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Tanemon
February 27th, 2006, 04:35 PM
Hi. I was sitting here thinking about something today, then decided to try to formulate it as a question that might be helpful to many of us.

To overcome our individual limitations, "issues," whatever... it is often said that we need to change our deeply rooted, unconscious limiting beliefs and images. I'd say this is true. Sometimes a person has the experience of a large barrow-load of these limiting factors simply dissolving all at once, while other limiting factors may persist more stubbornly.

Do you have anything to share about a limiting deeply-held belief or image that your successfully changed, and which had a noticeable positive outcome for you? Care to flesh out a bit of a story for us?

I'll start with a simple example from my life. I used to be fairly fearful and unsteady at heights over about eight or ten feet (say on a ladder), but the prospects for employment working as a carpenter and/or mason's assistant provoked me to use visualization as part of a reprogramming. I was, in fact, able to hugely alter my comfort zone, so as to be at home while way up a ladder or while building a chimney or roof.

Please do share some of your stories. Would be great to hear about things that helped to unlock your personal path of spiritual or healing evolution.

:sunny: Tanemon

Inward Visionary
March 1st, 2006, 05:22 PM
I believe that what we think about ourselves, how we view ourselves, is what we become. Outside opinions and social image will have no effect on you if you can program your mind the way you want it to work. My experience came very suddenly. A 'born again spirit' that literally shocked my system toward a different path. Since then I've been feeling my mind reprogramming itself day in and day out. It just takes one strong Divine influence to help you realize yourself, and help you learn all the things you want to do. I think it's wise not only to pay attention to our thoughts but also our perception. The world is here on so many different levels, you just have to have the will to climb a little higher on the ladder.

:smile:

Tanemon
March 2nd, 2006, 10:42 AM
A 'born again spirit' that literally shocked my system toward a different path. Since then I've been feeling my mind reprogramming itself day in and day out. It just takes one strong Divine influence to help you realize yourself, and help you learn all the things you want to do. I think it's wise not only to pay attention to our thoughts but also our perception. The world is here on so many different levels, you just have to have the will to climb a little higher on the ladder. :smile:

Great! :hahugh: Could you be a little more specific? Like, what important limitations have been overcome by this process, for you?

And do you have any specific areas that you feel are your personal frontiers now? ...The things you have not been able to accomplish that you now expect you will soon be able to?:ballonsmi

:sunny: Tanemon

AineDanu
March 6th, 2006, 03:43 AM
Hiya Tanemon, I think this is an awesome thread and as soon as I can get my thoughts in order I shall post away :)

Inward Visionary
March 6th, 2006, 05:40 PM
Great! :hahugh: Could you be a little more specific? Like, what important limitations have been overcome by this process, for you?

And do you have any specific areas that you feel are your personal frontiers now? ...The things you have not been able to accomplish that you now expect you will soon be able to?:ballonsmi

:sunny: Tanemon


I had created my own barrier of limitation. It came to a point where my mind just exploded into new territory, breaking the barrier of limitation. It was rather strange and confusing for the first couple weeks. Now it just seems to be a process of unlimiting whenever my mind realizes that I am limiting myself.

I find myself limiting my thinking sometimes, while I'm trying to form personal beliefs. I used to limit myself on what God is, and where Beauty and Love are. I used to think time was limited until this reprogramming made me realize it is all just one continuous moment, which I then found my niche in. But this unlimiting sometimes puts me a million places at once, which in the midst of, all instruments still play in tune.
:jamsessio

I expect to accomplish, or rather, overcome what I am given, tuning my mind right to it. I can look back and say that I've had many personal frontiers, because I've always done the best I could at the time, and I'm still here. Yet I think the best ones are yet to come. I'm growing more into myself everyday and realizing what is there. In order to realize this, I had to break my own personal barrier of limitation.

:smile:

mtpathy
March 8th, 2006, 10:41 AM
A practice ive used,is to meditate while facing a blank wall,
the idea behind this is that by watching a blank wall within meditation
you cease to reflect your emotions and thoughts towards outside
paradox "people,places,things",and instead you focus inwards towards
the inward paradox.
for me doing this did amplify the inward mental experience of self reflection
and i did find that the reflection of inward paradox is just as,if not more
powerful then the outward reflection of it.
only real thing i can say about my practice within this,is that you have to
get to a point of being able to see both halves of all dualities as being truth
and false.

SageofThyme
March 8th, 2006, 11:10 AM
I think with me it depends how deep rooted the issue is...for smaller issues then meditation etc helps

I've had an "sudden" change in my way of thinking at least twice in m life -but although the change was sudden and dramatic it was only with working further with what was thrown up that it really mattered

For really deep rooted issues - mainly logic comes into play. I find out where that thought originated from, how it limits me etc

Tanemon
March 8th, 2006, 02:47 PM
I really appreciate the responses. The varied responses are interesting, and they each make sense to me.

But, friends, we're still speaking in abstractions and generalities. I mean, when you feel that you have altered (or that some process has altered) the situation in your subconscious, there must be some concrete experiences that demonstrate this to you in your daily life... personal life, worklife, achievement of objectives, and things like that. I tried giving a small example from my own life (the heights thing).

In discussing the outcome of my Reiki attunements in older threads, I've brought up other examples of tangible shifts in my experience, health, etc.

I can't speak for any of you, but concrete examples usually help me to understand what someone is saying.

:sunny: Tanemon

Inward Visionary
March 8th, 2006, 03:20 PM
Well here is something that happened to me yesterday. I had my first in-person client meeting yesterday, I just opened my web business 2 months ago. Now, this being my first professional business meeting, (I'm almost 21 trying to run my own business with no schooling for it) in the back of my mind I'm saying, "I have no idea what I'm doing." Which I didn't, I had no plan, I was just gonna wing it.

Before being attuned to Reiki this would have made me nervous, possibly clouded and fearful about not looking professional. This wasn't the case. I felt completely comfortable and relaxed the entire ride up there and the entire meeting. It all worked out smoothly and I sold my service pretty well.

It was something that I had never done before, never seen done before, and had no idea what to expect or what it would be like, and I felt like I had done it a thousand times. Now when the second one comes up, I have this experience to look back on. It will always give me confidence to know that what I'm doing is right for me and that I can nail it if I only believe that I have it within to accomplish what I need to.

arianrhods_daughter
March 8th, 2006, 10:14 PM
By this do you mean that you want to change your social schemas on something? Sorry Ive only skimmed the thread as Ive a very bad headache at the moment, what exactly do you want to change?

SidneyCozzoi
March 8th, 2006, 10:26 PM
Pa Kua has helped me with this in so many ways! I am large breasted (36 F) and It makes it hard for me to be athletic (I was as a child) so in turn I've created a lot of mental blocks to prevent me from doing so many things (I cry when I go clothes shopping because nothing ever fits or looks right). I can do headstands and twist like a pretzle now. I know, now, that I can do whatever I set my mind to do!

Tanemon
March 8th, 2006, 11:22 PM
By this do you mean that you want to change your social schemas on something? Sorry Ive only skimmed the thread as Ive a very bad headache at the moment, what exactly do you want to change?

Well, I didn't start the thread specifically to deal with my own inner path... more to raise a topic for mutual benefit of all who participate or read it. Seems that everyone has to deal with various aspects and levels of the subconscious programming (it's in layers... the "inner onion").

When I got attuned to Reiki, there was an unexpected and automatic relief from a number of limitations, some of which I didn't even realize I had. One result was a new feeling of closeness with animals, both domestic and wild, that was startling (I'm talking dogs, horses, birds, and all sorts). They all began to show that they loved me.

But I've dealt with other problems on a more individual basis, too - like my former discomfort with heights.

Anyways, when your headache is past, how about sharing your experiences and viewpoint on this sort of thing?

:sunny: Tanemon

-Ember
March 11th, 2006, 02:24 AM
To overcome our individual limitations, "issues," whatever... it is often said that we need to change our deeply rooted, unconscious limiting beliefs and images. I'd say this is true. Sometimes a person has the experience of a large barrow-load of these limiting factors simply dissolving all at once, while other limiting factors may persist more stubbornly.

Do you have anything to share about a limiting deeply-held belief or image that your successfully changed, and which had a noticeable positive outcome for you? Care to flesh out a bit of a story for us?

Well, I'm in process on MANY of mine. I think it is important to realize that to really change them doesn't mean finding a way to force them to fit the mold that you would rather they fit (kind of a psychological plastic surgery... finding ways to do a nose job or tummy tuck on your quirks.) Rather it tends to be about coming to terms with what you are and what you choose to be and then redecovering and redrawing your limits. Also important is discovering how interwoven most of our issues are. Many motivations combine to create the specifics of one issue, and dealing with one motivation doesn't necessarily alleviate the rest.

Something I've found useful: self help books. Not because they have great answers. But many have good questions. And, following Delphi's lead, knowing yourself is crucial. You don't have to be perfect. You (being human like the rest of us) probably can't be perfect. But comming to have a good sense of your own blind spots allows you to expect them and work with them... like a driver knowing where the mirrors won't cover not running over small children because s/he knows to turn his/her head and LOOK in those areas when backing. I forget the authors, but a good one I just finished is "Romancing the Shadow." Its Jungian, and the Greek God-named Archetypes are a bit off if you know your myths, but the format is useful.

Anyway, on to stories... hmmm... Well, the concepts I'm working with now tend to be wrapped arround self confidence and self image. For most of my life I've felt pushed away by people and isolated for a myriad of reasons that added up to me just not being socially acceptable or attractive (in the broad sense of the word.. not just physical appearence, but any sort of connection really.) Its taken a lot of "ah-ha" moments to see how much of that has been/become mutal with me pushing myself away or preemptively isolating myself. Positive outcome? Varied. I don't do so as much and have begun to really interact with others and participate in activities and groups I belong to. I'm far from good at it, but its a start. And there is hope and doubt... mixed blessings that they are. Both being good that they create options, both being painful in that they push me to further confrontations with limitations and the causes of them... or if not causes exactly, what maintains them in me.

arianrhods_daughter
March 11th, 2006, 06:15 AM
Ive found one of the main methods for changing the subconscious is to consciously deal with it and try and work towards change actively so that it does start to change on a subconscious level.

That as well as reflextion and affirmations as well as TIME all come into it as well..

Tanemon
March 11th, 2006, 10:30 AM
have begun to really interact with others and participate in activities and groups I belong to. I'm far from good at it, but its a start. And there is hope and doubt... mixed blessings that they are. Both being good that they create options, both being painful in that they push me to further confrontations with limitations and the causes of them... or if not causes exactly, what maintains them in me.

-Ember, that's a method I've used a lot... just push myself into situations that I used to be shy or scared in, then deal as creatively as possible with whatever feelings came up in that. Did that for years, and glad I did. Then my Reiki initiation blew away a whole lot of basis for aversion or nervousness I used to feel in many different situations. But I'm aware there are still other fundamental "limiters" in my inner programming, and am trying to get at that stuff.

:sunny: Tanemon