Practicing Black Magic & Demonolator

[Shield_Wolf]

Frist if you're not sure what Demonlator is go to Darius post on Demonolatry, http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?t=128643

But any way, do any of you think that because I am interested in learning Black Magic and Demon Magic that I might be evil deep down inside. Or could it be my want you more Knowlege.

[semi]

I think it's up to you to decide why you're interested in certain things. I don't know you, so I have no idea.

[Shield_Wolf]

I think it's up to you to decide why you're interested in certain things. I don't know you, so I have no idea.

Good point. I quess a better quesion would be, do you thing some one who practices this stuff evil. I might get the same anwser as above witch would be okay. What are all your views on this type of magic and all.

[semi]

I don't think the practice of this implies that you're evil. It might not be a good idea to practice black magic because you attract the type of energy you generate, in my opinion. But I don't think it makes you evil for doing it.

My view on this type of magic is that I think you should be sure what it is that you're going to be working with. What is a demon? Some people say they're fallen angels. Some say they're a type of Fae. Some say they're just man-made negative energy constructs. If some of these people are right, what's an angel? What's a Fae? I think you should learn as much as you can about the nature of these things before you work with them.

Good luck.

[gurlygurl2004]

I've tried black magick and found a lot of dissatifaction, so I no longer do purely black magick, I don't even do that much magick.

[Darius]

Frist if you're not sure what Demonlator is go to Darius post on Demonolatry, http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?t=128643

But any way, do any of you think that because I am interested in learning Black Magic and Demon Magic that I might be evil deep down inside. Or could it be my want you more Knowlege.

Back in the day, there was no division of magick called White and Black. These days, there is the division because of the general outcome, desire, will, or intentions of the magick. Generally, one who practices Demon and Black magick is one who wishes to break one's tie with divinity, one doesn't want to become part of it, one wants to EXIST, one wants to LIVE. At least, this is my general stature and theory, which I have picked up from many other demonic and black magicians ("sorcerors" these days, plus it sounds cool) and from my practice in Demonolatry. I'm not evil, I just want to exist.

[semi]

Don't you already exist?

[Darius]

Don't you already exist?

Perhaps I should be a little more explicit here. Exist in the sense that once my soul achieves "perfection" so that it may join back with true divinity like in so many other religions, all the Right-Hand Paths frankly. I don't want to be absorbed back into that, I want to continue to live, to continue to exist and not become another cliche.

[Little Billy]

. Or could it be my want you more Knowlege.

Unnnng?

[semi]

Perhaps I should be a little more explicit here. Exist in the sense that once my soul achieves "perfection" so that it may join back with true divinity like in so many other religions, all the Right-Hand Paths frankly. I don't want to be absorbed back into that, I want to continue to live, to continue to exist and not become another cliche.

So you want immortality?

Just trying to understand.

[Phoenix Element]

I wouldn't call you evil for this interest. Just from reading this (that is to say, knowing that I know nothing about you), I would say it looks like you want powerful, swift results, regardless of consequences, and perhaps you're actively looking for a pinch of chaos to add spice to life. Best of luck, and don't let anyone categorize you as "evil" :)

[Shield_Wolf]

So you want immortality?

I don't know about any one else but I want Immortality(lol).

And thank ever one for your input.

[Little Billy]

I don't know about any one else but I want Immortality(lol).



Why the hell would anyone want that?

[Darius]

:hahugh:
I don't know about any one else but I want Immortality(lol).

And thank ever one for your input.

It looks like you an I will get along quite well Shield Wolf. Quite well indeed. We should work together sometime.
:hahugh:

[Shield_Wolf]

Why the hell would anyone want that?

To tell you the truth, I'm not sure why I feel the need to found Immortality.

[Little Billy]

To tell you the truth, I'm not sure why I feel the need to found Immortality.


Well, when you go insane with boredom in 300 years or so, don't come crying to me. Because I'll be dust.

[Shield_Wolf]

Well, when you go insane with boredom in 300 years or so, don't come crying to me. Because I'll be dust.

Don't worry, I won't.

[David19]

That sounds a bit like me, one of the reason why i liked sites on the Left Hand path (like Diane Vera's site, Demonolatary sites, etc) is because it seemed to focus on 'becoming' a god, in whatever way, while still remaining individual, plus i'd like to see powerful results, not just 'subtle' things.

So, hopefully, when i have some money, i can buy some of the books on Demonolatry (as well as a few others that i've seen).

[semi]

That sounds a bit like me, one of the reason why i liked sites on the Left Hand path (like Diane Vera's site, Demonolatary sites, etc) is because it seemed to focus on 'becoming' a god, in whatever way, while still remaining individual, plus i'd like to see powerful results, not just 'subtle' things.

So, hopefully, when i have some money, i can buy some of the books on Demonolatry (as well as a few others that i've seen).


There can be huge amounts of power in subtlety.

[Darius]

If you think there are huge amounts of power in subtlety, imagine what you'd find in powerful results.

[semi]

The point I was trying to make is that results don't have to be overt to be powerful. If someone is looking for powerful results then they're basically looking for power itself, in my opinion. In my spiritual practice, power is a naturally occurring byproduct, not the goal itself. When students have come to me telling me that they want power or flashy results, it never worked out to their liking when they found out that it wasn't about that. Those who got into it in an effort to learn more about themselves or to become more whole eventually found power and were impressed by the results. I think the seeking of power is a hollow pursuit. It's the seeking of spiritual substance that holds actual power. Just my opinions, not trying to offend you or insult your path. I don't disagree with what you do, just disagree with some of the statements made here.

[Shield_Wolf]

The point I was trying to make is that results don't have to be overt to be powerful. If someone is looking for powerful results then they're basically looking for power itself, in my opinion. In my spiritual practice, power is a naturally occurring byproduct, not the goal itself. When students have come to me telling me that they want power or flashy results, it never worked out to their liking when they found out that it wasn't about that. Those who got into it in an effort to learn more about themselves or to become more whole eventually found power and were impressed by the results. I think the seeking of power is a hollow pursuit. It's the seeking of spiritual substance that holds actual power. Just my opinions, not trying to offend you or insult your path. I don't disagree with what you do, just disagree with some of the statements made here.

This is true and I agree with you. I asked the quesion because I've had people say that because you are learning the dark art are about them your evil. Me I would rather take my time and learn about myself, even if ganing some power takes a long time. I just study to know the other side and know what some(not all) people might do this for evil, and protect myself and people I care about.

[Darius]

You could always sell your soul. :-P Just kidding.

The goal isn't power. The goal is in existence.

[coeur]

I don't think a fascination of demonolatry is a bad thing, nor are any of the left-hand paths particularly bad. They just take a different approach to life: that is, one of materialism and pragmatism as opposed to the grandiose spiritualism of the right-hand paths. Both paths have their pros and cons so it's not legitimate to say that either is better than the other. The main difference is that left-handists tend to 'desire their fears,' or, to embrace their shortcomings and thus, they no longer become undesirable traits, while right-handists prefer to reject their fears or to purify their shortcomings until they become perfect. Both methods can work, though, for different people.

Power, of course, is very alluring to everyone. No one is beyond the reaches of powerlust (unless if you're enlightened that is), and it doesn't harm one to indulge in a bit from time to time. However, most every religion/traditional emphasizes something more than mere power. As we all know power can turn men mad and corrupt, and, no mad or corrupt man is ever an alluring mascot for a religion. The trick is that you must balance your materialistic desires with your spiritual sense. That is, be able to gain in your physical life, but not to the point that it overwhelms your spiritual. This is important in all spiritual paths, left or right.

[Darius]

I don't think a fascination of demonolatry is a bad thing, nor are any of the left-hand paths particularly bad. They just take a different approach to life: that is, one of materialism and pragmatism as opposed to the grandiose spiritualism of the right-hand paths. Both paths have their pros and cons so it's not legitimate to say that either is better than the other. The main difference is that left-handists tend to 'desire their fears,' or, to embrace their shortcomings and thus, they no longer become undesirable traits, while right-handists prefer to reject their fears or to purify their shortcomings until they become perfect. Both methods can work, though, for different people.

Power, of course, is very alluring to everyone. No one is beyond the reaches of powerlust (unless if you're enlightened that is), and it doesn't harm one to indulge in a bit from time to time. However, most every religion/traditional emphasizes something more than mere power. As we all know power can turn men mad and corrupt, and, no mad or corrupt man is ever an alluring mascot for a religion. The trick is that you must balance your materialistic desires with your spiritual sense. That is, be able to gain in your physical life, but not to the point that it overwhelms your spiritual. This is important in all spiritual paths, left or right.

And if one were to admit he or she were already corrupt before seeking power?