Can You Tell If You've Been Binded?

[arianrhods_daughter]

Can you tell if you have been binded, or at least attempted against? What do you do to guard/block the person attempting to bind you?

I have my suspicions, but I find it hard to tell for sure or not without actually asking the person, and seeing we aren't on speaking terms, they'd probably be lying to me anyway if they did respond, just wondering about others experiences, I just feel a bit stiffled and not myself of late..

[Infinite Grey]

Never been Binded... never will

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[Vincent Verthaine]

The only time I allow myself to be "Binded" (Goddess I hate that word,whats wrong with Bound?) is during kinky sex involving ropes,chains and handcuffs.
Other then that,HELL NO!!

I have too much of an ego and too great a will to allow anyone to "bind" me,especially against my will.

I've had people try to do that crap to me,with very disasterous results on their part.
Bindings create a link,and very few people know how to deal with the type and amount of "chaos" I work with on a normal basis.
It's never a good idea to try to "bind" an Erisian.
Imposition of Order=Escalation of Chaos.

One of the best methods I found to combat "bindings" is a nice healthy dose of SKEPTICISM.
I've always believed that bindings are only possible if you allow them to happen,or just really weak willed.
It's amazing how powerful a simple "NO" can be.

If you know that someone is trying to bind you(i.e.they told you they are),laugh in their face.
Tell everyone you know about it and have them laugh at in that persons face.
Tell them that person he/she is a self over rated windbag(it has been my experience in that most people who claim to be able to bind,are self over rated windbags).

[Fire's Shadow]

Anyone ever notice those who bind people at the drop of a dime? You might say something they disagree with and they'll be like "OMFGZ! U are soooo getting 0wned!" "I'm gonna bind u for disagreeing wif me! >:P"

I doubt that they can correctly do this without serious reprecussions. Not to mention the fact that forcefully imposing your will on others puts you at a disadvantage. Also, it is even possible to bind someone unless you are truly justified? Plus, as Vince points out, you have to be pretty weak at will to let someone do that to you. I have my doubts.

[MysticWitch]

I have had some people do some not so nice things to me magically, however they are too stupid to understand magic from within. The goddess protects me.

[arianrhods_daughter]

Its just in the last few days since my fight with someone that Ive felt like someone is trying to, sort of like, sit too close to me for comfort, like if a big brother or sister pretty much sits right on top of you almost and starts poking you to annoy you, or as I explained to Sage, that someones banging on the front door, even though you're in the house its still annoying.

I don't know if its my paranoia but my friend Rachel has a psycho overprotective big sister who practices witchcraft and although I remain sceptical of a lot of people she has actually done a lot of research and practice, but seems to be missing a "ethic" or "moral" bone in her body. And has threatened to curse, bind and pretty much kill anyone that hurt her sister even though her sister was at fault.

Like I said its probably paranoia as I rarely ever give anyone enough credit to perform, well, anything really, but her mental wiring uneases me, and although its more than likely coincidence people she has vendetta's against seem to have very eerie levels of badluck happen to them, although that hasnt happened to me i just feel really uncomfortable and "smothered" at the moment..

I don't know if I explained that too well, but it is hard to excplain properly lol. It's probably more from the fact that she as a person does unease me and my concern for my physical well being and that of my home, car and pets, but I wouldn't be suprised if shes trying something more and my unease is letting it get to me more than it should..

[Jenne]

I think I was pretty paranoid at the time, but yes, I've had suspicions of bindings having been done on me before. *shrug* Maybe because I've come close to doing them on other people.

Mostly, I just protect myself from anything they might do to me. I've made some pretty dicky enemies with some people. *shudders*

[Teresa]

It may be worth your while to read the Circle of Teaching Class threads on Magical Self Defense. I do know that a long time ago someone had tried to mess with me and it caused me much grief and took me meeting the right person to get it straightened out and I at the time thought that if you did not believe in the stuff it couldnt hurt you. Well many years later I now know that it can hurt you whether you believe in it or not, if the person trying has any skills in such matters.There are things you can do to protect yourself and You can even send back anything that has been sent your way. I hope you take the time to read those threads as I suspect you will find some info that You can use to protect yourself.

[Amythyst]

I don't think I have ever been binded magically by another witch. But mundane people can bind you unintentionally-- with their rigid, unyielding minds, their negativity, their disapproval, their dislike, their manipulative actions, etc.

I have quite a problem with my husband's family and I continually use magic to shield and protect myself (and him) from them. Their joined negative emotions makes them even stronger.

Did you try a Witch's Bottle for protection?

If you know whose doing what to you, did you try a reversal spell?

Do you generally use protective herbs/amulets around your home to protect your space?

Have you cast a circle of protection immediately around yourself when you feel these bad vibes?

Do you keep a bowl of salt nearby, maybe on your nightstand?

Have you tried burning oregano and fumigating a picture of the offensive people/person in it to keep them away? And then incense all doorways to your home with it?

Have you tried mirrors to reflect their negative energy-- buried at the four corners of your property, or placed at the four corners of your house/apartment?

I hope you find something that helps. It is not a nice feeling to have someone after you in a negative way-- either magically or mundanely.

[arianrhods_daughter]

I don't think I have ever been bound magically by another witch. But mundane people can bind you unintentionally-- with there rigid, unyielding minds, their negativity, their disapproval, their dislike, their manipulative actions, etc.

I have quite a problem with my husband's family and I continually use magic to shield and protect myself (and him) from them. Their joined negative emotions makes them even stronger.

1. Did you try a Witch's Bottle for protection?

2. If you know whose doing what to you, did you try a reversal spell?

3. Do you generally use protective herbs/amulets around your home to protect your space?

4. Have you cast a circle of protection immediately around yourself when you feel these bad vibes?

5. Do you keep a bowl of salt nearby, maybe on your nightstand?

6. Have you tried burning oregano and fumigating a picture of the offensive people/person in it to keep them away? And then incense all doorways to your home with it?

7. Have you tried mirrors to reflect their negative energy-- buried at the four corners of your property, or placed at the four corners of your house/apartment?

I hope you find something that helps. It is not a nice feeling to have someone after you in a negative way-- either magically or mundanely.

I'll answer these bit by bit Ive substituted numbers next to your questions to make it clear what Im refering too :lol:

1. No I haven't, I have in the past and haven't found it to help all that well, mostly my work is visual rather than spell workings, usually my only ritual work is in honor of deity (mostly because Im too lazy to do more :lol: )

2. I've not done anything yet execpt my nightly visualisation cleansing and my shower cleansing I have attempted visualisations to retrieve "soul pieces" and to hack away at any links that have been made to me that's about it

3. I have crystals on my altar and various dried herbs I have traditional curse breaking herbs that I have in a satchet, I've been contemplating putting it under my pillow and carrying it in my purse but was hoping it wouldn't need to come to this

4. I do sheilding visualisations when I start to feel uncomfortable which leads to the "someone knocking at the door" sensation, but Ive not actively cast circle or done any ritual works mostly because I dont want to open myself up either incase

5.I have one on my altar, which is in my ritual room next to me if I was to put it there my animals would get to it, Ive considered putting some in along with some onyx of my dried herbs as well and maybe dress a candle to burn for a time by my nightstand before my partner and creatures come to bed

6. I only have Sandlewood incense but unfortunately my partner seems to be allergic to this brand I bought so Ive a bunch of incense sticks I currently can't use while he's around but in the mornings after he's left for work I'd be able to

7. No I have been looking for a relatively cheap set I have done visualisations while holding my one and only mirror (was my great great grandmothers) infront of me or in my sheilding visualising its surface to be mirror like to "bounce back" any ill will being put towards me

I have done small things, but nothing overly active as I was in denial it could be happening because I am sceptical of such things and also because I was hoping it wouldn't come to this, but I suppose its time to flex my magical muscles and get to work *sigh*

[arianrhods_daughter]

It may be worth your while to read the Circle of Teaching Class threads on Magical Self Defense. I do know that a long time ago someone had tried to mess with me and it caused me much grief and took me meeting the right person to get it straightened out and I at the time thought that if you did not believe in the stuff it couldnt hurt you. Well many years later I now know that it can hurt you whether you believe in it or not, if the person trying has any skills in such matters.There are things you can do to protect yourself and You can even send back anything that has been sent your way. I hope you take the time to read those threads as I suspect you will find some info that You can use to protect yourself.

Thank you for the suggestion I'll be sure to go have a read, while Ive done mostly sheilding it seems to be like that pesky fly that wont go away sort of thing, I need to stop shooing it away and get out the spray :lol: if that make sense

[arianrhods_daughter]

Anyone ever notice those who bind people at the drop of a dime? You might say something they disagree with and they'll be like "OMFGZ! U are soooo getting 0wned!" "I'm gonna bind u for disagreeing wif me! >:P"

I doubt that they can correctly do this without serious reprecussions. Not to mention the fact that forcefully imposing your will on others puts you at a disadvantage. Also, it is even possible to bind someone unless you are truly justified? Plus, as Vince points out, you have to be pretty weak at will to let someone do that to you. I have my doubts.

I agree, I've been one of the most sceptical people around when it comes to this sort of thing but theres just something about this girl that is really unnerving me, I'm pretty sure its just the fact that shes a psycho ***** that has led me to believe shes even capable of such a thing, but the people she sets out against both magically and physically seem to have a lot of bad luck surrounding her deciding to begrudge them and although nothing has happened to me I can't help but feel some bad vibes trying to lurk about either man made by my paranoia of her psychoticness (is that even a word?) or she is actually trying something and its having a frustrating affect

You can call me weak willed, pathetic, whatever you like, I don't care what you think of me mentally, I'm just concerned for my well being and if by being concerned and paranoid of a psycho Im weak willed then yes Im weak

[Fire's Shadow]

You can call me weak willed, pathetic, whatever you like, I don't care what you think of me mentally, I'm just concerned for my well being and if by being concerned and paranoid of a psycho Im weak willed then yes Im weak

No, no. You misunderstand. :hugz: That wasn't a stab at you. It was my opinion about bindings in general, not a judgement of your character.

[arianrhods_daughter]

:hugz: That's ok then :P lol

[CzechWoods]

my personal experience.

magical assaults happen
1. more often than you think
2. less often than you believe

a good way to find out is divination

[arianrhods_daughter]

Any particular form and process you personally recommend?

[CzechWoods]

i personally prefer tarot cards.
pendulums /tensors can be hard to use for detachement difficulties. as well as bindings sometimes will block you.

if you cant be sure you are reading your won tarots or runes properly go to a fellow reader

[CzechWoods]

plus: use rune sets or tarot cards that are efficiant for this kind of reading. usually the more down to earth the better. go for classics not the fancy or fantasy ones

[arianrhods_daughter]

My runes are very plain, picked them up for $10 at a stall lol, so far everything seems calm, I was probably imagining it, but will see what happens next hmm thank you for your advice :hugz: its a very good idea indeed

[arianrhods_daughter]

Update: Got an interesting email from her sister saying shes well at work about destroying me, wish they didn't know where I lived I fear for my car and animals mostly *sigh* why are people such *BEEPS* some times?

[CzechWoods]

pm sent

[arianrhods_daughter]

Thank you I do apologise I've not been online I've been away visiting a sick relative (they are fine just been helping out about the home) and have been running around trying to organise a million things for everyone :)

[Ninjakitten]

Since I submit both the success of my spells as well as my protection to a higher and wiser power (God and Goddess), I can only be bound by the will of BOTH the binder and the Diety (I consider God and Goddess to be anthropromorphized aspects of the One). As such, I can only be bound if it is to prevent me from doing something that would sabotage the will of the Divine in my life.

Example: My car was stolen in December. I thought my protection was pretty sucky at that point, until my binding of the thieves (using sigils, albeit technically using them "incorrectly" but in my own way) caused them to be caught (they also had stolen many other cars in the area, including from dealers lots), and the presentation of a much better car into my life (only because my original car was stolen and my insurance settlement gave me the new one). At that point, I realized that the protection I had put on my, at the time, recently broken car (radiator had gone out) went out the door at the hands of someone who didn't do any magic whatsoever, but it was to present something better into my life, and to bring justice to someone that was causing a lot of harm to others.

In a way, you could say the Diety had bound me temporarily since noone else did, thereby blocking a binding I put on those who would potentially steal from me, so that a greater good could be accomplished that I couldn't percieve, but Diety could.

[Feroxyhite]

I've only had a binding done to me properly once (and that I was able to undo) but for the most part, magical acts against me are felt. If you're unsure, you can always use some sort of divinatory method (such as pendling) unless the binding interfered with that too, which can easily be checked. If that occurs, I'd just try and get yourself unbound quickly.

If you've been bound you need to perform some variety of uncrossing/unbinding (which dependent on the strength of the binding may or may not be easy) These can range from cleansing baths, deity intervention, smudging, etc.

To stop it from happening usually as far as I know, a shield/ward on oneself is the only thing that'll really stop it, so in this case you're better off learning some good methods of unbinding.

[Ivy Artemisia]

I agree with the person who advised you to work on your shields. Protect your home and animals magickally the best you can. Do you have any friends who might lend their energy to a protection working? Or is there a local coven or group who might be willing to help you out?

[Rowan Darkmoon]

When people are trying to do things against me, I can feel it as a tickle at my forehead or a sledgehammer blow depending on how hard they are trying. That's how I know. If you feel things in this way, and that type of stuff has been going on, it's a good indication that someone is trying to do something against you.

I agree with what others have said, and think that the best offense is a good defense. Work on increasing your magical shields, cleanse your house, put bundles of herbs with protective properties above your doorways and windows, etc...

I have a spell that I've used with some success with bindings, so if you'd like it PM me. :) My best advice would be to protect yourself the best you can, and then stop worrying about it. Curses and hexes play a lot on a person's fear of things (death, illness, binding, etc...). Don't be afraid! :hugz:

[Meadhbh]

It really depends on the type of binding that was done as well as how well you pick up things like that. There are types of binding that you can say for sure that you've been bound. Then there are other ways were can be nearly impossible to tell for sure. The good thing is that once your sure you've been bound you can take steps to break it.

[Garm]

If I can tell if I am being binded the bind is not working

[Socal]

I don't know about being binded, but I've been BEWITCHED about half an hour ago when I came upon this forum while searching for something on the Net. I got bewitched by one of the avatars here, and it's probably not even her picture.

Please don't laugh, I'm normally very rational person. I've got no idea what happened, I've seen plenty of pretty faces before and they didn't impress me much. This one caused me to sign up here which I normally would have no intention of doing, since I don't consider myself a pagan, just agnostic. There must be some magic in it.

I've also been using some chants lately, even though I haven't done that in years. Life's weird sometimes.

[fangedeshana]

I don't know about being binded, but I've been BEWITCHED about half an hour ago when I came upon this forum while searching for something on the Net. I got bewitched by one of the avatars here, and it's probably not even her picture.

Please don't laugh, I'm normally very rational person. I've got no idea what happened, I've seen plenty of pretty faces before and they didn't impress me much. This one caused me to sign up here which I normally would have no intention of doing, since I don't consider myself a pagan, just agnostic. There must be some magic in it.

I've also been using some chants lately, even though I haven't done that in years. Life's weird sometimes.

Wow. That must have been some picture!

[HeavensHope]

Wow. That must have been some picture!

lol...no kidding.

[Shanti]

Outloud thought running wild:

Ok I 'aint' :) the grammer police but since the word 'binded' is being used several times here, question...
Is binded a word used in these type of circumstances?

'Cause on the level of grammer, the word would be 'bound'!
Its just so wierd sounding..binded.

Ok. I am done saying binded over and over to myself...it just sounds to strange! That just cant be right.

[CzechWoods]

Outloud thought running wild:

Ok I 'aint' :) the grammer police but since the word 'binded' is being used several times here, question...
Is binded a word used in these type of circumstances?

'Cause on the level of grammer, the word would be 'bound'!
Its just so wierd sounding..binded.

Ok. I am done saying binded over and over to myself...it just sounds to strange! That just cant be right.

ok i am a foreigner, so what do i know, but i understand the term : binded in the same tradition as people would write magic as magick, just as to distinguish it from the ordinary binding word,

like binding someone with a roid in mundain cicumstance:
to bind, binded, have binded
binding in magic/kal terms:
to bind, binded, have binded

another similarity i see in the word clean
clean, cleaned, have cleansed

cleaining in magic/kal circumsteance:
to cleanse, cleansed, have cleansed

but i may be wrong too

[morningstar2651]

It's never a good idea to try to "bind" an Erisian.
Would that make them stochastic?

:nyah:

[BlueEyedWolf]

:awilly:

[MagickalHack]

The only time I allow myself to be "Binded" (Goddess I hate that word,whats wrong with Bound?) is during kinky sex involving ropes,chains and handcuffs.
Other then that,HELL NO!!

I have too much of an ego and too great a will to allow anyone to "bind" me,especially against my will.

I've had people try to do that crap to me,with very disasterous results on their part.
Bindings create a link,and very few people know how to deal with the type and amount of "chaos" I work with on a normal basis.
It's never a good idea to try to "bind" an Erisian.
Imposition of Order=Escalation of Chaos.

One of the best methods I found to combat "bindings" is a nice healthy dose of SKEPTICISM.
I've always believed that bindings are only possible if you allow them to happen,or just really weak willed.
It's amazing how powerful a simple "NO" can be.

If you know that someone is trying to bind you(i.e.they told you they are),laugh in their face.
Tell everyone you know about it and have them laugh at in that persons face.
Tell them that person he/she is a self over rated windbag(it has been my experience in that most people who claim to be able to bind,are self over rated windbags).


Quoted For Truth.

[ShadowStalker]

It depends. Can you know? Absolutely. If you are good with energy work and self-aware - you'll absolutely know if you have been bound, or if a binding has been attempted on you.

[RunningRiot]

Spikey shields and big, flourishing wings keep bindings at bay for me.

[LadyCelt]

I've had a feeling once soemeone was doing something to me, but not binding. But, maybe it was similar since i didn't see the person i think they may have wanted me away from (mainly from possibly being able to tell I didn't like his motives etc.) But, I don't do magic and wasn't into finding ways to find out or trace things. I was laying down once, after having been sick fo ra ffew days, and their name came to me. But, i'm not sure if that means its them either.

[Amythyst]

I would think that there would be clues if you were knowledgable about witchcraft.

I personally protect my property and my family from such negative sorcery (and negative thought forms and intentions) by burying mirrors, facing outward, at the four compass points along the perimeter of my property. I threw a handful of fennel (it repels negativity) into the hole with a splash of four thieves vinegar (hoodoo tradition) just for good measure.

There is also a spell to break another witch's spell:


You will need:

a length of silver cord and a scissors or your bolline

Tie one knot in each end of the cord. Cast with intent. Visualize one knot as you and the other knot as the Witch who cast the spell. Cut the cord in the center, breaking her spell...




Say:

"From you to me, this spell I break.

This was not right for you to make.

Its path I will abruptly end,

and back to you the spell I send."