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Gandalf
January 2nd, 2002, 02:20 PM
I am not sure this is the right forum to post in but here goes. I was wondering if anyone had some good ideas for psychic self-defense. My wife before starting our martial art (that does a lot of internal work) was very empathic and could read peoples intent, emotions feeling behind their words. Now, having trained in our art for 2 years and done a lot of training in reading killing intent, she now feels people’s bad intent toward her or me. She can feel it miles away and if strong enough from whom. This in and of itself is not a bad skill, but when she feels it, it is like someone is crushing or pressing on her heart (solar plexus, heart chakra?) I have tried the middle pillar meditation, and the lesser banishing ritual. She is Greek Orthodox and now carries a sacred eye (a Greek protection charm for the evil eye) with her. Nothing seems to help. For symbolism sake I have made for her at times a circle with icons around it. No other student I know of has had this problem so; I am stumped. Any ideas?

MistOfTheSea86
January 2nd, 2002, 02:23 PM
And then uses it against you?

Lavender
January 2nd, 2002, 02:24 PM
Did you check out the Magicks forum & Divination? I seem to remember a thread about that somewhere.

BTW, welcome to mysticwicks! :wave:

Myst
January 2nd, 2002, 02:35 PM
Well one can get empathic overload. She should shield herself, turn it "off", and remove the nasty stuff from her body intermittently. It sounds like she's too sensitive too it now, not that she's cursed or anything; she needs to learn to shield herself a bit and control her absorption of emotions. Do some shielding work and some visualization - like a tap on her back that when turned on the nasty stuff people give her will flow out of her and be recycled.

Gandalf
January 2nd, 2002, 02:43 PM
Originally posted by MistOfTheSea86
And then uses it against you?

No she absorbs intent directed at her or me.

Originally posted by Wildchild
Did you check out the Magicks forum & Divination? I seem to remember a thread about that somewhere.

BTW, welcome to mysticwicks!

Thanks will look for it


Originally posted by Myst
Do some shielding work

Will try the visualization but the only shielding I know is the middle pillar, and during an 'attack' she cannot do it.

Myst
January 2nd, 2002, 02:55 PM
Ok if she's purposely absorbing intent no wonder.

Why would someone want to do that? Intentially absorb nasty feelings about them? Ugh.

Do some grounding and shielding BEFORE she starts "being attacked". If it means keeping up a personal shield all the time so be it. This can be as simple as a strong visualization of a white sphere around her, mirrors, barbed wire, etc. There's actually a couple good threads on personal shielding.

http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8052
http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4678

Xander67
January 2nd, 2002, 03:05 PM
Gandalf,

I did some digging

http://www.spiritweb.org/Spirit/psychic-defense.html

i found this and thought this might help...

I hope it all works out for you and your wife :)

Gandalf
January 2nd, 2002, 03:06 PM
She is not trying to. It just attacks her. I think because she is so close to me and I tend to block all attacks (martial+ previous Wicca training) she gets hit with anything that comes my way as well as hers.

Xander67
January 2nd, 2002, 03:07 PM
here is an online one,

http://www.tower.net.au/~rsb/books/robert/ppsd.htm

it looks good, but it is not done, the synopsis is there and the table of contents.......i bookmarked it meself as I think i might use it :)

Myst
January 2nd, 2002, 03:19 PM
So why don't you teach her to block?

Gandalf
January 2nd, 2002, 03:19 PM
Thank you for the ideas and links. I will post how it goes. I think she will have to go into psychic self-defense training for a while.

Once again,
Thank you and Blessed Be.

Gandalf
January 2nd, 2002, 03:29 PM
Originally posted by Myst
So why don't you teach her to block?

I don't block myself consciously. I did a lot of shielding work I did when I found Wicca as a teenager, plus the training I did and just being around my master teachers in Asia may have 'enpowered' me. I am not currently a practicing Wiccan, I consider myself a spiritual warrior (with heavy Pagan influences). All priest(esses) have needed physical protection throuout the ages (knights, Shaolin monks, temple warriors etc) and I feel that is more my path. To defend the light. So I haven't done much magic or spells in years. So when this happened to my wife I tried using what I had learned, which was not enough.

Sisqi
January 2nd, 2002, 05:16 PM
I agree with what everyone else has said, just adding my $.02.

When I was still new to counseling (before I even got into any kind of paganism) I would notice that with certain clients I would pick up their negative energy, and perhaps because I'm a natural healer I would somehow siphon it off and then carry it around with me. They would leave all light and bouncy and I'd feel nasty like a battery with no juice.

One of my professors taught me a good, quick meditation to visualize myself with roots into the ground from my feet, then surround myself with a bubble which I would fill with light. Then I would "shoot" a silver chord from my hand to the ground so that the energy I gave off was that of the universe rather than my own.

I know this is not exactly the same as your wife's instance, but like everyone else said, some basic grounding and shielding should help her too!