Reincarnation

[Chesna]

Soo.. I was having a discussion about past lives and reincarnation with someone when a good question came up that I had no answer to..so I thought..ummm..MWers always have good thoughtful answers..so lets see what you have to say.
If you beleive in reincarnation and such The question is..how long do you rest between lives before your soul is reborn?? Is like a year..a day a second..what do others think??

Chesna

[Beowulf]

I'm pretty sure your not going to get one answer to that. I don't think anyone has considered that particular question; I would think simply until your soul is ready to learn a new lifetime of lessons. Therefore, it varies from person to person.

Beowulf~
:viking:

[SageofThyme]

I don't think there is a set answer -it depends. time in spirit isn't the same as time here anyway

[KEishin]

how long do you rest between lives before your soul is reborn?? Is like a year..a day a second..what do others think??
As long as it takes.

[Toby Stimpson]

quite frankly my dear, there is no answer to that. When one enters whatever spirit realm there is or afterlife...time does not matter and ceases to exist. According to many theological sects through many Reincarnation believing religions, there is never an answer to that question becasue it really does place a limit, a mundane physical limit on soemthing that is greater. Myself, I believe that time between lives depends very muuch on whatever we need to do...if we are to rest for a little while or head straight into the new body is really soemthing I cant answer.

Namaste

Tobias

[Chesna]

I didn't think there would be a for sure answer...just interested in how others felt about it. I think in our discussion we ended up saying that each soul is different. But that the soul couldn't be reborn (if was slated for re-birth) until it has had time to process its last life..a way to reflect and such..which to me sounds pretty cool!

Chesna

[Meadhbh]

And to top that off its not even a have to thing. We're all here because we want to be. There is always the choice of staying in the otherworld. Of course we have no way of knowing how many people actually to choose to remain there, but it is a good ideal to keep that in mind as well. How long you stay before comming back depends on the person if you have something more interesting going I assume it'll take you longer than someone who wants to hurry up and get back here.

[Silver Nightfire]

As long as it takes.

*nods* This is what I believe.

[Twig]

As long as it takes.

:fpeace: :graduate: :thumbsup: I'll second that answer!

[Vincent Verthaine]

Until we discordians get bored of the Afterlife Party(tm).

[Windsmith]

Just to throw in something else to ponder, there is a school of thought that believes that, since "time" as we understand it in this life doesn't so much exist in the Realm of the Beloved Dead, that it's completely possible that your next incarnation will begin at a point in time "before" the last one, as the living measure time.

[Toby Stimpson]

Mhm, I agree with Windsmith. really who is to say that we are not all just one soul that is overlapping with it's self....or that our 'soul mate' is in fact ourselves just skipped forward or backword. Ofcourse really temporal mechanics, the cause can often come after the event...in which case whos to say that our souls arnt meant to be soemwhere when we die...in which case perhaps 'life' is just a transisionary period until we are born into death?

Tobias

[Yuumoya]

Soo.. I was having a discussion about past lives and reincarnation with someone when a good question came up that I had no answer to..so I thought..ummm..MWers always have good thoughtful answers..so lets see what you have to say.
If you beleive in reincarnation and such The question is..how long do you rest between lives before your soul is reborn?? Is like a year..a day a second..what do others think??

Chesna


I've noticed that I basically stay dead for however many years I was alive... I'm not sure why, but it's not a lot of time in between lives.

[arianrhods_daughter]

As long as it takes to heal, learn and teach what needs to be done before moving on to the next existance

[ravynbynorthwynd]

hmmm, that may be totally odd, but i guess when it comes to what people believe, no answer is right when it comes to the afterlife.

i tend to believe that when people die they go to the summerlands, or middle land or soemthing of that sort, and then when they feel ready after a rest, they kinda go to a pool of souls, where they are plucked out at random for new bodies, which is why there is more time between lives for some and not others. this is also where young souls come into being.

[Tabbykitty]

If you beleive in reincarnation and such The question is..how long do you rest between lives before your soul is reborn?? Is like a year..a day a second..what do others think??
Chesna

How long a soul rests between lifetimes pretty much depends on the individual I think. Some people take long breaks lasting from a few years to a few centuries and some don't take any.

I'm one person who takes little or no breaks in between lifetimes. I kinda suspect its because when I am in that place in between lives, and I remember everything that has passed, I find that I don't really like myself all that much. I do remember arguing with someone in that place when I was there some time ago.

I stop there just long enough to plan and then its back to life.... :P Well, its no surprise that with so little introspection, that I have not really learned my karmic lessons well... heh.

[Phoenix Element]

I've considered this before, and I believe the time varies. I'm somewhat of the mind that we are allowed to view our Akashic Records and meet up with soulmates to "discuss" the next time around. I believe we have a hand in choosing our next life to some degree, or at least in helping determine or set up lessons to be learned in the next life.

[Darakash]

Mhm, I agree with Windsmith. really who is to say that we are not all just one soul that is overlapping with it's self....

Tobias

Nodding my head....and also there is a similar concept that perhaps our personalities of this life are simply small splinters/cells of one larger soul and that different "parts" of that soul incarnate at different times and bring what they learned back to the whole....and then, that that larger whole/soul is itself a part of "one big soul"(as you mention) or the Universe itself...if you step back and think about it it, well it can easily be associated with biology or physical science...cells make up tissues make up organs make up systems make up the body....and like that. Which I think is kind of a cool possibility.

[Toby Stimpson]

Nodding my head....and also there is a similar concept that perhaps our personalities of this life are simply small splinters/cells of one larger soul and that different "parts" of that soul incarnate at different times and bring what they learned back to the whole....and then, that that larger whole/soul is itself a part of "one big soul"(as you mention) or the Universe itself...if you step back and think about it it, well it can easily be associated with biology or physical science...cells make up tissues make up organs make up systems make up the body....and like that. Which I think is kind of a cool possibility.

There is that too. I suppsoe the thing with reincarnation is the fact that it cant really be measured in mundane time...becasue really reincarnmation if it is the way that spirit works, is a factor of energy that cannot be really measured. I just want to clarify that personally I do believe that there are multiple souls making up one huige Godly Soul, but at the same time I also think or atleast can think that perhaps these souls are then just divided into times, and that times can overlap. For example in Hindu theology, specificically the Vaishnava tradition, the Preserver Vishnu incarnates himself onto Earth in an Avatara, a reincarnation. In soem tales it is tru that Vishnu appears on earth overlapping with himself...the greatest example would be Ram and Parasurama....Parasurama was incarnated as the first Human form, and Ram was born while Parasuram still lived. I think the soul to soem degree acts that way, all aspects of 1 soul just at either different stages or times or just overlapping...or either just destined through Karma to work together in two bodies. Although com to think of it, it is a scary thought that...but it could explain why we get along or dont get along with soem people...for no real apparent reason.

There is also the soemtimes unsuccesful bias that states that time always moves forward, yet in temporal mechanics time it's self can move backwards, stand at a standstill, or loop back onto it's self with no changes what so ever. That is going on the assumption that Time has anything to do with reincarnation...as really time is also a perception of our minds...its said that truly enlightened beings can control time just becasue of how they percieve it.

Namaste

Tobias

[Tulip Tree]

Just to throw in something else to ponder, there is a school of thought that believes that, since "time" as we understand it in this life doesn't so much exist in the Realm of the Beloved Dead, that it's completely possible that your next incarnation will begin at a point in time "before" the last one, as the living measure time.Yes, and some people believe you can reincarnate at the same time as one of your other incarnations, as Galadraal said when she used the example of Ram and Parasurama. I think that's very interesting. I wonder if I'm screwing up as someone else, in some other city, right now. :shift:

Just some trivia: Edgar Cayce believed that the time period between incarnations was set at 30 years.

[jcldragon]

As I remember from my past incarnations, the shortest span of time between incarnations is 3 1/2 days. The Soul does not actually take over control of its new body until the moment of birth.

[Windsmith]

Nodding my head....and also there is a similar concept that perhaps our personalities of this life are simply small splinters/cells of one larger soul and that different "parts" of that soul incarnate at different times and bring what they learned back to the whole....and then, that that larger whole/soul is itself a part of "one big soul"(as you mention) or the Universe itself...if you step back and think about it it, well it can easily be associated with biology or physical science...cells make up tissues make up organs make up systems make up the body....and like that. Which I think is kind of a cool possibility.Yup. I'm sure I've said this somewhere else around MW before, but I imagine it's something like the ocean. When tributaries flows into oceans, you can no longer point to any bit of water and say, "Nile," or "Mississippi;" it's all just water. And when evaporation pulls water into the air to form clouds, it may pull water from several different rivers to form a cloud.

That's what I think reincarnation is like. When the physical form dies, the individual soul returns to the greater soul and mingles with all the others, so you can't really identify them individually. Then little bits of it are pulled up to form a new individual soul that made up of bits of lots of different souls.

That's why I have no problem with so many people claiming to have been Cleopatra or Napoleon in a prior incarnation (although I think it's sad that so many people are only interested in studying or remembering their "glamorous" past lives). It's also how I believe in reincarnation but also believe that when I welcome the spirits of the Ancestors into my circle, they are able to join me from the Realms of the Beloved Dead.

[omar]

I want to reincarnate as a "lap dog" they have it made in this world.

[Toby Stimpson]

Yes, and some people believe you can reincarnate at the same time as one of your other incarnations, as Galadraal said when she used the example of Ram and Parasurama. I think that's very interesting. I wonder if I'm screwing up as someone else, in some other city, right now. :shift:

Just some trivia: Edgar Cayce believed that the time period between incarnations was set at 30 years.

He...not she...lol, its all good.

I just had another thought...I wonder...well when I first thought of this I thought that perhaps there were millions of different 'souls' but a group of people on earth could be just different aspects of one soul...that I and 5 other peple could be at the same time parts or aspects of my soul....just as perhaps you and five or sx others in the world were also part of a soul...and that there were many souls all living themselves on earth in multiple bodies...i wonder if reincarnation would be like that...thered be more chance to learn lessons from multiple cultures. hmmm...what do you think?

Tobias

[omar]

I read some place that you can reincarnate in as little as 54 days? But most wait longer. But some just can't wait to get back.

[Toby Stimpson]

Blah 54 days? thats wayy too soon...I tell you all what if you care to wait...meet me at the egde of the universe and we'll have a 100 year party! :) Allah is invited as well (so random)

Tobias

[omar]

I think it was the Mongols, so Allah is not invited till the next one hundred years.

[zede]

i guess i agree with the majority that you come back when your ready. sometimes i think a soul comes back too quickly and has trouble adjusting to the new life. for example maybe someone that is gay in this life time was a woman in the last time and came back to quickly so now they still feel attracted to men. likewise someone that is phycisofrantic (don't know how to spell it) might be that way from not taking a long enough break inbetween. or even something as simple as loving egypt although you've never been there is just risidual from the lives before. just a thought.

[Toby Stimpson]

Oh thats right, Allah is not fond of reincarnation...oh well to him *waves*

[Darakash]

i guess i agree with the majority that you come back when your ready. sometimes i think a soul comes back too quickly and has trouble adjusting to the new life. for example maybe someone that is gay in this life time was a woman in the last time and came back to quickly so now they still feel attracted to men. likewise someone that is phycisofrantic (don't know how to spell it) might be that way from not taking a long enough break inbetween. or even something as simple as loving egypt although you've never been there is just risidual from the lives before. just a thought.

Wow...yeah, didnt even think of that; certainly a possibility...

[Salanthos]

in which case perhaps 'life' is just a transisionary period until we are born into death?

Tobias
that is profound. :idea: I gotta think about that, now.

[Xirian]

If you beleive in reincarnation and such The question is..how long do you rest between lives before your soul is reborn?? Is like a year..a day a second..what do others think??
I believe in reincarnation, but I do not believe that we come back as a physical entity. I believe that we come back as energy and that it happens right away.

[Lilith Morgaine]

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http://www.tv-links.co.uk/listings/9/5787

[TomasFlannabhra]

Soo.. I was having a discussion about past lives and reincarnation with someone when a good question came up that I had no answer to..so I thought..ummm..MWers always have good thoughtful answers..so lets see what you have to say.
If you beleive in reincarnation and such The question is..how long do you rest between lives before your soul is reborn?? Is like a year..a day a second..what do others think??

Chesna

In the Gaelic tradition, when one dies they are reborn in the Otherworld and live there for a lifetime (whether that "lifetime" is similar in years to a mortal life here, I'm not so sure). Then once that person "dies" in the Otherworld, they are reborn here again.

[Greybird]

I agree that the specific answer is 'as long as it takes', but from what I've studied (and learned from folks more knowledgeable than me on the matter), that tends to fall in between 'several decades' and 'a century'.

[jcldragon]

The Brotherhood of the White Temple, www.bwtemple.org , says that the time between incarnations, is 3 1/2 days, and that the Soul doesn't take control of a new body until the first breath.

The incarnations that I recall, all appear to be sequential.

[Garm]

As soon as I get caught in the back draft I'm up for another tour of duty

As it is this life is just a period of convalescence from injuries previously sustained, there nothing like a stint in a genocidal paramilitary to screw yourself up but good

Maybe my attitude will be better when I am actually up and ready for the next battle but right now I feel the whole thing just sucks big time

[Lilith Morgaine]

are there ways of trying to figure out what you'll come back as in the next life?

[Solya]

I believe in reincarnation, yes. It always sounded the most "logical" to me that souls aren't finished once they have led one life here on Earth. I think there's a certain amount of time we spend "Up There" in the Otherworld between incarnations in which we review the life that has passed and prepare for the next one. I think there's basically always a residue of our past lives which we carry with us now, but the extent of the influence the residue has on us is not always the same.