Jesus Christ the Lord and Saviour

[tubulure]

I was an atheist. Sometime back someone told me this and there was a discussion on the matter. What is your opinion on this. What answer do you give

[Infinite Grey]

I was an atheist. Sometime back someone told me this and there was a discussion on the matter. What is your opinion on this. What answer do you give

Answer to what? Jesus Christ is the lord and savior in the Christian religion... what is there to discuss?

[Little Billy]

I was an atheist. Sometime back someone told me this and there was a discussion on the matter. What is your opinion on this. What answer do you give


What answer do I give to what?

And which Jesus?

[Phoenix Blue]

He's not my "lord and savior," so he can't very well be the "lord and savior," now can he?

[dragoncrone]

Jesus is Lord and Saviour, and Vishnu is Lord and Destroyer.

[Little Billy]

Jesus is Lord and Saviour, and Vishnu is Lord and Destroyer.

God might have parted the Red Sea, but "Bob" cut the crap.

[IvyWitch]

Actually, his pasta-ness the Flying Spaghetti Monster is the Lord and Savior. And those who deny him will be maimed by pirates, for they are his chosen pasta people.

:cheers:

[Trithemius]

Actually, his pasta-ness the Flying Spaghetti Monster is the Lord and Savior. And those who deny him will be maimed by pirates, for they are his chosen pasta people.

:cheers:

http://www.venganza.org/images/th_FSM3d.jpg

:fpraise: :fpraise: :fpraise: :fpraise: :fpraise: :fpraise: :fpraise: :fpraise:

[Cassie]

Christians believe that Jesus can save people from sin, that is why they call him saviour.
I'm not Christian and I don't believe in the concept of sin, so Jesus can't be my saviour in that sense.
I do believe he was a wise and inspirational charector though.

[Little Billy]

Christians believe that Jesus can save people from sin, that is why they call him saviour.
I'm not Christian and I don't believe in the concept of sin, so Jesus can't be my saviour in that sense.
I do believe he was a wise and inspirational charector though.

I believe in sin.

I just don't think it's necessarily a bad thing.

[Theres]

last time i spoke with Jesus he said "I ain't comin', save yourself!"

[LadyCelt]

Do you mean why you should believe he's your Lord and saviour or how to tell people you don't have him as yours who aer Christian? I'm a bit lost.

[Toby Stimpson]

I think this is meant to be a hit and run, a completly irrelevant and frivelous thread to confuse and annoy...hmmm, I for one am not even in a caring mood to speculate as to Tubulure's meaning in all of this.

[Ninjakitten]

I think that he is the Lord and Saviour of all of mankind, but in the sense of him having a true and actual authority given to him by Godde (God and Goddess in my beliefs) to accomplish a mission, and that mission being to allow for our imperfect selves (imperfection we willingly embrace) to be justified before a perfect Diety (rather than just "letting us in" or He/She couldn't be considered as having a sense of justice) since we can't do that by our own power. Jesus also couldn't do that of his own power, and I don't consider him to have literally been God incarnate, but when people read or think that he was literally both God and man, that it is the authority the Divine gave to him that effectively made him God. If it was literal... let's just say I'd run from a schizophrenic god that talks to himself and questions his own will.

Oh, and I also don't think our puny brains have to comprehend the whole salvation thing and "accept it" with magic words about Jesus being Lord and Saviour that suddenly get us to Heaven. I believe it was a done deal, and that you have to work on being a bad person to not get the effects of the sacrifice of the Messiah. Our spirits know far more than our brains ever will about the spiritual world.

[DarkDancer]

I don't believe in Him at all (except maybe as a composite), but I won't denigrate anyone for believeing in Him.

[Little Billy]

I think this is meant to be a hit and run, a completly irrelevant and frivelous thread to confuse and annoy...

This is the correct answer.

LB,
Usually suspects single word starting posts as being nothing more than trolls.

[Theres]

What answer do you give

that there are many gods who fill this description of 'savior'... to the Greeks (among others) Poseidon Soter, to the Chaldeans Hekate Soteira, etc, etc.

so the Jews have one too. big deal.

[Toriach]

I was an atheist. Sometime back someone told me this and there was a discussion on the matter. What is your opinion on this. What answer do you give
I believe in neither the reality nor the divinity of Jesus Christ. I believe that one requires "saving" only if one believes they require it. I believe that some of the ideas attributed to Jesus are re-dressings of ideas that while perhaps no universal are found in a large number of belief systems. And beyond all that I believe that if you believe and it works for you then my unbelief is irrelevant.

Peace
And
Long
Life

Toriach