Peace agreements, Calendars and 9/11.

[the monk]

On a bright sunny Autumn morning, 13th September 1993, two men stood facing each other shaking hands. It was a startling picture that made front page headlines around the world,...not for the reason of it taking place on the lawn outside the White House, but because no one ever thought that we would live to see Yitzhak Rabin, the P.M. of Israel, and Yasir Arafat, chairman of the P.L.O. shaking hands.
It was an unbelievable event that took place after Shimon Peres, who was then, the foreign Minister and Mahmoud Abbas, who is now the P.M. of Palestine, signed a historical agreement, that promised a light at the end of the tunnel in the peace process....The signing took place at 11:43am.
The hope, which most people held, soon died, as more blood was spilled.
Soon after Rabin was assassinated, most historians agree that it was due to being involved in this agreement, i wont comment further as i have no wish to be political on this thread, other than explain events.
Sometimes great events in history falter because of one small fact....The President of the United States was Bill Clinton and not Ronald Reagan.
Hold it!, i'm not being political, but just stating a fact, "Ronny" wouldn't do anything without being helped by an astrologer, and certainly wouldn't have let "The Oslo Accords" be signed at 11:43am , 13th September 1993 at Washington D.C.
Hell! what a putred event astrology chart (on attachment), made worse as the royal star Regulus, is conjunct the M.C., which always explodes negatively if revenge takes place, not to mention Pluto in its own sign conjunct the Asc., Saturn within 4* degrees of I.C. square Pluto, and Chiron conjunct the M.C., to name just a few of the aspects the worry me with this chart.
Later today i hope to put on thread a lot of information on how a lot of calendars lined up in regard to the Oslo Accords and the WYE agreements, which is very strange and shows links to a lot of terrorist attacks including 9/11, it should be interesting reading.
For the time being i would be very interested in any one's comments in regard to the chart on attachment.

[the monk]

It was always a threat that Washington and London were going to be a target for terrorist attacks, for reasons of history and their connection to the state of Israel.
The whole process was started on 2nd Nov. 1917, when Lord Arthur Balfour, the British foreign secretary sent a letter, later known as the Balfour Declaration, to Lord Rothchild supporting the establishment of a Jewish national home in Palestine.
After W.W.1. Britain was given a Mandate to bring the countries that had been governed by the Turkish- Ottaman Empire to a democratic conclusion by the League of Nations.
Unfortunately this wasnt achieved, which led to the Declaration of Israel in 1948. Which was a surprise at the time, and President Truman was never forgiven by those opposed to a state of Israel, for the telegram he sent recognizing the fact in 1948...Most countries followed the U.S. in accepting Israel. (Please note this isnt a political statement, i am just stating history).
After the First Gulf War that started at 02:38am on 17th Jan. 1991, world leaders tried to find a new solution to the Israel/Palestine problem.
The Oslo Accords was secret meetings that were finalized in Oslo on 20th August 1993 that involved Yitzhak Rabin and Yasser Arafat, that led to "The signing of the Accords" on the lawn of the White House on 13 Sept 1993.
The Basis of the secret agreements went back to "The Madrid Conference" of 1991.
There have been many meetings and "talks" that include WYE., of which i would like to mention two others:- 1) The Negotiation for Permanent status that commenced in Taba, Egypt on 5th May 1996, and 2) The Sharm El Sheikh Memorandum that was signed on 4th September 1999, which were very difficult issues to be dealt with, and caused a lot of friction with those opposed to any negotiation.
Okay, now comes the complicated bit.......11th September 2001 is based on the Gregorian calendar, so for the Islamic calender it fell on 23rd Jumaada Al Thani of the year 1422 A.H. , for the Ethiopian calendar it was the Ist Meskerem of year 7501 and by the Coptic Calendar, it fell on Ist Thout of year 1725....all of which is confusing but stay with me.
The Ethiopian Ist Meskerem and the Egyptian Coptic Ist Thout are the New year's Day for both these Calendars, which is why Egypt adopted it's Constitution on 11th September 1971.
The Ethiopian and Coptic New Year's Day in fact always fall on the 11th September of the Gregorian calendar, except on leap years, where an extra day is added.
In 1999 of the Gregorian calendar, 11 September also marked the Jewish New Year, which fell on 1st Tishri 5760, this is because its a bit like the Christian Easter as it is determined by the New Moon and must not fall on certain days of the week. All these ancient calendars seem to go back to early Egyptian times.
The early Egyptian New Year was marked by the first dawn rising of Sirius, which originally called 1st day of the first month of Thoth, which due to 1/4 day difference slowly got out of synch with the heliacal rising of Sirius and the Summer Solstace, so by early Christian times, The First of Thoth had drifted to 11 September Gregorian, which is why the Coptic New year, being 1st of Thoot starts on this date.
If you havent got all that, it doesn't matter, all you have to remember was 11 September 1999 was important to a lot of calendars and was the last year before the Millenium in Gregorian. Which somehow may explain how Sirius was exactly conjunct the M.C. at mid-night over the Pyramids on Jan 1st 2000, hell, i will leave that for another day!
Okay now lets go back to THE SHARM EL-SHEIKH MEMORANDUM.
This agreement that was signed on September 4th 1999 in Sharm el Sheikh, Egypt and had numerous clauses relating to all manner of issues outstanding between Israel and the Palestinian Authority, including reducing the area of the West Bank under Israeli control from 72% to 59%.
There are some within our collective consciousness that never want a peace involving a state of Israel, which they dont recognize. Thus i imagine that this agreement, may of resulted in the terrorist attack on the Pentagon on 11th September 2001....considering that construction started on 11 Sept 1941, and Clinton had been the American President involved with the " Hand shake" between Rabin and Arafat after the Oslo Accords signing at the White House on September 13th 1993.
SO WHERE DOES 11th Sept. fit in to the American attack and these agreements?
There are 12 clauses in the Sharm El Sheikh Memorandum, and the actual document is easy to find on the net.....I quote from the document, but only from clause 12.
"THIS MEMORANDUM WILL ENTER INTO FORCE ONE WEEK FROM THE DATE OF ITS SIGNATURE.
MADE AND SIGNED IN SHARM EL SHEIKH, THIS FOURTH DAY OF SEPTEMBER 1999"......7 days after would make it 11 September 1999.
I wonder if this was the real message behind the 9/11 bombing in America, which may be "dont try to find a solution to the Israeli/Palestine problem?"
We can take this theory further and ask, was the bombing in Sharm El Sheikh on 23rd July 2005 at 01:15am. to punish the town for hosting this agreement?
Could some of the other attacks be due to a city or town that have hosted peace agreements involving the Israeli/Palestine problem?
Could the Message of 9/11 be this is "The First Day of a New year" of terrorism due to these agreement....Who knows when religion gets twisted, and peace isn't wanted by some?
The Egyptian town of Taba has hosted a few of these agreements, and the Taba Hilton Hotel was hit at 22:00pm on 7th October 2004.
Could the Madrid Conference of 30th October 1991 have anything to do with the Madrid Train Bombing of 11th March 2004, and here we find a connection to 11th September 2001 as 2004 was a leap year....by counting the days between 11 Sept 2001 and 11 March 2004, you will find 912 days if you use the Gregorian calendar but if you use the Coptic, you will find "911 DAYS", plus 11 March is a half way measure to 11 September!
I wonder about the Oslo Accords and wonder if Norway will have any suffering!

[Fluffmeister]

This is fantastic stuff, Monk - you've jogged my memory about Rosh HaShanah being 11 Sept in 1999 (I knew that date sounded familiar even before the twin towers attacks), but I didn't know about all those other calendars.

[the monk]

Hi fluff,
yes it is interesting, yet being tired i have made a small mistake which i will rectify, by not including both dates of 11 Sept 2001 or 11 March 2004 is the only way of finding 911 days in between!
Please find clause 12 of the Sharm el sheikh Memorandum on attachment, which states that the memorandum will enter into force one week from the date of signature.

[the monk]

I havent bothered attaching details of Rabins death, just tap 9:40pm 4 nov. Rabin assassination into a search engine, you should get all the details you need. i have put the chart on attachment to compare to the chart of the "Signing of Oslo Accords".
I know there are some very experienced astrologers at "Mysticwicks" so i wont go on about the obvious on the Desc.
but interesting that Chiron is within orb of I.C., when it was conjunct M.C. in previous chart of the Oslo Accords.....Moon on M.C. always captures the attention of the collective in mundane astrology.
So what about the power of Regulus and the nemesis of revenge....Ha Ha its there but you will have to think of new rules being applied to astrology and fixed stars.
On the Oslo Accord chart for the year 1993 Regulus was at 29*44' Leo, which makes it conjunct the M.C. within 30', and Pluto was at 23*12' Scorpio which makes it conjunct the Asc.
By 4th Nov. 1995,(Rabin's Assassination) Pluto had moved to 29*46' Scorpio.....fixed stars as you know only move 1 degree every 72 years, so Regulus only moved 2 seconds, so was at 29*46' Leo, which is an exact square to Pluto...Gulp!
Arafat died on the anniversary of another peace treaty, but not the Oslo Accord....He died on the 11th day of the 11 month 2004 in France,.....amazing stuff involved in the cycles of astrology!

[the monk]

Now the London Terrorist happened at 08:50am. on the 7th of July 2005, which shows Juno very near to the M.C., if you make up a chart.
The trouble with reading mundane charts are....maybe they are electional.
I have put a page from Wikipedia on attachment from Juno (mythology).
Actually, the 7th of July is a festival in honour of Juno, called "Nonae Caprotinae"!
As you have read, there is great significance with the date of 11th September, and the Coptic Calendar, (Please look up on internet), which is New Years Day, if you want to have a calendar by ancient Egyptians.
The first day of the Coptic calendar is also marked by the Feast of Neyrouz, Known as "Ano Martyrum, A.M., which means "Year of the martyrs!"
I wouldnt be surprised if religion and astrology isnt being inter-mixed.
We know that 1st Jan 2000 was the wrong date to celebrate the Millennium, calendar experts say it should have been celebrated at mid-night between 31st Dec. 2000 and 1st Jan 2001.
If you celebrate the New Millennium by the Coptic Calendar, it would be 11th Sept. 2001...suspicious isnt it? Mohammed atta was an Egyptian, the leader of the terrorists on 9/11.
A lot of astrologers here probably have Solar Fire astrology programme that also shows Bernadette Brady's Parans.
Set up a chart for 00:00 1st Jan any year between 1901 and 2101 for Cairo, Egypt, and tell me what star is in paran to the M.C./mid-heaven.
It may tell you why so much symbolism is going on at the moment!

[the monk]

If you have looked on the previous attachment, then you have seen that Juno had a festival on 13th September!
A Montreal School suffered on 13th September 2006 at 12:41pm., Please view attachments and chart which shows Juno under four degrees away from the M.C., in opposition to Uranus. The M.C. is in Paran to fixed star Zosma, which is one of the most difficult fixed stars.
Just over two years ago another school suffered on Wednesday 1st September 2004, when a school was seized by gunmen at 09:00am.
If you make up a chart you will find the I.C. at 09*25' Capricorn, and Juno at 09*10' Capricorn.
Beslan, Russia, Lat. 43*N11', Long. 44*E32'.

[the monk]

The reason that i mentioned Cairo is that parans are shown on Solar Fire which some here will have this astrology programme, i have access to solar fire, but do most of my paran work on "Starlight" which is Bernadette Brady's astrology programme that works out fixed star parans as the ancients did.
I'm going to write out some research then put attachments to this thread later.
Now if you set up a chart by Solar Fire for Cairo you will find that it is 30*N03' 31*E15', Now Cheops Pyramid is very very near Cairo at 29*N58', 31*N07', and shows almost the same parans, especially in regards to Sirius and the M.C.
Most seekers of the secrets of ancient knowledge express sadness that the "Great Library of Alexandria" was burned to the ground in the early centuries A.D.
The library at Alexandria was one of the wonders of the ancient world, housing all the books, scrolls, and history from the dawn of human civilisations.
Even by 200A.D. Clement of Alexandria still made reference to a catalogue of Egyptian books which contained in 36 works, the entire philosophy of the Egyptians.
Among them were 8 books dealing with the knowledge of what were called "Heiroglyphics", and included Cosmography, geography, the position of the Sun, Moon, the phases of the five planets, the chorography of Egypt, information on fixed stars, and all the secrets of the priest astronomers.....
All of this went up in smoke!!!!
Sosigenes was a student at the great library, and as i have said was the father of the Julian calendar, that he calibrated from the Coptic calendar, and the great fixed star, Sirius, that the Egyptians loved so much.
In the "Dark Ages" so much information was lost, and although we surmise that the Egyptian priests started the Coptic calendar around early July approx. 5,000 years ago, as the Sun rose with Sirius, we cannot be sure... there is evidence that the Egyptians used other calcalations other than Sirius, sadly by early Christian times, even followers of the Coptic calendar had lost track, thus is why "The first of Tout/New Year" isnt adjusted with the gregorian calendar, as Sirius slips backwards.
Except for Leap Years the Coptic New Year is always 11th September, that is obviously out of sink with Sirius.
Sosigenes also made another adjustment, as it was around this time that the 1st Jan. become important, although it took a long while for the Western calendar to use the 1st Jan. as the beginning of the New Year.
Google Earth is free if you only have the basic programme, it allows you to zoom in within a few hundred feet, anywhere in the world and gives latitude and longitude.
The original Egyptian Heirogliph for Sirius was a five pointed star, a dome or half circle and an obelisk or shape like a finger of God, hence my interest in quintiles and mason tradition of using the symbol of the pentacle or pentagon to signify Sirius, which obviously they used in the "Ground breaking ceremony of the Pentagon" which was 11th Sept. 1941.
A few months back i zoomed in by Google Earth above the "Great Cheops Pyramid", just outside Cairo, and suddenly had a thought, that i will now explain.
The great pyramid of Cheops, when looking at it from above, shows the edges or corners rise up and meet in the centre.
As astrologers, we know that the astrology wheel is very ancient, and is connected to our clock face, even seconds and minutes come from astrology!
Now i may be fanciful, but looking down on a pyramid... it does remind you of a square clock, we all have had watches that only show 3, 6, 9, and 12, which is symbolic of the "Cross of Matter" and the angles of the earth!
Indeed if you look at a pyramid side ways...it points to the sky, but if it was trying to point to a star...what star, and what period of time?
I set up "Starlight" for the Lat. and Long of Cheops pyramid, and as it sits just outside Cairo, i knew the Winter time factor was -02:00.
I set it for 1st Jan at 00:00am.
Now the New Year started in ancient Egypt when the Sun Rose with Sirius, so if Sirius was to correspond to the end/beginning of the Gregorian calendar, then we would be looking for Sirius culminating in paran to the M.C., at the stroke of mid-night on 31st Dec/1st Jan., while the Sun is in opposition.
The chances of this happening over Cheops Pyramid are astronomical, considering that Sirius slips because it isnt in line with an exact year.
I have looked through several thousand years, and have only found this happening on a continual basis from 1st Jan 1901 to 1st Jan. 2101, after which it peters out, only coming back for a while, the year before leap years.
So what i am saying is Sirius chimes in the New Year over Cheops Pyramid, at the stroke of Mid-Night, in this era, between 1901 and 2101!
I dont know how to value this, because i have gaps in my knowledge as an astrologer, do we value this like a transit, if so then the middle period would be strongest, which points to the years that we are in now.
The theory of this can go further, can the Sphinx tell us anything?
It may, there are theories that the Sphinx has a womans face, but we can be sure it has a lions body.
If it did have a womans face it could point to the cusp between Leo and Virgo, but even if we agree that the Sphinx only had a lions body, we would be forgiven in looking up when Regulus was on the cusp.
After all it is the "Royal Persian Star of Leo", and after Sirius, the ancients thought this star was very very important....in fact they considered Regulus as the "Ruler of the Angles of the Earth"!
Again i am confused by calendar experts who say that the Millennium should have been celebrated at mid-night between 31st Dec.2000, and 1st Jan. 2001, and could that influence how we judge a cusp?
I have checked on starlight...on 18th September 2011, Regulus passes to
00*00' Virgo and stays at that position till Thurday 25th October 2012, so on Starlight, for the next day, being Friday 26th October 2012, Regulus is shown as 00*01' Virgo, which is under two months away from 21st Dec., being the end of the Mayan Calendar.
I will carry on with this thread tomorrow and show all attachments, and printout from both starlight and solar fire.

[business voodoo]

it is interesting that the source of the calendars ... evidentially the julian was spawned from a system delineated from the star sirius, just as the mayan calendar was ...

sirius, not a star, but dual star ... hence, perhaps the innate duality "stamped" on our civilizations .... perhaps where we can start is by adopting a calendar not calibrated to a source of duality ... could that be possible? would it make a difference ??

great work monk!!!

[the monk]

I'm attaching a few attachments from solar fire and starlight.

[the monk]

Parans from solar fire on attachment for when we celebrated the millennium.

[the monk]

Please read web-link, it would seem that the Mayan long count is based on approx. 3,000 years ago, when Regulus shared the Venus round cycle.
Fluff helped me with some interesting calcalations involving the retrograde motion of Venus, 21st Dec. 2012, and an all planetary grand sextile that appears 220 days later....things seem to fit like a glove!
http://www.mayamysteryschool.com/venusround.htm

[the monk]

I have put details from starlight showing the last day Regulus is at 00*00' Virgo and the next day which shows Regulus at 00*01' on attachment.
The Venus transits of 2004 and 2012 are very rare, which occur in the second half of sideral Taurus....in the "Horns of the Bull"...El Nath is the North Horn and Al Hecka is the South Horn.
After 2012 we will have to wait for over a century till Venus passes over the Sun again.
In 2012, Venus goes retrograde on 15th May....220 days later is the End of the Mayan Calendar. 220 days later on 29th July 2013, at a Mayan location of Mexico, we have an all planetary grand sextile that also includes Venus, on attachment.

[the monk]

If you have looked on the previous attachment, then you have seen that Juno had a festival on 13th September!
A Montreal School suffered on 13th September 2006 at 12:41pm., Please view attachments and chart which shows Juno under four degrees away from the M.C., in opposition to Uranus. The M.C. is in Paran to fixed star Zosma, which is one of the most difficult fixed stars.
Just over two years ago another school suffered on Wednesday 1st September 2004, when a school was seized by gunmen at 09:00am.
If you make up a chart you will find the I.C. at 09*25' Capricorn, and Juno at 09*10' Capricorn.
Beslan, Russia, Lat. 43*N11', Long. 44*E32'.
News item and chart on the Platte Canyon High School attack on attachment.
The attack happened shortly before noon, so i have set my chart at 11:55am
Wednesday 27th September 2006. The attack happened in Bailey, Colorado, but my astrology programme hasnt lat. & long for this small town, so i have set it for Littleton, which is 30 miles away.
Juno under a degree from the M.C.
Hera/Juno in Mythology hasnt a great reputation in regards to children.
On Tuesday 20th April 1999 at 11:10am at Littleton, Colorado, "The Columbine School Massacre took place. (Look up in Wikipedia.)
If you make up a Placidus chart you will find Pluto and Juno conjunct within half a degree in the fifth house associated with children.

[the monk]

I thought i would post the chart and details on the Columbine School Massacre.
As i explained the Juno/Pluto conjunction and Chiron are in the fifth house but also in Sag. associated with learning/children.
Mercury is within two degrees of M.C. connected with schools!

[the monk]

The fixed star parans that Bernadette Brady uses are the same as the ancient Egyptian's used, and earlier on this thread i wrote about the amazing fact that approx. five thousand years ago the start of the New Year was connected to when the Sun rose on the Asc. with Sirius, and from 1901 to 2101 at Midnight between 31 Dec and 1 Jan, Sirius is now culminating on the M.C. over Cheops Pyramid at 29*N58', 31*E07'.
Working with latitude and longitude and fixed star parans can be very complicated, but the position of Cheops pyramid does seem to show a lot of mathematical understanding, as i will now explain.
One minute of latitude equals one nautical mile at any longitude. At the Equator, one minute of longitude also equals one nautical mile, but at higher latitudes, the distance between each minute of longitude become shorter, because the straight line distance through the Earth at the 30th parallel is 87% of the diameter of the Earth, the circumference around the Earth at the 30th parallel is 87% of the diameter of the Earth, the circumference around the Earth at the 30th parallel is 87% of the circumference of the Earth at the Equator, and each minute of longitude at the 30th parallel is 87% of the distance of each minute of longitude at the Equator.
As a result, just as one nautical mile equals one minute of longitude at the Equator, one standard mile equals one minute of longitude at the 30th parallel.
I know this is confusing but it shows that as Cheops Pyramid at 29*N58', 31*E07' is very central for calcalating parans for thousands of years in the future, and may have been put at this position intentionally to mark the beginning of the Gregorian New Year in this Era.
Obviously there are other locations where Sirius brings in the New Year in our era, Longitude at 00*W07' starts from London, because of Greenwich time, and Sirius appears on the M.C. at the start of some New Years during this period. The M.C. along 00*W Long has to be 9*-11* Cancer to pick up Sirius.
Yet Lourdes, France is 00*W03' Long, and has a M.C. approx. 25* Gemini at mid-night bringing in the New Year, which hasnt a hope of picking up Sirius on the M.C.
As Cheops sits approx 30* Lat and 30*Long, then New Orleans at 29*N58', 90*W03' picks up Sirius on the M.C. at Mid-night on some New Years, as it is on 90* Long where as Cheops is approx. 30* Long, London is 00* Long, etc.
But to pick up Sirius on the M.C/Long. the M.C. needs to be approx. 10* Cancer, so if another pyramid in Mexico had Sirius on the M.C. at midnight in this era during the start of our New Year, i think we would have to say that they must be connected, the chances of this are millions to one, and i wonder what they are trying to tell us!
Chichen Itza Pyramid casts unique and identifiable shadows on the exact days of the year that represent the solstice and equinox that occur twice a year. This shows the Maya were aware of the rotation of the Sun and the exact length of a year.
Indeed, we know that the Mayan Calendar was more accurate than the one we use today.
Chichen Itza Pyramid, Mexico is 20*N40', Longitude is just under 90*W at
88*W32', and at the stroke of midnight of 3 out of 4 New Years in this era, Sirius is in Paran with the M.C. as well!
I will put all information on attachment soon....I wonder what ancient people were trying to tell us?

[the monk]

Chart and information regarding Chichen Itza Pyramid showing Sirius culminating on M.C. at midnight 2012 New Year!

[business voodoo]

The fixed star parans that Bernadette Brady uses are the same as the ancient Egyptian's used, and earlier on this thread i wrote about the amazing fact that approx. five thousand years ago the start of the New Year was connected to when the Sun rose on the Asc. with Sirius, and from 1901 to 2101 at Midnight between 31 Dec and 1 Jan, Sirius is now culminating on the M.C. over Cheops Pyramid at 29*N58', 31*E07'.

it is interesting that sirius was used as at that time they just thought it was a "star" and now with our techological eyes, we can see that in truth and reality, it is a dual star ... integrating duality into the energy that was thought of as being one ... one of the few reasons why i support modification of time/calendar based on a foci on the galactic center (although in time, i am sure we will once again find that that too has a duality at its core).

also, beyond the physical attributes of sirius that i've studied, i have not delved into the esoteric or symbolic meanings attributed to sirius, any good links or personal notions as to what else sirius can mean for our current transition? (i had received a book on sirius, but i opened it once and have not been able to open it again ... not just no resonation with me, but an actual aversion resonance; maybe i'll try it again before i give the books away, but if you have some info ... i love following your white rabbits, they usually hit my core quite powerfully!)

these induce some most interesting thoughts monk (and as always, great technical info/teaching!), thank you! ... i wonder if there isn't a pyramid/temple in asia or india that has a similar link ... would not surprise me.

[the monk]

Hi Business Voodoo,
Sirius has so many myths and legends attached to it, and goes back to the dawn of time, but i have been researching, and found a puzzle which at the moment i am at a loss to explain, other than believing that there must be a connection with time/calendars and Sirius....after all it is the most powerful and the most brilliant star in our heavens....i'll come back to the other myths and legends later.
Lets have a brief explaination of it's history with calendars.
We have already looked at the Egyptians who used it to calcalate their year by when it rose with the Sun on the Asc., which gave us 365 days.
Thousands of years later, Julius Ceasar employed the skills of a brilliant astronomer to update the length of the Roman calendar, which was hopeless.
Sosigenes was a student at the great Library in Alexandria, so knew of the skills of the Egyptians.
We cant be sure who wanted the 1st January to be the start of the new calendar, but i would guess it was Caesar as the 1st of January was important in Roman life.
Sosigenes was a mathematician, who didnt start the New Calendar with any connection to Sirius, which began on 1st Jan 0046 BC. and as everyone didnt have time zones, we can pick any location, (I picked Rome but any where will do with the Sun on the I.C. at 00:00 time.) the M.C. is 06* Cancer, and if i remember correctly Sirius was about half way between Gemini at that point
so didnt have any connection with any angles.
The Julian Calendar wasnt accurate, and by the 1500's was causing problems with equinox's and with the clergy calcalating Easter.
The Pope Gregory XIII is Known for reforming the Julian Calendar and bringing in the very accurate Gregorian calendar we use today with the help of a Jesuit priest/astronomer Christopher Clavius.
This was rectified by following the observations of both Clavius and Keplar and Pope Gregory decreed that the day after October 4th 1582 would be October 15th, and changed a few leap years.
Thus the Calendar we have today is pretty accurate, and we know that no electional astrology took place, as they were only making the Julian calendar more accurate. SO WHERE DID SIRIUS GET INTO THE CALENDAR!!!!!
Sirius must have been sulky when Sosigenes didnt use it somehow fit into the Julian Calendar, so really came in strong at the beginning of the Gregorian.
If you have Solar Fire 5v astrology programme you can check my calcalations, or view them on attachment.
I've chosen Cairo as a location as i love the Pyramids, but if you choose Rome it doesnt change anything as Sundials Ruled every location, so time was calcalated by this method so 1st Jan 1583 at 00:00 will have the Sun on the I.C. everywhere, time zones were established because of the Railways.
These days if we wanted to celebrate New Year that was accurate, it is only possible if a location is within a couple of degrees of every 15* degrees Long. starting from 00*W00' being Greenwich U.K., but it doesnt always work in Winter at the 1st Jan at the time of 00:00, as some locations change the daylight hours out of sink with longitude as Lourdes, France has at 00*W03' longitude, for at midnight, the Sun isnt on the I.C.
The first New Year in the Gregorian Calender being midnight between 31st Dec, and 1st Jan 1583 has Sirius on the M.C. by projected fixed stars as correcting the Julian Calendar moved the M.C.
Also there is a Paran connection by the Asc. and the I.C. for if a star isnt conjunct an angle by paran at the actual time of the event, there are parans that last for a day and the paran to Sirius/I.C. was at 11:44 on 31 Dec 1582.
Sirius when projected on the M.C. eventually fully petered out on 1773 New Year.
The Paran connection lasted till 1611 New Year.
The Mayan calendar begins a new cycle in 2012, and the Gregorian New year of 2013 begins with Sirius conjunct the M.C. by paran.....Sirius loves Calendars, the Isis Star always sneaks in somewhere!
Other strange occurrences involve Pluto.
The Julian calendar start 1st Jan 0046 B.C. Pluto 9* degrees from M.C.
The first new year in the Gregorian was 1st Jan, time 00:00, 1583, Pluto within four and a half degrees of the Desc.
New year 2012/13 has Pluto not far from the I.C.!

[business voodoo]

We cant be sure who wanted the 1st January to be the start of the new calendar, but i would guess it was Caesar as the 1st of January was important in Roman life.

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This was rectified by following the observations of both Clavius and Keplar and Pope Gregory decreed that the day after October 4th 1582 would be October 15th, and changed a few leap years.

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The Mayan calendar begins a new cycle in 2012, and the Gregorian New year of 2013 begins with Sirius conjunct the M.C. by paran.....Sirius loves Calendars, the Isis Star always sneaks in somewhere!


Monk,
very interesting ... thank you for sharing the info.

the first quote above is often something i think about ...

the second quote is something i didn't know but something i'm going to have to think about and research ... given october is the time of year where that 13th constallation becomes a part of the puzzle for me, this is something i'm going to have to look into deeper, thanks for the info.

something to think about ... given the mayan calendar has a new year in july rather than january, is the positions different or roughly the same ... i'm still learning about parans and their relationships, etc. very interesting topic ... just curious to know if july 7th (the mayan new year or rather, "the day out of time") figures significantly in this scenario you are talking about. the day 21 december is exactly the same time period of the shift pope gregory made ... hmmmmmmmm.

peace & harmony,
elaine
'freedom must be exercised to stay in shape!'

[phyrefly]

Pawnee maiden sacrifice one year confused Sirius with Venus. They sacrificed her to Sirius instead of Venus.

[business voodoo]

oops!

[phyrefly]

'oops!' :fpraise: If this could be confirmed as to what year and in what month, it could be compared to any other recorded deviations, for in this case there was apparently some kind of alignment differences. Astronomical records may have something on this, Chinese included.

[business voodoo]

220 days later on 29th July 2013, at a Mayan location of Mexico, we have an all planetary grand sextile that also includes Venus, on attachment.

"when the moon is in the 7th house, and jupiter aligns with mars *** this is the dawning of the age of aquarius ...." which is what the chart looks like for noon at my present location in las vegas, nevada on that day ... SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT REASON TO HAVE A REALLY BIG RAVE HERE ... any takers?

my husband just so happened to have "subjected" me to the music of the 5th dimension on the recent trip to los angeles ... the chart is as it should be ... makes me think happy thoughts (despite the news headlines!) ....

thanks monk!

[phyrefly]

'Tha name of Seela's wife, Furki, a goddess in her own right, was used by astrogeographers to designate a feature of Venus as 'Furki Mons' (Furki's Mountain), later changed to 'Furki Tholus' ('Furki Hill'). This is most probably the Inguish version of the appelations, as Chechen native words do not have 'f' in them, which letter may be considered as a 'shibboleth' for outsiders to differentiate between Chechen and Inguish speakers.'
(Jaimoukha A, The Chechens: A Handbook)

[the monk]

I hate talking about religion, as usaully this causes arguments but although the Gregorian Calendar is pretty accurate, there were moves to reform it for many centuries, which only took place when by reforming it, Sirius was on the M.C. to start the new calendar, which may point to Egyptian beliefs!
As this involves a Pope, i hesitate to bring this point forward, anyhow who is to say the Egyptians were wrong!
Pope Gregory died soon after implementing the New Calendar, and the next Pope was Pope Sixtus V.
The present Egyptian obelisk in St. Peter's Square was brought to Rome by Caligula, who lived the myth of Osiris and Isis.
This obelisk was moved to its present position by Pope Sixtus V in 1586, who's crest of four lions can be seen to this day on the monument.
The Myth of Leo is entwinned with Regulus that now sits almost between the cusps of Leo and Virgo.
Dont give me a hard time in bringing up religion....please!

[business voodoo]

monk ... i don't think i saw any religion there ... now if you said "catholics rule" or "repent, you sinner" . . . well, but what a world leader, who happens to be the pope of the catholic church did or didn't do in relation to the calendar we all use today, is part of the calendar's (and its energies) history.

as well, the jesuits also adjusted the chinese calendar in the 1600s as well.

interesting info on the obelisk . . . i wonder the history of the "pope benedicts" ... anyone know?

[the monk]

Hi Business Voodoo,
Thanks, i can get roasted when i mention religion on other forums!
Now after 1583, Sirius is continually on the M.C. during every New Year up to
1703, where it starts to peter out, only being on the M.C. for some New Years.
During the time that Sirius fades, it is on the M.C. in 1726 at New Year, so perhaps the Cosmos treated us to the tightest orb grand sextile i have ever found.
I have put it on attachment which is located in London, but obviously can be located anywhere else.
It happened near the Vernal Equinox on Friday 22 March 1726 at 22:00pm.
I thought it may interest you.

[the monk]

Hi Everyone,
I can now say that without a shadow of a doubt that Pope Gregory XIII was involved in complex electional astrology when he changed the Julian calendar over to the Gregorian Calendar.
He decreed that the the day after October 4th 1582 would be October 15th 1582, so correcting the new calendar.
So why October 4th?
The last minute of the Julian Calendar would be 23:59pm. and at that time Sirius was in paran with the Asc.
So he wanted to finish the old calendar with Sirius in paran with the Asc., and start the New Year in 1583 with Sirius conjunct the M.C. by projected fixed stars!
We can now think that the odds of this happening by chance are impossible!
Proof on attachment.

[business voodoo]

especially unlikely to be 'coincidence' given his acute interest in and knowlege of mathematics, astronomy and astrology ... it makes me give rise to think about ophiuchus ... why oh why was it omitted?

great work monk!!!!!!!

p.s. would you mind posting the parans report for the 1 january 1583, as well.

[the monk]

Hi Business Voodoo,
Ive put mundane star parans for 1st Jan 1583 on attachment, although confusing as they are war-like, didnt like Juno near M.C. on the first New Year of the Gregorian Calendar either.

[the monk]

There is another way of looking for electional astrology, the corresponding date before the calendar change is 10 days which works out if we chose it by New Year date, to 22nd Dec at 00:00 time.
You can check this if you have Solar Fire V5 astrology programme, by taping in 22nd Dec. 1583 at time 00:00 (NS) and aminate the chart backwards on a yearly basis, the next date will be 22nd Dec., Yet if you go back another year, 1st Jan 1582 will pop up.
Generally i calcalate from Brady's starlight astrology software which is easier, for what i am looking for, being was Sirius on the M.C. every year for a period before 1582?.
All astrology programmes act differently, but keep in mind it has to line up with 22 Dec. at time 00:00 if you work this out by tapping in a date before 1581, for Rome, Italy for New Year.
Before the Calendar change Sirius was on the M.C. only for some New Years, being 1579, 1578, 1575, 1574, 1571, 1570, 1567, 1566, 1563, 1562, 1559, 1558, 1555, 1554, 1551, and 1550.
Before this we find Sirius on the M.C. every 4 years, being 1547, 1543, 1539, 1535, 1531, 1527, 1523, and the first year 1550.
So before 1582, Sirius was slowly getting in line, but after 1582 we find Sirius on the M.C. every year till 1703, so Pope Gregory changed from the Julian to the Gregorian Calendar exactly within the time frame when Sirius would be on the M.C. FOR EVERY YEAR, at New Year!

[Fluffmeister]

Ah HA! I'm finally getting it!

As you know, Monk, I was pretty puzzled about this and didn't quite see what you were getting at - but yes, it's the "why 4 October" as the changeover time. You're right - there *had* to be a reason for choosing that date, and the Sirius connection is pretty powerful - exactly on the horizon in Rome at 23:59!

Now, the next question has to be the changeover in England, which happened much later (in 1752). It took place on 2 September 1752. The day after was 14 September 1752.

Sirius doesn't come into play here - but Alnilam, the middle star of Orion's belt, was rising at 23:59 on 2 September 1752 in London. Was 2/9/1752 chosen for any particular reason, I wonder, as 4/10/1582 was?

[business voodoo]

Hi Business Voodoo,
Ive put mundane star parans for 1st Jan 1583 on attachment, although confusing as they are war-like, didnt like Juno near M.C. on the first New Year of the Gregorian Calendar either.

thanks for the info monk!

as if 'war' hasn't been a major theme of life on earth ... another good reason to update/modify the calendar we are using ... its so integrated in our psyches, its likely genetic by now ... i wonder if there's a cure for this violent society?

[business voodoo]

... fluff ... could this have anything to do strictly with politics, e.g., the church of england versus the vatican? this would have to be when an alliance of some sort would have had to have been made ... hmmmmmmmmmm would have been "king george" in rule as this was fairly close to the american revolution as well.

[Fluffmeister]

... fluff ... could this have anything to do strictly with politics, e.g., the church of england versus the vatican? this would have to be when an alliance of some sort would have had to have been made ... hmmmmmmmmmm would have been "king george" in rule as this was fairly close to the american revolution as well.

Absolutely - the only reason England didn't switch in the 16th century was because it was assumed to be some sort of "papist plot". We knew the current calendar was out of synch, but typical British bloody-mindedness where we cut off our nose to spite our face was as alive and well then as it is now! :viking:

[the monk]

I'm so pleased that you see what i mean Fluff, i do need your mathematical brain to widen the search, which by looking when England adopted the Gregorian calendar has.
First off we can see that the battle over religion was just over interpretation with Church of England and the Catholics, yet the choice of Sirius or Alnilam only shows both looked towards Egyptian mythology.
In Egyptian Mythology Orion was the home of Osiris, the Egyptian god who was killed by his brother Set.
While Osiris dwelled in Orion, his sister and wife Isis dwelled in Sirius, the brightest star in the sky, so i'm not surprised to find Alnilam on an angle when England accepted the Gregorian calendar.
The author Robert Bauval brought something to my attention over Alnitak, Alnilam, and Mintaka, the stars in the Orion Belt.
On attachment i have attached a photo of these three stars from the Samuel Oschin telescope, which doesnt line up exactly in a straight line, just as the Giza pyramids are slightly out, i have put a overhead photo of the pyramids to compare along side.....As above as below?
Please view attachment.

[the monk]

Hi Fluff,
Now when England and dominions, (U.S.A. as well) adopted the Gregorian Calendar, the last day was 2nd Sept. 1752, so we need to look at 23:59pm.
Sorry Fluff you made a mistake, you must of been looking at 14 Sept 1752 at 00:00am. time, when the Gregorian Calendar resumed, as Alniliam is in paran with the Asc. then!
Parans on attachment.
So was there a connection to Sirius on 2nd Sept 1752 at 23:59pm?
Yes there was a massive connection....think...what planet would you want near the Asc conjunct Sirius?...IT WOULD BE JUPITER!!!!!!!!!!!
Chart on attachment with Jupiter two and a half degrees away from Asc.

[the monk]

Hi Fluff,
I've been looking at this research again, and yes you are right, all astrology programmes changed over from the Julian, to the Gregorian by the 1582 date, so disregard comments over when England adopted the Gregorian in 1752, and Sirius being conjunct Jupiter, but yes it is interesting over Alnilam, being in paran with an angle.

[Fluffmeister]

Hi Fluff,
I've been looking at this research again, and yes you are right, all astrology programmes changed over from the Julian, to the Gregorian by the 1582 date, so disregard comments over when England adopted the Gregorian in 1752, and Sirius being conjunct Jupiter, but yes it is interesting over Alnilam, being in paran with an angle.

Yes, but that's just astrology programs being lazy! Solar Fire and most others just assume that if you put in a date after 1582, it must be Gregorian - this simply isn't true. I think they just couldn't be bothered to put all the different rules into the database! In Russia, for instance, they didn't switch until 1918, and the Russian Orthodox Church *still* haven't made the switch.

[the monk]

Hi Fluff,
Ive been wondering about Juno and the Gregorian Calander, obviously it wasnt used in astrology at 00:00 on 15th Oct. 1582, try it on Solar Fire, as i have trouble getting it on Starlight.
As the Gregorian Calender changed over then, you will find at this time Juno was at 08*32' Cancer conjunct Sirius at 08*20'
And at 1st Jan 1583 at 00:00 Juno is 3* degrres off M.C., as it seems highlighted during the beginning of our calendar, so could this explain why it is a pain in the butt now?
Also how much evidence have we that ancient parans were used in 1582, although we know heliacal parans were used in other calenders.

[business voodoo]

juno in concert with sirius, the plot thickens ...
that would so feed into the 'patriarchial' structure as we see it playing out today though ... a woman hell bent on doing anything to subvert her husband is a perfect feed into the man's need to be completely dominant and at odds with one another at the same time ... obviously, i hope no one thinks that i believe that either party is innocent or that women are victims when i speak of the 'patriarchial' order (and/or that a 'matriarchial' order would be any better) ... it simply is what is reality through our collective choice, but juno being prevalent on the structure of the calendar would make a lot of sense in our present structure ... and after looking at all your research on the timing of major events and battles, etc. its most interesting ... i think i'm going to take a look at the american formation charts and see what i see for juno on those, see if there's a connection somewhere.

great work, as always, monk!

[the monk]

Thanks for your knowledge, Business Voodoo,
Now the French revolution started another calendar, although it didnt last very long, strange as "Paris" was known in ancient times to have a temple of Isis, in fact in latin "Par Isis" means "Near Isis", that was eventually shortened to "Paris".
This calendar had connections to the Egyptian solar year, symbolically, and although they connected the New year to the Equinox's, the month of Vendemiare (Vintage) started on 11 SEPTEMBER, symbollic of the Coptic and Ethiopian calendars!!!!

[business voodoo]

well ... there's so much disagreement as to the time when everything happened in terms of america ... so many potential days that should be considered, etc. in doing my research, i prepared a "pinnacle" chart for the "day" ... july 4, 1776 ... the declaration of independence was allegedly signed or otherwise proclaimed to be anyway ... the use of a pinnacle chart is the "maximum expression" for the day ... not necessarily attached to the actual time of the event ... my time is 12:07 p.m. (when the sun is most closely conjunct the MC) ... there are several times that one could use for the signing, several are close to mine ... 12:20 p.m. is a notable one. lois rodden's site http://www.astrodatabank.com/NM/USA.htm#Sagittarius has several of the charts to consider as well as considerable discussion on the issue. ** read the section on the "Declaration of War" and the subsequent footnote discussion on the 12:20 p.m. time.

anyway ... so, suffice it to say i was surprised when i ran my pinnacle time, sirius right near the MC, juno is within 6º of the ascendent ... attached is the chart.

[the monk]

Hi Business Voodoo,
Yes the American situation, is confusing, but i have so many files i may be able to help...i know i have something, but i'm not very good with files and may take sometime to find.
I do find that i tend to join a lot of forums, and to bring all opinions to the centre, i try to fire every one up, by making the thread title very prone to strong views, which isnt due to an ego but leads me to consider all conflicting material, thus is good in being able to see others points of view, but in another way can lead to a lot of time defending a liberal view point, when in effect i have to get everyone slightly angry to reply to the thread.
My head hurts, as to get views, the message has to be stronger than i would like, very like to try to get people to vote in the Western world, most people these days dont bother!

[business voodoo]

hmmmm monk ...

no headaches for you!!!

most people are so numb, its a good thing that only a small portion of those who care to wield power and actually do ... but i think its always been like that and, likely, won't change anytime soon ...

lighting fires can be difficult after a heavy rain, and then it can cause wild fires like the one in Cali right now ... i suppose i'm trying to learn that the only fire that's important is the one within, and if others want to light their's off of me, cool. if not, i've got to stoke my own fire and keep it burning without burning out (e.g., getting sick!). i suppose that's my 2nd house sun thing.

i actually think on america, while the declaration of independence and the day the constitution was enacted are VERY important, more important right now is the reformation of the nation during the civil war ... which is the energy we are under now as the shift from the original formation of the nation changed to a federal power during our civil war. this is something that needs more dialogue amongst the astrologers here, perhaps if we can understand that major shift (similar to the switch from the julian to gregorian calendar), we can better understand the energy we are ACTUALLY living under versus the originating energy of the founding documents. they must be read hand and hand and even now only a handful of people even consider something other than just the founding documents as that which reads the energy of the USA.

[the monk]

I'm not an astrologer, but a psychic that sometimes can join with the logic of astrologers, usaully as i have bad health, i have to be careful when i have inspiration, this is a bad time for me, so please research my comments, i wish not to lead anyone astray!
If we looked for a motive in Pope Gregory XIII when he aligned our calendar to Sirius at New Year, i would say he was a product of his time, wanting to align the catholic religion to the greatest spiritual star.
He didnt have exact knowledge of the spiritual Egyptian values associated with Sirius, but he knew that our precious calendar, our perception of time, and Sirius needed to be aligned for all civilisations to progress.
Although ancient calendars may have influenced him, such as the Coptic calendar....he used projected fixed stars in this process.
We know that the "Rosetta Stone" was carved in 196 BC., when Greeks understood the Egyptian "Picture Writing".
This understanding was lost till 1799, when French soldiers found the Rosetta Stone, thus as the same thing was written in ancient Egyptian, and Greek which we were able to understand, we were able to crack the code, so we were able to learn much more of the philosophy of the Egyptians.
We may then have seen the power of a direct paran to Sirius instead of the use of the projected fixed star connection as valued in the middle ages, and 1582.
The prime meridian of the World is Greenwich, London, Kent, U.K., with longitude, which controls time.
The basis of longitude, the prime meridian, was established in 1851, although adopted at an international conference in 1884, when Victorian England was at the height of world power, for a small island we may think this is strange!
The basis of being idealistic without being patriotic only performs without discrimination in our modern era, before perhaps any number of countries may have perceived the power of Sirius, but not been able to put it to full use in relation to all.
At the moment i dont want to go into "Time Zones", leave that to another day, when i feel more logical and rested.
If we were to look at the spiritual side of Sirius we have to look at esoteric astrology, Blavatsky, theosophists and Alice Bailey, we can come back to this later, i need to look at the practical side in Sirius being aligned to the stroke of New Year by direct paran.
The 1st Jan is a marker of New Year that started with Sosigenes in 0046 BC.
Pope Gregory, it would seem aligned our calendar to Sirius by projected fixed stars....although i think this is a much weaker alignment than Egyptian paran.
As luck would have it, as projected Sirius faded in relation to 1st Jan, the Egyptian paran took over.
The Victorian Age, like no other modern age was responsible for the beginnings of most scientific discoveries, industrialisation and the beginnings of global economy.
Be careful in analysis of who and why any country used Sirius, to see what it means today needs an idealistic approach for the needs of all countries, so lets not point fingers....if we do this, it is negative to how we approach this today with todays problems.
The Egyptians valued Sirius within a calendar and was a great civilisation.
The Victorians controlled time by the Greenwich Observatory.
The Egyptian paran in line with Greenwich, London, Kent U.K. with Sirius in paran with the stroke of New Year started in 1802, but obviously not for all years, being a gradual process.
This gradual process means that by 1818, Sirius aligned with Greenwich every New Year till 1st Jan 1904....just after the Victorian Age when Englands power began to falter!
Now we only experience some years when this aligns, the last being in 2097.
This is an interesting factor that needs a lot more research.
A lot of astrologers dont study fixed stars as they have two meanings, the big spiritual stars always have a nemesis, that shows if we dont follow them in an idealistic way that benefits all.
Lets look at the nemesis of Sirius....it could be interesting!
Of great importance to ancient Egyptians was the fact that the heliacal rising of Sirius occurred nearly simultaneously with the yearly flooding of the Nile.
A factor that made them a great civilisation, as we know it takes a lot of time and effort to be hunter/gatherers, and leaves very little time for great philosphers and science, as knowing when flooding occurred means they planted crops that sustained the empire, thus leaving room for gifted individuals to "Think".
We also must ponder the "Sothis Cycle" as this made us capable of keeping track of time periods much longer than a year.
Interestingly, the association of Sirius with an abundence of water appears elsewhere than Egypt in the ancient world as well!
In fact, it is possible that Sirius was associated with deluges in general.
The Romans of the first century AD. thought the influence of Sirius brought highly destructive weather, further associations of Sirius with water themes occur in the "Zend-Avesta, which calls Tishtriya (for Sirius) the author of rain and the daemon of dryness.
According to the Zend-Avesta, the supreme God once made "Tishtriya/Sirius" cause a massive flood as punishment for mens wickedness and corruption.
Could this be the nemesis of Sirius...according to the Zoroastrian religion, Sirius was the maker of rain and GREAT WATERS!!!!
We may look at another theme of Sirius....Success that can burn you...the Dog Days of Summer, meaning very HOT SUMMERS!
Civilisation needs energy to progress.
Today we are faced with a sea level rise of 21 feet, very hot summers, and crazy weather patterns....we have not known it but our calendar has been aligned to Sirius since 1582 by projected, then by paran....oops!
Sounds very like global warming, doesn't it?

[business voodoo]

... digesting ...

yes, it does sound like global warming, and what's interesting is i have not been able to find too much relating to sirius in the u.s. documents ... perhaps china? someone had to have picked it up ... although there would have been periods of lapse between egypt and the greeks, then to england.

and then there's the mayan calendar which was also fixed to sirius ...

what about asia, does anyone know if any of the asiatic/hindi/muslim calendars use sirius?

most interesting info ... time to go and google some of these questions that are floating in my head!!! thanks monk!!

[the monk]

Hi Business Voodoo,
Yes, we can expect SIRIUS, THE SCORCHER to melt the ice caps.
Usaully i dont want to mess with our perception of time, but before time zones that were brought in because of the railways, the M.C. didnt change if it was conjunct a star, so if we wanted to look how Sirius would have faded then we can see this with a direct paran to sirius from Greenwich U.K., but now some locations experience New Year when the Sun is over 2 hours away from the I.C., so for London this process is fading although at the moment we find it every 2 years.
Longitude that is true to London is every 15* degrees, but as Sirius fades at 15* degrees from 00*W00' longitude step up every 15 degrees and + or - 1 degree so Cairo at 31* degree longitude will still show Sirius continually by direct Egyptian paran in line with the stroke of New Year, like New York at 74 degrees longitude....every 15 degrees add or minus a degree.
So it will take a hell of a long time before Sirius doesnt show up at some locations at the stroke of New Year, we cant get rid of it!
It would seem that the oldest magic/astrology that is ancient was aligning the calendar to Sirius, and when we think of the advances in science, and industry that have taken place since 1582, we know that in recorded history that such a surge hasnt happened before.
During this time, Sirius has been chiming in the New Year, trouble is all the great stars have a nemisis....still optimistic, we'll wriggle out somehow, even if we have to buy a canoe, Ha Ha!

[the monk]

Please remember the Quran is a sacred book, i have no wish to inflame religious feeling, so if you comment please remember this.
All ancient text needs to be studied to be able to research Sirius and meanings, so for that reason only i have put a part of the Quran on attachment.

[business voodoo]

i consider the quran to be equal as a sacred scripture as scriptures go ... e.g., the bible, dead sea scrolls, talmud, torah, etc., so i have no problem using it for these purposes and welcome additional information coming from any sacred text or scriptures or other historic documents. thank you ... i just want to clarify, is this a translation of the text contained in quran which you have you posted?

[the monk]

Hi Business Voodoo,
Yes i think it is a good source, i'll put the link in.
www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/053.qmt.html
I see a lot of my old threads on the research section, that needs updating, during this time i did experiment with orbs, due to confusion within astrology in general, the conflict become obvious at the time of the harmonic concordence, which most astrologers couldnt find with very tight orb structures.
I will update material when i have time.

[the monk]

I'm sorry that i have been away, researching and writing on other forums, i evolved from this forum that is a spiritual home for me.
Religion is very difficult to write about and can be a mine-field, yet it isnt my intention to point fingers or throw up dirt on any particular country or faith, there is always another point of view, and involves all the world faiths.
Recently i have been researching the concept of mid-night in 1582/3, as i have had a few astrologers comment that mid-night wasnt a factor during this time although we were able to calcalate mid-night.
The argument as i have written is as follows:-
In the first half of the 14th Century, large mechanical clocks began to appear in the towers of several Italian cities, although they had trouble keeping them accurate.
Another advance was the invention of spring-powered clocks between 1500 and 1510 by Peter Henlein of Nuremburg, which were advances in design and precursers to truly accurate time.
Obviously Sun-dials also present a factor, as mid-day was very important, which corresponds to "Mid-night, but even if we dont look in this area, mid-night on all astrology programmes show the Sun conjunct the I.C. at New Year on 1583, and after we introduced time zones, we can look at Greenwich London (00W00') at New year, which corresponds to any location that sits approx. 15* degrees away, if we havent messed with daylight saving hours, with the Sun on the I.C. at New Year.
Some astrologers say that our concept of the day in 1582/3 was from Sunset, but our calendar is accurate within 1 day every 3/4 thousand years, and if the Gregorian calendar was set from Sunset then we would have had to make approx. 6 hour adjustment to bring this forward to mid-night which we follow now, which i cannot find any document on the web that this was ever done, perhaps others can?
In 1582/3 by astrology standards with the Sun on the I.C., i would have thought would be a strong indicator for starting the Gregorian Calendar with Sirius on the M.C. if Sirius was very important to some faiths.
Further information can be found by the Warburg institute and research done by Frances Yates on the Renaissance period when the Catholic Church were giving mixed messages, and were very undecided if it was going to adopt the resurgence of hermeticism.
At first the writing of Pico Della Mirandola fell foul of the Catholic authorities, but in 1492, when Pope Alexander VI become Pope, Pico's writings received papal blessings.
Again i would have to say, these events happened 5/400 years ago, and religions go through many stages, so please dont think i am just dragging up dirt on any religion, my aim is to understand these complex understandings between faiths.
I have put on attachment a few items regarding the Renaissance period, that may lead to you to further study of this period, regarding Giordano Bruno, Marsilio Ficino, and Pico Della Mirandola.
Also i thought you may be interested in this web-link:-
www.thepowerhour.com/articles/masonic_1.htm

[business voodoo]

good to see you back monk ...
thanks for the thanksgiving weekend homework!!!!
i am very thankful for you and your patient and persistent research and teaching ... i think you have definitely found an information/energy vein worthy of exploration and unearthing, especially during this time. the relevance of what you are saying during this time of our evolution in particular, is on point and helpful for the context of this transition we are experiencing.

thank you again. be well.

[the monk]

Thanks Business Voodoo,
Yesterdays bombing of Sadr City in Baghdad, Iraq was a yardstick in the mess that is continuing in Iraq, just as the attack on "The al Askariya, the Golden Mosque was at 7:00am. on 22nd Feb. 2006 (Juno was 1*15' away from I.C. CNN News, Samarra', Iraq).
I do research astrology, but can be a maverick, as i look at the Desc. and I.C. when looking at projected fixed stars, like how we look at parans.
I havent looked at Iraq for several months as the aggression has become impossible for an astrologer to follow, yet yesterday was an apex and having a need to value events with some angle connection, i have looked in this area.
According to Sky News the events of yesterday started in a market in Sadr City, Baghdad, Iraq at 15:00pm, 144 killed, 238 injured, 23rd Nov. 2006.
Vesta is the only asteriod that is conjunct an angle being the Desc., we associate Vesta with a focus.
I use the Placidus house system, so we see that in the 8th house/Sag we have a Sun/Jupiter conjunction plus Venus.
Yet if we change the time by one minute, being 14:59pm., we find the I.C. at 15*10' Cancer, and Sirius at 14*11' Cancer projected.
Brady values Arcturus as "a pathfinder", and the Desc. is 24*38' Libra and Arcturus is 24*20 Libra.
This is only research but i feel the Desc. and I.C. is important in regards to projected fixed stars.
today we had an attack in Tal Afar, 260 miles northwest of Baghdad, at 11:00am., Mars is conjunct the M.C.
According to Agrippa, Siruis bestoweth honour and good will, and the favour of men, and aerial spirits, and giveth the power to pacify and reconcile kings, princes and other men.
i would have to say that kings dont always have the favour of Sirius.
Please look up Nicholas II of Russia on Wikipedia.
As most myths about the slaughter of the Tzar and family have now shown that no one survived, we can think of Yakov Yurovsky's account of this murder as believable.
He was the leader of the bolsheviks that carried out the slaughter, and was a watchmaker from Perm, so his interest in the timing has to be valued...but all watches can be out especially before quartz, perhaps we can think the time line can be moved by 2-3 minutes.
Yurovsky said the slaughter took place at 02:33am., on 17th July 1918, yet if we look at 02:36am, 17th July 1918 in Yekaterinburg, Russia (56*N51', 60*E36') we find that Sirius is conjunct the Asc. +00*47' by projected fixed stars.

[the monk]

Hi Everyone,
I find that i am researching a great deal recently, and find very little time to get back to my spiritual home at Mysticwicks, i find a lot of my threads here need refining, as my health isnt good perhaps a moderator could discuss with the owners of this forum, which is my spiritual home, whether i could show a link to just one other forum where all i have refined the research i have entered here.
I would have to say it is a link to a forum that i dont feel comfortable, being an astrology forum highly regarded, yet unable to refute my observations as i get very little debate....most of the highly regarded astrology forums dont get involved with asteroids, yet i have credit, that has been shown by the Moderators.
Indeed i have no wish to pull readers away from this site, i feel it is the most rounded forum on the world wide web, that discuss all aspects of religion, and all spiritual teachings that go back to the dawn of time, and give the ability to post pictures and research, yet because all is discussed on "mysticwicks", it means that we try to cover an impossible amount of knowledge.
To be an astrologer, by the method of say "The Faculty of Astrological Studies", takes 4 years to even be a "Greenhorn", and even then they leave out any study of asteroids, which i feel is leaving half out!
Obviously any observations that i have started threads here, needed refining on other sites, else i think you will agree, would be subject to huge outcry!
I would like to show how i am regarded on a site, although highly regarded doesnt follow asteroids, and wouldnt be of interest to readers here, other than seeing how i refuted any argument, and gained a level of respect, even if mostly it is by silence and non-debate.
Hopefully the owners of this forum, will leave this open to me, to show this refining, although will understand if they dont, it isnt usaully granted on any site, personally i think it wouldnt amount to any readers or members writing on other forums, and dis-regarding this one, which i love so much.
But refining my research takes time, and much that i write, that originally was displayed on this forum, becomes complicated, and prone to going over old ground, to update and refine.
I would not want members to be pulled away from this site, and i will continue to put my first impressions here first, but they are raw material that is a sounding board, it would help if i could "only give" one other site, where this material is refined, due to criticism, if this wasnt achieved!
I will leave this up to the moderators and owners that i respect so much on "Mysticwicks".
Perhaps you can write your thoughts on this!
All my material is free to use, yet i suffer bad health, so updating is a factor.

G.W.Bush's Birth details.....Born 6th July 1946, at 07:26am. at New Haven, Conecticut.
In Egyptian times, if a soul was born on a day that Sirius rose in paran with the Sun, then they were regarded sacred, and were groomed for high office, as a servant of Isis.
We know there is a lot of debate if G.W.Bush ever won an election, it was very tight with Al Gore and John Kerry....both John Kerry and George Bush are members of "Skull and Bones".
I have no idea if G.W.Bush is a member of a masonic order with Egyptian beliefs, yet i have found this article:-
www.thepowerhour.com/articles/masonic_1.htm
The ancient Egyptians valued Sirius rising in paran with the Sun, not projected, yet all astrologers use different methods, and there is a lot of debate between astrologers over which is more effective...the paran or projected.
A democracy is a strange animal, but is the best we can hope for, yet it takes a huge amount of money to elect a president, from large powerful organisations.
I find it strange that 11th September is the "New Year" by the Coptic Calendar, that is the symbol of Sirius, indeed the "Pentagon" had its ground breaking cereomony on 11th September 1941, and a Pentagon is the symbol of Sirius.
The five pointed star or pentagon was considered sacred, because it was a symbol that encoded the secret of precession.
The number of degrees around the centre of a star (360) divided by the number of arms of the star (5) renders the number seventy two...which is significant in terms of astronomy.
Seventy two is the number of years that it takes for the sky bodies to appear to move through one degree of their cycle.
When the seventy two years are multiplied by three hundred and sixty degrees of a complete cycle, we discover it takes 25,920 years for each cycle to be completed....at which time the process starts all over again....this is the cycle referred to as precession.
So did G.W.Bush have special "grooming" to be president?
Perhaps....on 6th July 1946 in New Haven, Connecticut, the Sun rose conjunct Sirius (00*22') by projected fixed stars, conjunct the Asc. at 05:27am.
G.W.Bush was born at 07:26am., while the Sun was still conjunct Sirius (00*27'), also Thoth, Hermes and Mercury are connected in Hermetic tradition, and we find Mercury at 09*50' Leo and Asc. at 07*07' at time of birth.
Further analysis can be found at this web-site:-
www.beliefnet.com/story/142/story_14265_1.html

[the monk]

Hi everyone,
We know that at 23:59pm. on 4th Oct 1582, being the end of the Julian Calendar that Sirius was in paran with the Asc.
But obviously if we were to go back to the beginning of Julian Calendar on 1 Jan. 0046 B.C. then Sosigenes would have picked Sunset to herauld the ending of the great Egyptian calendar....before time zones longitude is in line with time, which is why Sirius shows up everywhere in regards to location at midnight by projected at New Year between 1583 and 1781.
But latitude is a different animal, so to find where Sosigenes ended the Egyptian calendar, we need the location...parans are very sensitive to latitude, being Sunrise and Sunset....it wasnt Rome, Alexandria, or the Pyramids, so where does the Sun set exactly where Sirius rises on the Asc.?
Like all simple things it is obvious,.....the end of the great Egyptian calendar would have happened on 31st Dec. 0047 B.C., at Sunset.
The capital of ancient Egypt was Thebes, that was 25*N40', 32*E35', but modern Luxor is 25*N41', 32*E39', thus being only a few seconds out, we can use Luxor.
Now if we set up a chart for Sunset in Thebes/Luxor on 31st Dec. 0047 B.C., we find the time as 17:19pm.....Sun is 08*09' Capricorn, Desc. is 08*08' Capricorn.....so what is rising in paran with the Asc.?..you guessed it, Sirius, orb 00 mins 36 secs.
So the end of the great Egyptian calendar had Sirius on the Asc. in Thebes, The end of the Julian calendar happened at 23:59pm in Rome on 4th Oct. 1582, Sirius also in paran with Asc.....great events are taking place, i dont know how to value all of this!
All Charts on attachment.

[business voodoo]

monk,
happy new year ... nice to see you again!!! i hope all is well.

i agree, quite fascinating ... sirius is such an interesting correlation to the shift of the calendar ... and why? what possibly could be the significance to our modern times? what are we to be learning from all this? how can we use it? i know tooooooo little about sirius to add any additional value, but definitely i'm with you, there's something there, but just exactly what, i'm not sure either.

[the monk]

Hi everyone,
Ive just found a report buried in U.N. files at unispal, regarding Sir Herbert Samuel, who was the High Commissioner and Commander in Chief for Palestine at the time of the British Mandate in 1922....obviously any Leaque of Nations directives were technically not legal till he took his OATH OF OFFICE.
So when did this take place?......You guessed it....11th September 1922.
I'm back to tidy up my old files soon.
Please find document on attachment.