Has anyone heard of this?

[Cindlady2]

This stone is being sold on ebay by 2 different people and I was hoping some one might know more about it!
:idea:
Suleiman

http://search.stores.ebay.com/FUTURE-OF-LIGHT_suleiman_W0QQfcdZ2QQfciZQ2d1QQfclZ3QQfromZR10QQfsnZFUTUREQ20OFQ20LIGHTQQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQftsZ2Q QsaselZ145813970QQsbrsrtZdQQsofpZ0
or
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&from=R10&satitle=Suleiman&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&bs=Search&fsop=1%26fsoo%3D1&coaction=compare&copagenum=1&coentrypage=search&sadis=200&fpos=53105&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&seller=1&sass=splendourmines

I did get a small (36mm) sphere but haven't really worked with it yet. Right now I don't feel anything specific, but I do feel something.

Hope someone can help!

Thanks!

[CzechWoods]

This stone is being sold on ebay by 2 different people and I was hoping some one might know more about it!
:idea:
Suleiman

http://search.stores.ebay.com/FUTURE-OF-LIGHT_suleiman_W0QQfcdZ2QQfciZQ2d1QQfclZ3QQfromZR10QQfsnZFUTUREQ20OFQ20LIGHTQQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQftsZ2Q QsaselZ145813970QQsbrsrtZdQQsofpZ0
or
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&from=R10&satitle=Suleiman&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&bs=Search&fsop=1%26fsoo%3D1&coaction=compare&copagenum=1&coentrypage=search&sadis=200&fpos=53105&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&seller=1&sass=splendourmines

I did get a small (36mm) sphere but haven't really worked with it yet. Right now I don't feel anything specific, but I do feel something.

Hope someone can help!

Thanks!


It is obviously natural Onyx (chalcedony family)

today, onyx from the chalcedony family is usually associated with a black or dark anthracite stone, and the Black and white laced onyx considered Sardonyx.

Sardonyx though, is defined as: Onyx with Sarder (a red-brown mineral in itself)

Onyx' definition throughout years has beeN: a black or a black and white laced chalcedony/agate
while the laces and colours OF COURSE meant natural and not dyed colours.

since the roman empire times, possibly since before craftmen knew to make agate into onyx; simply cooking the agate geodes in cugar; which turned the agate black, and there you had "onyx", or in fact dyed agate to look like onyx.

this old craftmanship got so usual, that throughout times, the dying of agate into onyx through cugar boiling became an acceptable method with no need of decleration; and 901% of the onyx jewelry on the market is technically not onyx but dyed agate.

but as dyed agate is expensive too (relatively) and the markets need for onyx is still high (with no exception throughout all times since roman empire up until today; but the recourses for natural onyx are rare) - a lot of "onyx" stones sold in fact are:
artifially dyed agate (in better cases)
so called "black stone", which can be any stone or stone poweder dyed and / or pressed together and dyed
or sometimes substituted with other black stones, like obsidian (black obsidian, rainbow obsidian and smokey obsidian) or even glass
marble, travertine and other aragonite minerals declared (trade name) onyx stone

but there is still some natural onyx on the market
and yes you can still find naturally black and white laces onyx.

and to fool customers completely, you give it some fanatsy name, and there is a "new " strone, which in fact is no new stone at all


ETA:

read both links texts about the stone.

the first one is the original text the second one is pasted and edited some stuff out.

they both claim it was neither agate nor onyx; yet the pictures show explicically that it IS onyx by aboves definition or if you will, sardonyx or black and white laced agate; some pictures even show the agate geode

the vendors texts claim what it is not, without saying what it is.

it is like selling fools gold and saying: it is not GOLD but was magically used to do this and that

the descriptions of the uses, are to be fined with sardonyx and onyx in many gemology books and scripts from the middle ages in europe as well, in alchemy books and others, which is another indication that it in fact IS laced black and white agate/onyx/sardonyx

the referals to sanskrit and tibetan lore does unfortunately not weaken the argument of the stone being still onyx/sardonyx/laced agate
since: take the labradorite and spectrolite. spectrolite found first in finland. called spectrolite. a similar stone found in labrador, called labradorite. later gemologists/geologes found out, these stones are the same variety just with two names

i suspect the same happening here too. and they used the stone they knew for what they knew about it. in europe at the same time (and worldwide probably) stones of the same appearance were found and used for certain puroses. some purposes were similar others were a specific use by a specified culture, yet the stone was still the same

[Cindlady2]

Thanks!
I too suspected it was in fact onyx, but I'm not that savoy about stones yet to say for sure. (but learning!)

Since you also sell stone items... do you think the $21.00 (which included shipping) was a fair deal? It's about 36mm

[CzechWoods]

was that a tumbled stone or a sphere ?

[Cindlady2]

Sphere

[CzechWoods]

so 21 usd for a 36mm diameter sphere of natural laced onyx (chalcedony family) including shipping is a fair deal

i would say