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Dead Love
April 24th, 2006, 09:44 PM
I’ve heard about Soul trading and I’ve been trying to read on it to help a friend. No matter how many books and such I read I can never find out how this works. So if anyone here can help, please do. How do you soul trade? I’ll make en example of what I mean with unit a and unit b standing as peoples souls.


[Unit B]
[Unit C]

[Unit A] Is in another country and is the opposite sex as unit B

[Unit B] Is in another country from unit A also a different sex.

[Unit A] Wakes up and they are unit B, they speak their native language or so they don’t know what anyone around them are saying.

[Unit B] Wakes up and they are unit A, they speak their native language or and knows the unit a’s language already.

[Unit C] Is unit B’s friend and askes him about himself, but they are giving information about unit A. So Unit C decided to go find Unit A he finds him and he is in unit A’s body.

My question is how could they have traded souls in the first place and is it called soul trading? Or any information would be an gods give to me.

[U]*** I'm sorry if this is totally confusing to anyone***

arianrhods_daughter
April 25th, 2006, 08:21 AM
It made sense to me but I don't know exactly what you are asking for...are you asking for how to make this change occur or that the chance has occured and want it reversed?

Either way I don't know how you would go about it the souls would need to leave the body and switch which suggests maybe a dying to "free" the soul, and then somehow making them transfer to a different body and then assisting in reanimating dead persons. Personally I don't think its a good idea to kill people and give it a go though lol, so please DON'T. Ritual wise can give it a shot but unless some deity is bored I doubt you'll get anywhere

~Elise~
April 25th, 2006, 08:32 AM
Turn off the TV and get outside...

JMO, however.

Elise

Lunacie
April 25th, 2006, 11:27 AM
I've heard of Soul Transfer, maybe that is what happened to your friend?

http://www.namaste-wi.com/walk-in.htm


Walk-ins are souls who incarnate directly into a mature physical body with the full agreement of the soul that was born into the body. In many cases the original soul has completed its initial mission, and, therefore, agrees to leave and make its body available to another soul, rather than go through physical death. In more recent times, many souls are deciding not to move through the dimensional shift that Earth is undergoing, and they are consequently leaving the human realm, making their bodies available for "Walk-in" souls.

Meadhbh
April 25th, 2006, 02:13 PM
Or their soul could be lost. A way to lose ones soul is to give it to someone. When two people are in love, or when they are in a family, it is sometimes occurs that they will give portions of their soul to their loved one. A mother may give some to their child because they wish to protect him or her. This type of soul exchange may seem acceptable because of a person's desire to share themselves with another, it is not generally a good idea however. An individual can't use another person's soul, because simply: it is not their soul. The person must then deal with this unusable energy in addition to their own problems. In addition, the person has given a piece of their soul away and they have disempowered themselves. The giver's journey is made more difficult because they are not fully present to do the living of their life. It is a lose lose situation.

Dead Love
April 25th, 2006, 07:07 PM
It made sense to me but I don't know exactly what you are asking for...are you asking for how to make this change occur or that the chance has occured and want it reversed?

Either way I don't know how you would go about it the souls would need to leave the body and switch which suggests maybe a dying to "free" the soul, and then somehow making them transfer to a different body and then assisting in reanimating dead persons. Personally I don't think its a good idea to kill people and give it a go though lol, so please DON'T. Ritual wise can give it a shot but unless some deity is bored I doubt you'll get anywhere
Don't worry I'm not, and I believe I found someone to help. It seems it is more on the lines of voodou then this type of doing. I need the guy to trade bodys with someone else to make him mainly a guy again...

AussiePagan
April 27th, 2006, 02:18 AM
It sounds fun. Good luck trying to get it to work.

Lunacie
April 27th, 2006, 09:31 AM
Don't worry I'm not, and I believe I found someone to help. It seems it is more on the lines of voodou then this type of doing. I need the guy to trade bodys with someone else to make him mainly a guy again...

Ummm... does this other guy have any choice about trading bodies?

mtpathy
April 27th, 2006, 04:24 PM
sounds like a freaky-friday episode..,i dont believe what your talking
about is possible,this sounds like its in the same line of thought as
people who believe when they astrel project that there actually leaving
there bodies.
before you ask things like this,you should probably learn to define what
makes up a soul,when you figure out what a soul or self actually are you
might not even want it back.

cartweel
April 27th, 2006, 06:42 PM
I'm curious. What do you mean by:


I need the guy to trade bodys with someone else to make him mainly a guy again...

He is somehow not 'mainly' a guy? I'm probably reading too much into this, but has someone come out that you didn't want to come out?

Mouse
April 27th, 2006, 08:18 PM
I'm on the "nothing is impossible" boat, but I will say this: If what you are asking is possible, any Witch worth their circle salt still wouldn't tell you how. Find the tradition this comes from, and apprentice yourself to a mentor.

Djiril
April 27th, 2006, 08:40 PM
I'm curious. What do you mean by:



He is somehow not 'mainly' a guy? I'm probably reading too much into this, but has someone come out that you didn't want to come out?
I'm curious too. :huh:

semi
April 27th, 2006, 11:53 PM
Don't worry I'm not, and I believe I found someone to help. It seems it is more on the lines of voodou then this type of doing. I need the guy to trade bodys with someone else to make him mainly a guy again...


How does Voodoo enter into this in any way?

mtpathy
April 28th, 2006, 01:08 AM
you beat me to the question semicivilizedman..

Teresa
April 28th, 2006, 01:17 AM
You beat me to it as well although I do know there was a movie about this subject and it had the Voodoo or Hoodoo theme throughout it.( different reviews used each of those names) The movie was fiction though. If I recall right the movie's name was " The Skeleton Key" ?

semi
April 28th, 2006, 01:27 AM
I didn't see that movie. But I thought that movie was more about Hoodoo than Voodoo? I have no idea, really. Like I said, didn't see it.

Teresa
April 28th, 2006, 11:06 AM
I never bothered to see the movie myself either, I just read reviews about it. If I recall correctly both words were used to describe this. I am actually not sure which they try to show here .(or if they use the religion and the magic)( We both know there are differances between Voodoo and Hoodoo.) It was also refered to as a "mumbo jumbo, gothic" movie. The only thing pertaining to this thread is that the movie was about some people whom supposedly found a way to trade old decrepted bodies for more youthful ones against the younger peoples' will.

Voodoo is a religion that deals with working with the Ancestors and Spirits such as Loa. This changes by location as new people join up and add something into the mix of things.

Hoodoo is a type of folk magic that was brought to the US with African slaves as well which changes from one place to the next by what the new people add to it. Hoodoo is different from other forms of folk magic in that it uses alot of foot track magic with powders, floor washes, ritual baths , mojo bags and sometimes during spells verses from the Bible are recited.

Teresa
April 28th, 2006, 11:26 AM
I'm on the "nothing is impossible" boat, but I will say this: If what you are asking is possible, any Witch worth their circle salt still wouldn't tell you how. Find the tradition this comes from, and apprentice yourself to a mentor.
Being an apprentice would take many years, sometimes even a life time to learn. Most people look for a quick fix to things. In my personal opinion it is highly doubtful that someone would teach how to "trade souls" to just anyone if they held that true knowledge.

Malcolm
April 28th, 2006, 11:40 AM
I saw it. It was crap.

Not to sound like an ass here or anything, but I don't think this is possible.

Hollywood is responsible for all this "trading places" stuff. I'm sure there are spells or charms or whatever that can help you see things from anothers perspective but actually trading bodies....I'm going to file that away under stuff that will never happen.

Dead Love
May 1st, 2006, 09:53 PM
How does Voodoo enter into this in any way?

I spoke to some people... I also found links within it being satanism I'm becoming more and more curious about it now.

semi
May 1st, 2006, 11:12 PM
I spoke to some people... I also found links within it being satanism I'm becoming more and more curious about it now.

What are the links between Satanism and Voodoo? Voodoo as a religion is young, but the rites themselves are based on very old rites practiced in Africa thousands of years before Christianity existed. So if any aspect of Satanism is found in Voodoo, it's only due to Voodoo's nature to absorb elements of other systems, not because Voodoo in itself is Satanic. The core of Voodoo practice is the honoring of ancestors. Not very Satanic.

Note that I'm not against Satanism---I am a Satanist at heart---but I try to destroy the stereotypes about Voodoo whenever I can. The stereotype that it's "evil" or "Satanic" is just mindless misinformation perpetuated by people who don't know any better or by the practitioners themselves to make a fool out of people who will believe anything they're told.

Seshata
May 7th, 2006, 04:36 AM
I would go along with the opinions placed here. It isn't Voudon, it isn't as far as I know from people I've spoken to, Satanism. What kind of Satanism are you talking about? Or is it that possibly this is linked to trance states and that in itself is different.

BB

Seshata