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diversity
April 25th, 2006, 06:53 PM
Hiya,

I was wondering how many people use crystals to help their pets - and what they use? Either to get over particular emotional or physical problems or just to improve/maintain their general health and happiness.

I ask because I have a bunny that's suffering with headtilt as I write. She's staying at the vets at the mo being dosed up with antibiotics by injection and being syringe-fed food :( I'm very wary of the whole antibiotics thing, but I have no choice in this situation. She also has pasteurella which can also only be treated with long courses of antibiotics :(

So... once she's home, is there anything you can recommend stones-wise, or spiritual healing-wise (that I can do myself) to help her? I already have a clear quartz pyramid (for general health), a tumblestone of citrine (for if she has trouble with her digestion) and my Rhodochrosite crystal (as an antibiotic) out there under her hutch.

Before she suddenly became really ill I'd alternate leaving a crystal in her water bowl overnight to make an elixir. She'd have clear quartz one night, citrine another, and rhod. another!

Don't know whether any of this is accurate crystal-healing behaviour, but I'm experimenting and keeping my paws crossed!! i'm still quite fresh to all this!

Thanks ... x

lightdragon
April 25th, 2006, 10:03 PM
I would say use what you got. Also try visualizing with a brown or blue candle seeing your rabbit get better with nine clear quartz stones in a semi-circle around the candle to make it look like a cresent moon.

vikinggoddess
April 25th, 2006, 11:14 PM
If your pet got sick right after you started giving it elixirs, then I think it would be best for you to just give them plain water. You can leave stones out for the pet where they can access them when they feed the desire to do so.

CzechWoods
April 26th, 2006, 01:09 PM
i wouldnt use a pyramide at all.

secondly: are you sure you are using natural citrine not heated amethyst ?

third: get sodalite. it is the equivalent for clear quartz in human healing for animals and plants.

four: would you please post me a link for the illness you rabbit goes through, so i can better look into symptomatic healing efforts stone wise

diversity
April 27th, 2006, 01:46 AM
i wouldnt use a pyramide at all.

secondly: are you sure you are using natural citrine not heated amethyst ?

third: get sodalite. it is the equivalent for clear quartz in human healing for animals and plants.

four: would you please post me a link for the illness you rabbit goes through, so i can better look into symptomatic healing efforts stone wise

Hello CzechWoods :) Thank you so much for your reply. I have some questions - hope you don't mind!
Why shouldn't I use a pyramid - and is that just in this case or do you not recommend them at all? Should I stick to wands?

How would I know if i had obtained heated amethyst instead of natural citrine. I bought them from ebay and they seem very good, as do the amethyst and blue lace agate I also just bought lol. They're tumblestones btw.

So sodalite would be better than using clear quartz altogether on animals.

Lara has headtilt/wry neck which could be caused by Encephalitozoon cuniculi (EC):
http://www.ontariorabbits.org/health/healthinfo10.html
or Pasteurella:
http://www.rabbit.org/chapters/san-diego/health/vet-talk/pasteurella.html

She is losing her balance, therefore not daring to hop around much. She is not rolling over like some bunnies do with EC, so it's not at severe stage atm.

However, she is staying at the vets until at least Friday so I can't actually do anything other than visit her for about half an hour a day until she's back home. But it would be good to know any tricks and tips for when I visit or in advance for when she's home (fingers crossed!)

Thanks again - much appreciated!
x

diversity
April 27th, 2006, 01:50 AM
in addition to my post to Czechwoods:
She's also nauseous from the dizziness/head tilt, so she's not eating properly. Anything to help wiht the nausea?
Thx :) x

Viking goddess: fair enough re elixirs. But I didn't realise that elixirs could possibly cause harm? How would this be so?

LightDragon: thank you very much for these thoughts. I will give it a try :)

Will let you all know how she gets on!
All best x

vikinggoddess
April 27th, 2006, 11:15 AM
Viking goddess: fair enough re elixirs. But I didn't realise that elixirs could possibly cause harm? How would this be so?

Diversity,
Clear Quartz enhances energy. It is like a tonic. Tonics should not be used during infections, because they can also tonify the pathogens.

CzechWoods
April 27th, 2006, 03:46 PM
Hello CzechWoods :) Thank you so much for your reply. I have some questions - hope you don't mind!
Why shouldn't I use a pyramid - and is that just in this case or do you not recommend them at all? Should I stick to wands?

How would I know if i had obtained heated amethyst instead of natural citrine. I bought them from ebay and they seem very good, as do the amethyst and blue lace agate I also just bought lol. They're tumblestones btw.

So sodalite would be better than using clear quartz altogether on animals.

Lara has headtilt/wry neck which could be caused by Encephalitozoon cuniculi (EC):
http://www.ontariorabbits.org/health/healthinfo10.html
or Pasteurella:
http://www.rabbit.org/chapters/san-diego/health/vet-talk/pasteurella.html

She is losing her balance, therefore not daring to hop around much. She is not rolling over like some bunnies do with EC, so it's not at severe stage atm.

However, she is staying at the vets until at least Friday so I can't actually do anything other than visit her for about half an hour a day until she's back home. But it would be good to know any tricks and tips for when I visit or in advance for when she's home (fingers crossed!)

Thanks again - much appreciated!
x


basically almost any form BUT the pyramid would do. it leads to far to explain it in detail, just take my word for it (or dont). a wand would work pretty well, or even better a tumbled stone, or rough point

if you are no stone expert you have not much of a chance finding out. post a picture, if possible from a scanner, maybe we can help you identify. the declaration is no necesity unfortunately, therefor its pretty possible you do have a heated amethyst and not a natural citrine.

yes on the general use of sodalite on anymals over clear quartz, unless of course you want clear quartz specific qualities. as amplifier and generally good stone, use sodalite on animals

on the other consitions of your rabbit try a combination of:

snake skin jasper (http://de.msnusers.com/czechwoodsgems/jasper2jaspis2.msnw)
serpentine (http://de.msnusers.com/czechwoodsgems/serpentine.msnw)
green nephrite jade (http://de.msnusers.com/czechwoodsgems/jade.msnw)
sodalite (http://de.msnusers.com/czechwoodsgems/sodalite.msnw)
additionally try also jett (gagate) (http://de.msnusers.com/czechwoodsgems/jettgagat.msnw)

diversity
April 27th, 2006, 11:36 PM
Diversity,
Clear Quartz enhances energy. It is like a tonic. Tonics should not be used during infections, because they can also tonify the pathogens.

Oh i see :) Many thanks for explaining! Will be more careful in future.
x

diversity
April 27th, 2006, 11:41 PM
basically almost any form BUT the pyramid would do. it leads to far to explain it in detail, just take my word for it (or dont). a wand would work pretty well, or even better a tumbled stone, or rough point

I will certainly take your word for it. You really know your stuff lol!
Re the citrine, will try to get round to posting a pic at some stage, but no time at mo! Thank you, tho. Good suggestion for checking and I'd like to sometime soon.

will use sodalite in future on animals - thx :)

on the other consitions of your rabbit try a combination of:

snake skin jasper (http://de.msnusers.com/czechwoodsgems/jasper2jaspis2.msnw)
serpentine (http://de.msnusers.com/czechwoodsgems/serpentine.msnw)
green nephrite jade (http://de.msnusers.com/czechwoodsgems/jade.msnw)
sodalite (http://de.msnusers.com/czechwoodsgems/sodalite.msnw)
additionally try also jett (gagate) (http://de.msnusers.com/czechwoodsgems/jettgagat.msnw)
Thank you so much! Will end up wiht a huge list of crystals for my local shop to sort me out with!! You've been an absolute star, CzechWoods, thank you! x

diversity
April 27th, 2006, 11:44 PM
Oh and as an update, Lara is having a mixed response to her care at the vets. On the plus side she's taken well to syringe-feeding - she loves it! But on the down side she's losing weight every day, starting to drag one of her back legs slightly, and has started to have one eye travelling backwards and forwards slightly. They're only slight dips (rather than a drastic change) but not good signs, obviously. Will be having a chat wiht the vet again tomorrow to find out what all this means!
All best
x

CzechWoods
April 28th, 2006, 02:47 PM
good luck then :( poor bunny too

lightdragon
April 28th, 2006, 08:15 PM
good luck then :( poor bunny too
me too.

Pesha
April 28th, 2006, 11:01 PM
Poor precious Bunnychild. Healing is sent.

I hold certain stones as indicated by need and pet my cats with the stones in my hands. Seems to do the trick.

diversity
May 14th, 2006, 08:23 PM
Thank you for your lovely posts a while back :) Thought it was time a gave you an update!

My bunny, Lara, has really been thru the mill :( BUT she's really hanging in there still!! On bank hol Mon here (1st May) I had a call from her stand-in vet for the day saying she wasn't eating and had started to spin (rolling over and over on one side - a part of the course with this disease) and that she thought it was time to put her to sleep! I completely disagreed as this really is the low point that most headtilt-bunnies reach, and you have to give them a chance to fight their way out of it!

So I rushed off to the vets and rescued my poor bunny! It was awful, as the vet refused to give me any meds if I took her home and I couldn't see a rabbit specialist until the next day. So the poor girl had to go 24 hrs without meds :( I was sooooo angry about this! Needles to say that was the first of many sleepless nights nursing her!

And Lara completely proved the vet wrong, immediately and since, as when I arrived to assess Lara she was standing up in her cage eating hay, as if to say 'Look Mum, I'm really trying here! Help!!'

Since then she's been on loads of meds with a local specialist who's been absolutely fantastic. Lara's been making a gradual but marked improvement. This illness can take weeks or months to improve! But what a determined little bunny I've got!

Basically, I've been nursing her at home since beginning of May, as she's much more chilled out here, and stress is a major factor in this.

I haven't had a moment to get to the crystals shop (who I trust to give me proper stones lol). But I'm hoping to be there on Tuesday.

So.... since posting last I have more of a definite picture of Lara's illness. She has an inner ear infection caused by Pasteurella. Does this change the stones you suggested CzechWoods in any way? Here's a link to the exact thing she has: http://www.medirabbit.com/EN/Neurology/otitis_interna_media.PDF

If not, which stones would you most recommend out of the list you posted, in case I can't get them all?

As she is home I can put these by her now.

Should I be using sodalite at all, in light of the comments on quartz being an amplifier/tonic. Is sodalite not an amplifier/tonic? I know we discussed this ages ago but I haven't been able to do anything about it in the meantime!

In case it matters, she currently on penicillin, Baytril (another antibiotic), and Metacam (an NSAID). She is probably about to switch to a different antibiotic (ditching these two that she's on) that works directly on the tissues. She's also taking a probiotic.

Thank you for any further advice. Hopefully I'll have time to act on it now!!
Hope you're all doing ok x

CzechWoods
May 14th, 2006, 09:47 PM
in this case.

1. sodalite
2. kunzite or hiddenite
3. mookaite
4. eclogite or eudialite (these two are rare and hard to find)

if you cant get hold of kunzite/hiddenite
2. rosequartz
3. mookaite

lightdragon
May 15th, 2006, 01:32 AM
found an eBay auction for Eudialite
6days left for this one (http://cgi.ebay.com/Gemmy-Eudialite-Matched-Cabochon-Pair_W0QQitemZ8936896689QQcategoryZ282QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
and tons of kunzite as well in other auctions there.