Opinions: Curses, Hexes, Etc.

[Darius]

I am inquiring the opinions of as many people as I can on casting curses, hexes, and other spells, etc. that are deemed "bad".

[talamh]

I truly believe that whatever energy you send out comes back - three fold or nine fold. So sending out negative or destructive energies will only bounce back to bite me. This also covers doing the wrong thing for the right reason. This does not leave one helpless. There is always a way to send energy to help someone become more open or understanding so that people make their own non-destructive choices. An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind.

[arianrhods_daughter]

I don't think they are neccessarily "bad" but I don't believe that everyone should throw them around like confetti either

[Philosophia]

I'll only hex and curse if I feel I have no other alternative. I haven't done any because nothing bad has occured that is warrented for me to do so.
However, I will protect and defend my loved ones at all costs, both mundanely and through magickal means.

[arianrhods_daughter]

I agree with you, Ive never had that bad happen to me to warrant that sort of thing, Ive done ones to help people self realise their own characteristics adversely affecting others but that is about it

[Amber Wynd]

I'm not above cursing someone. Usually, I just wish for them whatever they wish for me and then sit back and see what happens. That way if I'm wrong about their intentions, there's no harm done.

[Darius]

I'm not above cursing someone. Usually, I just wish for them whatever they wish for me and then sit back and see what happens. That way if I'm wrong about their intentions, there's no harm done.

I find humor in that. It's quite funny and innovative. Talamh, or whatever your name was, I don't feel like checking, that's a highly recognized idea, sure, it'd be okay for a perfect communist society. I understand the concept of karma, though I see ways around it and I don't think it comes back three fold or nine fold... never have I ever given ten dollars away out of compassion and recieved thirty of ninety back! That's just blasphemy in my beliefs.

[Fire's Shadow]

If someone messes with the ones I love; I pull out all stops. No one messes with the people I love! If they caused someone pain in the first place, then I'm just sending back what they have coming to them. I've only found myself in the situation to curse/hex only twice my whole life. The use of darkness can be just as important as the use of light. Darkness can be a bitch of an enemy, but you can also bend it around and make it a good ally.

[Rick]

I am inquiring the opinions of as many people as I can on casting curses, hexes, and other spells, etc. that are deemed "bad".
Hehehe... well, they're generally "bad" for the people towards whom I direct them... _wedgie_

[enchancea]

I don't think they are neccessarily "bad" but I don't believe that everyone should throw them around like confetti either
This is pretty much what I think too

[Darius]

Hehehe... well, they're generally "bad" for the people towards whom I direct them... _wedgie_

haha, I love that.

[Rasenna]

I've done them and I think they're valid. I don't go around bandying them about like free samples, either.
"Mess with the bull, you get the horns..."
-R

[Silverfire Darkmoon]

*lol* Rasenna, that's a great phrase!
I don't really bother with them, because it's just not something I deem necessary 99.99% of the time. I will *Bind*, which is something different; on a few occasions I have tried (and failed) to skew the results of something very important that I have no physical, mundane say in in the direction to my liking; but there's only one person I have cursed and it seems to be working in an indirect fashion, although I wish things would snowball in this matter and just get it over with already. It's been about three years, how long is this thing going to take, eh?

[mtpathy]

what qualifies something as being good or bad?
imo that would be if someone retreats or moves
towards said object,idea or emotion.
both can be used in casting hexes and curses.
but then your assuming that your insecurities and
fears are shared by others.
how else would you place a curse or hex other then using
your own insecurities and fears?

[Amythyst]

[QUOTE=Fire Sage The use of darkness can be just as important as the use of light. Darkness can be a bitch of an enemy, but you can also bend it around and make it a good ally.[/QUOTE]

You are absolutely right. I couldn't have said it better.

[Feroxyhite]

My thoughts are, if you're capable of pulling such a feat off, it's your own call as to whether you want to go to the trouble of it.

[Garm]

I think it shows a superior magick not to get drawn in to such situations in the first place.

A key point in my spiritual evolution was spent in a gangwarfare enviroment and I took to the practical work for the same reasons I took up martial arts, it was just a nescesary adaptation to my circumstances.

Nowadays I will go out of my way to avoid potential problems, and might even turn the other cheek a time or two.

I hate it when people force me to hurt them.

I am just too much of a wuss to see my track record of about 10 arrests [practicing criminals have been a frequent target] five hosptalizations and two killed as anything to be proud of.

[Astara Seague]

I try not to hex,curse or anything like that to anyone because it always finds its way back

My motto is Love all - trust few - do wrong to none

[Daniel]

There are three very solid alternatives to curses/hexes:

1) Avoidance
2) Use of brute force
3) Use of deadly force

Anything else is half-assed.

[BlueMoon13]

I hate it when people force me to hurt them.


Well said.

Myself, I had an epiphany of sorts on my 40th birthday. A good friend and witch who'd been warlocked by some of the same people I had been warlocked by looked at me and said "You've spent your whole life fixing people. Break a few." While I have'nt completely broken any yet, a few organs have had to be removed,friends have fled, and commerce has been disrupted. Am I proud of those "accomplishments"? Proud would'nt be the correct word, nor would " pleased" be accurate. Accepting of what's occurred would be more accurate, as I've only sent back what's been sent my way. Payback's a bitch.

[Rick]

how else would you place a curse or hex other then using
your own insecurities and fears?
... I generally use runes... :viking:

[mtpathy]

... I generally use runes... :viking:

ok but that is only the tool,that is not the intent.
hate and envy,like most other "negative" emotions
is a product of fear,so to extend "hate" or "pain" to
another wouldn't you have to first reach into your
well of experience.

[~Elise~]

I never do hexes or such while angry, hurt or anything along those lines.

Only when you step back from that are you able to effectively do such work. Emotions only cloud the issue and your work.

JMO

Elise

[Rick]

ok but that is only the tool,that is not the intent.
hate and envy,like most other "negative" emotions
is a product of fear,so to extend "hate" or "pain" to
another wouldn't you have to first reach into your
well of experience.
:hehehehe: It was 'tongue in cheek'...

I don't do anything out of hate... can't think of any one or thing that I hate... I don't fear anyone... I have been known to occasionally become put out (I don't really get angry), but I don't re-act in the heat of the moment; any curses I might send are done in stone coldness.

PS- If you think runes are 'tools', you really gotta make it up for one of my rune classes. Will PM or email next time we schedule it, if you're interested... ah, hell, we need to have a long talk over a cup of mead, class or no... :cheers:

[The High Queen of Faerie]

I don't really dig hexes or stuff like that, if I want to duke it out with someone I'll just do that with words or whatever. Or, if I can't be bothered, I'll just cut that person out of my life. There's no point in creating some elaborate ritual out of it - as long as someone who's giving me crap is out of my life, I'm fine.

I've done bindings, though, but that's more defense than offense.

[mtpathy]

:hehehehe: It was 'tongue in cheek'...

I don't do anything out of hate... can't think of any one or thing that I hate... I don't fear anyone... I have been known to occasionally become put out (I don't really get angry), but I don't re-act in the heat of the moment; any curses I might send are done in stone coldness.

PS- If you think runes are 'tools', you really gotta make it up for one of my rune classes. Will PM or email next time we schedule it, if you're interested... ah, hell, we need to have a long talk over a cup of mead, class or no... :cheers:

lol no worries,i just read your email, the wife and i have this weekend free
only thing we wanted to definetly do is roam around the arts festival down-
town :)
taking a rune class would be a blast :)

[~Elise~]

Rick and I will be down in OKC this weekend at OPERA fair. Come on over!

Four Point Sheraton Hotel by the airport. Sat 10-6 and Sun 12-6.

Elise

[Cath]

If you were badly hurt by someone, would cursing that person not just be part of the karma the person gets back? Is it not just balancing things out, giving karma a jumpstart?

[Gypsy flower]

I would never hurt/curse/hex anyone else on purpose no matter how angry I may be at them

[arianrhods_daughter]

Never say never, although to this point Ive not knowing and consciously gone out of my way to hex/curse a person theres always the chance that subconsciously or indirectly I may have, you just don't know, IMO anyway..

[Darius]

Thanks for all the wonderful responses. As to the "karma" idea. I understand it, and think of it as more of a moral guideline like a suggestion, but if you use it right, Curses and Hexes will fit right in there to help the other person get the karma coming back to them (bad karma that is). I also see ways around Karma, but I don't feel like getting into that. Rick, I'd also be interested in your Rune class.

[Phoenix Element]

I will protect myself and those I love, but I wouldn't take "cursing" lightly by any means. I don't really believe in the letter of the three-fold rule, but I DO believe in its spirit. I don't see karma as being a specfic and deliberate creature that smacks you back for what you've done. But when you do negative things, you should definitely expect negative reactions and treatment from those around you and/or the receptor of your negative focus. Do enough "bad" and you'll eventually meet up with someone who knows how to deal with you and hits back hard. This goes for curses, physical abuse, backstabbing, etc etc.

[Darius]

Of course, you piss off the wrong person and they could as well curse you. Then you'd have magickal warfare going on. It actually sounds like a good time. haha.

[Little Billy]

I am inquiring the opinions of as many people as I can on casting curses, hexes, and other spells, etc. that are deemed "bad".

I don't think they're bad. At least not any worse than, say, a pistol.

Only problem is - assuming this stuff works - if the victim doesn't know he's been cursed, then what good is it?

[Jolixte]

I think someone should curse me.

[Little Billy]

I think someone should curse me.

Good luck. I can't even get them to kill me.

[Jolixte]

Good luck. I can't even get them to kill me.
That's a shame.

[Little Billy]

That's a shame.


Ain't it, though?

[Darius]

I don't think they're bad. At least not any worse than, say, a pistol.

Only problem is - assuming this stuff works - if the victim doesn't know he's been cursed, then what good is it?

The same way that pistol would work if they didn't know they were shot.

[Rick]

Rick, I'd also be interested in your Rune class.
PM'd ya.

[Rick]

I think someone should curse me.
Can't. You're wrapped in a string...

[coeur]

The problem with hexing is that it's too simple, and, when things are too simple, you know something's bound to go wrong. First of all, people think it's the coward's way out of giving someone a good dose of 'human justice,' however, they fail to realize that curses can cause major damage. That is, they know that curses can hurt people, but do they really understand that it can kill them? For all most people think, cursing is the equivalent of running up to someone invisibly and giving them a magical wedgie.

Frankly, if you're not prepared to do something absolutely horrible to someone, like, say, put a gun between their eyes and blow their brains out, then don't curse. Cursing is just as good as any physical action, and people don't understand that. When you cast a curse, you better know that it will work (that is, if you're a competent magician), and you better be expecting some major bad news from the person you're cursing. People get freaked out when terrible things beyond their imagination happens to people they curse (major illness, loss of life, etc), but then, didn't they KNOW they were cursing someone? It's not like they were just slapping them on the wrist.

Petty curses should be avoided, I feel like. For instance, make someone be unable to find a prom date. That sort of thing just lacks maturity and probably won't work (unless if you're a teenage girl of 12 or something). The reason for this is that cursing requires a lot of negativity and anger. Cursing is the direction of this intense anger and hate, and thus, it usually only works when you REALLY hate someone. Thus, petty curses only breed bad habits and poor magical hygiene in my opinion.

Cursing is also detrimental to the magician's own psychology. Let's say every time you get angry you go and beat someone up. You just keep beating people up every time you get angry and soon you become a very violent person. You become worse off as a human being over time because you can't deal with your anger in any other way than being a violent person. The same applies to cursing. Cursing isn't simply 'letting go of negativity,' it's directing intended malice. If you make habitual use of this, then you can eventually turn up to be a very rotten person.

I don't have objections to someone cursing, however, cursing irresponsibly can be dangerous. If someone wants to curse someone else, then it's in their right to do so. I'm not a teacher of morality and I won't stand in the way of someone who wants to do something. However, when people complain about their curses going wrong, etc, well, certainly they haven't done their homework.