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Darkwater Stone
March 16th, 2006, 01:40 PM
Divination is a very popular practice, but what do Buddhist's and Hindu's think about this?
Do they practice divination?
Does their religion allow them to? If not, then why?
What are the main types of divination they use?
Thanks in advance for all your answers.

March 17th, 2006, 04:44 PM
I think Buddhist's practice it and i think it's accepted, here's a few site's on Buddhist divination (or Tibetan Buddhist to be precise) http://www.divinemo.com/, Tibet art of divination (http://www.saraswatibhawan.org/div_tib_artof_div.htm), http://www.tibet.com/Buddhism/divination.html, Tibetan divination (http://www.buddhistview.com/site/epage/7274_225.htm)

As for Hinduism and divination, i think they do it too, i think they use astrology, here's one site on it http://www.indastro.com/, http://vedic.indastro.com/learn-astrology/hinduism.php and Vedic astrology (http://www.sanatansociety.org/vedic_astrology_and_numerology/horoscopes_vedic_astrology.htm). This is all i could find on the internet about it, but i'll try and look for some more, but i think Buddhism and Hinduism would support divination, since, although i might be wrong, i've heard that Hinduism, Buddhism, Taoism, other Eastern religions, etc are, kind of, occult religions and do use occult practices.

But anyway, i'm sure there are others here who know more, but i hope i've helped :).

March 18th, 2006, 05:06 AM
Well its a little iffy subject really...I can only speak for a few traditions I do know a little about but it would vary. I know in Vajryana Buddhism, one way that it took hold in Tibet was to merge with the old Bon religion which was highly magical and ritualistic...and as a reflection of this the Buddhists of Tibet do practice to soem degree divinition. It is tolerated merely becasue of it's historical and cultural value. Strictly speaking though, textbook Buddhism does not support magic or even supernatuiral ideas such as divinition or what have you. Gautama Buddha was quoted as saying in the pali Canon that "Supernatural beliefs in magic are a form of egotism taking men's minds from the goal of Nirvana." Or soemthing along those lines. Folk buddhism though needs such things because as Human beings we'd all like to know what the future will bring, it helps to demystify and create comfort for us. I know in Tibet they use divintition practice called a Mho. In China though, this is probably the best example becasue you have fortune tellers and hand readers and tea readers and all sorts, and a lot of it goes hand and hand with Buddhism.

Hinduism is also a little sketchy, and it all depends on what tradition you are part of...omen reading and meditation are big forms. The danger though is that as divinition is a form of magic to soem degree, the folk traditions do not look kinly on witchcraft (atleast negative witchcraft) and may view divinition practices as being harmful to a village. Although when you get higher up into the higher forms of worship and religion 9and as religion is so intermingled in both culture and society) it becoems less and less used. Well i cant say that, astrology is huge in hinduism, and if you look at their astrology it's similar but highly specialized as opposed to the western astrological system. Although, if memory serves I believe it's in Southern India, there is an ashram or mandir where records of a group of Rishis (Sages) are kept. these records are written on banana leaves and supposeduly contain the life stories of future visitors. So you can go and give them information as if you are having an astrology reading doen and they go to search the records and they bring the recod out and tell you what it says...and these were supposed to have been written over 2000 years ago. There is also a legend that one day the entire record will turn black and they will be unreadable...in about 30 years if im not mistaken. Apart from that you'd have to take it culture by culture...as Buddhism and Hinduism span soo many different cultures and languages.



April 4th, 2006, 08:58 AM
Well, in Hinduism, astrology is very much common and is used by nearly all.

When a child is born, the time of birth and place is noted, and no matter where you are in the world, we usually send the details to our maharaj or guru in India and a "chatti"is created. This is your astrology forecast. Many Hindus will never marry if their chattis are not matched. It is a must for majority.

There are also palmistry and many others.

Well, obviously negative uses of witchcraft are frowned upon. Mostly looked as tantric practices and many fear them. Though, some are misinterpreted even though they do good work.

Hindus believe a lot in omens and signs. For example, in many hindu homes you will see a lime and 5 green chillies sewn together and hung. This is to protect from "ėvil eye or black magic", as is called. This is common practice and many dont even think of itas anything. Its just done. There are also various oher things that they do.

Tobias, you are right about the leaves. It is known as Nadi astrology. Its through the leaf and each person has aunique leaf. Your thumbprint is taken and they then bring a couple of leafs out and They ask you a lot of questions and then find a leaf that matches you and from that they can tell your whole future. When i was in india once, the North part though, I was told of one suc Tamil Guru, I went to see him, But, without meaning any disrespect, it didnt really fall true for me. But the true ones are known to be in the South more.


April 4th, 2006, 05:45 PM
Hmm thats interesting, Nadi tradition...I always knew they were there I just didnt know the name, and unfortuantly Banana Leaf and 'astrology' doesnt procude much in Google. So i take it you come from a Brown family :), where abouts are you from?

Namaste :)


p.s. Post 900 for Galadraal woohooo

April 5th, 2006, 04:38 AM
:p Brown family?

I am Indian, but not South Indian!!!! A different type which is quite tiny and not many people understand so I just say am Indian. But am from Africa....born and brought up!

Yeah,Nadi astrology is actually very interesting! I did some reading on it before I had gone to see that guy, but was very disappointed after the session.

Cheers, :T


April 5th, 2006, 05:39 PM
Haha, ok if you dont care to indulge thats all good. :D

Hmm I wouldnt even know what to expect, Im from Toronto Canada and we have a sizeable south asian and west Indian population but there isnt really a lot o astrology going on, well openly anyways. I wouldnt even know what to expect.