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Pol
March 7th, 2006, 03:13 PM
Simple question, simple curiousity.

RoseKitten
March 7th, 2006, 03:15 PM
I was told in middle school that I "needed" to be... I tried.. honestly! But, it wasn't so great *shrugs*

phoenixblayze
March 7th, 2006, 03:15 PM
i was raised southern baptist......i went to church every sunday, but never quite felt like i belonged and i had too many questions that people didnt like me to ask, or to answer........i realized at about 17 that i have a pagan belief system, and have been ever since

Boogins
March 7th, 2006, 03:17 PM
Nope. But I have plenty of Christian friends. :)

Oh, and the poll? My family ignored me so I wasn't raised as anything... just became what I am. :D

Zoritsa_Nepenthe
March 7th, 2006, 03:18 PM
I was raised Lutheran.Went to a Lutheran school,Sunday school,Church...the whole bit.At 18 I stopped going altogether,but still held some of those beliefs until I turned 30.

2steps
March 7th, 2006, 03:19 PM
no. my family aren't any religion

Pol
March 7th, 2006, 03:19 PM
It took me a while to get the poll up, but there it is :)
I hope I didn't forget any good options, I feel like there's some really obvious option that I missed.
But then, I always feel that way when I make a poll.

I was raised Christian, but am not now.

CoolJ
March 7th, 2006, 03:20 PM
My mother always says/thinks I am....

Pol
March 7th, 2006, 03:21 PM
Oh shit!
I left out the 'I was not raised Christian and am not now.'
That was going to be the last option, but I got distracted with my funny jab. :(

The Lady
March 7th, 2006, 03:24 PM
Baptised Methodist, practiced nondenominational, left Christianity but believe Jesus was a man who achieved a higher spirituality than I will ever achieve (he is my brother-figuratively speaking), and now I am a Pagan (studying Druidry and Celtic, with Herbalism and Kitchen Witchery thrown in)

Lynleigh
March 7th, 2006, 03:24 PM
I was raised Christian, and went to several different types of church when I was younger; a non-denominational one with my parents, a Nazarene one with my Aunt and her family, and several different Mormon ones with some of my friends.

It just wasn't the right path for me.

argento_occhi
March 7th, 2006, 04:02 PM
I voted the first choice. I was raised Church of Christ (not certain, but I think it's similar to Methodist over in America) before my family decided to be Anglicans instead. I tried to find whatever it was that they found there, but gave up. There was no feeling there, nothing. So, I didn't bother with religion for a couple of years before stumbling onto Wicca and then onto kemetic recon stuff, and now Kemetic Orthodoxy. There. My religious upbringing and history in a few short sentences.

LostSheep
March 7th, 2006, 04:32 PM
I wasn't really raised in any particular faith, my family (on my mother's side anyway) were christian, but didn't really force it on me ... so i was free to make my own mind up really. And funnily enough, I decided that there were some bits of Christianity that appealed to me but what I really felt was closest to pagan beliefs. So ... there, basically.

Knate
March 7th, 2006, 04:37 PM
Raised Christan...Jehovahs Witnesses to be exact. Yep.... a little Knate was wearing a suit, carrying a briefcase, knocking on strangers doors on saturday mornings. Yipee. After I was shunned by the J-ho's I never looked back, then found a path that actually makes sense to me, and here I am.:hahugh:

:shift:

mystyheart
March 7th, 2006, 04:39 PM
Raised ultra-conservative southern baptist. The ones with the annual convention that gets a lot of press coverage in the states. My dad's a minister with a doctorate in theology.

I'm a goddess centered pagan.

Cain
March 7th, 2006, 04:43 PM
Nope. not a Christian now, or bought up as one. Went to a Christian primary school though. My parents were heathen godless socialists, thank goodness.

Willow Rosette
March 7th, 2006, 04:43 PM
I was raised to believe in the Christian God even though we only really went to church on major holidays. Then in high school I was baptised baptist mostly to feel like I fit in somewhere and to make my Grandparents (who I lived with) happy. Once I graduated and moved out and started living an adult life I started to feel a pulling towards another path.

LadyCelt
March 7th, 2006, 04:44 PM
I really like Catholicism. Maybe because its close to paganism to me. But, I odn't agree with confession or women not being ordained. I don't necessarily agree with baptising babies against their will, but I do see they have their best interests in why its done. I am still drawn to teh faith and have rosaries and chaplets.

I can't agree wtih the traditional Christian view of God being just male either. I see God as both genderes and broken down into personified deities.

I love Jesus and respect him a lot and meditate on what I envision being his image a lot. I feel less and less sin exists and that's why he came.

Ishtara
March 7th, 2006, 04:47 PM
Well, I come from a part of Europe where most people are only nominally Christian, so if you meant "practising Christian", I never was one.
But I was baptized as a Catholic and went to a school ran by Dominican sisters. I later decided that the ethics of Lutheranism worked better for me, but I still did not go to church or anything.

Thankfully Netjer eventually decided that my days of religious apathy were over and sent a couple of Names my way to end the confusion :)

MysticWitch
March 7th, 2006, 05:01 PM
I couldnt vote because I was never christian and I am still not one today :cheers:

WokeUpDead
March 7th, 2006, 05:31 PM
I was never able to buy into that whole God/Jesus/miracles thing. I've never really been to a church or any kind either.

RunningBear
March 7th, 2006, 05:37 PM
I was raised Christian, everybody was where I grew up. There was only one school and that was part funded by the church. These days I'm areligious.

wolf
March 7th, 2006, 05:41 PM
I don't seem to fit any of the poll choices ...

I was raised Roman Catholic, but it didn't take. I stopped going to church at around age 13 or 14.

As any Catholic will tell you, Catholics aren't Christians. These Protestant latecomers get a lot of stuff wrong.

RunningBear
March 7th, 2006, 06:18 PM
I was raised Christian, everybody was where I grew up. There was only one school and that was part funded by the church. These days I'm areligious.

Kodachi
March 7th, 2006, 06:26 PM
Wellll, I have a pretty long story behind how I got to this point but I am a Christian Pagan (I say Christian Witch, its more accurate in my case). I follow the idologies of Jesus Christ and try to incorperate his teachings into my life the best I can. I respect the Holy Trinity as God, Goddess and Christ (Holy Spirit is Goddess (of course - if two guys can have a kid, lemme know. Less work on my part) and Christ as Great Spirit since a kid is bth mom and dad) and honestly do not listen to the idiots in Christian robes. I haven't been to church in the longest while but a very strong relationship with The Holy Trinity (partly because of this).

Kodachi
March 7th, 2006, 06:28 PM
Wellll, I have a pretty long story behind how I got to this point but I am a Christian Pagan (I say Christian Witch, its more accurate in my case). I follow the idologies of Jesus Christ and try to incorperate his teachings into my life the best I can. I respect the Holy Trinity as God, Goddess and Christ (Holy Spirit is Goddess (of course - if two guys can have a kid, lemme know. Less work on my part) and Christ as Great Spirit since a kid is bth mom and dad) and honestly do not listen to the idiots in Christian robes. I haven't been to church in the longest while but a very strong relationship with The Holy Trinity (partly because of this).

Pol
March 7th, 2006, 06:55 PM
I couldnt vote because I was never christian and I am still not one today :cheers:

Yeah, my bad. I had an option typed up but forgot to paste it in, and when I got done I forgot I had it and just made up the last one for fun. :(


Just a note: If you were raised in a baptised, or devoted to the/a Church by your family, I would say that counts as being raised Christian, even if you never practiced or anything like that.

RE: Catholics not being Christians:
Originally, I had options for Catholic and Protestant, but I figured for the sake of simplicity, I'd make them both the same because - no matter what Roman Catholics like to say - it's a form of Christianity simply by definition.
Some Catholics I've known have even claimed they're the ONLY Christians.
So, let's just simplify things, eh?

Renny
March 7th, 2006, 07:06 PM
Its odd really... my mom is fairly liberal yet she had alot of issues with me not wanting Christianity in my own life... I decided on that very young, and we had lots of fights about it. We share a love for nature though... just, she is a Christian and I am a Norse pagan ^_^

djmixon
March 7th, 2006, 07:36 PM
Nope. But I have plenty of Christian friends. :)

Oh, and the poll? My family ignored me so I wasn't raised as anything... just became what I am. :D

I am honored to be one of those friends....

And, what you are is beautiful!

Boogins
March 7th, 2006, 07:39 PM
:bigredblu

Thank you!:) nd I'm so happy you are my friend! :smile:

djmixon
March 7th, 2006, 07:50 PM
I voted the first choice. I was raised Church of Christ (not certain, but I think it's similar to Methodist over in America) before my family decided to be Anglicans instead. I tried to find whatever it was that they found there, but gave up. There was no feeling there, nothing. So, I didn't bother with religion for a couple of years before stumbling onto Wicca and then onto kemetic recon stuff, and now Kemetic Orthodoxy. There. My religious upbringing and history in a few short sentences.


Hmmm and here I thought Church of Christ was the same across the world... My father and several uncles and brothers are ministers...

I am still a member of a CoC congregation, but they are much more liberal than most of the dogmatic CoCs around.

Even still, there are a few members that agree with me on several points of deity worship and, although they do not acknowledge that they are, they are more like Pago-Christian as am I...

Acid09
March 7th, 2006, 08:40 PM
I was raised catholic went to church every weeked and on religious holidays. Prayed every night. Went to catacism and went through all that ritualistic initiation BS and then one day realized that religion had been feeding me false information. For one denouncing pagans while the bible used stories that were pagan in orgin the rituals themselves are based on pagan sources! And other things ie its history of the burning times, the corruption of the church, the business-esque hierarchy, its aim for mind control, its narrow-minded thinking, its theft of many many people's cultures, its many contradictions, its claim to be the word of God, the idolitry of Jesus, the churches extravigance, the over all hypocricy, *and more* all drove me far...FAR away from that religion. I'm sure I could think of other things that made me feel betrayed. I don't think I ever lost belief in a higher power but that religion is just not for me. Despite my views I do think it is over all beneficial to people who practice it.

And I marked liberal christian but it was pretty conservative.

Catiana
March 7th, 2006, 08:52 PM
I wasn't raised in any religion and it was never talked about in my family, although I guess my parents considered themselves as having Christian beliefs (God, Jesus, all that), I became Christian as an adult, and then became Wiccan.

Cornflake_Girl8
March 7th, 2006, 08:59 PM
What's a fundie? Is that slang meaning conservative?

Pol
March 7th, 2006, 09:06 PM
What's a fundie? Is that slang meaning conservative?

I personally use fundie to mark the difference in someone who is a fundamentalist Christian and someone who is a hateful bigot.

Salanthos
March 7th, 2006, 09:15 PM
was not, am not
short and simple
(hindu family)

ravenmyst
March 7th, 2006, 09:18 PM
where is the option for never raised christian, still not???

_Banbha_
March 7th, 2006, 09:39 PM
Wolf originally said: I don't seem to fit any of the poll choices ...

I was raised Roman Catholic, but it didn't take. I stopped going to church at around age 13 or 14.

As any Catholic will tell you, Catholics aren't Christians. These Protestant latecomers get a lot of stuff wrong.
I think also that Protestants don't consider Roman Catholics Christains, which always makes me laugh. I was raised in a conservative Catholic home, which is nothing like a Fundie xian home. Dabates about history, philosophy, and current events weren't scripted and after 16 years of Catholic education, I came to the realization I'd always been a Pagan.:idea:

ravenmyst
March 7th, 2006, 09:45 PM
to expand, my folks were not really anything, grandma was some generic christian, not sure what, my dds side was Mormon, but he so isnt, fought for years to be removed from their books, I went to churches with friends, allowed them to baptize me whatever they were, never really took, now I do UU if anything, take the kids there for the relief of knowing for once they wont be judged

ravenmyst
March 7th, 2006, 09:46 PM
my poor hubby is terribly scarred from growing up in a twisted christian cult, now he is a relieved Buddhist, :D

Pol
March 7th, 2006, 09:53 PM
where is the option for never raised christian, still not???

Heh I posted about that a couple of times in the thread. I had one made, but when I was pasting them all in, I forgot about it and made up something stupid as the last option instead. It's my bad.

LightDancer
March 7th, 2006, 10:09 PM
I pick 'was raised Christian and still am' but it's not as cut and dry as that.

I was raised Pentecostal, and went to an abusive private Christian school. My parents had a falling out with the senior pastor, left the church. I still went until I was 13, discovered Wicca, was Pagan until last year when I found Jesus again. I now attend an awsome church, full of wonderful people who just love God. That is the cliff notes version of my spiritual life:hehehehe:

Jamie

Cornflake_Girl8
March 7th, 2006, 10:29 PM
I personally use fundie to mark the difference in someone who is a fundamentalist Christian and someone who is a hateful bigot.

haha.....Guess I was raised hateful bigot then.

Pol
March 8th, 2006, 01:54 AM
haha.....Guess I was raised hateful bigot then.

Me too.. me too..

star_belfire
March 8th, 2006, 02:22 AM
I was told in middle school that I "needed" to be... I tried.. honestly! But, it wasn't so great *shrugs*

That sums it up for me as well but I was told at um.....birth.

Catholics, they take you as soon as you're warm.

XanderAmon
March 8th, 2006, 02:54 AM
Where's the option that says, "I was not raised Christian and never have been"?

My mother is Catholic, my father Jewish. My brother and I were never indoctrinated with or intiated into any particular system of belief: our faith was up to us. Come to think of it, faith remains a fairly private thing in my family. My folks have some inkling of my pagan-ness, but they don't pay it any mind.

Pol
March 8th, 2006, 03:58 AM
Heh I posted about that a couple of times in the thread. I had one made, but when I was pasting them all in, I forgot about it and made up something stupid as the last option instead. It's my bad.

^^^^^^

Torulf
March 8th, 2006, 04:34 AM
Not raised as a christian, I was quite fascinated when I was younger though. Well, at least of the walking on water part.
Not Christian now, nor do I think I will ever be.

LostSheep
March 8th, 2006, 09:15 AM
i think it's a shame that Jesus, who I do do personally beleive in and accept, at least as an inspiration, even if I don't necessarily buy all the stuff we're told about him, is now associated with such a bunch of bigots and extremists who use his name as justification for hating anyone who they don't approve of.

Most ironic part of all is that he was very firmly against the idea of established churches... he was all about a personal relationship with God.

orgtigger
March 8th, 2006, 04:00 PM
I voted raised christian...and not now.
But that doesn't sum it up. I was raised mormon and went to mormon church but I was never really 'into' the religion. I only went to church because I didn't have much of a choice at that time. It took me awhile to find my path, but I was of the firm opinion it wasn't christianity from an early age.

Dawa Lhamo
March 9th, 2006, 11:38 AM
Yeah, I was never Christian, so I couldn't vote either. ^_^

I did go to some Sunday school (at my grandparents' church) when I was little, but that had more to do with having a relationship with my cousins and my grandparents than with any religious teaching. See, that side of the family, their love has always been conditional. If I didn't go to Sunday school, I never would have seen them. (It was a choice.) If I hadn't pretended (and still do pretend) to be Christian (at least around them), they would have cut us out of their lives. (They did it to other family members, which is why I've never met them.) They're MO Synod Lutherans, and I think it's fair to call them hateful bigots... It's sad, but it's fair.

But my immediate family has been pagan since long before I was born. It's how I was raised, and how I still am. ^_^

Tashi delek!
Dawa Lhamo

Luminessence
March 10th, 2006, 12:46 PM
Was raised Buddhist, became Christian when I was ten, left Christianity when I was 15 or 16 :)

Astara Seague
March 10th, 2006, 01:47 PM
yes, I was raised Christen,
Morman to be exact , and I am no longer

Gypsy flower
March 11th, 2006, 11:00 PM
no never been a "christen" but they are nice people most of the time

Xirian
March 14th, 2006, 01:34 AM
I was raised around the Jehovah's Witness religion. I am now a solitary pagan.

Nadasdy
April 2nd, 2006, 09:57 AM
I was raised Christian, but now I’m not.


Regards, N

Jolixte
April 5th, 2006, 05:32 PM
I guess it depends on how you look at it. Yes, no, sorta, and occasionally.

Ninjakitten
April 7th, 2006, 06:48 PM
Not actually raised Christian (parents only said we were Christian, but never saw any form of evidence of it... I didn't even know about the death on the cross until I became a fundamentalist), became a fundamentalist when I was about 24, then a couple of years ago (almost age 30), became a Christian witch.

Imbrium
April 7th, 2006, 09:18 PM
Raised neutral. Became a super-fundie Christian at 19 and worried my family needlessly for years. Decided God wanted me to be heathen, and dropped the whole business around 30. Now I spend my time reading all those satanic books I had avoided during my fundie phase...like Meteorology Today and Tai Chi for dummies.

sari0009
April 7th, 2006, 09:44 PM
None of the above (did not fit in any of the poll's options).

Was raised Christian, neither liberal or fundie but somewhere between, am no longer Christian at all, and do not hate/dislike all Christians or Christianity. I still own a bible. Three, as a matter of fact.

You left that option out. Funny, that.

Cynyr
April 7th, 2006, 09:58 PM
I'm closer to the second option but not totally so I didn't vote. I was raised Christian, but not ultra fundamentalist, just fundamentalist. Since I understand the bondage of fear most of them live under, I do NOT hate them, but rather I hope for their release from this bondage.

Now I linger between paths leaning towards Pagan/Heathen (if there is a diff) and dabble in all the things I once was taught are evil and of the devil and that kind of crap, like Tarot and Witchcraft - that kind of crap.

For the record, since becoming free from the bondage of religion, I have never felt better nor liked myself better in all my life. I love the fact that I don't have to put up this feined facade of righteousness out of fear of being called a hypocrite which is the worst thing a sincere fundie can be called. And I was sincere, but the substance of what the practice promised just wasn't there. And if it was there it didn't stay.

HeavensHope
April 10th, 2006, 10:40 PM
yup...and nope I'm not a christian anymore. Well back when I was I called myself a baptist..hehe not a christian..essentially it's the same thing. I was at a point where I was half 'christian' and half buddhist...because that's how my family is. Decided neither was really right for me...neither really answered all of my questions, but i have equal respect for both. So, that's how I ended up here..wouldnt say i'm a pagan though...kinda just not into religion...i think i'm more spiritual.

Cev'aq
April 11th, 2006, 06:27 AM
I was raised as a pastor's kid. Now, the only connection I have is occasionally attending Dad's church, to make him happy.

Cassie
April 11th, 2006, 06:39 AM
My family background is Catholic, although not regularly church going. I did attend a Catholic school. At one time I got involved in a Methodist youth group and even became a Sunday School teacher for a while.
Now I am very firmly Pagan but I still have respect for some Christian ideas and a bit of a love/hate relationship with the Catholic Church.

Myrr
April 17th, 2006, 06:25 AM
Has a kid I slept through church, skipped Sunday school, (my friend always had a six pack hidden in the woods) and asked a lot of questions that got me yelled at. I found Paganism when I was 20.

Philosophia
April 17th, 2006, 06:55 AM
Never been a Christian, never tried it, thought about it during high school, but I never really liked it.

WulfcwenStar
April 17th, 2006, 07:02 AM
I was raised with people who survied death and concentration camps as my parents ran hostels back in the 1960's Yes I am that old. LOL
Well I was raised as a Christian. Mother was Roman Catholic, Father Church of England. I was christened into the Church of England went to Methodist Sunday School and went to my Mum's church at Easter and Christmas.
I grew up understanding the veiw points of others and never feeling I belonged to the Christian beliefs.
I tried out various forms including Jehovah's Witnessess which was really not me at all. No fun and no celebrations.
Inbetween trying out different churches I was always drawn to the Pagan beleifs time and time again I took up learning and doing things that would eventually lead me to my true path.

So I was a Christian not a good one as I asked too many questions and drove people up the wall.

Myrr
April 29th, 2006, 01:11 PM
I voted that I was not a Christian, but now I'm Pagan. When I was a kid I went to a Methodist church, but all I heard there was blah, blah, blah. When I was older my mother joined a really weird Pentacostal church. She finally came to her senses and rejoined the Methodist church.

Moonlite Faery
April 29th, 2006, 01:47 PM
I voted on the first choice. I think I was pretty much raised in between. I do not have any bitterness towards my parents or the religion at its core, I just dont agree with it anymore

JadeEmerald
April 29th, 2006, 03:53 PM
I was raised a conservative Christian (specifically Lutheran), but started questioning it as a teenager, and am now kinda afraid of it...I know, weird, but everyone seemed to be set on the Devil, Afterlife, and general negativeness towards certain lifestyles (ie homesexuality). I decided I don't need that kind of negitivity in my life.

Cat
April 30th, 2006, 07:26 AM
I was never Christian, and neither was my family.

fahawk
May 16th, 2006, 09:34 AM
My Dad's side of the family were Nat.Americans....my mom went to church growing up--
I tried it for a while as a child..couldnt relate somehow..
have gone in the past few years..but not regularly..
so my teenage daughter and I sort of feel this way..
yes, probably there was a very wonderful person- Jesus...and that many of the teachings make sense- are good to follow...
but that Christianity for many reasons may not really "connect" to our family of origin...( beliefs)

Infinite Grey
May 16th, 2006, 09:49 AM
I grew up as a Christian, Pentecostals to be exact. My family has a long history of involvement in the church, my Father was a deacon and an elder, as was my Grandfather. I have a few great uncles that were pastors and such (I have like 19 of them). Growing up I led pretty much a double life, very hypocritical of me actually. On one hand I was the Church's Sunday School teacher, moving on up to be a pastor. And on the other, I was committing about every sin I was teaching against. For that very reason I backed off, lacking the integrity those positions required at that time of my life... but ultimately it wasn't this that made me turn my back on denominational Christianity, or the "church". It was the egotistical attitudes of many of the pastors and church leaders that jaded me in the end.

As to what I am now, well it's a little too complicated to go into details. I'm sure there isn't enough interest for all sides to warrant me working up the effort to explain.

Invidosa
May 18th, 2006, 05:09 AM
I grew up as a Christian, Pentecostals to be exact.

Mmmmm, Pentecostal, I have had some rather unfortunate experiences with that particular denomonation. At one point my Aunt converted to the faith and decided that i needed to be saved because one of her church friends saw me swimming in a pool with my boyfriend (so somehow that made me a sinner?) I ended up walking home from the service because she had everyone wanting to lay hands on me and heal me or something like that. As for myself I was raised Catholic, even went to Catholic school for eight years. My first indication that something was just not right for me on that path was through a freind of mine. He was a very devout Catholic who happened to be a gay man. Needless to say the church was not very understanding. I remember thinking that i just could not understand the problem here, he loved the church and his faith was strong, but it just wasent good enough because he was gay. Later I met a Pagan who got to be a close friend, and over time i realized that the fundamentals of Paganisim were things that I had always believed in my heart anyway.

Infinite Grey
May 18th, 2006, 06:27 AM
Mmmmm, Pentecostal, I have had some rather unfortunate experiences with that particular denomonation. At one point my Aunt converted to the faith and decided that i needed to be saved because one of her church friends saw me swimming in a pool with my boyfriend (so somehow that made me a sinner?) I ended up walking home from the service because she had everyone wanting to lay hands on me and heal me or something like that.



Yeah that sounds like Pentecostals... Very charismatic people, very loving in a touchy feely sort of way (not sexually you perverts!)... but way to controlling of your life, they're way too community based for me... THOUGH admittedly they are the most "spiritual" of the Christian denominations, and probably the closest thing to "Energy" workers.

During my time as a Pentecostal, I've seen miracles, and I've seen shams... but it also attracts the most arrogant of people to it's ranks... a shame really.

Amythyst
May 18th, 2006, 08:13 AM
My contact with Christians began with a radical fundamentalist home school support group. Thought they were all nuts, and time proved me right. Exited quickly, divorced my husband and gave him to them-- they deserve each other.

They really have some dark ideas about women and women's freedom. Scary.

SSanf
May 18th, 2006, 09:02 AM
Would you consider having it shoved down your throat being "raised" Christian?

Cain
May 18th, 2006, 09:22 AM
Would you consider having it shoved down your throat being "raised" Christian?

Personally, no. If you didnt believe, I would say that doesn't count. We had an hour of hymns every day at my primary school, as well as weekly visits from the local reverend, but I never considered myself Christian, not once.

Marcasite
May 18th, 2006, 11:31 AM
I guess I was raised christian, my parents identify as christians and we went to church on christmas and easter, but I stopped going as soon as I had any say in the matter around 15. Religion was never a big deal at all in my house though, we never talked about it or anything.

kiwimac
May 19th, 2006, 01:03 PM
I was not raised a Christian. My dad was an Athiest and my mother a lapsed Presbyterian. But by a kind of osmosis I have become both a Christian and a priest.

Kiwimac

StephanieAine
June 2nd, 2006, 08:28 AM
I was raised in a Christian home - but technically speaking, it was a not-really-practicing Christian home. We only attended church a few times that I recall, seldom asked a blessing upon our food at meals, and didn't really talk about God. I was taught the "Now I lay me down to sleep" prayer as a child... primarily because it was a nice thing for mommies to teach children to do, I think.

The 'non-practicing' aspect of things always surprised me because I expected my dad to be more focused on his faith - or more expressive about it, I guess - because he was raised in such a strongly Christian family. My dad is the grandchild of a Presbyterian minister. There's a church in Alabama that still bears his name. My dad's sisters were devout Christians who taught Sunday school and prayed faithfully at all times of the day.

One of my Alabama aunts - the one who turned out to be my role model as a Christian - used to read a chapter of the Bible out loud, and pray, at every meal. It was hilarous... there would be about ten people at the table, and since it was a typical Southern family situation - there would be a TON of food on the table. We'd all sit there absolutely salivating, smelling the delicious fried chicken (oh, the wonderful smell!), corn bread, three kinds of vegetables, gravy, biscuits, and so forth (oh, yum!) ... while my aunt carefully (slowly and with feeling) read the Scripture to us (no exaggeration - at times we'd sit there listening for ten to twenty minutes, perhaps longer). She actually planned her Scripture and prayer ahead of time, like the way school teachers do their lesson plans. She was extremely concerned about doing all of this with care and with faith so that we'd all learn something, because we needed our souls to be fed as well as our bodies.

So, growing up in my kinda-Christian family (the term "Christian" seemed to just describe whether you had a Christmas tree or a menorah in the winter) ... I might have been influenced to be very non-spiritual/non-religious. But instead, I was captivated by the aunt in Alabama who read Scriptures and made the best fried pies you've ever tasted. I saw her very rarely because we lived in the North... but she was my greatest influence and my most patient teacher. She answered all of my questions about Christian theology and encouraged me to read the Bible for myself. She showed me, by example, how faith influences daily life and how to be a Christian in everything you do. So, through watching her, I "saw" what being Christian "looks like." And by asking questions and listening carefully to her responses, I learned the meanings beneath her actions and what theological lessons applied in various situations. She taught me the difference between saying you're a Christian and truly *being* one - because you have a relationship with Jesus Christ as Savior.

As an adult - who now has raised a daughter into adulthood - I find that I am *so* very much like my aunt. It's like I absorbed her ways of being a Christian, and then translated it all into my own version. As I raised my daughter (IrishDancer, also a MW member), I constantly told her what my aunt taught me about various things because other than myself, my daughter hasn't had any role models when it comes to being a Christian woman. Thankfully I had the benefit of a role model because it really helped me teach my daughter, and she has grown up with the spiritual environment that I feel I lacked as a child.

My daughter and I are extremely devout and love God with all our hearts - He is truly our Father and He rules our home and our lives.

CelticMoon11
June 2nd, 2006, 08:49 AM
Where's the option for being raised pagan and staying pagan huh? HUH?

Sionnach le Fey
June 2nd, 2006, 05:03 PM
I wasn't really raised in any religion. My primary school was a christian one so I guess I grew up singing hymns, going to church on certain occasions and learning about Jesus and whatnot. Some of my family consider themselves Christians but they've never tried to make me one.
Paganism has been my one and only religion.

Semjaza
June 4th, 2006, 08:49 PM
Oh shit!
I left out the 'I was not raised Christian and am not now.'
That was going to be the last option, but I got distracted with my funny jab. :(

Yeah, this was the one I was looking for... raised in the Baha'i Faith...

Cheers,

Semjaza
FFFF

AkashaW
June 8th, 2006, 02:37 AM
This is a little tricky. I was raised both Christian and non-Christian, and my belief now encompass Jesus as a Dying God, the Virgin Mary as a Mother Goddess, and Mary Magdalene as a Priestess - just as Dumuzi is a Dying God, Inanna is a Mother Goddess and Shelebum is a Priestess. I honor many forms of God/desses as such and to me, Christian mythology is no different than Sumerian or Greek or Norse or Celtic or Egyptian or Mayan etc.etc.etc

cheddarsox
June 15th, 2006, 07:24 AM
Raised Catholic, bagged the Dogma for the message of Christ and spent a decade and a half in liberal Protestantism, life and some deep spiritual experiences brought me to pantheism, but I still follow much of the teaching of Christ, and often attend a christian church for communal worship, but practice pantheism as a religion, ritual, prayer, etc.

cheddar

Crystal Raven
June 15th, 2006, 07:49 AM
I was raised "Christian" sort of...we said grace and prayers and even went to church on Sundays, and learned their most common myths and legends. BUT (and this is odd) my mother was a Nature lover, talked to trees, listened to the wind, smelt for the rain and we were out in the elements more often than not, walking was a favourite activity. Also most of my family were Seers, my mother read Bicycle Playing Cards with deadly accuracy, my grandmother read the tea leaves just as well etc...
So am now a Hedge Witch :)

Tarbh Nathroch
June 15th, 2006, 09:48 AM
I was raised in a very devout Roman Catholic family and did K through 8 in a Catholic school. It was a very interesting experience and they did give me a great education but it gave me just a little too much time with the Bible and Catholic beliefs as see with the wonderfully active and powerful mind of a child. I was a bit of a troublemaker so I have copied the Bible more than most 13th century monks, I have my Bible learnin’ down. (yea try and knock on my door to sell me Jesus, I’ll rip you up with yer own book)

I saw and still see so many problems with what that religion has become today. I got so disillusioned buy what is taught vs. the way it’s practiced. All the time hearing these great teachings of Jesus and seeing the meaning of the teaching twisted to fit financial and political ends.

To hear love your neighbor…and see a history of convert or destroy, about forgiveness and the love of God…but all other are going to burn in hell. To watch people carry on and do just about anything they want because they can go to confession and be forgiven. I just never saw confession as an “OK” to be a rotten person.

Thank God for my Nana. She was the most amazingly devote and practicing Catholic I have ever seen, she lived and breathed it. She lived it to the letter yet I never saw her judge or talk down another belief. I could always count on her for a reasonable answer when I would ask her about the silly, out ragas stuff the nuns would tell me.

I once asked her about hell, since I had just had the nuns tell me all the other religions, except for the Jewish folks who are ok apparently, are going to hell, that I’m going to hell because I didn’t do my homework and other ‘sins’. She told me that hell was actually a very, very hard place to get into and that God does not punish people for being wrong or making bad choices, it would take a true monster to not feel bad about their wrong doings and just feeling bad about it is a form of asking for forgiveness. She was a follower of a VERY loving and forgiving god. And after seeing how a Catholic could be, it breaks my heart to see the Bible thumping, doom saying, unforgiving, intolerant haters that so many have become.

My favorite thing to do to Christians is point out that they are breaking the false idol commandment by being “Christ”ians. Depending on which version of the Bible they are holding it can have up to four references of Jesus correcting his disciples about worshiping him. Saying that he is not god and that all worship and praise are to go to the Farther, to God. Yet just buy calling them selves Christian they have missed the core of his teachings. How often do you hear a born-again or other hard core fundy mention God? All I hear is “Jesus is my personal savior”, “ I love Jesus”, “thank you Jesus”, “Praise Jesus”.

Wow that was longer than I was going to post and it comes off as a bit of a bash. Bummer, not my intention.

lady_fey
June 15th, 2006, 01:38 PM
I was raised as a Jehovah's Witness. I technically left last year, but had started my exit about 2 years ago this spring.
I basically had stopped attending the services at the Kingdom Hall (where they worship) and my family wanted to know why, I sent them a letter which was the equivilent of a disassociation letter meaning, well, I don't want to do this anymore this is why. And I haven't heard from them since, save for a short abrupt call from an inlaw but that's a whole other issue.
My stance on Christianity is basically this:
I have my own thoughts about Jesus which I may or may not share with an individual. I generally take issue with Anyone who believes that if I don't believe as they do I'll be cast into the fires of hell. I live in Michigan and thankfully we have a pretty nice mix of people in our area and the surrounding ones.
I think the general philosophy of people in the area tends to be, do unto others as you would have them do to you and we all have our own path.
Of course that doesn't apply to the JW's who believe that anyone who doesn't agree with them will be permanently destroyed by Jehovah at Armageddon.
I might not agree with the Orthodox or fundamentalist views of Jesus, but I believe that those who hold those views have the right to do so. As much as I respect those, I only ask that others respect mine and not look down their nose at me if I choose to share what's going on in my head.
Since leaving the JW's I have been interested in religion period. Interested in it's history, interested in it's rituals and practices and beliefs. I have for a time thought that I would enjoy being a Catholic. But, while I still find their teachings interesting and somewhat in tune to what I think, at this point, I can't see myself going down that road.
So, I've sort of decided to make up my own religion. If that's what I should call it. My own personal ritual and devotion to the Divine. I don't see the Divine as being exclusively male or female, but a beautiful perfect balance of both. I think that the Divine is not sitting around and plucking people off their 'good' list for not using the right name. I also think on the other hand, what matters most is the love we share and the hope we have. And how those two things influence our daily lives.
And to me, when I look at some of the thoughts of Jesus, I think we would get along pretty ok.
Lady Fey
:RuNew:
:elf: :flowers:

jaded_love
June 18th, 2006, 08:41 PM
I was raised a Christian as my Grandparents on my mother's side were Missionaries who went to places that persecuted Christians for their beliefs such as China since they both speak fluent Mandarin/Cantonese and to other countries around the world.

I have strayed from religion a bit, but have found that by listening to what many people have to say about things I gain more personal knowledge. I have always been a receptive person who has a good heart and believes in learning by experiencing. I believe in God, and that there are divine beings out there such as angels and powers beyond our comprehension. I believe that prayer works, and that believing in something rather than convincing ourselves that something cannot happen is often the best way to resort to things. I think that it is good to have faith in everything that you do, because life is all about taking risks and gaining awareness of your surroundings, instead of wondering "what ifs" thinking in hindsight about what might have happened if only you would have done what your heart and mind told you.

Everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion, but in reality there is no "right" or "wrong" it is only one's perception of what they think is the correct way to do things. Perhaps that is why I ventured into this site, because of HH and I being so different in terms of what we thought yet co-existing as a couple for so long. Now, I'm more open to others opinions on things and welcome the Theologian approach to everything. I appreciate those who have a good heart and who can be more open to thinking outside of the box.

This reminds me of a Southpark episode where everyone was standing there in front of the Devil and wondering what happened since they were devoted to their religions and they asked so who ended up going to Heaven; they asked him about Christians, Catholics, Jews... and he replied "no you are all wrong it was the Mormons." :lol:

Morgandria
June 19th, 2006, 02:22 AM
There's no option for not raised Christian and still not Christian.

shuvanilu
June 19th, 2006, 05:09 PM
Raised Mormon. Now Wiccan. I do use touches of Gnosticism and Ceremonial Magicks occasionally, so there are some Christian-ish influences, but I wouldn't call what I do "christian" per-se.---shuvanilu

Agaliha
June 24th, 2006, 01:49 AM
I voted: I was not raised Christian, but I became a Christian, but later left the faith

Because well for about a year (and a half maybe) I considered myself Christian. I went to RCIA and Mass a few times. I read the Gospels, prayed the Rosary, read about Jesus.
But the one thing I lacked was faith. I was just trying to fit in somewhere, this was when I was younger-- 15 or 16 I think. My best friend at the time got me started with the RCIA classes and I got hooked on seeing the church dark, candlelit, empty and quiet at night. It was soo pretty and peaceful...::sigh:: I still miss it.
I still have a draw to Catholic things, but I have no belief. Not in a Christianly way.
I never completed Confirmation either...never got baptized, never was for that matter.

Doctor Jeep
June 24th, 2006, 10:16 PM
I had a "bout" with born-again Christianity when I was much younger. It didn't take me long to realize that I really didn't believe. I wanted to, but didn't deep down; it just didn't make sense. A soul? Pass on everything this life has to offer for the hope of a blissful afterlife? Didn't take at all.

As much as thinking about that time makes me cringe, I'm glad I went through it. It really opened my eyes.

AletheiaRivers
June 25th, 2006, 10:27 PM
I was raised in an agnostic enviroment. In my teenage years I experimented with Golden Dawn and later Wicca.

Around the time of my 21rst birthday, I became a Christian (of a very literal, conservative bent). I left that after 9 years.

Since then I've bounced back and forth between liberal Christianity and paganism, making me pretty much a Christo-pagan hybrid. :hehehehe:

Hermgirl
June 26th, 2006, 03:08 AM
Interesting--there's nine of us, I thought there would be more.

bbnflpn
June 26th, 2006, 06:57 AM
no other position.

i was not raised christian for the most part, i never had a definate religous up bringing my mom (cause dad really hates all religons) said that i would find the path that was right for me and let me float around, and i am now comfortable with what i am

Ninjakitten
June 26th, 2006, 10:39 PM
I was raised in an agnostic enviroment. In my teenage years I experimented with Golden Dawn and later Wicca.

Around the time of my 21rst birthday, I became a Christian (of a very literal, conservative bent). I left that after 9 years.

Since then I've bounced back and forth between liberal Christianity and paganism, making me pretty much a Christo-pagan hybrid. :hehehehe:


Are you a Gemini too? :D

AletheiaRivers
June 27th, 2006, 09:29 AM
Are you a Gemini too? :D

Nope. Water baby. Cancer. :hahugh:

Seasaidh
June 27th, 2006, 11:02 AM
I am currently being raised as Christian by my loving grandparents, who prefer to teach by example rather than preach to me constantly (thank the gods). I suppose I would call them liberal Christians since they definately aren't crazy conservative. Up until middle school (when I was 11 yrs old) I was active in our church (Baptist), prayed every night, blessed my food, etc. but then after going through some troubles with fitting in, I realized that I was only practicing Christiantity so that I would fit in with my friends and family. After that I was much more skeptical and questioned my faith more.

For a while I was atheist, though I still attended church to keep my family happy. In eigth grade (when I was 13), I became best friends with a girl who attended one of those churches that do the whole 'healing' thing and speak in tongue, etc. (Sorry, I don't remember the actual denomination). There was a lot of energy and I really liked it until the preacher began to get political with his sermon. I'm one of the many youths in my generation that believes homosexuality is just another life choice, that abortion should be a personal decision that should only be moderated by the government not controlled by the government, and other 'crazy' liberal ideas. For a while, through the girl's friendship, my faith in Christianity was restored. Then I realized then that what the pastors were preaching didn't agree with my own personal beliefs. I thought it was fine if someone wanted to practice a different religion and that I shouldn't stick my nose into their business and try to force Christianity on them. I thought that people should be allowed to make their own choices; why would a loving god want to control his people like a dictator would?

My opinions on Jesus are a bit confusing but I think it boils down to the fact that he is a good role model who did some pretty amazing things, but wasn't God personified or anything like that. I began to link prayer to spells, and miracles to magic (which really began to tick off my sunday school teachers). I realized that, while I love many of Jesus's teachings, there are many parts of the Bible and general Christian doctrine that I disagree with. My family and began to tell me that other faiths were leading me on, that their beliefs were lies, basically that 'other religions only tell you what you want to hear, our religion gives you what you need'. That really didn't sit well with me because I knew that if they didn't like what was in Christianity that they wouldn't be a part of it, and that all religions, at some level, 'tell you what you want to hear', but that doesn't mean they aren't just as valid as any other religion.

So, once I started highschool I realized that Christianity wasn't working well with my own beliefs, that practicing the religion was becoming a chore. So, I decided that I no longer wanted to be Chrisitian and began to look into other religions. Out of fear of being rejected by my family, I kept my research hidden and still kept up the appearances of a 'nice, Christian girl'. I discovered Wicca through a classmate, who was telling me about her family and their beliefs (her parents are Wiccan). At the time, I thought that meant her parents were evil sorcerers or something and was confused by the description the girl was giving me. So, I looked on the internet (luckily I found a reputable site) and found that what the girl was describing, a peaceful nature religion with the worship of a God and Goddess, was what Wicca really was as opposed to what I had been taught by my family and the media. I continued to look at Wicca for a year before informing my grandparents that I no longer considered myself Christian. That in itself was a blow to them but I took the time to explain my reasons. I also told them about how I was looking into other religions like Wicca. They haven't accepted the fact that their granddaughter might be one of those 'scary Pagans' in the future, but they haven't been horrible about it either.

I still attend church with them almost every Sunday (I don't bother going unless I know the sermon will be good) and celebrate holidays with them, but I also discuss my own religious beliefs with them whenever I am sure that they will listen and not judge. They've told me that as long as I live with them (three years to go) I will have to go to church with them (to get the morals I so desperately need in my life :lol: ), they don't want me preforming any rituals inside their house (though they don't seem to have a problem with candle magic :thumbsup: ) , and other little guidelines like that. However, with my grandmum's love of nature and my grandpa's borderline hippie attitude, I'm sure they'll come around soon and realize that just because I'm looking into a religion other than their own doesn't mean that I'm a horrible person that doesn't love them, or they have failed at raising me properly. :goodgrief

To sum it up- I chose the first option. :lol:

Keith Dragon
June 28th, 2006, 04:26 AM
I'm a recovered Catholic. That is all that needs to be said about that. Those that know, know what I mean.

Ryden
July 26th, 2006, 09:24 PM
I think I needed an extended poll option--raised Christian, turned Pagan, and back again :hahugh:

Lahmi
July 27th, 2006, 08:30 AM
former occultist... now christian. :)

Bluewillow
July 27th, 2006, 09:03 AM
I was raised strictly Baptist Christian. By the time I was in my teens, I just figured out that it didn't suit me, personally. I don't believe in hell, I don't believe that humans are inherently bad, I don't believe that the bible is the true word of God. There were tenets of the religion that I just could not agree with. I am now basically pagan, but don't have a set path as of yet since I am still studying various aspects of paganism and the various paths. However, my entire family is Christian (well, with the exception of my husband and his side of the family). My grandmother believes that I am still firmly Christian, and the majority of the rest of my family believes I am still Christian with alternative views. lol My mom knows that I've been moving toward paganism for years, or at least that I have been studying various aspects of it for a few years. So, simply put, I was a Christian, but am now a Pagan.

darkest_destiny
July 28th, 2006, 09:12 PM
raised in a pentecostal church and was dedicated before I turned 1. and I was pretty much a christian until I was around 13..and sort of off and on for a year after that but now I know for sure that I'm not. And I'm not sure where I stand right now as far as religion goes...maybe some day down the line I'll find it. I'm still forced to go to church on sundays and wednesdays but I deal with it...by sleeping..lol..

TheRiverDaughter
February 14th, 2007, 04:15 PM
Raised moderate Christian, became traditional (non-evangelical, non-fundamentalist) Christian in HS, now a Christian/Pagan hybrid.

CoolJ
February 14th, 2007, 05:32 PM
I was raised in a household with Christian traditions but was never baptised, wore no symbols, was never told a specific name of religion, I never even read the bible. I am.

BrightStar
February 14th, 2007, 06:51 PM
Gosh,I don't fit in this poll at all
I was raised with no religion,and ended up agnostic with a lot of Pagan ideas.

Peace and Love
BrightStar

Aina
March 1st, 2007, 10:03 AM
I was raised in a Seventh Day Adventist home, went to SDA school, and went to church until I was 7. I haven't been to church in years, and i think that's kind why I am the way I am now. I'm a Christian/Pagan hybrid I guess.

gwendar
March 11th, 2007, 08:27 PM
I voted "raised ultrafundie Christian, but am not now."
My family is Pentecostal. Literal bible interpretion, biblical infalibility, speaking in tongues, spreading the gospal, and hell for all non-Christians and homosexuals and all that jazz.
Yeah. Not so much my thing.
I'm more a freethinker/agnostic/non-theist.... Who wants to find a non-theistic approach to spirituality. But I don't even know if that can happen... Although I suppose it could... (/ramble)

Lauren Michele
March 11th, 2007, 08:38 PM
I was raised a Catholic. Became just a Christian, and am now Pagan. I do still have feelings for Christ, belief, and such. But I do not talk to Jesus or pray. I have or will not completely deny or throw away my Christian feelings.

plumedsnake
March 12th, 2007, 02:52 PM
I'm a christian. Hmmm . . . but I'm not sure the others are though.

Interesting point. Did anyone know that the word Atheist was first used to refer to Christians? Romans called them Atheists because they wouldn't worship and didn't believe in the gods. It's funny how the meaning of words evolve. Much like the meaning of the word Christian itself.

HadouKen24
March 12th, 2007, 03:43 PM
I checked the "raised ultrafundie, but not Christian anymore" box.

Technically, I really wasn't raised by ultrafundies. They weren't that bad. They were and are, however, more toward the strict end. Definitely not liberal Christians.

Christianity is behind me now, though. As time has gone on, I've become less and less Christian in belief and attitude.

AmyDarling
March 13th, 2007, 12:09 AM
Oh shit!
I left out the 'I was not raised Christian and am not now.'
That was going to be the last option, but I got distracted with my funny jab. :(

yeah I was looking for that option lol

Spirit of Balance
March 13th, 2007, 05:39 PM
I'm Christian but not to the point that I'll try to convert you, which is why I never take anyone to my church. But since I practice magic, and dont agree with alot of thier beliefs, I guess I'm only half Christian. Religion is a funny thing, is it not?

lightdragon
April 15th, 2007, 06:28 PM
voted I was not raised Christian, but I became a Christian, but later left the faith .parents are mixed Jewish/Christian. My father left when i was a few months old. Was trained to just respect my jewish hertiage. i become a born-again Christian in HS. Due to the racial intolerance in Queens,NY one Pastor recommended that I try New Age in my late 20's. Because if i joined a congrassion there i would be outcasted or even killed. Also i lost faith and felt the religion empty to me. like i didn`t belong. After floating through the New Agers online. i drifted toward Wicca and Neo-paganism. where i feel content and at peace.

Baba Yaga
April 15th, 2007, 06:38 PM
Its what my parents raised me to be, but you know, best laid plans and all that.

Brightshores
April 15th, 2007, 07:06 PM
I was raised as a fairly liberal Lutheran by a fervently religious mother (who ironically has no idea about Biblical scholarship or religious history - I think she just went for the potlucks). I was rather religious for a while, until I started seeing what seemed to me as logical inconsistencies and historical and textual errors that have crept in over the years. I have the highest respect for the teachings of Christ, as they were before the influences of St Paul and St Augustine started (IMHO) bending them out of all recognition. However, that path is no longer for me.

So, to make a long story short, I am now an eclectic Pagan, and very happy to be so.

Athena-Nadine
April 15th, 2007, 07:10 PM
I couldn't vote. There was no option for "I was not raised a Christian and I am not one now." I was never Christian. My current religion is the only religion I have ever followed. I have been worshiping my gods since I was a small child.

LadyAquamarina
April 15th, 2007, 08:40 PM
I tried to be Christian in the past because everyone always told me it was the "right" thing to do, but it just did not feel right to me.

gypsy0108
April 18th, 2007, 02:38 PM
I was a preachers daughter but am now pagan

wolf
May 24th, 2007, 09:21 PM
I am a Recovering Cathoholic, which, as any Catholic will tell you is not the same as being "Christian" (aka any flavor of Protestant), so I couldn't respond to the poll.

(oops. I found out as I read through the earlier answers, that I had already responded to the question, giving pretty much the same answer as here!)

Sage Rainsong
May 25th, 2007, 11:40 AM
I was raised Christian, more specifically a liberal Catholic.

faery songs
June 9th, 2007, 03:37 PM
I was baptized a conservative Lutheran (Missouri Synod).

Dark Phoenix
July 21st, 2007, 12:26 AM
I was first baptized protestant (Church of the Nazarene) but later re-baptized and raised catholic at the behest of my Grand mother only leave the church when I was seventeen.

Lauren Michele
July 21st, 2007, 12:51 AM
I was baptized a Roman Catholic.

RubyRose
July 21st, 2007, 03:19 AM
I was never Christian, and am not currently Christian.

Tanya
July 21st, 2007, 03:48 AM
raised very liberal catholic (the silent pro-choice branch)

couldn't handle the mysogyny... left in my early teens

Earthy
July 21st, 2007, 01:02 PM
I was a christian but was unable to fully embrace it, it didnt *feel* right,whereas the path I am on now feels the right one for me.

Aelfred
July 21st, 2007, 02:15 PM
Religion was never mentioned too often when I was growing up, it just didn't factor in to things. My parents are both atheist/agnostic and didn't care if I decided to be religious or not.

When I was in my early twenties I decided to explore Christianity. I was mostly interested in Protestantism and Eastern Orthodox denominations. I wasn't able to "get into it" though.

After studying it's history I found that Christianity is a confused mish-mash of oriental cults, Greek philosophy, and heretical Judaism. How can a faith like this claim to be the one true religion? I was also bothered by the fact that Xtianity has never had much unity, but a tendancy to split off into bickering sects. That was my line of thinking anyway.

A few years ago I gave up on Abrahamism and started studying Dharmic religions and paganism. Eventually leading me to Germanic heathenry.

triple_D
July 27th, 2007, 12:04 AM
I relized about 8yrs ago that i have more of a "pagen" beleif system but I still hold the ideals of christanty close to my heart. If asked do i belieive in Jesus Christ I will answer yes, if asked do I believe that the bible is the word of God i would be forced to answer at one time yes but not anymore. :crown:

latin_baller
July 27th, 2007, 05:51 PM
i think the reason there are "christopagans" is because they are still going to hell. i reccomend blasphemy (especially to the holy spirit because blasphemy against the holy spirit can never be forgiven. ). with blasphemy you wont bother reconverting and/or holding on to christianity because according to the bible youre going to hell anyway:).

triple_D
July 28th, 2007, 01:21 AM
i think the reason there are "christopagans" is because they are still going to hell. i reccomend blasphemy (especially to the holy spirit because blasphemy against the holy spirit can never be forgiven. ). with blasphemy you wont bother reconverting and/or holding on to christianity because according to the bible youre going to hell anyway:).

Are you quoting the bible as it is written today because if you are then you must know that the bible was passed down orally b4 it was written into text and then it has been translated hundreds if not thousends of times since then. with that being considerd their is no living person that can say for %100 that the bible is correct. Plus according to the bible the only sin that is unforgivable is suscide because once your dead you can not ask for forgivness. If blasphemy was unforgivable then this entire world is going to hell because i do not know of one person who has not taken the lords name in vain or questioned his word. Going strictly by tech terms questioning the word of god is blasphemy and Jesus christ himself did that before he died on the cross. (Why have you forsaken me)

Now this only holds true if christianty is the one true religen. and considering that Christ was born a jew and was raised a jew and died a jew then i think that means christianty has some roots with the jewish religen also. Thiswould mean that Christanity is not the one true path but it is one of many that has splinttered into many.

Doodlebug
August 26th, 2007, 03:34 AM
Unfortunately, there is no appropriate poll option for me. I was raised a Southern Baptist (conservative, even fundamentalist, christian), later became a liberal Christian and then left the faith for Paganism.

TheWomanMonster
September 1st, 2007, 02:43 AM
I was raised a combo of ultra-fundie and plain old Christian.
But I'm not now.
Noooope.

SoulFire
September 15th, 2007, 03:13 AM
Unfortunately, there is no appropriate poll option for me. I was raised a Southern Baptist (conservative, even fundamentalist, christian), later became a liberal Christian and then left the faith for Paganism.

I'm confused, as last November (http://mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?t=144679) you said you were Catholic, but your LJ profile says that you are Pentacostal. :huh: It's none of my business really; I'm just curious, as a long-term friend of mine recently converted from Paganism to Pentacostalism, and she has now decided that Wicca is of the Devil, and has urged me to get rid of all my Witchcraft books. :twitch: Needless to say, I can't have a conversation with her anymore. :ggrief:

Peace,
SF

SoulFire
September 15th, 2007, 03:27 AM
My mother was Christian, but I was raised by my great-grandmother who practiced folk magic. When I was I was 13, I met my first Craft teacher, and have been a Witch ever since. I am not anti-Christian.

KiNoRonin
September 15th, 2007, 05:37 PM
I was Baptized a Lutheran Christian, but am now a Devote Pagan/Druid with Reverance for Japanese Budhims and Shintoism.

When I read the Histories of how much Pain and Sufferage the Christians (as well as the Islamics and Judhism) have Inflicted upon their Fellow Mankind in the Names of their Religions, I no longer wish to have anything at all to do with those Faiths.

The last time I was in one of those Churches was for my Grandmother's Memorial Service. I went into the Lutheran Church cause my Beloved Grandma was a Devote Lutheran. I basically went in just to pay my Respects to my Grandmother, but not her Church.

KNR

Covetous
September 21st, 2007, 10:41 PM
I was raised Catholic but got out of all that years ago.

Chaos Hawk
October 8th, 2007, 08:55 PM
I chose liberal christian because my parents were christian. They were not really practicing christians. My mother went to church twice a year and my father never went at all. We discussed issues of faith in my house, but as intellectual issues, rather than spiritual ones. I think they were surprised that I got into paganism, more because I have deep faith more than it is other than how I was raised.

lizea
October 9th, 2007, 01:40 AM
I was born and raised a Catholic until I was about nine, then started going to a Methodist church. Not anymore...

sarabethv
October 9th, 2007, 01:49 AM
You didn't have a button for me.

I was raised sorta at times Catholic, but my mother and her sisters were witches, so she was a Catholic witch. However, she was a liberal in the manner of my upbringing, taking me to whatever church I wanted to check out and buying whatever books would help me look into things. I have been several religions, or at least joined their ranks in order to find out more about them, and now have decided on what I am which is zen taoist kemetic witch.

Bettie
October 9th, 2007, 01:51 AM
My parents were both hippy-types who believed in letting us choose our own path. We were encouraged to learn about and research a variety of belief systems, and go with where we felt we belonged.

Lady Aeris
October 9th, 2007, 08:45 AM
i've investigated- dad's girlfriends have been christian for the most part, the lost soul type, and i figured i should learn what they were trying to drag him into. after many years and hard research, i regard it as simply a false religion and *knows i'll get kicked for this* bullshit. I have my reasons- im not an angry anti-christian bible burner, its not like i have beef with the church- i just have my oppinions and heavy backup.


If you kick me, i'll call Klucky so we can all get over it and laugh. im warning you.

shadowmoon23
November 26th, 2007, 05:53 PM
I agree with you, Scarlett Dream... I was raised that I could believe whatever it was that I wanted to believe, became a christian, was severly let down, so I'm not anymore!! Although, I am a bit more hot headed towards it than you are... not towards christians themselves, as I don't care what others do, but about the religion itself...

The Amityville Ghost
November 26th, 2007, 06:21 PM
I can't vote on the poll, because the option that best suits me isn't included. My parents gave me an agnostic upbringing, and I have never been a Christian (though some of my friends tried really hard to sway me). I just began to develop into what I am today during junior high school.

Halstrom
November 26th, 2007, 06:40 PM
I voted that I was raised as a Liberal Christian, which is actually closest to how I was actually raised. I was raised as a nondenominational Christian, which given the fact that I was raised by two Catholics (I'm assuming my grandmother was a Catholic) is quiet surprising.

Alitheos
November 26th, 2007, 07:19 PM
I believe in the essence of christianity, and the messiah. But like communism, it is impossible to implement properly due to the innate corruption and general stupidity of people in large groups.

Sethserpenthus
November 26th, 2007, 09:07 PM
I used to be Catholic, I was raised into a really liberal Christian household (so we really weren't expected to do everything the "right way,"), I actually converted before it even occurred to me that there was a problem with Christians being intolerant or anything like that. I actually think it's an advantage.

The Amityville Ghost
November 27th, 2007, 12:34 AM
I believe in the essence of christianity, and the messiah. But like communism, it is impossible to implement properly due to the innate corruption and general stupidity of people in large groups.

I think that's true of all religions and spiritual paths, including ours (plural).

WitchyLady777
November 27th, 2007, 01:40 AM
Nope...

Flirted with it a couple of times but eventually decided that while I liked Yeshua's teachings for the most part, I didn't agree with all of them, and definitely didn't like Christianity as a religion, as it was being practiced by the vast majority today.

I tend to like the non-canon writings when it comes to Jeshua, the Magdalene, and his mother.

The Bible's version of Jeshua not as appealing to me, shrug.

LostSheep
November 27th, 2007, 06:41 AM
I believe in the essence of christianity, and the messiah. But like communism, it is impossible to implement properly due to the innate corruption and general stupidity of people in large groups.

I think the real irony is that what I think Jesus really wanted was that people shouldn't have to obey church hierarchies, that they shouldn't have to attend churches in large groups, that they should have a personal relationship with whatever his notion of God may have been (and I think it was rather different to mainstream church thinking). Why did he always criticise the priests and say that the temple would come tumbling down? Because he saw it as just a way for the elite to control the people, and he didn't think that that was how it should be done.

So I think the way I see it is: Jesus yes; the Christian religion, while I don't reject it completely, I can't relate to it persoannly, and I don't think that Jesus would have even thought it was necessary.

Lyrien
November 27th, 2007, 09:13 AM
I have never been Christian.





I think the real irony is that what I think Jesus really wanted was that people shouldn't have to obey church hierarchies, that they shouldn't have to attend churches in large groups, that they should have a personal relationship with whatever his notion of God may have been (and I think it was rather different to mainstream church thinking). Why did he always criticise the priests and say that the temple would come tumbling down? Because he saw it as just a way for the elite to control the people, and he didn't think that that was how it should be done.



I agree with this statement.

ROSBAT
December 7th, 2007, 10:00 PM
i was catholic my whole family is from that religion now i have my own belief because there is some stuff from the bible the is that i questioned alot and didn't felt right to worship something that i didn't believe and i realized and i became wiccan and i feel happy

FiresSong
December 8th, 2007, 01:39 AM
Can't vote - I wasn't raised liberal Christian nor was I ultra fundie. My church was somewhere in the middle of the two.

And erlack to the "burning times" answer. :nuhuh:

darkchild
December 8th, 2007, 10:44 PM
Raised as a JW, left at the age of 20.

I have always been a pagan at heart, though. Maybe that's why I left christianity.

HedwigHarfang
December 8th, 2007, 11:42 PM
I would need an option "I was not raised Christian, and am not now". I am Jewish with a Christian first wife, a Christian second wife and two children who I tried to bring up Jewish but, being in a majority Christian culture, they went their separate ways despite me insisting on bat/bar mitzvah for both of them and at least a cursory cheder course at the local synagogue. Luckily this was all over before I got famous because since then it has been difficult for any of us to practice our religion (with the exception of Louise who is a confirmed Anglican and has practiced in the relative comfort of being anonymous...she doesn't go to church here in Folkestone at the moment but once we are settled both of us intend to worship openly in our personal faiths as "celebrity" should not mean I am too scared to go to synagogue as I used to before 1990).

We respect paganism - all of us, even my evangelical son who believed that Christ fulfilled Judaism and converted while still considering himself Jewish at heart - and we understand that paganism is just a catch-all word for non-monotheistic religions. Although as a Jew I do believe in one Divine source, I by no means rule out the existence of separate traditions, separate ideas of what that Source is (whether Spirit, Reason, morality, a humanistic term) and understand in the long run our mutual human condition is best solved by rapprochement between faiths rather than colonisation by one alone (including paganism as it is understood by many neo-pagans).

EDIT - I've answered the question for Louise - "I was raised Christian and still am (Christian/Pagan hybrid)" - as she claims to be "the nearest thing the Anglicans have to a witch".

PrincessKLS
December 8th, 2007, 11:42 PM
I was raised in a very strict Christian household and for a few years I went back and forth but now I'm a moderate Christopagan.

Green Mantle
December 8th, 2007, 11:45 PM
I was raised Christian and actually went through a period a few years ago in which I was thouroughly engrossed in the church. However several events in my life have soured me to that faith. I have been gay all of my life and was raised to believe that homosexuality was one of the worst sins one could commit. I've serioulsy considered suicide becasue I figured why go through this hell on earth? Why not just get over with and go on. However I can no longer continue to embrace a religion which cannot embrace me. After having been married to a very domineering woman for 20 years then going through a nasty divorce, going through a banckrauptcy, and now keeping my partner from commiting suicide himself, I just cannot believe in a god who could allow someone to go through so much misery.

PrincessKLS
December 8th, 2007, 11:49 PM
I personally don't believe god or even Jesus has issues with homosexuality. I think it may have been other early Jews or Pharisees who hated it so.

darkchild
December 9th, 2007, 01:35 AM
I was raised Christian and actually went through a period a few years ago in which I was thouroughly engrossed in the church. However several events in my life have soured me to that faith. I have been gay all of my life and was raised to believe that homosexuality was one of the worst sins one could commit. I've serioulsy considered suicide becasue I figured why go through this hell on earth? Why not just get over with and go on. However I can no longer continue to embrace a religion which cannot embrace me. After having been married to a very domineering woman for 20 years then going through a nasty divorce, going through a banckrauptcy, and now keeping my partner from commiting suicide himself, I just cannot believe in a god who could allow someone to go through so much misery.

I know how you feel. I can place no belief in a "creator" that allows such suffering.

I just do not believe that a divine being that supposedly has such love for their creations would do that.

You have suffered much. Hopefully, it has made you stronger and more able. I wish you happiness and peace.

Liberty
December 9th, 2007, 06:49 AM
I wasn't sure how to vote so I didn't.
I was baptized a Lutheran and my first experiences with church was at a Lutheran one then I switched to Baptist, then Methodist and so on. While I was going to church but catholic and christian I also attended Buddhist temple because my family is half Christian and half Buddhist.
Technically I wasn't raised to be either, I was raised in both teachings and my parents let me choose my own path.
So yeah, now I'm agnostic.

TygerTyger
April 14th, 2008, 08:14 AM
My mother is a Catholic and my father C of E. We went to Sunday School as children but I was never comfortable in church then and am less so now.

Whenever I asked about why God made me with two disabilities I never got a clear answer, always something along the lines of the God works in mysterious ways! cliché.

I still believe that there is merit in the teachings of Jesus; if more people followed his teachings, as opposed to his church, the world would be a better place.

Through Pantheism I’ve made sense of my birth and come to accept that being disabled is not the act of some vengeful god, nor a means of teaching other people how we should treat one another, it was part of the miracle of life that also led me to have aptitudes in art, literature, thinking and being a loving husband.

Amanda Mitchell
April 25th, 2008, 02:44 AM
I was raised Christian but now I am trying to get away from that mindset and find my own way. :)

Solya
April 25th, 2008, 04:40 AM
I was raised as a Christian, as some of you may already know, but I'm pretty set in my Pagan ways nowadays. I still believe in some of the things Christianity attaches a large amount of value to, but I also believe that the type of worship within the Church and the rules and regulations surrounding the faith itself are not for me. I was raised pretty liberally in my faith, though, so I guess you can say that I have never actually been forced to make a choice between Christianity and Paganism. I love both faiths, but feel more comfortable in the Pagan ways.

Doodlebug
April 28th, 2008, 07:16 PM
I voted for the 2nd option although the Southern Baptist church I was raised in was not really an ultra-fundie church. It was a fundie church to be sure but not an ultra-fundie church. I spent most of my time in fundie churches throughout my adolescent and young adult years. I spent a year or two in Paganism and also in the Occult. I have finally decided to be an Eclectic Wiccan.

Jezibaba
July 2nd, 2008, 03:57 PM
I was raised a Christian but never really attended church or identified with it, so the change from Christian to Pagan was not very hard.

Caitlin.ann
July 2nd, 2008, 04:10 PM
I was raised Christian but I am now an eclectic pagan.

Fireheart
July 2nd, 2008, 04:32 PM
Raised Baptist. Not really fundie, just conservative. Am not Christian by any stretch anymore.

hitsuzen
July 2nd, 2008, 05:43 PM
I clicked "raised ultrafundie/am not now."
Not technically true, though.
I wouldn't say my upbringing was ultrafundie
but I wouldn't call it liberal either...
soooo whatever.
I guess closer to fundie than liberal.

Anyway, Pagan now...
But I still think Jesus is a great figure

Cloaked Raven
July 2nd, 2008, 06:00 PM
I was raised in the Anglican/Episcopalian faith by a very narrow minded mother. It wasn't until I hit my teens that I saw how many people of other religions suffered due to some Christians not being open minded enough to accept others outside of the Christian faith.

When I was in my late 20s, I was talking to a very long time friend of mine who said she was Wiccan. She expected me to freak out and never speak to her again. My reaction was, "Who cares? You're a good person and that's all that matters to me!" She then told me about her faith and I had been drawn to it.

But for some reason, I couldn't make the leap to leave Christianity. I guess my mother ingrained it in me too deep.

Five years ago, I found a book. It's written by a Catholic nun and it teaches Christians to cast spells and set up their altars. I grabbed it and have never looked back since.

I guess you would call me a Christian Witch. I pray to the Christian Trinity but follow the Witch's code: Harm no one and whatever you send out comes back on you threefold.

So I chose option #6: Raised in Christianity but now am a Christian / Pagan Hybrid.

MoonBreath
July 3rd, 2008, 04:13 PM
I was baptised in and continued to attend the lutheran church in my home town till about age seventeen. I had never fully agreed with some of the things the pastor preached about, and i never really experienced feelings of contentment or happiness there like i do now since the Goddess came into my life. Basically i never felt like i belonged there. Since I was very young , i loved mythology. Any Xena fans here? :) My interests gradually grew over time, with me buying my first "pagany" type book ( Starhawk's Spiral Dance), to discovering mysticwicks. I had my first dream encounter with three forms of the Goddess my junior year of high school, and i've been an almost soley goddess centered neo-pagan ever since! :smile:

Kurt Oration
July 3rd, 2008, 04:37 PM
I'm still a Christian, and I still believe the letter of Gods word.

LadyDancer1181
July 4th, 2008, 12:19 AM
While I wasn't raised from childhood in an uber-fundie home, my parents put me in church at the age of twelve and they followed suit. My dad actually became a deacon. We stayed in church until I was almost nineteen. Being Southern Baptists and my dad being a deacon, we had to be ultra conservative in our actions, dress and manner of speaking. We were expected to set an example and "abstain from the appearance of evil".

I am not a Christian anymore. In fact, the only one who hung onto any of those beliefs was my dad, although he would now be considered "backslidden".

electricpeppers
October 4th, 2008, 12:19 PM
I was a rather crappy 'liberal' Christian (in that I believed in reincarnation and spirits). I never really took any of the religion seriously -- I never said I was Christian. Rather, I was more agnostic than anything else and I would constantly question everything about God etc. I tried to be one but it just never resonated with me at all... worse I hated it.

I was also more of a pantheist for years before I knew what that was. As far as Christinaity goes though, I was Christened and my mum is still a (liberal) Christian but I never held any profoundly Christian beliefs and was never made to either.

YoungSoulRebel
October 8th, 2008, 11:03 PM
I checked "liberal Christian, but not now" because, largely that fits, but not entirely: My family was Catholic and Anglican growing up; my grandparents and mother attended Catholic services, but maintained an Anglican identity due to their dissatisfaction with finding a "good" Episcopal church in Toledo in 1943, when my grandparents emigrated from London and my father's family was very Catholic. My mother was *very* liberal Christian and my father was equal parts liberal/progressive and conservative. My step-mother was Quaker, and I used to attend Quaker meeting house services through high school, even though I was exploring Pagan religions at the time, cos I had the parentally-enforced choice to go either to mass with my father or meeting house with my step-mother. I was never confirmed as a Catholic, so technically, I never really was one, and if the question is "were/are you a Christian", then my answer would be "no" on both counts because my step-mother's meeting house allowed "interfaith" Quaker fellowships, though cos it was a small town, it was to a very small degree. There was one Muslim woman and a couple of Buddhists who attended meeting house periodically; all the people there required was that all who attend ascribe to the Society of Friends' tennants of Unity, Simplicity, and Brotherhood and be respectful toward the teachings of Christ, so I was never a Quaker, either.

Tytania Faerie
November 28th, 2008, 08:23 PM
There is no answer for me either .

I was raised to believe in whatever
I wanted , we never talked about it except once when my mother claimed to be a natural witch and also my aunt , though later my grandmother tried to make me catholic which I followed for a few years and ended up shunning my friends because 50 percent of them were pagan . One of those friends is chaos hawk . She knows me lol , she been my best friend through it all . I
left that for a Christian spiritualist pagan sort of life . So in the end I am a Christian/pagan spiritualist who does believes in one god but a slight universalist who believes in christ but also believes in the world of faeries and angel worship . So I am a messed up individual . I have an odd path , one made up by myself .

I believe that all religions are correct for the individual because whatever you belive in that is where you are going whether be avalon , hell, heaven or someplace else .

For me I am hopefully going on to an astral existance .

So honestly there is no option for me .

Blessings
chas

AkashaLuna
November 28th, 2008, 08:53 PM
It's a lonnnggg story... But basically I wasn't raised christian, but then my mother became christian when I was 13 [the same age I became Wiccan]. She and her new christian husband tried and tried until finally I was "saved" when I was 18, I think. I spent 5 years in hell from that point till about a year ago. I couldn't stand the fake people and their contradictions. Also, one of these so called christians date-raped me, and the whole church acted like it was MY fault... That was just the last straw. Since then, I've realized that I never really strayed from Wicca, etc. So I am regaining my true self through my coven [myspace.com/childrenofisiscoven], and this site!

<3

Louisvillian
November 28th, 2008, 08:59 PM
Nope. Never raised Christian, or by Christians. My parents are atheists and I was raised to believe whatever. Became pagan and Wiccan on my own volition.

So, consequently, I don't understand at all the hostility some pagans and pagan authors show towards Christianity, or the animosity some feminist pagans show towards even the concept of male deity.
I was raised to be tolerant, of anyone's beliefs.

AkashaLuna
November 29th, 2008, 01:20 PM
Nope. Never raised Christian, or by Christians. My parents are atheists and I was raised to believe whatever. Became pagan and Wiccan on my own volition.

So, consequently, I don't understand at all the hostility some pagans and pagan authors show towards Christianity, or the animosity some feminist pagans show towards even the concept of male deity.
I was raised to be tolerant, of anyone's beliefs.

Much of the "animosity" from pagans against the christian religion comes from the atrocities that have been commited in the name of their god throughout history. Others [like myself] may have other reasons too, from personal experience...

Oh and hello fellow Kentuckian! :clapping: LOL.

Cunae
November 29th, 2008, 01:36 PM
Much of the "animosity" from pagans against the christian religion comes from the atrocities that have been commited in the name of their god throughout history. Others [like myself] may have other reasons too, from personal experience...

Oh and hello fellow Kentuckian! :clapping: LOL.

Christian/pagan hybrid here... thanks for inviting me VJ! I was raised Lutheran in a family Lutheran back to Martin himself. I became a Methodist later, but attended Synagogue and UU services for a while. I have explored the mysticism of Catholicism and First Nation faiths... having had a Cheyenne grandmother, that stuff almost genetically appeals to me.

I have always felt deeply the power of Christ in my life and He is the rock of my faith, so while I am a little bit of everything I am Christian at the core.

I wish some pagans/others didn't feel a need to slam Christians [or hate them silently] but I understand where you are coming from re: the behaviors of many of us. It makes me sad to think so many violated everything Christ stood for and taught us.

Cloaked Raven
November 29th, 2008, 01:39 PM
Christian/pagan hybrid here... thanks for inviting me VJ!

You're very welcome my friend! :toofless:

Louisvillian
November 29th, 2008, 02:00 PM
Much of the "animosity" from pagans against the christian religion comes from the atrocities that have been committed in the name of their god throughout history.
Meh. The ones now didn't do all the stuff in the past. Anger as modern Christians for the past is as absurd as anger at white people now because of slavery 150 years ago.


Others [like myself] may have other reasons too, from personal experience...I've had some bad experiences from some Christians as well. But you can't let that become a generalization.

Cunae
November 29th, 2008, 02:04 PM
Meh. The ones now didn't do all the stuff in the past. Anger as modern Christians for the past is as absurd as anger at white people now because of slavery 150 years ago.

I've had some bad experiences from some Christians as well. But you can't let that become a generalization.

Thank you for saying this. I believe it also, like Jews hating all Germans for the Holocaust. However, I think in this case it's the smug "God loves you" attitude Christians profess while ignoring or condoning our historical atrocities.

I am not apologizing as if I committed said crimes, but I am sad that they happened.

LostSheep
November 29th, 2008, 02:42 PM
Much of the "animosity" from pagans against the christian religion comes from the atrocities that have been commited in the name of their god throughout history. .

The great majority of which (unless we're going back to the time of Constantine) were against other Christians, or Moslems or Jews; no one group had a monopoly on being persecuted. And nearly all of which were about power, or wealth, or usually both, camouflaged as being for "religious" reasons.

AkashaLuna
November 29th, 2008, 03:24 PM
I'm not debating this.

I'm not here to argue.

It's not just about the past.

Although most of christianiny
was stolen from pagans.
Such creativity...

And I have met some genuine christians [and was one]
but most of the ones I've encountered were fake people.

That's all I am saying.

I just ton't feel like getting into all the details.

But if you have questions, I have answers.

<3

Darth Wychipu
November 29th, 2008, 03:27 PM
I was not raised Christian...was never even baptised...and have never been a Christian.

Faunus
December 1st, 2008, 06:57 PM
My spiritual path has been a long and winding one. But rather than bore anyone with mundane details, I was raised in a very conservative Christian household, so much so that looking back on it even my mother admits some of the churches we went to were borderline cults. I grew up terrified that the "End Times" were coming at any minute and that I better be right with God or else I was going to find myself left behind when the "Rapture" finally did come.

However, by my teens, I stopped believing in the idea of a Theistic God and began to embrace a much larger view of deity, which led me at first to some more moderate churches in my 20's, then to a more liberal understanding of Christian theology in my early 30's in which I no longer took anything literally (the Bible being the infallible "Word of God", Christ being divine, the existence of a Devil, etc.).

And then I discovered Paganism...

brigidrose
December 1st, 2008, 07:26 PM
I was brought up as a Catholic. I never liked going to church. My Dad would drop off my Mom and I and leave to get coffee and read the paper. I always wanted to go with him.

I did baptise my children,( for my Mom), but that is as far as I went. They are more paganish, with metaphysical views as their parents. They read about all the Masters, Jesus included of course. But with a different version than the bible.
They have been invited to all different churches, from their friends parents, and were always glad not to have been forced into anything "organized".

I guess we are all still searching for what "feels" true to us. I am in a very good place with that, they still have questions about certain things. Luckily we have friends who are like-minded to help.

When people come to my door to give me their booklets, I always make a point to thank them for their time, and to let them know I am happy with my path. Usually they are speechless that I didnt slam the door in their faces. I respect everyone's views as long as they are true to themselves.

Who am I to judge them.

Darth Brooks
December 2nd, 2008, 03:26 AM
I was raised Quaker, but I never really took religion seriously until Set came into my life. So, I have never actually been a Christian, and like Louisvillian it is sometimes difficult for me to understand the animosity that is held toward Christianity by quite a few pagans. For all this talk among pagans about honoring ancestors, what about those of us who have Christian or Jewish or Muslim ancestors? I'm willing to bet that most people on this board have ancestors who fell into at least one of those three groups. This is not a chalkboard, you can't just erase two thousand years' worth of anthropological history and say, "These religions don't matter anymore." Even though my oldest ancestors were pagans, I think it would be shameful and irreligious of me to dismiss the beliefs of my ancestors from the past 2,000 years as "unimportant" or "false" just because they were Christians. Yeah, it's great to celebrate my ancient pre-Christian ancestors - but what about my great great grandparents, who were Quakers, and who helped to free runaway slaves through the Underground Railroad? Those people did what they did because they believed in Jesus and they believed that Jesus would have wanted them to help free black people. Am I to believe they were deluded or just plain evil people, simply because they prayed to Jesus and not to a pagan deity? I think not.

I am not directing these comments at anyone in particular, and the last thing I want to do is to start any kind of fight. But it just seems to me that there is still a knee-jerk reaction against Christianity by many people in paganism, and I think this is a bad sign.

AkashaLuna
December 2nd, 2008, 03:30 PM
Am I to believe they were deluded or just plain evil people, simply because they prayed to Jesus and not to a pagan deity? I think not.

I am not directing these comments at anyone in particular, and the last thing I want to do is to start any kind of fight. But it just seems to me that there is still a knee-jerk reaction against Christianity by many people in paganism, and I think this is a bad sign.

For the record, I don't think christians are evil.
Maybe small-minded, but I guess their ignorance is bliss.

~Elise~
December 2nd, 2008, 03:43 PM
Path bashing is not allowed on MW esp. when you're in the Abrahamic Faiths forum


For the record, I don't think christians are evil.
Maybe small-minded, but I guess their ignorance is bliss.

watersprite
December 2nd, 2008, 03:50 PM
I was raised Episcopalian but left when the priest left, over the hypocrisy of it all.

Cloaked Raven
December 2nd, 2008, 03:54 PM
I was raised Quaker, but I never really took religion seriously until Set came into my life. So, I have never actually been a Christian, and like Louisvillian it is sometimes difficult for me to understand the animosity that is held toward Christianity by quite a few pagans. For all this talk among pagans about honoring ancestors, what about those of us who have Christian or Jewish or Muslim ancestors? I'm willing to bet that most people on this board have ancestors who fell into at least one of those three groups. This is not a chalkboard, you can't just erase two thousand years' worth of anthropological history and say, "These religions don't matter anymore." Even though my oldest ancestors were pagans, I think it would be shameful and irreligious of me to dismiss the beliefs of my ancestors from the past 2,000 years as "unimportant" or "false" just because they were Christians. Yeah, it's great to celebrate my ancient pre-Christian ancestors - but what about my great great grandparents, who were Quakers, and who helped to free runaway slaves through the Underground Railroad? Those people did what they did because they believed in Jesus and they believed that Jesus would have wanted them to help free black people. Am I to believe they were deluded or just plain evil people, simply because they prayed to Jesus and not to a pagan deity? I think not.

I am not directing these comments at anyone in particular, and the last thing I want to do is to start any kind of fight. But it just seems to me that there is still a knee-jerk reaction against Christianity by many people in paganism, and I think this is a bad sign.
Awesome post, Darth Brooks.

~Elise~
December 2nd, 2008, 04:06 PM
I was raised Quaker, but I never really took religion seriously until Set came into my life. So, I have never actually been a Christian, and like Louisvillian it is sometimes difficult for me to understand the animosity that is held toward Christianity by quite a few pagans. For all this talk among pagans about honoring ancestors, what about those of us who have Christian or Jewish or Muslim ancestors? I'm willing to bet that most people on this board have ancestors who fell into at least one of those three groups. This is not a chalkboard, you can't just erase two thousand years' worth of anthropological history and say, "These religions don't matter anymore." Even though my oldest ancestors were pagans, I think it would be shameful and irreligious of me to dismiss the beliefs of my ancestors from the past 2,000 years as "unimportant" or "false" just because they were Christians. Yeah, it's great to celebrate my ancient pre-Christian ancestors - but what about my great great grandparents, who were Quakers, and who helped to free runaway slaves through the Underground Railroad? Those people did what they did because they believed in Jesus and they believed that Jesus would have wanted them to help free black people. Am I to believe they were deluded or just plain evil people, simply because they prayed to Jesus and not to a pagan deity? I think not.

I am not directing these comments at anyone in particular, and the last thing I want to do is to start any kind of fight. But it just seems to me that there is still a knee-jerk reaction against Christianity by many people in paganism, and I think this is a bad sign.


You know what has mystified me over the past week is the pagans posting in this particular forum sniping at christians for bible quoting, or for their beliefs, or other reason.

Ya have a problem with Christianity...well don't come in this forum then and you won't have any problems.
Everyone is welcome to their belief and deserves at least a modicum of respect.

I don't have a problem with Christianity, per se, but I don't come into here either, because it isn't MY thing. I've had to come in here twice now since Sunday to stop the disrespect.

I was a Christian when younger, several different flavors in fact, I don't dismiss those times because they've made me who I am today.

If it ain't your thing...that's cool. Don't expect everyone else to be into your thing, whatever that may be. But, don't come picking on the Christians in a Christian forum. Period. End of story.

Dumunzi
December 2nd, 2008, 04:07 PM
Well... I'd have said I was raised Christian but left the faith, became pagan, but none of the options seem to point to that. :/

But, not for me. Pass on that stuff.

Glowingsun
December 2nd, 2008, 07:09 PM
I was raised a free thinking, free spirited christian. Me and my mom would occassionally have some discussions and I could ask any question I thought of.
Once i went to a christion camp it went all down hill from there. No one could meditate because the counsillors thought it was a way to read peoples minds (pfft, what they don't know they shouldn't judge).

I got fed up after meeting my boyfriends highly religious parents.

All that caused me to really hate christians. But it's been about 7 years or so of studying and believing in pagan and wicca. my feelings towards christians has calmed down a bit.

MetropolisGott
December 3rd, 2008, 02:46 AM
I was raised Southern Baptist. I voted I was raised Ultrafundie Christian and am not now, even though I've been being pulled back towards Christianity as of late for at least a few reasons...

I was exposed to a lot of youth ministers trying to intellectualize Christianity, trying to scientifically "prove" the Bible. That started making me skeptical, and the intolerance of homosexuals and pretty much all other faiths (those were the main 2, at least) just pushed me over the edge. I lightly explored Kemeticism and Shamanism, then abandoned Kemeticism for the most part in favor of Shamanism. I then lost all hope and became an existentialist.

I struggled for about 2 years with depression and questions, and found myself having an interesting conversation with a Hindu friend of mine who had been recently reading into Religious Perrenialism, essentially saying that while faiths may differ in their practices, they all sought the same thing. This brought me around to wanting to discover a path. I've been exploring ever since, reading various scriptures from Hinduism, to Islam, to the Feri Path, to Buddhism, to Taoism, and lo and behold - to Christianity. When setting my hatred of christianity aside, I found that the teachings of Jesus contain many of the same ideas found in other major faiths - selflessness, humility, and non-violence.

I've finally realized something I wish many people would realize, not just Pagans (I've actually found more accepting friends of Christianity among my Pagan friends than my athiest friends, though that's not that big a surprise). The Church in its state today is so deeply embedded in politics and "selling" its faith that it's very nearly lost its soul. I'm still skeptical of any Church at this point, but does that undermine the value of the Bible as a religious text and source of wisdom? I personally don't think so.

Caitlin.ann
December 3rd, 2008, 01:12 PM
Well since I've never elaborated, I guess I'll take the time to do that today. :)

I was raised Christian in a non-denominational household though my parents both were influenced by their past branches of Christianity. My mother was raised Catholic and went to all girl schools until she got her post-secondary education. My father was raised in Assemblies of God churches and still adheres to that though he doesn't attend church. My mother switched from Catholicism to a more non-denominational when she married my father and I was raised within that. I attended Catholic mass a few times as a girl which I still vaguely remember but that was for my mom, of course, not me.

Of course my brother and I were taught the usual. The Bible is gods holy word and all other paths are a deception of the devil, that one must accept Christ or burn in hell forever. That the rapture (literally) would occur and I didn't want to be left behind. That the world was created by god that witchcraft was bad, and that to be saved one had to accept Christ verbally and through baptism, etc.

Throughout my life I was very devoted to the religion I was taught. I remember at one point in my younger years I was extremely interested in the Greek Gods and I remember sitting in my public library reading a children's book about them and I felt so dejected because to me they didn't exist. I think my exact thoughts were "too bad we know they don't exist these days and we know Jesus is god". When I was younger I went so far as to take notes in church with my bible and a notepad in front of me for later use and I wanted to become a preacher. Heh..I even went online to fight non-christians and tell them how stupid they were..or such was my mindset then. Throughout my childhood I accepted christ verbally, whenever I felt like a bad christian I'd lay at night by myself or with my father and we'd pray and ask for his forgiveness and for him to come into our hearts. The idea of the end times terrified me and I had this under lying feelings that I just "knew" I'd go to hell. That I was never worthy enough..man did that terrify me.

At 12 I was baptised in front of the entire congregation of our small country church. I was nervous and excited..a little..but It meant so much more to everyone else than it ever did to me. I remember getting dipped and coming out and helped out of the water then delivered to the whole congregation who congratulated me and gave me gifts. I felt nothing, empty, it was nothing to me. It was a sad facade, a gift for them more so than for me.

Eventually I became more questioning to the point where I would pick apart everything I was taught. By the time I met a dear friend of mine in tenth grade I was ready spiritually and mentally to branch out and do my own path searching. She introduced me to paganism and Mystic Wicks (sincerebliss is who she is here). We bonded over Paganism and she taught me until I was ready to find my own path and she found hers. At first fear held me back a bit, I resisted and fought with her a few times over how paganism would damn us and how we needed to change. But in the end I knew that I had been wrong, that this path was right for me and that I needed to find my own way in it. That Christianity didn't fit me anymore, that there was nothing to fear, that I had been indoctrinated. Slowly I became more independent, more confident, and further away from that path. Slowly I bought more pagan things getting my parents used to the idea of my departure from their religion. From a few books on witchcraft (the first I borrowed from Alicia) to having many of my own proudly displayed on my book case. There were fights and tears and many times I was condemned to hell and prayed for. Its slowly gotten better from them. Yesterday my father said "I'm not buying you any Wiccan books for Christmas" which is actually one of the kindest things he's said to me about religion. Of course I'm not Wiccan and there's no reason to explain that to him the difference right now. But they've slowly become more understanding and accepting. They realize I'm not doing anything evil, I'm the same person I have always been, just as loving, just not praying to the same god.

Anyways I guess this was more of a vent/blog than anything though I hope it helps people to understand me just a little bit better.

Anthony41671
December 3rd, 2008, 01:16 PM
My Mother married into a Catholic family when I was 6. I was baptized at 7 and did the whole First Communion and Altar boy thing for awhile.

I started to question it all around 13 and by the time I was 15, I was more or less Atheist...and well on my way to being very Bah humbug about Christianity.

It's only been the last few years that I've been exploring Paganism and am still walking slowly down the path.

AkashaLuna
December 23rd, 2008, 12:03 PM
I did not realize this was a christian forum when I posted and subscribed, or I would not have posted and subscribed. I thought this was a pagan site. I thought we were safe.

SwordsFlameSong
December 23rd, 2008, 01:07 PM
This is a spiritual sanctuary and we do not discriminate on the basis of religion. No path is allowed to evangalize here. At MW we do not care what path a person follows as long as they are respectful to the other members of this site.

In addition, it appears that this may well be a response to an admin mode. As was pointed out to you in a earlier admin mode path bashing is not acceptable especially when you are in an Abrahamic forum. This forum was created SPECIFICALLY for our Christian members and those who are interested in Christianity so THEY would have a safe place on this site. The people who partake in this forum have the right to do so without being condemned.

Either way, path basing and responding to an admin mode are actions that are not tolerated here.

As I was not aware of the earlier administrative mode this has been changed from 'information' to a an admin mode.



I did not realize this was a christian forum when I posted and subscribed, or I would not have posted and subscribed. I thought this was a pagan site. I thought we were safe.