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Laisrean
February 5th, 2006, 03:33 PM
http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/dino-cambodia/

Did Dinosaurs survive until relatively recent times? This carving in Angkor Wat in Cambodia would seem to suggest they did.

Chibi-Fallon
February 5th, 2006, 04:50 PM
I don't think it's real.
And if it is people used to put dragons and faries and sea monsters on maps, and while some people think they're real, at least one person came up with an idea for a sea monster that hadn't seen one I'm sure.

Maybe it's just some sort of monster?

Little Billy
February 5th, 2006, 05:07 PM
http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/dino-cambodia/

Did Dinosaurs survive until relatively recent times? This carving in Angkor Wat in Cambodia would seem to suggest they did.

WOOT! Lotsa jungle in Cambodia. They might still be there!

And with Stegosaurs, why not PTERODACTYLS? And RAPTORS!

Little Billy,
Is waiting to see Asia overrun by Dinosaurs. Hot damn!

Trithemius
February 5th, 2006, 06:59 PM
I have to agree with the second comment under the article. I think it's a misidentification of a Bornean rhinoceros. The carved head matches the rhino's head almost perfectly, and the "plates" on the animal's back are clearly separated from the body by a gap, which I don't think we'd see if they were meant to be part of the animal.

Carving:

http://s8int.com/images2/steg1.jpg

Bornean rhino:

http://arts.anu.edu.au/grovco/Sumatran%20Rhino,%20Sepilok.jpg

Little Billy
February 5th, 2006, 07:51 PM
I have to agree with the second comment under the article. I think it's a misidentification of a Bornean rhinoceros. The carved head matches the rhino's head almost perfectly, and the "plates" on the animal's back are clearly separated from the body by a gap, which I don't think we'd see if they were meant to be part of the animal.


You're no fun.

Anubis
February 5th, 2006, 08:13 PM
but look at his tail! Kinda thick in the carving... (psst... gotta point that out for LB's sake)... so if you're saying the carvers would be so precise as to not have a gap if the "plates" were supposed to be part of the animal.. then I would think the same accuracy would need to apply to thinning that tail down a bit... wouldn't it?

personally I think it was done by the movie people.. but that's just me... then again it could have been aliens.. right?

Trithemius
February 5th, 2006, 09:03 PM
but look at his tail! Kinda thick in the carving... (psst... gotta point that out for LB's sake)... so if you're saying the carvers would be so precise as to not have a gap if the "plates" were supposed to be part of the animal.. then I would think the same accuracy would need to apply to thinning that tail down a bit... wouldn't it?

personally I think it was done by the movie people.. but that's just me... then again it could have been aliens.. right?

A lot of ancient carvings are stylized, rather than perfect representations of the subject. So it's not too surprising to see enough attention paid to detail to have a gap between the plates/leaves/whatever they're supposed to be and the body, but also see a less than anatomically accurate tail, or longer, more pointed ear, or more convex back. The artist would have wanted it to be recognizable as the animal it was intended to be, but still allow for some "artistic license," that is, assuming it is in fact a genuine carving.

The movie people may have been responsible for it. I couldn't find any articles about it older than last year, so I'm wondering just how long ago it was discovered and by who.

Little Billy
February 5th, 2006, 10:17 PM
A lot of ancient carvings are stylized, rather than perfect representations of the subject.

GAH! You probably cheered for those jerks that deep-sonared Loch Ness! Go ahead! Suck all the mystery out of the world! See if I care!

:atantrum:

Anubis
February 5th, 2006, 11:59 PM
lol.. so it could be a stylized stegosaur as well as being a stylized rhino... me thinks we need to find the artist and torture them over hot coals to find the truth... (LB.. feel any better yet?).. lol.. it's a Rhinosaur!

Little Billy
February 6th, 2006, 12:04 AM
lol.. so it could be a stylized stegosaur as well as being a stylized rhino... me thinks we need to find the artist and torture them over hot coals to find the truth... (LB.. feel any better yet?).. lol.. it's a Rhinosaur!

:lol:

Next, people will be trying to tell me that Yeti don't live in the Himilayas, where they live peacefully...except during rutting season, when they come boiling out of the mountains, looking for booze and mates! HUMAN MATES!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

We haven't changed a bit, have we, cats?

CoolJ
February 6th, 2006, 12:19 AM
I told you all before!! That the military needs to equip itself to better deal with dinosaurs!! You didn't believe me!!

Soon we'll have dinosaurs flooding our streets, and we don't even have the weapons to deal with them? Schools don't teach kids anything about properly taking down a dinosaur, hell we don't even learn to do taxes!

I knew it.. they're coming.... they're there... they're... all frothy and swirly..

the dinosaurs.... they tell me to do things... to myself....

Little Billy
February 6th, 2006, 12:32 AM
I told you all before!! That the military needs to equip itself to better deal with dinosaurs!! You didn't believe me!!

Soon we'll have dinosaurs flooding our streets, and we don't even have the weapons to deal with them? Schools don't teach kids anything about properly taking down a dinosaur, hell we don't even learn to do taxes!

I knew it.. they're coming.... they're there... they're... all frothy and swirly..

the dinosaurs.... they tell me to do things... to myself....


DON'T LOOK AT THE LIGHT, COOLJ!!!

Argh! Too late!

Anubis
February 6th, 2006, 12:43 AM
rhinosaur jerky... mmmmmmm.... yeah... gotta teach them how to field dress it and preserve the meat

Rudas Starblaze
February 6th, 2006, 08:13 PM
rhinosaur jerky... mmmmmmm.... yeah... gotta teach them how to field dress it and preserve the meat


tastes like chicken....and gecko! little hot sauce. Mmmmmm!

mucgwyrt
February 24th, 2006, 08:36 AM
They also depict 8-armed women, winged bird-men, and men with elephants and lion heads (see 2nd photo) in their carvings. It doesn't mean they actually existed, you know?

Plus, it could be a stylised crocodile, or a rhino as someone else mentioned. Their art is way too stylized to know what it is.

EternalMaiden
February 24th, 2006, 02:18 PM
But first, the facts:

*At the end of the ice age (c. 12,000BC)
*980 - 1220 THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY OF ANGKOR

If my improv-math is right, that's about 11020 years inbetween the rise of the Khmer Empire, the temple of Angkor Wat and the Ice Age which these dinosaurs are believed to have roamed. That's plenty of time for religion, philosophy and Empire to begin spreading through a devolping peoples.

Looking at this, it reminds me of DNA, Chi, or gene patterns that are governing the figurines. There are apparitions in the governing pattern as well. It looks like a philosophy. A belief.... I'd say it's a philosophy dealing with evolution, or a time-line of some sort.

That's with not being able to closely examine it, as my irfanviewer magnifies like CRAP. And like others have said, it could just be a hoax. :( But what fun is that?

Pol
February 24th, 2006, 02:24 PM
Stylised or not, it does look a hellalot like a stegosaur - except the ears. Dinosaurs don't have ears like that. Or..didn't have ears like that.
I don't see the gaps between the plates and the body as being a sign they're not supposed to be there, though.

Anyway, it doesn't even look like a stylised version of a rhino, but also doesn't look reptilian enough [to me] to be a stegosaur, so it would be more likely to be just another mythic monsterbeast.

(Or a dinosaur with ears that we haven't discovered yet!)

Laisrean
February 24th, 2006, 02:55 PM
How do you know dinosaurs didn't have ears? All we know of Dinosaurs is pretty much due to their bones.

EternalMaiden
February 24th, 2006, 03:00 PM
It does look an aweful lot like a stregosaur. Reptilian, yes... And underneath it... It looks like a pre-form of it.

And above it looks reptilian for sure...

And then there's....Monkeys...? humans?

Maybe I'm analyzing it too much. I still think it looks like a belief of evolution.

Ankhor Wat is a temple dedicated to Vishnu, btw.

Pol
February 24th, 2006, 04:20 PM
How do you know dinosaurs didn't have ears? All we know of Dinosaurs is pretty much due to their bones.

Well, there's reasons [i suppose] that models do not give them ears, being that birds and reptiles and such do not have them, eh.

Little Billy
February 24th, 2006, 06:57 PM
But first, the facts:

*At the end of the ice age (c. 12,000BC)
*980 - 1220 THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY OF ANGKOR

If my improv-math is right, that's about 11020 years inbetween the rise of the Khmer Empire, the temple of Angkor Wat and the Ice Age which these dinosaurs are believed to have roamed.

Try 65,000,000 years.

Little Billy
February 24th, 2006, 06:58 PM
How do you know dinosaurs didn't have ears? All we know of Dinosaurs is pretty much due to their bones.

Because if they HAD, they'd have heard the meteor coming, wouldn't they?

EternalMaiden
February 24th, 2006, 07:49 PM
:( Aw.

*laughs*

Little Billy
February 24th, 2006, 08:12 PM
:( Aw.

*laughs*


Heh. Doesn't matter, really. They're gone now. Mother nature has cheated us.

Where are the giant reptiles? Why don't giant squid swim up the sewer systems, and drag people down storm drains? How come birds don't attack in huge swarms? Hell, you can't even find flesh-eating apes, these days.