideas on paper and can be pretty far off from what Wicca normally is.

Do not be afraid to ask questions. I recommend the mentoring program that Kalika is in charge of. There are some really informative people on this board. And don't be afraid to read the paths section on here. Some good info there.

As far as Wicca being a female religion, I used to think that too. So did my hubby. But as we actually learned about it, no, Wicca is for anyone, but not everyone. I went to a Pagan Pride day in October 05 and there were just as many male wiccans that I met as there were female.

I hope you find what you are looking for! May the Goddess and God bless you in everything you do!

Kalika
January 12th, 2006, 01:22 PM
Scott Cunningham's books are good.

Though, learning about things that are worthwhile is rarely easy. :) Just take your time, and get your hands on any books that you have available.

Hydra
January 16th, 2006, 05:31 AM
I agree that anything by Scott Cunningham is good to read. And the Idiot's Guide to Wicca and Witchcraft is an excellent book. Most used book stores or the chain called Half-Price books carry these books. Marian Green is also another good author but not as good as Cunningham, in my opinion.:)

Blessed Be,

Hydra

~Elise~
January 16th, 2006, 08:31 AM
In wicca there's a God and Goddess... each are divided into 3 stages... if you take out the God, it ceases to make any sense. Many so called wiccans do this, they're really more like antichristians, take everything they don't like about christianity and mirror it.

An uniformed non-Wiccan should not be trying to explain Wicca to someone else because this statement is just plain unbelievable and obviously in error on Wicca.

Dianic Wicca is not taking everything they hate about Chrisitianity and mirroring it. They Honor the Feminine within Creation. Goddess is paramount... not the opposite of God.

At a basic level, the Dianic trad. and 'traditional' Wicca have a lot in common as would be expected given their common roots. Both are based on the religion and magical system allegedly compiled and created by Gerald B. Gardner and Doreen Valiente in the 1940s. The central ideas and tenets are the same; ethical guidelines such as the 'wiccan rede' and 'law of three', the pantheistic world view, the adoption of deities from multiple ancient and modern cultures, and the incorporation of magic into religious ritual and daily life are all common to both. The basic ritual structure consisting of casting a circle, calling the quarters and invoking the Gods is the same, as is the use of "The Charge of the Goddess" (originally written by Doreen Valiente and adapted/slightly altered by numerous other authors) as a ritual invocation and prayer. The holidays of the 'wheel of the year' which are based on Celtic and Anglo-Saxon festivals are celebrated by both traditions, although with a slightly different emphasis.

As well as these similarities, there are also several important differences between the two traditions. The vast majority of Dianic circles are women only, although some Dianics are also members of mixed covens in addition to their women's group. The idea of male-female polarity being necessary for magic, and ideally created by male-female working partnerships is important in traditional Wicca, but is not a part of Dianic witchcraft. Deity is not dualistically divided into a God and a Goddess who each have certain characteristics and domains; numerous male and female deities are seen as aspects of the one Spirit which is genderless and immanent in all things. Emphasis is given to Goddess energy and female deities, and male gods are not usually invoked in group circles, although some Dianics work with them occasionally in their private practice. Balance is not seen in terms of male-female, but as an equal respect for different types of energies such as passive-aggressive which may be associated with either gender. Duality is a less common way of perceiving things among Dianics, with a circle or cycle with different gradations being preferred.

There are many more minor differences between Dianic and traditional Wicca which have resulted from the different view of deity, the influence of feminism, and the political focuses of the tradition. Slight differences exist in the ritual structure, with the omission of the 'cakes and wine' ceremony at the end of a circle and the frequent invocation of Goddesses at the quarters instead of simply elemental energies. Pantheon mixing is much more frequent than in traditional Wicca, with the intention of respecting and working with Goddesses of all races. Coven organisation is non-hierarchical, with no degree system and the role of high priestess a rotating position rather than a permanent one. Secrecy and oaths not to reveal material taught during training are seen as unimportant, and Dianic groups will often share details of rituals, training techniques and other practices. Among Dianics, there is also a particular emphasis on community work and involvement in politics that is not as strong in other sectors of the pagan community.

Here is another POV:
Unlike most of the neopagan religions, Wicca is an initiatory religion, that is, people who choose to practice Wicca believe that the commitment to this path set changes in motion in their lives.
Like everything else in neopaganism and the Craft, the term Dianic is one that has several meanings. A majority of those who call themselves Dianic are women that choose not to work with male energy in their ritual, magic, or universe. They feel that they need spiritual and psychic space filled with only women's energy. Some Dianics are feminist Witches, both lesbian and heterosexual, who often come to the Craft through feminism. Although these women may be involved with men in one way or another, they agree that religion has over-emphasized the male for the last several thousand years, and therefore want to share their women's energy in women's circles. They may or may not also be involved with the mainstream pagan community, and they may or may not participate in magic and ritual with men.

From Wikipedia:

Dianic Wicca, Dianic Witchcraft, and Feminist Dianic Witchcraft are all common titles for the Neopagan Feminist Dianic tradition. While some Dianics self-identify as Wiccans, some prefer the term Witch or priestess of the Goddess. Dianic Wicca can be very similar to traditional Wicca in practice (see section below for a discussion of their differences), but differs significantly from it in beliefs. Most Dianic Wiccans worship the Goddess only, acknowledging that She is the source of all living and contains all within Her. There are Dianic witches who practice other forms of paganism (possibly including honoring a male deity or deities) outside of their Dianic practice. Some Dianics are monotheistic, some are polytheistic, some are non-theistic.

Most Dianics worship in female-only circles and covens, but there are mixed-gender Dianic traditions. Eclecticism, appreciation of cultural diversity, ecological concern, and familiarity with sophisticated concepts of psyche and transformation are characteristic. Contrary to some characterizations, the majority of Dianics are heterosexual or bisexual women. A minority are lesbian, and some of these are associated with the position of lesbian separatism.

Many Dianic Wiccans believe that before recorded history there were widespread or universal matriarchy or matrifocal cultures which worshipped the Goddess, had matrilineal family structures, had social equality between the sexes, and did not practice war. These cultures were slowly supplanted by violent patriarchal groups; the original myths of the Great Mother and goddesses were subsumed into mythology honoring the conquerors and war gods. Dianics point to the work of influential and controversial archaeologist Marija Gimbutas. Says Utne: "UCLA archaeologist Marija Gimbutas turned historical scholarship on its head in the '70s and 80s with research that depicted peace-loving, co-operation-based Goddess-worshipping societies in ancient Europe-- which were overrun in the Neolithic era by Indo-Europeans who imposed patriarchal order. Gimbutas' vision of an earth-friendly, feminine-centered spirituality has sparked religious awakening; an estimated 400,000 Americans now declare themselves neopagans, and many more with feminist or environmentalist leanings are helping revive Goddess worship." Some Dianic Witches believe that matrifocal, Goddess-worshipping cultures existed literally, others see them as unproven but inspiring legends.

Political action is very important to many Dianic witches; personal empowerment is important to all. The saying "the personal is political" can be taken to mean that they view their choice to be Goddess worshipers as a political statement as well as a religious choice. Some Dianics have suggested that monotheistic worship of a male god (like God in Christianity, Islam and Judaism) is particularly harmful to girls and women because if the models for perfection and goodness and authority are male, then half of the population will always be perceived as inadequate.

Some Dianic Wiccans as "positive path" practitioners do neither manipulative spellwork nor hexing; other Dianic witches (notably Zsuzsanna Budapest) do not consider hexing or binding of those who attack women to be wrong.



As you can clearly see--there is no mirroring of Christianity and it makes sense. As for anti-christian, most pagans are accepting the validity of ALL paths, including Christianity.

(This is from a non-wiccan, BTW and definitely non-Dianic, but can't stand to see comments like above be prepetuated in ignorance of the facts)

JMO and YMMV

Elise





http://kisstheviolets.org/padma/index1.html

http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/Heights/5665/dianic.html

Qumran
January 16th, 2006, 09:31 AM
An uniformed non-Wiccan should not be trying to explain Wicca to someone else because this statement is just plain unbelievable and obviously in error on Wicca.

I know your post was not addressed to me, but it is well written and brought several thoughts to mind that I simply cannot resist responding to! :)

As you and I do not know each other personally, please understand that my comments are NOT directed at you, per se, so much as they are about the ideas you present.
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-While it is true that people should speak on what they know, does that mean that I would be unqualified to speak on racism because I am not a racist?

-Is a doctor unqualified to treat diseases he/she has never had?

-Are you saying that the ONLY way to have adequate knowledge of a thing is to have personal experience with it?

-Are not humans able to learn about subjects in VARIOUS ways?

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...Dianic Wicca is not taking everything they hate about Chrisitianity and mirroring it. They Honor the Feminine within Creation. Goddess is paramount... not the opposite of God.

Perhaps you can clarify something for me. As I read the post you are replying to I saw it as a comment on Wicca in BROAD, GENERAL terms. Your reply focuses on "DIANIC WICCA." Are you saying that Dianic Wicca is the 'gold standard' by which all other Wicca traditions should be judged? Are you saying that What is true for Dianic Wiccans is true of ALL Wiccans? Or perhaps you are saying that Dianic Wicca is the one "True" Wicca.

I suspect, based upon the rest of your post that the answers to my questions above is NO. If that is the case, you might want to be more careful in making broad statements about the "ignorance" of non-wiccans.

At a basic level, the Dianic trad. and 'traditional' Wicca have a lot in common as would be expected given their common roots. Both are based on the religion and magical system allegedly compiled and created by Gerald B. Gardner and Doreen Valiente in the 1940s. The central ideas and tenets are the same;

Are you aware that Gardner's first writings on Witchcraft/Wicca strongly favored the male horned God? Are you aware that he never even MENTIONED the Goddess in his original book on witchcraft? The Goddess was added only later on to Gardernarian Wicca.


The rest of your post is very informative. You write well.

...The idea of male-female polarity being necessary for magic, and ideally created by male-female working partnerships is important in traditional Wicca, but is not a part of Dianic witchcraft.......

.....A majority of those who call themselves Dianic are women that choose not to work with male energy in their ritual, magic, or universe......"

At the risk of offending you (although my comments are not personal but rather offered to the group as a whole) I will say that our earth flourishes because there is a balance between male and female energies - both being required for life on earth, as we know it.

IMO, religions, like Dianic Wicca, that exclude male deity and are women only groups, are as PIGHEADED and MISGUIDED as religions that feature God as a male being with woman being reduced to second class human beings - or worse!!

If you have a political, feminist agenda, fine. If you hate men, in general, fine. But why call other people ignorant simply because they have a life that has not been embittered toward the other essential gender?

Crystal Raven
January 16th, 2006, 10:07 AM
IMO, religions, like Dianic Wicca, that exclude male deity and are women only groups, are as PIGHEADED and MISGUIDED as religions that feature God as a male being with woman being reduced to second class human beings - or worse!!


If you have a political, feminist agenda, fine. If you hate men, in general, fine. But why call other people ignorant simply because they have a life that has not been embittered toward the other essential gender?

I am a pretty nice person, HOWEVER, even I take offense at these statements though they were not directed at me.
How dare you accuse such groups as being pigheaded and misguided? In my book that is not only ignorant but straight out racist!!
Unlike Pearls, who did state (but you seem to have missed)
(This is from a non-wiccan, BTW and definitely non-Dianic, but can't stand to see comments like above be prepetuated in ignorance of the facts)

I am very close to being Dianic, however, I do not disrespect nor denounce others beliefs!!! I am married to an amazing man, and have two wonderful boys and in no way shape or form do I consider them inferior or second class beings. I am also not a "feminist" per say, I love having doors opened for me, and being seated first and getting chocolates, but I do expect equal pay for equal work and each person (male or female) does have their own strengths and weakness.
And who the hell are you to tell me what Dianic Wicca is or is not? Have you studied it for some period of time, participated in co-ed Dianic rituals or coven work? Perhaps you may just be one of those very rare Pagan or Wiccan men that do lip service to The Goddess, yet are very much afraid of the potency and power every female has naturally been born with?

Lunacie
January 16th, 2006, 10:10 AM
Im wanting to learn some about witchcraft, and have Bucklands book of complete witchcraft. Is it a good book to learn from? Has anyone got any ideas to help me learn about witchcraft easier?

If you just want to get an overview to know if witchcraft is something you'd like to really study, then Uncle Bucky's Big Blue Book is an easy way to figure it out. But if you really want to study Witchcraft and maybe become a Witch yourself, then plan on putting in some time and effort, not looking for it to be easier.

~Elise~
January 16th, 2006, 07:28 PM
I know your post was not addressed to me, but it is well written and brought several thoughts to mind that I simply cannot resist responding to! :)

As you and I do not know each other personally, please understand that my comments are NOT directed at you, per se, so much as they are about the ideas you present.
======================

-While it is true that people should speak on what they know, does that mean that I would be unqualified to speak on racism because I am not a racist?

-Is a doctor unqualified to treat diseases he/she has never had?

-Are you saying that the ONLY way to have adequate knowledge of a thing is to have personal experience with it?

-Are not humans able to learn about subjects in VARIOUS ways?

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Okay--what I said was an UNINFORMED non-wiccan should not be giving out info on what is wiccan and what is not. I'm leaving the rest of this statement alone... it is too .... I don't what the word would be ... to respond to.


Perhaps you can clarify something for me. As I read the post you are replying to I saw it as a comment on Wicca in BROAD, GENERAL terms. Your reply focuses on "DIANIC WICCA." Are you saying that Dianic Wicca is the 'gold standard' by which all other Wicca traditions should be judged? Are you saying that What is true for Dianic Wiccans is true of ALL Wiccans? Or perhaps you are saying that Dianic Wicca is the one "True" Wicca.

The type of wicca that was being talked about with removing the male god is Dianic--hence the focus of my answer


I suspect, based upon the rest of your post that the answers to my questions above is NO. If that is the case, you might want to be more careful in making broad statements about the "ignorance" of non-wiccans.



Are you aware that Gardner's first writings on Witchcraft/Wicca strongly favored the male horned God? Are you aware that he never even MENTIONED the Goddess in his original book on witchcraft? The Goddess was added only later on to Gardernarian Wicca.


The rest of your post is very informative. You write well.



At the risk of offending you (although my comments are not personal but rather offered to the group as a whole) I will say that our earth flourishes because there is a balance between male and female energies - both being required for life on earth, as we know it.

IMO, religions, like Dianic Wicca, that exclude male deity and are women only groups, are as PIGHEADED and MISGUIDED as religions that feature God as a male being with woman being reduced to second class human beings - or worse!!

If you have a political, feminist agenda, fine. If you hate men, in general, fine. But why call other people ignorant simply because they have a life that has not been embittered toward the other essential gender?

I'm extremely surprised that your statement in red hasn't brought an admin into this thread. I'll make sure that they are aware of it though. That is one of the most... asinine statements I've ever read. JMO, however.

Elise

LordHelmet
January 16th, 2006, 07:41 PM
In wicca there's a God and Goddess... each are divided into 3 stages... if you take out the God, it ceases to make any sense. Many so called wiccans do this, they're really more like antichristians, take everything they don't like about christianity and mirror it.

Sorry, I think this came accross the wrong way. I'm not reffereing to Dianic Wicca, Dianics see, as you pointed out, that the male and female are aspects of something that is both and or neither. To favor an aspect is normal and healthy. I personaly favor the darker aspects sometimes, but I know thats not divinitys true nature, just my personal prefference.

I've seen many people run from a closed minded view in christianity, hating the idea of only having a male God, and without really learningwhat wicca or paganism is really about, reconstruct their own wicca where God is a woman. Then they say that divinity is feminine, when people do this they have made nothing better that what they ran away from.


IMO, religions, like Dianic Wicca, that exclude male deity and are women only groups, --deleted-- as religions that feature God as a male being with woman being reduced to second class human beings - or worse!!

I don't think you understood Perls, those groups that actualy do think God is female and use that as justification to reduce men are --something I look down on--, but thats not what she's talking about. Most serious Dianics, including those who have covens of all women, don't look down on men or think that men are secound rate. Think of it this way, they want to have a girls only club where they can talk about girls stuff like hot guys, maybe even hot girls, their periods and how they relate to the moon, and do girl magick. Maybe they think it's fun, maybe they just need time with the girls to get away for a while, I'm sure it helps to do their magick when they're all on the same wavelength.

I suppose some of them probably get together and giggle for 15 minutes, while they set up their ritual area and alter, about how the guys are so jelouse and suspicious about their little coven , and then when it's time to start they have to keep starting over because they can't stop giggling, not when Shadow Mist just snorted a giggle. "OK, seriously this time, -phwpp-, -ghghgh-, (giggles for 2 more minutes all around). Ok, this time for real... " It's all completly harmless and healthy. I wouldn't be suprised if they get along a lot better with their boyfriends or husbands because of it. All that giggling reliaves a lot of stress, and they get a chance to be away with the girls. And I doubt that they cast any spells that are harmful to their men.

Xentor
January 17th, 2006, 02:08 AM
Admin mode

Qumran, LordHelmet, one is supposed to treat each other and each other's religions with respect. While you are allowed to disagree with it, one should not describe it in derogatory terms. The terms "misguided" and "pigheaded" are derogatory.

Change your posts.

LordHelmet
January 17th, 2006, 05:07 AM
And who the hell are you to tell me what Dianic Wicca is or is not? Have you studied it for some period of time, participated in co-ed Dianic rituals or coven work? Perhaps you may just be one of those very rare Pagan or Wiccan men that do lip service to The Goddess, yet are very much afraid of the potency and power every female has naturally been born with?

And here we are again, I start it with a vauge and accusing statement, you and Pearl put words into my mouth, Qumran puts words into her mouth, then you put words into his mouth. I suppose I've done my share of it to. Lets just all try to be a little nicer and not grab each others throats. :atantrum:

I propose a truce; Dianic Wicca and Feminism are cool if Men and Masculine aspects are cool. Can we all get along together? :cheers:

Xentor
January 17th, 2006, 05:22 AM
Can we all get along together? :cheers:

It is called the Respect Rule. We don't need to approve of one another nor each other's religions, but we will respect their religion as they will respect us and ours in return.

~Elise~
January 17th, 2006, 08:01 AM
Defination of Wicca minus the God aspect = Dianic, as far as my research goes and all that I've read. Can people practice it without being Dianic--I guess that they could not know what they were practicing and it be a knee-jerk reaction from that past and Christianity. But in reality--it is still Dianic, I think anyway.

Personally--That isn't MY path, but I can understand it to a point. I don't understand the hard-core Dianics that do discount everything male, even transgendered males. But I still respect their right to believe as they will.

Elise

maverick9750
January 26th, 2007, 11:46 PM
are you more interested in the religion of wicca specifically, or do you want to know about the system of magick that they use, they don't have to be connected

Vigdisdotter
January 27th, 2007, 12:04 AM
Is it a good book to learn from?

Unfortunately, no. It was written with initiates in mind. So for all non-initiates, it's bloody frustrating because there are rather important pieces missing.....pieces that an initiate can fill in for themselves.

Has anyone got any ideas to help me learn about witchcraft easier?

Start with grounding a centring, make sure you can shield well, then get involved in energy work. Everything comes back to energy (though there are MANY sources and conduits you can learn to use).

I see that someone has mentioned the adopt-a-newbie program and that would be a good thing :) But cyber IS limited. If you can find someone in your area to teach you, that would be ideal. If you can't, then you get to go the trial and error route. Speaking form experience, it's often more "error" then anything else, but if you keep plugging away at it, you'll get there.

Amelserru_halqu
January 27th, 2007, 05:47 PM
Wow... how did this thread get rezed a year later?

Lunacie
January 27th, 2007, 06:19 PM
Wow... how did this thread get rezed a year later?

I dunno. Heathenwolf hasn't even posted anything new anywhere on MW for about 8 months. But... ya never know, maybe someone needed to read about this question.