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Isis
January 14th, 2002, 12:18 AM
MM all!
If I were still Xian I would call this the 8th deadly sin. I've been betrayed and I'm less than pleased about it. This betrayal occured over the new year, new year's eve in fact......at the time I was so angry that I could literally barely see straigt.
The work that I was doing, volunteer work, that I put my blood, sweat and tears into, was gently cast aside! Why? Because the girl that I was working with decided that she didnt think my heart and head were in the right place. Now of course prior to this, she'd told me what a fabulous job I'd been doing. She lied to the other girls on the committee, which got me thrown off. Ridiculous!
The thing that bothers me the most is a)this girl is pagan-though she tries to hide it from one of the other women on the committee, who is a devout Xian. (b) She's confided certain things to me that make me wonder about her devotion to the cause.
Let me tell you, I was so ready to skip the mundane and go straight to the magickal, and curse her so feircely that I literally had to mentally restrain myself from thinking about the situation.
Anyway, please tell me what you guys think of betrayal. I'd love to hear your thoughts.
Isis
flar7
January 14th, 2002, 01:57 AM
a very difficult topic and concept. What constitutes betrayal?
Lets look at it as if there is only one side to it(never true).
For betrayal to really hurt, you needed to be close to that person
who betrayed you. The closer you were the more it hurts.
Different levels of betrayal. A friend could inadvertantly betray
you(we dont care why for this discussion) anyway that betrayal
is or should be forgiveable, we recognize they acted without
knowledge.
But true betrayal involves someone you really care about and
trust with your deepest secrets, dreams, desires and all things
that make you who you are. A lifemate, or Very Best Friend. Then
that person uses or acts against the inside information they
possess about you. They either dont care how you will feel or
think that you will just "get over it".... whew.. rambled.
I was betrayed by my wife a few times before the divorce, hence
the divorce, so this is a sore subject with me. My statements in
no way reflect on your situation vs this person and such, but only
the act of betrayal itself.
mato
January 14th, 2002, 03:15 AM
people suck and especially false friends suck... I learned a long time ago not to lend my trust out to just any one (including family) cause nine out of ten times they will let you down, and crush what fledgeling hope for humanity you might have once seen in them... Of course (oops did a little fraudian thing there but hey I caught it so it mustnt have been that subconscious... lol) when you find that one that you think is the one in ten it is a great day... Then when they turn out to be just like the others and you have to alter your numbers to one in twenty... a sad day indeed... so hey simple solution become bitter and cinical never trust any one with any thing expect the worst of poeple all the time and their is no way you can be betrayed cause there will be nothing to betray. Of course the only being you can truely trust is yourself...
i know i cant spell tonight.
flar7
January 14th, 2002, 10:11 AM
you betray yourself.
mato
January 14th, 2002, 11:34 AM
well I was trying to be an optimistic pesimist but hey go and ruin all my hard work...
Starlight
January 14th, 2002, 12:28 PM
I just got rid of a false friend myself and let me tell you. NOT FUN what so ever!! I was betrayed horribly on a topic that I felt was personal.:( I don't have any real advice cause this person threw himself out of my life and is now trying to get back in! So the best thing I can say is just show them that you don't need them or their opinions and continue on with your life and make the best of it. Maybe you could try and straighten out the lies she told the commitee. Set the other girls straight and even if they don't let you back on at least they know the truth of the situation............and maybe if your really into getting "revenge" on this girl she'll get throw off too for lying! *shrug* I dunno.
Myst
January 14th, 2002, 12:32 PM
I know your pain, Isis.
It's one reason why I prefer computers over most people. You don't have to worry about your pc whispering across your network what you said about the printer.
flar7
January 14th, 2002, 02:31 PM
myst. That happens a lot with my pc. The printers an HP and the
PC is a Dell dude. Lets not even go into how untrustworthy the
joystick is...
sorry. Back to Topic. :)
Isis
January 14th, 2002, 08:08 PM
I appreciate all the replies that I've recieved, and the personal messages from friends.
I guess coming from another pagan it hurts worse than coming from a Xian. Yanno if I had told them that I was a Xian virgin everything would be just fine!
Ah well the goddess has spoken, and for whatever reason that's not where I belong. I'm not angry about not being part of it, I'm angry cause she lied/
Well, that's enough of that........must practice the credo......dare, know, will to be silent!
MP,
Isis
Xander67
January 15th, 2002, 01:36 AM
I do alot of work in the community,
alot of it goes unrewarded, and most of it, un noticed..
I am use to it, I expect it. I know that I am not to seek "worldly fame or fortune" however, once and a while I get a big "atta boy"
Isis, In your case, this is very hard... In some way perhaps your integrity is being tested...
I would be tempted to write a formal letter
but I have seen the wonderful things that happen to people like your "friend" for now, let her bask
but remember, what comes around goes around....
and your blood sweat and toils were not in vain!!!
all kindness is repayed....you get what you put into life!
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